Actual maid ID, God bless Project Moon.
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Outis has the Josephine ID. The aforementioned ID’s uptie story namedrops Ryoshu as “Chief Butler Ryoshu” that left for the Edgar estate. Unlike Josephine and like Nelly she’s wearing a maid outfit.
It’s Nelly Ryoshu.
It’s Josephine. In the book Joseph always mentions how Hindley is a bad fit for the master of the House after Mr. Earnshaw passes away.
Chief Buttler Outis ID is Nelly
The way Butler Outis speaks is already a dead give away of being Joseph and the names of her attacks also give it away. Nelly ID would probably have similar attack names to that of Butler Faust.
This is a pretty big personality shift from Nelly to Ryoshu Nelly. Wonder if that will be reflected in part 3, or if Ryoshu is uh…just like that because F.Y.S.D.W.S.W
What about the way that Ryoshu acts even remotely hints that she’s a mom lol. What information has been gained “at this point” between release that makes it so certain?
I never said “acts” or “acting”.
Anyway. It’s mostly meta and thematic stuff. Her story, as in literary Ryoshu had a child. Yoshihide (Ryoshu is male in the story) had a daughter whom he loved dearly and was the main reason why he took the commission to draw the Hell Screen to begin with (In Ryoshu’s art, the Hell Screen is substituted as the Coty’s Five Fingers). The EGO’s she has either focuses on her obsession with Art, or more interestingly, are somewhat family or child oriented.
Biggest examples are her 4th March Flame Ryoshu, which has the backdrop of the match stick girl being ash at this point (which fits how Yoshihide’s daughter was burned to death.), as well as possessing two types of Red Eyes EGO’s. Red Eyes having the abnormality being protective of its brood/children. Some also have pointed out that Ryoshu’s cradling of her sword in her base EGO is reminiscent of a parent cuddling their child( trying to keep them warm despite the inferno outside) and not going to touch on the theories that her sword IS her child.
Other hints is that (not sure if this was during the Cooking Event or Hamhampanan collab.) Ryoshu’s signature dish was a Japanese Oyakodon (literally called parent and child). Ryoshu calling Outis’ remark about Bongy’s restaurant harsh when it was revealed to be named after his mother (which is weird given what we know of Ryoshu.) Her affinity to Sinclair is another point people like to bring up because from what we know, Sinclair is the youngest Sinner and was the only one Ryoshu bullied into her side during the cook off.
Some of it is speculation admittedly , but given how Project Moon’s tried to keep in line with the Sinners’ literary counterparts, it wouldn’t be too far fetched of an idea. With the new Nelly ID, it reinforces the theory that Ryoshu might be a mother. Hence why I said it would be weird for her to be otherwise.
You can find discussions about Ryoshu and the analysis/theories surrounding her character in the Reddit which are better put together than what I wrote here, so I recommend going to check it out.
What about the Christmas event? I think it has a good hint of Ryoshu having a child or is good with children is when instead of Sinclair usually translating her words, she just spells it out for Crayon. Sounds like she has the patience for it when it comes to children. Plus Crayon thinks she's cool.
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Oh yeah! Sorry, overlooked that moment but I agree! It is interesting to see she’s not dismissive of kids! But looking back on it, it could just be her having very childish things she considers cool in general (Glances at W Ryoshu) but it could also show that Ryoshu genuinely seems to be nicer to kids and why her art is more geared to the juvenile type of “cool” because her main audience was her kid.
I'd also add that compared to the other sinners who are also parents in their original works she's the only one who's really gotten any sort of hinting like this (I would argue Outis is more complicated given a rather important part of *the Odyssey* is how Odysseus *isn't* a father), and *Hellscreen* is possibly the hardest story to divorce from it's paternal nature. Faust is highly allegorical and tbh Faust's kids don't have a massive role character wise, Heathcliff is only really a close adaption of the first half of the book and probably won't bring up the second generation, and while Telemachus is an important character, it's entirely possible to do his role metaphorically (*Ulysses* does this - he's replaced with a miscarriage and a random guy at the pub). Meanwhile, Yoshihide has apprentices a dozen and there's *meant* to be this jarring juxtaposition between the narrator calling him an cruel monster and his actions which are clearly that of a desperate parent. If Ryōshū's "daughter" was just some apprentice she'd taken a liking to, I feel like that would raise way too many questions and ignore like a pretty damn big part of the story
Not to mention adjacent cantos seem to share themes and she's right between two cantos about grief and loosing beloved family members to things that may or may not be your fault.
I hope she is a mom. Because look at her! It would be such a good subversion like how in Hellscreen Yoshihide is a loving parent despite the narrator going out of their way to describe him as something awful.
Ryoshu doesn’t look like a mom, nothing about her design screams that she’s a mother (Ryoshu stans you know what I mean.) and fits so well with how Yoshihide is portrayed in the book. It feels like a cop out if they just make the kid adopted or an apprentice(even worse if they omit the kid entirely.)
