my piano teachers charged about that. my teachers were juilliard educated and put a lot of work and passion toward their teaching though so it was well worth the cost if you could afford it.
Yeah, I charge $60 an hour, but I’m in Tucson so things are a little cheaper here. I should probably be closer to 70 or 80 but I have a full time job in music so I can afford to be “cheap” for my students.
I'm in a high cost of living area and would likely charge this rate if I started teaching (voice and piano) again, though it would likely be mostly half-hour lessons to kids. I have my Bachelor degree in Music with voice as my instrument. There's also the expense of whatever space the teacher is in as well as all the self-employed expenses and taxes to consider, and lastly the time it takes to plan the lesson.
Current piano teacher, this is my rate. It’s a side hustle though so I’m not trying to make a living off it, just trying to keep my teaching chops in place.
Value is determined by the unity of consumer and producer. Some people wouldn’t pay more than $25/hour for a lesson; while some teachers wouldn’t charge less than $30/hour.
Me? $100/hour and my students willingly pay it. The result? better, more engaged students (skill is inconsequential; discipline and respect of the craft is what i’m after).
I’ve had students offer me $150/hour for virtual, with an extra $100 to provide transcribed notation.
Some people view music lessons as the brussel sprouts that they don’t want to eat; as such, they would view me as diabolically scheming to scam each and every potential. Meanwhile, others view music lessons as the necessary accomplice to a fulfilling life. The fiscal contribution is negligent to the satisfaction.
People pay for what they want to. My only caveat: don’t charge beyond your actual worth
Yes in India, the price range of beginner's violins are like that. But those have a limited sound and might sound a bit cringe, and I played on them for the first 2 years of my violin career.
Being an Indian, I play on a semi-professional violin which costs Rs 13,000. Along with bow and case and other accessories it costs Rs20,000.
My used intermediate level violin in the United States cost $700 - which is a very good price. That's about rs 60,000. A professional level kit at the very cheapest here is $5000-10000, (rs 4-8 lakh).
Music lessons here are at a minimum about $50 per hour.
I'm really hoping you are a troll or maybe you are younger and don't understand the breadth of a hobby (or job to some) like this.
You should know every hobby has levels to it.
Your 3 dollar violin lessons may be great for a beginner but you should exhaust that pretty quickly and intermediate lessons are not going to be 3 dollars.
A violin is like a tool, there are beginners tools, tools that promise you the world and deliver nothing, tools for regular folk, tools for professionals and tools that will enable you to create exquisite work unique to the entire world.
There are some things you just can't do on a 75 dollar violin that you would want a 25000 USD violin for. These people aren't throwing around money for no reason, the violin is an investment in their play and craft.
I 100% agree
on a side note, why do violins, and I suppose a lot of stringed instruments in general, cost so much more than pretty much any other instrument? like, I mainly play saxophone, and a good intermediate horn is typically around one to two thousand usd, whereas it'd be quadruple that for a similar quality violin, from what I understand. like, the fanciest, world class grand pianos are a fraction of how much the most expensive violins sell for, which is just bonkers to me.
my best guess is that violins aren't one that you can really mass produce, and so a lot of manual work is required to get the correct shaping, glueing, and whatever else goes into a violin, where's with most other instruments it's a lot easier to just make a machine do it, at least in part. so it's not really the parts your paying for, or even the quality of the instrument (which is probably the biggest factor with saxophones), but the craftsmanship of the person who made the instrument?
I may be completely wrong here, but it's been something that I've been curious about for a bit, but haven't really seen a direct answer to (realizing now that I could just search it up, but I already typed this comment, plus it does make for interesting discussion). most people here probably play stringed instruments and know better than I (I just play woodwinds and piano) so I'm curious to hear others thoughts on it
A good student bassoon appropriate for entering university costs $10,000USD new (Fox 240). A new professional bassoon costs $70,000 presently with a 17 year waitlist (Heckel).
If this was really as clear cut as you make it to be 3/4 of the world wouldn't have professional musicians. Yes 72 is not a lot for an instrument generally, but you don't really need 25000 even as a pro. People have been making great music with a lot less. People that can afford it, buy luxury level stuff, it always been the case; some don't, and the difference in the end result is not as big as one would think.