> Ryoshu doesn’t look like a mom
...I mean nothing about her design says she *isn't* a mum either? Like this isn't an Iori situation where she looks twenty years too young to be who she says she is. She's only "not a mum" if you're idea of one is the sterotypical big titted side ponytail anime mother (like people sterotype with Rodion who like, is the third youngest sinner assuming she's close to her book counterparts age of *21*)
Also I'd argue on a purely adaption level she's not a good representation of Yoshihide because she's not a gaunt 50 year old who looks like a monkey with unpleasantly wet red lips. I know every sinner got a makeover to make them more attractive but like man, she's meant to look kinda creepy.
Honestly my theory is that she lost her son (la project moon limbus genderswap) and it's the reason why she is so close to Sinclair (Who really is just a kid even if he is a young adult in age.)
My favorite theory so far is that her sword IS her kid. Hence why she’s so protective of it(gets offended when compared to the Katana’s the Kurokumo uses, has fleshy bits in it and she coddles it in her EGO Art.)
I just can’t see Ryoshu having anyone she cares about besides her art and sword. Who knows I guess, maybe there’s a reason for it. The Bongy’s restaurant thing is admittedly some evidence for it though.
Many small bits, easy to miss, some others are much more attentive than me can actually give more reasons and details but ill give some.
The mother scene from the chicken event
Her picking sinclair and him being the one who understands her, infact out of all the sinners she has the least amounts of problems with him...and meursault, but meursault has no problems with anyone...that would require the man to actually voice his opinions freely
Nelly is flawed in her own ways but she was one of the few people who were willing to treat Heathcliff as a person rather then some lowly dog, even in a household whose majority of folk discriminated against him in a shameless and unfair manner. She could of given into the peer pressure and bullied Heathcliff too in order uplift her own status within the household but seemingly, she didn't. Even years after Healthcliff fled the house, she didn't seem too resentful for him fleeing and causing more trouble for the main family.
Even that will rub off on Ryoshu, whose own mindset toward what happened to her own child is still up for debate.
Thought of a weird crackpot theory not long ago. It was stated that what was happening in the basement was to create a human. I think what will happen is those pods will birth Cathy from the book (Heathcliff’s cathy’s child), and as a book refference Nelly will be her primary caretaker. And i can see heathcliff while distorted wanting to maybe lashinh out agianst this new cathy for killing his cathy, where Nelly will step in as her protector and final boss of the dungeon. I can see this reflected in ryushu as well since she is also a mother in her litterary work. So if this is the way PM goes, it would explain a lot actually
There could be a connection in that Nelly used to be a very accomplished Fixer prior to settling into the maid job, and I believe it’s mentioned that Ryō used to be much stronger before joining LC.
Nelly Ryoshu ID!
surely nelly will survive this canto right?
not like every single season there's atleast 1 "Dead" ID.
not like every 3rd 000 seasonal ids are ids of dead people.
~~PJM PLEASE LET ATLEAST 1 NPC LIVE I BEG OF YOU.~~
To fit the story Nelly would probably end up alive and same with Josephine. Since at the end of the book wurthering heights those 2 were the only ones left alive. Plus our dead ID would probably end up being Hindley or maybe even Cathy.
Chief butler Ryoshu is finally confirmed. I know that there is a Wuthering heights butler Sinclair teased but I hope the 00 id is a butler from the edgar family, preferably Hong lu.
Echoes of the Manor might be restricted to Wuthering Heights Butlers, though, since they’re directly contracted with the manor. If Nelly Ryoshu doesn’t have Echoes (always could, I suppose, given how deep Cathy’s connection is with the manor and what could be revealed about her in the next part), I’d rather the 00 be Sinclair just so that we get a 3rd character who can inflict the status, just like how there’s a minimum of 3 Pequod IDs who can trigger Heathcliff and Ishmael’s Pequod-exclusive buffs.
3 feels like a nice minimum for faction-specific gimmicks, though we do have RB Gregor whose passive exclusively buffs RB Ryoshu, so not like there isn’t any precedent for something like this.
I hope so, season 2 and season 3 have 6 000 ids that is exclusive to that season but we haven't gotten a roadmap for season 4 so there is a chance for more 000 ids for the intervallos.
M- my wallet... Please, no!
You must GANGNAM as I have!
Uuuuuuh
AHhhhh
Maid Ryoshu Maid Ryoshu Maid Ryoshu
I hear her I hear her I hear her I hear her
Her voice Her voice Her voice Her voice
I'm gonna... I'M GONNA LIMBUSSIN'
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
SHE IS NOT BENEATH ME, BUT BESIDE ME! CURSE ME RYOSHU, SO THAT ME AND MY WALLET MAY SUFFER AS YOU HAVE!
ITS YOUR FAULT PM, IF YOU HAD NOT COOKED SO HARD, MY WALLET WOULD NOT HAVE SUFFERED THE FATE IT HAS NOW!
FLY MY MONEY, CRIPPLED AND BROKE AS YOU ARE!
UUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Ryoshu and Yi Sang didn't get a 000 last season, and if i'm correct, the next Walpurgis night will be after this identity, on the 25th i think, since Ryoshu got one, than it's likely to be Yi Sang.
S.S here we come. Surprised she had no acronyms in her dialogue, guess being a maid and having somebody to care about (Heath) can even change somebody like Ryoshu.
2 more days until peak depression.
Well... we already know Ryoshu was Nelly in the world of wuthrang heights. I suppose this is her turn to arrive. I wonder if Cathymael will accompany her?
Cathy seems to have been an inventor, so likely not a combatant. Plus, can anyone really be Cathy at this point? The reason why Heath became the “wolf” in that Mirror World could have only been because of her, right?
Please be a sinking ID that inflicts echoes of the manor. Boatworks Ishmael is nice and all but she's old news ever since I did a Ricardo solo with her.
I was wrong this whole time I thought we would never get a sinner in an actual maid dress but I was wrong...good thing I didn't make any I'll eat my hat like statementsm
oh no... if this is a teaser ID the way nclair or captain ishmael is then what are the chances we're fighting nelly. Sleepy smack has been hyped up for far too long.
Hopefully she doesn't die but the odds aren't favorable.
"MAID RYOSHU! OH GOD I'M DISTORTING!!! R̸̗̟̝͂͒̾̉̅͊͜͝y̵̼͈͈̱͍͓͂̂̈́͜o̴̡̱̯͖̥̦̪̺̯̪̅͒͒́́̉̕͝s̵̨̪͈̗̤̥̄̽̍̊̎̕͠ͅh̸̠͈͍͇̲̝͔͆̕̚ữ̶̞̗͆͑R̴̘̙̣͚͔̯̦̔̊́͌y̵̡̳̘̺̞͇̼̭̬̯̆̓̍͑͒͌o̵̬̼̖̼͎̮̞͗̋͊̈̓s̷̢̮̦͎̺̬̭̲͗̈̃̾̓̊͋̃͐̕h̴̬̳͆͝û̸̯̙̻͍͉̿̄̇̉͗̊͌R̴̢͕̻̳̻͚̬̼̀͂̾̌̃͊ŷ̵̖̈́̓̿̀̾̕͝͝ǫ̸̨͖̻̩̝͔̟͗̈́̈́̀͛́s̴̥̝͎̖̱̭̺̼̳̈́̈͂̈́̇̐͜h̶͉̲̩̓̒̍͌̽́͗ų̸̡̗̩̖̤̪̒̃̀͝͠R̸̡̛̟͇̔̌̚͘̕͝ͅỷ̶͖͚͔̾̈́̆̑̅͘͝ơ̴̡͔͚͎̻̳͉̪̹͎̐̐̽͊s̴̢̥͕̪̫̆̐̈́̊h̷̢̳̪̪̹̃͂͝͝͝ͅụ̵͗Ř̵̩̗̺̹̠̻͒̃́̽̒y̸̨̖͎̰͎̟̞̝̻͆̒̎̋̓ǫ̵̡̛̱͍̳͙̘̮͚̀̾̆̌̕s̵̨̱̩̘͔̈̓̈́̇͘̕̚͝ͅḧ̷̳̮͉̝̘͋̓͗ǘ̸̗̘̩̱͂̿̉͐̌͌̅̋͘͜" I said in a calm voice.
She remind me of Roberta from "Black Lagoon"
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So apparently people are saying this is ryoshu ID of Nelly, if that so…will we be fighting her!? As they always make id based off enemies and bosses except for a few times like with w corp but still I don’t wanna fight Nelly!
Wait what if it’s an even crazier idea! That coz Heathcliff will be unavailable Nelly! Would be a temporary sinner we can use! She would replace heathcliff slot
Please be a sinking ID that inflicts echoes of the manor. Boatworks Ishmael is nice and all but she's old news ever since I did a Ricardo solo with her.
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It should have been Ishmael, not her!
Outis is supposed to be Josephine. Which I don't like, sure she's age appropriate and the Odysseus thing also kind of fits with a Butler who gives her entire life to fulfill a contract with no end in sight. But also. She's just like Nelly's twin.
Meanwhile Nelly, who we have only seen as caring and kind, gets a murderous maniac running around in her clothes.
Not insulting Ryoshu btw, I love her, she can make me worse.
Given the mother themes associated with Ryoshu, she might end up being revealed as actually being rather nurturing. She also did step up for Heathcliff during the Oufi segment, which she got teased a teensy bit over.l by Dante, or at least was somewhat embarrassed over having it pointed out. Granted, that could have also been construed as her noticing that the Oufi were imposters and not wanting to out herself to having caught on to them.
Oh yeah, I absolutely get that and I completely share the idea that Ryoshu may have a caring side buried under all...that, I'm just complaining because most IDs tend to match the personality of the actual person they're based on, when they're based on someone notable. Like Ahabmael, Naust or Kimsault.
Also, I would have loved for Nelly to be a Rodya ID personality-wise but the role REALLY does not go with her.
Though, that being said, I should probably still wait until the ID releases. Who knows what this Ryoshu will be like.
You really don't need Sinking for Canto 6, it's more than beatable with little to no issues without a single Sinking ID.
The only time I personally had to change stuff up was 6-34, where I just switched QueeCliff for Potential Man (who's honestly more if a gimmick character than a Sinking one) and that was good enough.