I never said you do.
I listed the professional level instrument for a reason, a 25k violin is a professional's instrument but it's not needed for every professional. Trying to say that's what I want is very much misinterpreting my words.
I literally called a 25k violin an investment.
yes, but u see, even by those standards, I bet they dont charge 3 USD an hour even on ur first 2 weeks of class. Yes, these are intermediate classes, but even the proffesional classes would not be more than 1000 rupees per hour or 12 dollars an hour which, according to moast ppl here is a steal. and yes, ofc u get wt u pay for but, we must consider that, no mattar how much one can deny it, its pretty cheap in here.
Ik ik, but i was just putting in how much surprised I was to see the cost of music in other countries and was just sharing something because there are not many of us in my country. isnt it what this is all abt? Knowing more abt our vast community all over the world and sharing our experience relevent to topic??
The cost of living in India is 82% lower on average than in the United States (this is not shade, it's based on statistical fact,) so it's not really fair to directly compare costs of lessons.
What you’re saying makes no sense. Surely the downvotes must have tipped you off.
Please educate yourself on how cost of living factors into these things.
u/Shresth_Shrotriya it literally is not lmao, I'm Indian as well, I live in the US, it is not lil bro, different places around the world cost different amounts of money to live in. $60/hr is considered average here, which is what I pay for my violin lessons. India is comparatively so much cheaper than the U.S. in every aspect possible. So, what the guy's saying is right, it's not fair to compare the price of a class in India to the price of a class in the U.S. as there are various other aspects to consider.
You don't understand the basic concept of income differentiation in countries. The salary you get from a job in India will be much different than the salary you get in the U.S., and the stuff you pay for will be priced differently in India than in the U.S.. Plus, don't take this to offense, but a lot more people in other places are more educated on this Western violin style whereas in India, more people focus on the Indian style (Carnatic).
So, chances are, there could also be less demand in India for people to learn Western violin from a teacher than learning Indian violin. Therefore, Western violin teachers in India might be more inclined to lower their prices in order to attract more customers. It's the basic supply & demand curve. Oh also, one more thing, no matter where the violin originates from, whatever imported from Australia etc etc, a $75 violin is not going to sound very good at all.
no no no! I think u guys got it wrong!! I meant it most certainly is not fair to compare rates in other countries. I was just saying abt how music costs less in here. Did u guys think I said its ok to do so?? My bad. I know a little bit abt the world and know that that sentence is right!
Music pedagogy student here. Obviously country and average income plays big part here but personally I wouldn't take students cheaper than 40€/hour. Over 20% VAT doesn't help either.
Some of us charge far more than that!
Growing up I paid probably $40/hr average for lessons, and now I charge double that. So just remember it goes both ways - low cost lessons means worse teacher wages and living conditions.
my teacher teaches at a school, (he was comfortable to only share that much) and takes classes for all other kids in the evenings, and does not have to pay to rent a place, because he has a pretty spacious house. I think thats y he does not have to charge much.
So you can hear you’re describing someone who’s needing to work 50 hrs a week or more? That’s not very humane. But even with all of that is the amount he charges an actual living wage? Can someone with that wage visit a doctor or afford to be sick? Your sticker shock about lessons seems to include shock that a teacher would be able to live off the wages comfortably or as a primary job.
Your area not valuing or paying well for music isn’t a flex.
That is definitely how what you wrote reads, yes. You shouldn’t be so shocked that in other places, music can be a whole career rather than something you do after work.
thats not true for everyone, i did not tell my teacher that I would pay that much, he told me that and i agreed, i would have paid much more had he asked.
lol, but i wont quit violin till the end of my life, I know thats wt they all say but, i have a diffrent story and don't think i will give up on this skill that I am trying to develop.
This is the answer. Even if you easily make that much money, it's the average wages in the area that will help to set the prices. OP seems to be 12 years old, I think.
My teacher is 65 canadian $ an hour and people are saying its rlly good and pretty cheap😭. My student level viola also cost me 1600$. To be fair my luthier takes it back at 70% of the cost so that pretty good.