Assuming we get more Dead Rabbit's IDs, they seem to be the Rupture IDs for this season.
They could overlap, of course, but assuming they don't, she'll probably be Sinking or something else entirely to differentiate the Butlers and Maids.
I hope it's not a Sinking ID either.
Granted, I don't really know what I *would* want her to be, so there's that.
Honestly, I'm just happy for Maid Ryoshu more than anything, lol
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Actual maid ID, God bless Project Moon. https://preview.redd.it/z8hft109aftc1.jpeg?width=1479&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2723b820ef6299251c35ac25bb6c4f8154348fa
doesnt we already have maid id ?
What we got were butler's not maids
More butler than maid
P.E.A.K.
“Perception-Enamoring Art that Kills” -passerby Sinclair
"Perfectly Executed Art, Kino"
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Maid Ryoshu real Millions shall horny post 😔
Yoru?
Of course the British maid ID would use a knife
God bless project moon 🫡
Her sword is on her hip and not her back. This is new.
The sigh of relief that SWEPT through my soul
Same xD
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I am obsessed with Lebron James oh my glorious king just give me one chance 😩🙏
Nelly ID?
very likely. with handchop move
I can't wait for an imobilizing s3
\[On Hit\] Inflict 5 Paralyze. \[On Hit\] Inflict 5 Paralyze next turn.
If target has 6+ sinking Paralyze 5 next turn You know, so it's in theme with the other ids
Damn, new AOE paralyze?
1 paralyze to everyone !!
Skill 3: S.S. (Sleepy Smack)
Stay Still
It is. Outis' (Josephine) story talks about the Ryoshu leaving Wuthering Heights to work at the Edgar Estate. So Ryoshu's ID is based on Nelly.
Whoa Nelly
Would be surprising. Considering Ryoshu and Nelly are very different. In fact she fits Joseph more than Outis dose.
she's been namedropped as a butler by butler outis before
Outis has the Josephine ID. The aforementioned ID’s uptie story namedrops Ryoshu as “Chief Butler Ryoshu” that left for the Edgar estate. Unlike Josephine and like Nelly she’s wearing a maid outfit. It’s Nelly Ryoshu.
It’s Josephine. In the book Joseph always mentions how Hindley is a bad fit for the master of the House after Mr. Earnshaw passes away. Chief Buttler Outis ID is Nelly
False, look at Butler Outis’ necklace, it’s the same with Josephine’s. Nelly has a different necklace compared to the others.
it's other way around
I tough Outis was the Josephine, also we are getting a maid ID right, Josephine was a buttler.
The way Butler Outis speaks is already a dead give away of being Joseph and the names of her attacks also give it away. Nelly ID would probably have similar attack names to that of Butler Faust.
Farmwatch wanters in shambles as we're getting M.A.I.D. Ryoshu
Martially-Assisted Instigation of Death
Instigator of Death?
She drives people to suicide?
Sinking be like:
We are never getting farm watch. Like how we will never get a Ricardo ID and his sweet sweet MY COOOUUUUUPOOOONS!!!!!!
Never say never, they want money and you have too much of it, so chances are in your favor!
Well Ricardo could happen in the future when we have to deal with the middle again. But then again the chances are very slim.
Bro people still want Farmwatch? We are NEVER getting him he doesn’t make sense and is STINKY AND DUMB
Maid ryoshu is real LETS FUCKING GO https://i.redd.it/92ssjmy7nftc1.gif
This is a pretty big personality shift from Nelly to Ryoshu Nelly. Wonder if that will be reflected in part 3, or if Ryoshu is uh…just like that because F.Y.S.D.W.S.W
I wonder if it’s that big a shift… assuming Nelly took a maternal role for Heathcliff, and seeing how Ryoshu’s almost certainly a mom…
At this point, it would be a shock if Ryoshu ISN’T a mom.
What about the way that Ryoshu acts even remotely hints that she’s a mom lol. What information has been gained “at this point” between release that makes it so certain?
I never said “acts” or “acting”. Anyway. It’s mostly meta and thematic stuff. Her story, as in literary Ryoshu had a child. Yoshihide (Ryoshu is male in the story) had a daughter whom he loved dearly and was the main reason why he took the commission to draw the Hell Screen to begin with (In Ryoshu’s art, the Hell Screen is substituted as the Coty’s Five Fingers). The EGO’s she has either focuses on her obsession with Art, or more interestingly, are somewhat family or child oriented. Biggest examples are her 4th March Flame Ryoshu, which has the backdrop of the match stick girl being ash at this point (which fits how Yoshihide’s daughter was burned to death.), as well as possessing two types of Red Eyes EGO’s. Red Eyes having the abnormality being protective of its brood/children. Some also have pointed out that Ryoshu’s cradling of her sword in her base EGO is reminiscent of a parent cuddling their child( trying to keep them warm despite the inferno outside) and not going to touch on the theories that her sword IS her child. Other hints is that (not sure if this was during the Cooking Event or Hamhampanan collab.) Ryoshu’s signature dish was a Japanese Oyakodon (literally called parent and child). Ryoshu calling Outis’ remark about Bongy’s restaurant harsh when it was revealed to be named after his mother (which is weird given what we know of Ryoshu.) Her affinity to Sinclair is another point people like to bring up because from what we know, Sinclair is the youngest Sinner and was the only one Ryoshu bullied into her side during the cook off. Some of it is speculation admittedly , but given how Project Moon’s tried to keep in line with the Sinners’ literary counterparts, it wouldn’t be too far fetched of an idea. With the new Nelly ID, it reinforces the theory that Ryoshu might be a mother. Hence why I said it would be weird for her to be otherwise. You can find discussions about Ryoshu and the analysis/theories surrounding her character in the Reddit which are better put together than what I wrote here, so I recommend going to check it out.
What about the Christmas event? I think it has a good hint of Ryoshu having a child or is good with children is when instead of Sinclair usually translating her words, she just spells it out for Crayon. Sounds like she has the patience for it when it comes to children. Plus Crayon thinks she's cool. https://preview.redd.it/9b9fmjrjvgtc1.png?width=1552&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42449aadfbba91cf7af0a4df470d41f07f7c41f4
Oh yeah! Sorry, overlooked that moment but I agree! It is interesting to see she’s not dismissive of kids! But looking back on it, it could just be her having very childish things she considers cool in general (Glances at W Ryoshu) but it could also show that Ryoshu genuinely seems to be nicer to kids and why her art is more geared to the juvenile type of “cool” because her main audience was her kid.
Ryōshū is the "cool mom" that you brag about when you're a kid, felt embarrassed about as a teen, and learned to truly appreciate as an adult
word that IS subtle
I'd also add that compared to the other sinners who are also parents in their original works she's the only one who's really gotten any sort of hinting like this (I would argue Outis is more complicated given a rather important part of *the Odyssey* is how Odysseus *isn't* a father), and *Hellscreen* is possibly the hardest story to divorce from it's paternal nature. Faust is highly allegorical and tbh Faust's kids don't have a massive role character wise, Heathcliff is only really a close adaption of the first half of the book and probably won't bring up the second generation, and while Telemachus is an important character, it's entirely possible to do his role metaphorically (*Ulysses* does this - he's replaced with a miscarriage and a random guy at the pub). Meanwhile, Yoshihide has apprentices a dozen and there's *meant* to be this jarring juxtaposition between the narrator calling him an cruel monster and his actions which are clearly that of a desperate parent. If Ryōshū's "daughter" was just some apprentice she'd taken a liking to, I feel like that would raise way too many questions and ignore like a pretty damn big part of the story Not to mention adjacent cantos seem to share themes and she's right between two cantos about grief and loosing beloved family members to things that may or may not be your fault.
I hope she is a mom. Because look at her! It would be such a good subversion like how in Hellscreen Yoshihide is a loving parent despite the narrator going out of their way to describe him as something awful. Ryoshu doesn’t look like a mom, nothing about her design screams that she’s a mother (Ryoshu stans you know what I mean.) and fits so well with how Yoshihide is portrayed in the book. It feels like a cop out if they just make the kid adopted or an apprentice(even worse if they omit the kid entirely.)
> Ryoshu doesn’t look like a mom ...I mean nothing about her design says she *isn't* a mum either? Like this isn't an Iori situation where she looks twenty years too young to be who she says she is. She's only "not a mum" if you're idea of one is the sterotypical big titted side ponytail anime mother (like people sterotype with Rodion who like, is the third youngest sinner assuming she's close to her book counterparts age of *21*) Also I'd argue on a purely adaption level she's not a good representation of Yoshihide because she's not a gaunt 50 year old who looks like a monkey with unpleasantly wet red lips. I know every sinner got a makeover to make them more attractive but like man, she's meant to look kinda creepy.
Honestly my theory is that she lost her son (la project moon limbus genderswap) and it's the reason why she is so close to Sinclair (Who really is just a kid even if he is a young adult in age.)
My favorite theory so far is that her sword IS her kid. Hence why she’s so protective of it(gets offended when compared to the Katana’s the Kurokumo uses, has fleshy bits in it and she coddles it in her EGO Art.)
I just can’t see Ryoshu having anyone she cares about besides her art and sword. Who knows I guess, maybe there’s a reason for it. The Bongy’s restaurant thing is admittedly some evidence for it though.
Funny thing is, in Hell Screen. Narrator remarks the same thing about Yoshihide because he is perceived as a lunatic and an obsessive artist.
Many small bits, easy to miss, some others are much more attentive than me can actually give more reasons and details but ill give some. The mother scene from the chicken event Her picking sinclair and him being the one who understands her, infact out of all the sinners she has the least amounts of problems with him...and meursault, but meursault has no problems with anyone...that would require the man to actually voice his opinions freely
Nelly is flawed in her own ways but she was one of the few people who were willing to treat Heathcliff as a person rather then some lowly dog, even in a household whose majority of folk discriminated against him in a shameless and unfair manner. She could of given into the peer pressure and bullied Heathcliff too in order uplift her own status within the household but seemingly, she didn't. Even years after Healthcliff fled the house, she didn't seem too resentful for him fleeing and causing more trouble for the main family. Even that will rub off on Ryoshu, whose own mindset toward what happened to her own child is still up for debate.