I pay 100 CHF per hour and that is with a discount. Switzerland is pricey, and I am ok to pay good money for a service I value. I take weekly individual singing classes from a vocal coach, mostly over Skype, sometimes in person. withut the discount she charges 150 CHF and that. is totally expected here. Edit: I am an adult, and have been taking lessons for three years now. Before that I have only been singing in amateur choirs. I can afford it.
Georgia, USA I was paying $100 a month for 1/2 hour private viola lessons but I just started. Scales, Suzuki Book 1, basics with the teacher playing piano and correcting me when needed.
Some months it is 4 lessons, some are 5, and some are 3 if I cancel. Most lessons are closer to 40 minutes.
Like everyone else has said, it definitely varies by country..also, since you've only just started, it's normal for things to cost less. Everyone wants different results from their music, and prices change based on what you want to get out of it. Personally, my viola lessons are 92.5 usd for 45 minutes, it's just what you have to pay for professionals who are highly qualified in their fields to teach you. You're not just paying for their time and teaching, their price also include all the effort they spent getting to where they are, like their experiences and educations.
I'm so glad that in Czech art education is considered part of educational system and is mostly paid by state. I'm paying for my son's musical education in total equivalent of 110 USD per semester, that includes werkly violin lesson, weekly musical theory lesson and rent of size appropriate violin. That means I don't have to buy quarter and half size violin my son used. As he will grow older he will have more lessons per week and school orchestra lessons.
It is lovely that your son can take orchestra in school. It was part of my school, as well, in the US…way back in the 70’s. Absolute shame that it is not a part of many curricula now. I remember when my parents bought my first full-sized violin to get out of rentals. Was so excited.
I did not start taking lessons until high school. I played in a very large youth symphony and wanted to just keep up. But the school music program got me there.
I play regularly now, and that fiddle my parents bought me? They paid a couple of hundred wayback when. Still my favorite.
I'm a newew piano teacher in the Caribbean. I charge $12.83 USD an hour in my currency. It's a good competitive price for my level of experience. In comparison, I was paying my piano teacher $45 USD for a two hour class (ao $22.5 per hour) - and he has way more experience than I do
my teacher teaches at a school, (he was comfortable to only share that much) and takes classes for all other kids in the evenings, and does not have to pay to rent a place to teach, because he has a pretty spacious house. I think thats y he does not have to charge much. and also, 3 dollars is enough here to get 5 liters of milk which is 1.32 gallons.
at least where i live in the US, for piano average cost of lessons is like $70-80. even the local lessons can go up to like $90/ hour. mine cost $100 per hour help 😭😭. i used to get voice lessons online from india and they were rlly cheap
My violin is worth more than my car….. mainly cause I don’t have a car XD
When I get my masters I’m debating If I should get a new violin or a new watch….
But yes, music in Europe is super expensive
My current instrument cost 780 euros when I bought it 14 years ago in 7th grade and it’s not a particularly good one (though I got a decent sound out by investing a few dozen hours into finding the perfect bridge position)
It had a full makeover 3 years ago and every year I pay about 230€ for a set of new strings and a rehair if my bow
I think my lessons were 65€/h
I pay 30 USD per half hour lesson. I also charge 30 USD for a half hour lesson.
This seems to be the going rate, unless you're like a symphony player or something (which I am not and my kids teachers aren't either)
You can buy a violin for that price in most countries, just not something for the long run, It's either a good 8 years reliable violin OR a $72USD one, not both.
Keep in mind, you said It yourself that you don't know if your teacher is being honest. It's very unlikely that a $72 instrument imported from Australia is a quality violin that'll last 8 years without holding you back. How much do you think that same instrument sells for in Australia before the extra cost of shipping It to India + your teacher's profit!? It's a beginner's violin, which doesn't mean it's not going to be a nice one to start with. It's just not something suitable for almost a decade of playing.
Edit: wording
It depends on the country, cost of living, experience and reputation of the teacher, etc. A top teacher for advanced students in some parts of the USA can easily cost over $300/ hour.
Honestly, when I found out how expensive music lessons are, I was absolutely SHOOK. The first professional piano lessons I got were from a doctor of music who was the head of the music department at my local college. I was a teenager, but I did it as dual credit through the college, and the fee for a 16 week semester of hour-long weekly lessons was literally 200-ish dollars.