Outis uptie story did say that ryoshu was fond of heathcliff and faust expressed worried that it might cloud her strategies in the hunt
a reply to all those who came back to read this comment that they upvoted... >!OHHHH SHIET!<
Finna Yi Sang Don't Worry Super Wario
Uhhh close I guess
That doesnt scream much confidence, can you call sinclair or tsunul for this?
Fuck You Should Do When Sinclair Wallows?
Fist?
Fuck you she does whatever she wants?
Oh damn someone actually got it lmao good job
sinclair is that you???
Thought of a weird crackpot theory not long ago. It was stated that what was happening in the basement was to create a human. I think what will happen is those pods will birth Cathy from the book (Heathcliff’s cathy’s child), and as a book refference Nelly will be her primary caretaker. And i can see heathcliff while distorted wanting to maybe lashinh out agianst this new cathy for killing his cathy, where Nelly will step in as her protector and final boss of the dungeon. I can see this reflected in ryushu as well since she is also a mother in her litterary work. So if this is the way PM goes, it would explain a lot actually
There could be a connection in that Nelly used to be a very accomplished Fixer prior to settling into the maid job, and I believe it’s mentioned that Ryō used to be much stronger before joining LC.
It's obviously cause she needs to be the singular bleed ID this season.
I'm like yeah she's fine Wonder when she'll be mine
She walk past, I press rewind
https://preview.redd.it/nhi1z4ne9ftc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5603cce805066352311864e2aa63acf210510424
Nelly Ryoshu ID! surely nelly will survive this canto right? not like every single season there's atleast 1 "Dead" ID. not like every 3rd 000 seasonal ids are ids of dead people. ~~PJM PLEASE LET ATLEAST 1 NPC LIVE I BEG OF YOU.~~
She already was announced to be an announcer,he fate is sealed-
But one (half) of the announcer is still alive so she still join that.
Watch her die next canto
To fit the story Nelly would probably end up alive and same with Josephine. Since at the end of the book wurthering heights those 2 were the only ones left alive. Plus our dead ID would probably end up being Hindley or maybe even Cathy.
Hindley ID be strongest hobo of today vs strongest hobo in history (sunheath)
Fell the power of CANE!
> not like every 3rd 000 seasonal ids are ids of dead people. That's a very specific number.
People just love making up arbitrary rules so they can get surprised when PM breaks them
https://preview.redd.it/6fo3v0dp7ftc1.jpeg?width=683&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb024afb7f0eff6f3557bdd4feeed97b21abbae8 Maid Ryoshu, finally
MAID RYOSHU IM BLESSED
Sakuya Ryoshu!!!
Nah I'd teaser
Chief butler Ryoshu is finally confirmed. I know that there is a Wuthering heights butler Sinclair teased but I hope the 00 id is a butler from the edgar family, preferably Hong lu.
Echoes of the Manor might be restricted to Wuthering Heights Butlers, though, since they’re directly contracted with the manor. If Nelly Ryoshu doesn’t have Echoes (always could, I suppose, given how deep Cathy’s connection is with the manor and what could be revealed about her in the next part), I’d rather the 00 be Sinclair just so that we get a 3rd character who can inflict the status, just like how there’s a minimum of 3 Pequod IDs who can trigger Heathcliff and Ishmael’s Pequod-exclusive buffs. 3 feels like a nice minimum for faction-specific gimmicks, though we do have RB Gregor whose passive exclusively buffs RB Ryoshu, so not like there isn’t any precedent for something like this.
Maybe we'll get eight Season ID's? \*inhales copium\*
I hope so, season 2 and season 3 have 6 000 ids that is exclusive to that season but we haven't gotten a roadmap for season 4 so there is a chance for more 000 ids for the intervallos.
M- my wallet... Please, no! You must GANGNAM as I have! Uuuuuuh AHhhhh Maid Ryoshu Maid Ryoshu Maid Ryoshu I hear her I hear her I hear her I hear her Her voice Her voice Her voice Her voice I'm gonna... I'M GONNA LIMBUSSIN' OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SHE IS NOT BENEATH ME, BUT BESIDE ME! CURSE ME RYOSHU, SO THAT ME AND MY WALLET MAY SUFFER AS YOU HAVE! ITS YOUR FAULT PM, IF YOU HAD NOT COOKED SO HARD, MY WALLET WOULD NOT HAVE SUFFERED THE FATE IT HAS NOW! FLY MY MONEY, CRIPPLED AND BROKE AS YOU ARE! UUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Bro is gonna visit carmen and thought we wouldn’t notice 💀
Bro gonna accept spending his entire fortune for maid ryoshu and manifest e.g.o
No way, actual maid ID
Ryoshu and Yi Sang didn't get a 000 last season, and if i'm correct, the next Walpurgis night will be after this identity, on the 25th i think, since Ryoshu got one, than it's likely to be Yi Sang.
wtf maid yi sang next???