I went from $25 per lesson to $80 per lesson. The more expensive instructor pushed me a lot harder than the initial instructor. Strict af, but thanks for the lessons
I live in the US in the Midwest and I teach private violin lessons. I teach 30 minute lessons for kiddos all ages, and some even adults. I get paid $10/lesson.
Can I learn online through your teacher? :D I began self taught 3 weeks ago but have only played for the first week really, I can play well but I stopped because I NEED a job to afford lessons as $45 per half hour is the usual here. So I am trying to learn skills to get a job instead.
I understand your confusion, its important to know you cannot just compare the flat price in dollar amount of different countries, because the buying power of that money varies locally too.
In usa lets say average lesson is 22usd, the average hourly income is 28usd. In india you say your lessons are 250rupees , average hourly pay in india on a quick google search is about 180rupees. When you compare it this way the india lesson actually costs more. Those numbers may not be accurate but you get the idea.
As for the violin, the price will also vary wildly. Nothing wrong with a cheaper violin for casual hobby or just starting out-- the crazy expensive ones are concert grades. Just another quick google, saw a basic concert grade violin in india costs about 50,000rupee. So again it is not exactly the same prices, but its not the crazy difference you describe (◐‿◑)
That's because the cost of labour is low. How much does a person working the till at McDonalds earn where you live? In Australia a 20 yr old would earn approx $17.84 USD per hour. Makes sense that a music teacher would charge more than that.
I think people in the U.S. have to keep in mind that lessons hourly rate varies by state and city so comparing across the country makes no sense and in Europe it varies across countries. There are so many factors that make up that cost. One ex: is I thought English in Spain and the cost varied by teacher regardless of location. I charged a decent amount like €15 and up depending on what was required of me to do. Every teacher is different they each have their own reasons for the rate they charge. So all in all this person will finally find the same thing happen as they switch teachers well if they do.
It really varies by country. My harp lessons in Ireland are €65/h but I'm focusing more on trad music (lever harp is enough for that). It's a very expensive country to live!
Maybe in India everything is cheaper. 🤷♀️
I have a friend who wants to join taekwondo with me but because of her violin classes she can’t. They cost like, 300$ a month and her class takes place at like 8:30 pm on a SCHOOL NIGHT. So taekwondo is out of their budget and they don’t have time. I still don’t understand what is so good about those classes but at least she’s good at playing the violin?
Oh and it’s once a week plus only an hour long so…$75 an hour?? Idk but the pricing is crazy. I had violin lessons too at one point but I had them from India and it was online(yea idk how or why that worked) but yeah you get the point
Private lessons last taken in the late 80's. My parents paid $75 a month for once a week hour long lessons. Yes my two violins are worth more than my life.
My biggest question.... How did you manage to get a two year warranty on STRINGS?!
I've never heard of any music teacher charging $22 per hour. I and most other teachers I know charge upwards of $60 an hour. You can't compare the Indian economy to U.S. economy really, but it sounds like your teacher is charging way too little. Probably because a) he doesn't need the money, b) he just enjoys teaching, c) he might be still charging you the rate from 50 years ago or something. We music teachers are notorious for not raising our rates as regularly as inflation raises the cost of living...
It may be cheap in USD, but what is the average income in USD in India? It's 400 USD. I bring home 2000 USD a month, that 20 bucks is a drop of water, and only slightly more percent of my income than an Indian teacher is to the average Indian income.
I've got 10 years of essential musical education as a kid (violin, piano, musical theory, music history, orchestra, choir) in Ukraine completely for free because I'm from a family with 3+ kids. My friends from smaller families paid around 2-10 USD per month for the same education. We only had to buy or rent our instruments, and that's it. I guess I have to consider myself lucky
The prices of violins, cellos, violas, and basses are dependent upon their age/quality. The older a violin is, the ‘finer’ the wood quality is, which increases the instrument’s value. I wouldn’t pay less than $500,000 USD for a violin if I were to pursue a professional career. I would be willing to pay in the millions for the right violin.
What? I thought 60 dollars per hour is considered cheap
my piano teachers charged about that. my teachers were juilliard educated and put a lot of work and passion toward their teaching though so it was well worth the cost if you could afford it.