Queen of Hatred Hong Lu
shi ryōshu team are hopeless
Does- does anybody hear that? It sounds like...music? Where's it coming from? *Flowering Nights gets LOUDER.*
How much a.r.t. can ypu create in the stopped time?
S.S here we come. Surprised she had no acronyms in her dialogue, guess being a maid and having somebody to care about (Heath) can even change somebody like Ryoshu. 2 more days until peak depression.
Nelly is still on the chopping block, what a week
IT FUCKING REALLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!
Born just at the right time for peak fiction!
There is a god and her name is Ryoshu
Nelly my beloved Please PM whatever you do let her live
YIPPPEEEEE YIPPEEEE YIPPEEEEE YIPPPPPEEEEEE YIPPPEEEEEEEE
Walpurgisnacht who? I see Sakuya Ryoshu I roll!
THE MAID RYOSHU IS REAL!!! BANANAMOTH AWAKENING EGO RIGHT NOW!!! (I thought it was bait until I saw game content flair)
Time to use all my (10) egoshard crates to shard her.
Correct writing is "nah I'd teaser"
ITS HERE ITS HERE ITS HERE IM SO EXCITED THIS IS EVERYTHING I WANTED IM NOT GETTING FARMWATCHED BDJSKFKSBFNDKSKSS
My brainrot made me read "Nah, I'd teaser"
Veteran Maid Ryoshu. Now we wait for Veteran Butler ID.
My girl just got peak ID yahoo, but also I really want a veteran maid ID, the one that throws a knife in their kit
Well, those maids are under Nelly, so she probably has the same moves
She’ll clearly have skill reuse as part of her gimmick, right?
S.S (Sleepy Smack) Coin 1: If target is alive, re-use Coin.
We can finally get softlocked on the Centipede once again
She is finally here!
Bleed ID I wager! (Please PM we got enough Sinking already)
As a Ryoshu simp... ...I KNEEL.
Finally limbus company has peaked
finaly, touhou colab. we got sakuya
THE CONTENT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR (AND BUTLER OUTIS)
MAID RYOSHU LETS GOO
im definitely not getting her bro i just got baited thinking im getting clinton gregor and then the game gives me lantern sinclair ego
Finally... My wife...
NELLY RYOSHU LET'S GOOOO
I wonder what will Heath's id be... We got Ahab Ish. So who's the next one?
Well... we already know Ryoshu was Nelly in the world of wuthrang heights. I suppose this is her turn to arrive. I wonder if Cathymael will accompany her?
Cathy seems to have been an inventor, so likely not a combatant. Plus, can anyone really be Cathy at this point? The reason why Heath became the “wolf” in that Mirror World could have only been because of her, right?
How would Heathcliff being raised by Ryoshu affect him?
Please be a sinking ID that inflicts echoes of the manor. Boatworks Ishmael is nice and all but she's old news ever since I did a Ricardo solo with her.
I was wrong this whole time I thought we would never get a sinner in an actual maid dress but I was wrong...good thing I didn't make any I'll eat my hat like statementsm
Guess they were staggering the reveal.
Ishcliff shippers distoritng over no ishcathy id
Please be sinking, I'm waiting for a sinking Ryoshu for decades at this point
sakuya id? from touhou
It can't be Ryoshu Heathcliff...can it?
I think it's Nelly ryoshu so rip nelly
We can see a big box of some sort in her hand and some butler attire... So i have to agree that that's a better guess.
it's already spoiled by Josephis' uptie story on day 1 of this season. It's 300% Nellyoshu
oh no... if this is a teaser ID the way nclair or captain ishmael is then what are the chances we're fighting nelly. Sleepy smack has been hyped up for far too long. Hopefully she doesn't die but the odds aren't favorable.
I'm guessing we will play a map as heath mid distorting fighting Nelly who will die but bring him back from distorting
WE GOT SAKUYA RYOSHU BEFORE FARMWATCH LMAOO
THE MAID RYOSHU IS REAL!!! EDIT: Calling it right now, the 00 is going to be Hindley.
could be wrong but this is like the first time we have a sinner wearing a dress right?
Yep
We ain't ready for Hong Lu to be rocking the Maid dress as the 00, on God
HOLY SHIT, IT IS HER!!!
Is this coming on Thursday?
Probably an early teaser for next week. They used to release the teaser images on Tuesdays when the game first launched and still do it sometimes.
One day, we shall have an entire team dressed as maids. It WILL be peak.