Yeah, I charge $60 an hour, but I’m in Tucson so things are a little cheaper here. I should probably be closer to 70 or 80 but I have a full time job in music so I can afford to be “cheap” for my students.
I'm in a high cost of living area and would likely charge this rate if I started teaching (voice and piano) again, though it would likely be mostly half-hour lessons to kids. I have my Bachelor degree in Music with voice as my instrument. There's also the expense of whatever space the teacher is in as well as all the self-employed expenses and taxes to consider, and lastly the time it takes to plan the lesson.
thats a dollar per minute
Current piano teacher, this is my rate. It’s a side hustle though so I’m not trying to make a living off it, just trying to keep my teaching chops in place.
Yeah, this is around what my saxophone lessons cost- although at one point it was even higher
Value is determined by the unity of consumer and producer. Some people wouldn’t pay more than $25/hour for a lesson; while some teachers wouldn’t charge less than $30/hour. Me? $100/hour and my students willingly pay it. The result? better, more engaged students (skill is inconsequential; discipline and respect of the craft is what i’m after). I’ve had students offer me $150/hour for virtual, with an extra $100 to provide transcribed notation. Some people view music lessons as the brussel sprouts that they don’t want to eat; as such, they would view me as diabolically scheming to scam each and every potential. Meanwhile, others view music lessons as the necessary accomplice to a fulfilling life. The fiscal contribution is negligent to the satisfaction. People pay for what they want to. My only caveat: don’t charge beyond your actual worth
Depends on the area - I’d say that’s cheap where I live
Yes in India, the price range of beginner's violins are like that. But those have a limited sound and might sound a bit cringe, and I played on them for the first 2 years of my violin career. Being an Indian, I play on a semi-professional violin which costs Rs 13,000. Along with bow and case and other accessories it costs Rs20,000.
My used intermediate level violin in the United States cost $700 - which is a very good price. That's about rs 60,000. A professional level kit at the very cheapest here is $5000-10000, (rs 4-8 lakh). Music lessons here are at a minimum about $50 per hour.
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Yeah, things cost different amounts in different countries. Don't look up the price of food in the US and UK, is all I have to say.
it costs around £30 for music, at least piano lessons in south east england here.
Per hour? Or is that for a 30 minute lesson?
South-West Englander here, that's for an hour.
Wow that’s cheap.
Even more than that in London 😭
this is kinda funny to read ngl. OP, how old are you?
16M
16 million? You must be the oldest person alive.
🤣🤣 but thats 16 male.
I'm really hoping you are a troll or maybe you are younger and don't understand the breadth of a hobby (or job to some) like this. You should know every hobby has levels to it. Your 3 dollar violin lessons may be great for a beginner but you should exhaust that pretty quickly and intermediate lessons are not going to be 3 dollars. A violin is like a tool, there are beginners tools, tools that promise you the world and deliver nothing, tools for regular folk, tools for professionals and tools that will enable you to create exquisite work unique to the entire world. There are some things you just can't do on a 75 dollar violin that you would want a 25000 USD violin for. These people aren't throwing around money for no reason, the violin is an investment in their play and craft.
I 100% agree on a side note, why do violins, and I suppose a lot of stringed instruments in general, cost so much more than pretty much any other instrument? like, I mainly play saxophone, and a good intermediate horn is typically around one to two thousand usd, whereas it'd be quadruple that for a similar quality violin, from what I understand. like, the fanciest, world class grand pianos are a fraction of how much the most expensive violins sell for, which is just bonkers to me. my best guess is that violins aren't one that you can really mass produce, and so a lot of manual work is required to get the correct shaping, glueing, and whatever else goes into a violin, where's with most other instruments it's a lot easier to just make a machine do it, at least in part. so it's not really the parts your paying for, or even the quality of the instrument (which is probably the biggest factor with saxophones), but the craftsmanship of the person who made the instrument? I may be completely wrong here, but it's been something that I've been curious about for a bit, but haven't really seen a direct answer to (realizing now that I could just search it up, but I already typed this comment, plus it does make for interesting discussion). most people here probably play stringed instruments and know better than I (I just play woodwinds and piano) so I'm curious to hear others thoughts on it
A good student bassoon appropriate for entering university costs $10,000USD new (Fox 240). A new professional bassoon costs $70,000 presently with a 17 year waitlist (Heckel).
If this was really as clear cut as you make it to be 3/4 of the world wouldn't have professional musicians. Yes 72 is not a lot for an instrument generally, but you don't really need 25000 even as a pro. People have been making great music with a lot less. People that can afford it, buy luxury level stuff, it always been the case; some don't, and the difference in the end result is not as big as one would think.
I never said you do. I listed the professional level instrument for a reason, a 25k violin is a professional's instrument but it's not needed for every professional. Trying to say that's what I want is very much misinterpreting my words. I literally called a 25k violin an investment.
yes, but u see, even by those standards, I bet they dont charge 3 USD an hour even on ur first 2 weeks of class. Yes, these are intermediate classes, but even the proffesional classes would not be more than 1000 rupees per hour or 12 dollars an hour which, according to moast ppl here is a steal. and yes, ofc u get wt u pay for but, we must consider that, no mattar how much one can deny it, its pretty cheap in here.
You are comparing prices in countries with vastly different costs of living.
Ik ik, but i was just putting in how much surprised I was to see the cost of music in other countries and was just sharing something because there are not many of us in my country. isnt it what this is all abt? Knowing more abt our vast community all over the world and sharing our experience relevent to topic??
I'd be interested to see if compared to the average annual income, as i would bet that it is much closer in that regard
In the US, an average violin teacher can charge $70 an hour or more. Also true that as a professional violinist, my violin is worth more than my car.
Also a pro and same. My viola would be a very nice luxury car, and my bows would each be a respectable daily driver 😅
Haha that's the next level up from me
The cost of living in India is 82% lower on average than in the United States (this is not shade, it's based on statistical fact,) so it's not really fair to directly compare costs of lessons.
it most certainly is!
Not really, no.
What you’re saying makes no sense. Surely the downvotes must have tipped you off. Please educate yourself on how cost of living factors into these things.
u/Shresth_Shrotriya it literally is not lmao, I'm Indian as well, I live in the US, it is not lil bro, different places around the world cost different amounts of money to live in. $60/hr is considered average here, which is what I pay for my violin lessons. India is comparatively so much cheaper than the U.S. in every aspect possible. So, what the guy's saying is right, it's not fair to compare the price of a class in India to the price of a class in the U.S. as there are various other aspects to consider. You don't understand the basic concept of income differentiation in countries. The salary you get from a job in India will be much different than the salary you get in the U.S., and the stuff you pay for will be priced differently in India than in the U.S.. Plus, don't take this to offense, but a lot more people in other places are more educated on this Western violin style whereas in India, more people focus on the Indian style (Carnatic). So, chances are, there could also be less demand in India for people to learn Western violin from a teacher than learning Indian violin. Therefore, Western violin teachers in India might be more inclined to lower their prices in order to attract more customers. It's the basic supply & demand curve. Oh also, one more thing, no matter where the violin originates from, whatever imported from Australia etc etc, a $75 violin is not going to sound very good at all.
no no no! I think u guys got it wrong!! I meant it most certainly is not fair to compare rates in other countries. I was just saying abt how music costs less in here. Did u guys think I said its ok to do so?? My bad. I know a little bit abt the world and know that that sentence is right!
Music pedagogy student here. Obviously country and average income plays big part here but personally I wouldn't take students cheaper than 40€/hour. Over 20% VAT doesn't help either.
Of cource! our country has alot of ppl, and recources have never been more so......
Some of us charge far more than that! Growing up I paid probably $40/hr average for lessons, and now I charge double that. So just remember it goes both ways - low cost lessons means worse teacher wages and living conditions.
my teacher teaches at a school, (he was comfortable to only share that much) and takes classes for all other kids in the evenings, and does not have to pay to rent a place, because he has a pretty spacious house. I think thats y he does not have to charge much.
So you can hear you’re describing someone who’s needing to work 50 hrs a week or more? That’s not very humane. But even with all of that is the amount he charges an actual living wage? Can someone with that wage visit a doctor or afford to be sick? Your sticker shock about lessons seems to include shock that a teacher would be able to live off the wages comfortably or as a primary job. Your area not valuing or paying well for music isn’t a flex.
U think I intended it to be a flex? Well then u r wrong. Because it is definitely not.