"MAID RYOSHU! OH GOD I'M DISTORTING!!! R̸̗̟̝͂͒̾̉̅͊͜͝y̵̼͈͈̱͍͓͂̂̈́͜o̴̡̱̯͖̥̦̪̺̯̪̅͒͒́́̉̕͝s̵̨̪͈̗̤̥̄̽̍̊̎̕͠ͅh̸̠͈͍͇̲̝͔͆̕̚ữ̶̞̗͆͑R̴̘̙̣͚͔̯̦̔̊́͌y̵̡̳̘̺̞͇̼̭̬̯̆̓̍͑͒͌o̵̬̼̖̼͎̮̞͗̋͊̈̓s̷̢̮̦͎̺̬̭̲͗̈̃̾̓̊͋̃͐̕h̴̬̳͆͝û̸̯̙̻͍͉̿̄̇̉͗̊͌R̴̢͕̻̳̻͚̬̼̀͂̾̌̃͊ŷ̵̖̈́̓̿̀̾̕͝͝ǫ̸̨͖̻̩̝͔̟͗̈́̈́̀͛́s̴̥̝͎̖̱̭̺̼̳̈́̈͂̈́̇̐͜h̶͉̲̩̓̒̍͌̽́͗ų̸̡̗̩̖̤̪̒̃̀͝͠R̸̡̛̟͇̔̌̚͘̕͝ͅỷ̶͖͚͔̾̈́̆̑̅͘͝ơ̴̡͔͚͎̻̳͉̪̹͎̐̐̽͊s̴̢̥͕̪̫̆̐̈́̊h̷̢̳̪̪̹̃͂͝͝͝ͅụ̵͗Ř̵̩̗̺̹̠̻͒̃́̽̒y̸̨̖͎̰͎̟̞̝̻͆̒̎̋̓ǫ̵̡̛̱͍̳͙̘̮͚̀̾̆̌̕s̵̨̱̩̘͔̈̓̈́̇͘̕̚͝ͅḧ̷̳̮͉̝̘͋̓͗ǘ̸̗̘̩̱͂̿̉͐̌͌̅̋͘͜" I said in a calm voice.
I need this so badly I finally decided to do the railway for the first time just to make sure I'd have plenty of pulls for her.
She remind me of Roberta from "Black Lagoon" https://preview.redd.it/q63i3bsylltc1.jpeg?width=364&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77b92b8e80da0110abaf89632364c52ae82e226d
So apparently people are saying this is ryoshu ID of Nelly, if that so…will we be fighting her!? As they always make id based off enemies and bosses except for a few times like with w corp but still I don’t wanna fight Nelly!
I think Nelly will try to stop Heathcliff from distorting and die in the process
Wait what if it’s an even crazier idea! That coz Heathcliff will be unavailable Nelly! Would be a temporary sinner we can use! She would replace heathcliff slot
I was right! Hahahaha they always make id on enemies
Finally, Maid
Please be a sinking ID that inflicts echoes of the manor. Boatworks Ishmael is nice and all but she's old news ever since I did a Ricardo solo with her.
I would by disappointed if ryoshu fans were weird in a normal way about her in a French maid dress. I wanna she physical shrines by tomorrow.
https://preview.redd.it/7obgnvw9ggtc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b296e1a198524be4d87461ec52ac3ad40aa565c It should have been Ishmael, not her!
THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT! See PM? Was it so hard to make a MAID? Now let's just se how broken she is. W Ryoshu may finally take a breather.
Isn't outis nelly already so that's 2 nelly ids? Or maybe she is gonna be a different maid for edgar
Outis is Joséphine
Outis is supposed to be Josephine. Which I don't like, sure she's age appropriate and the Odysseus thing also kind of fits with a Butler who gives her entire life to fulfill a contract with no end in sight. But also. She's just like Nelly's twin. Meanwhile Nelly, who we have only seen as caring and kind, gets a murderous maniac running around in her clothes. Not insulting Ryoshu btw, I love her, she can make me worse.
Given the mother themes associated with Ryoshu, she might end up being revealed as actually being rather nurturing. She also did step up for Heathcliff during the Oufi segment, which she got teased a teensy bit over.l by Dante, or at least was somewhat embarrassed over having it pointed out. Granted, that could have also been construed as her noticing that the Oufi were imposters and not wanting to out herself to having caught on to them.
Oh yeah, I absolutely get that and I completely share the idea that Ryoshu may have a caring side buried under all...that, I'm just complaining because most IDs tend to match the personality of the actual person they're based on, when they're based on someone notable. Like Ahabmael, Naust or Kimsault. Also, I would have loved for Nelly to be a Rodya ID personality-wise but the role REALLY does not go with her. Though, that being said, I should probably still wait until the ID releases. Who knows what this Ryoshu will be like.
Please, let it not be a Sinking ID. I have no resources to field an entire sinking team.
You really don't need Sinking for Canto 6, it's more than beatable with little to no issues without a single Sinking ID. The only time I personally had to change stuff up was 6-34, where I just switched QueeCliff for Potential Man (who's honestly more if a gimmick character than a Sinking one) and that was good enough.
Not sure what you talking about, i didn't beat those stage with sinking id (though it's a min maxed pride team with the weakest id being lvl41)
What if it's rupture
Assuming we get more Dead Rabbit's IDs, they seem to be the Rupture IDs for this season. They could overlap, of course, but assuming they don't, she'll probably be Sinking or something else entirely to differentiate the Butlers and Maids.
I hope it's not a Sinking ID either. Granted, I don't really know what I *would* want her to be, so there's that. Honestly, I'm just happy for Maid Ryoshu more than anything, lol
A debuff id that is just like the maids that inflict 200 of them?
I wouldn't know what the Maids actually do, I just hit win rate and they died lol.