That is definitely how what you wrote reads, yes. You shouldn’t be so shocked that in other places, music can be a whole career rather than something you do after work.
Ppl don't like being low paid but don't want to pay others a fair rate 😕
thats not true for everyone, i did not tell my teacher that I would pay that much, he told me that and i agreed, i would have paid much more had he asked.
Looks as if it's more of a hobby for him than a livelihood. Enjoy your lessons!
More like a dollar per minute average.
Your teacher probably thinks you’ll give up on violin lessons and that’s why you won’t need to upgrade it within the next 8 years.
lol, but i wont quit violin till the end of my life, I know thats wt they all say but, i have a diffrent story and don't think i will give up on this skill that I am trying to develop.
Back before a bunch of complications with my life I was willingly and happily paying a hundred dollars a session with a really high quality teacher.
> 250 rupees per hour which is currently only 3 US dollars! Fantastic and how many hours of wages is that
This is the answer. Even if you easily make that much money, it's the average wages in the area that will help to set the prices. OP seems to be 12 years old, I think.
My teacher is 65 canadian $ an hour and people are saying its rlly good and pretty cheap😭. My student level viola also cost me 1600$. To be fair my luthier takes it back at 70% of the cost so that pretty good.
I pay 100 CHF per hour and that is with a discount. Switzerland is pricey, and I am ok to pay good money for a service I value. I take weekly individual singing classes from a vocal coach, mostly over Skype, sometimes in person. withut the discount she charges 150 CHF and that. is totally expected here. Edit: I am an adult, and have been taking lessons for three years now. Before that I have only been singing in amateur choirs. I can afford it.
I took violin lessons at a music center and it was something like $30 for an hour, twice a week.
whoa......
Georgia, USA I was paying $100 a month for 1/2 hour private viola lessons but I just started. Scales, Suzuki Book 1, basics with the teacher playing piano and correcting me when needed. Some months it is 4 lessons, some are 5, and some are 3 if I cancel. Most lessons are closer to 40 minutes.
Like everyone else has said, it definitely varies by country..also, since you've only just started, it's normal for things to cost less. Everyone wants different results from their music, and prices change based on what you want to get out of it. Personally, my viola lessons are 92.5 usd for 45 minutes, it's just what you have to pay for professionals who are highly qualified in their fields to teach you. You're not just paying for their time and teaching, their price also include all the effort they spent getting to where they are, like their experiences and educations.
I completely agree with you.
Okay question, what is the minimum wage in India?
I'm so glad that in Czech art education is considered part of educational system and is mostly paid by state. I'm paying for my son's musical education in total equivalent of 110 USD per semester, that includes werkly violin lesson, weekly musical theory lesson and rent of size appropriate violin. That means I don't have to buy quarter and half size violin my son used. As he will grow older he will have more lessons per week and school orchestra lessons.
It is lovely that your son can take orchestra in school. It was part of my school, as well, in the US…way back in the 70’s. Absolute shame that it is not a part of many curricula now. I remember when my parents bought my first full-sized violin to get out of rentals. Was so excited. I did not start taking lessons until high school. I played in a very large youth symphony and wanted to just keep up. But the school music program got me there. I play regularly now, and that fiddle my parents bought me? They paid a couple of hundred wayback when. Still my favorite.
I'm a newew piano teacher in the Caribbean. I charge $12.83 USD an hour in my currency. It's a good competitive price for my level of experience. In comparison, I was paying my piano teacher $45 USD for a two hour class (ao $22.5 per hour) - and he has way more experience than I do
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my teacher teaches at a school, (he was comfortable to only share that much) and takes classes for all other kids in the evenings, and does not have to pay to rent a place to teach, because he has a pretty spacious house. I think thats y he does not have to charge much. and also, 3 dollars is enough here to get 5 liters of milk which is 1.32 gallons.
i swear i need to move back to india im paying 33 dollars per lesson 😭
at least where i live in the US, for piano average cost of lessons is like $70-80. even the local lessons can go up to like $90/ hour. mine cost $100 per hour help 😭😭. i used to get voice lessons online from india and they were rlly cheap
My violin is worth more than my car….. mainly cause I don’t have a car XD When I get my masters I’m debating If I should get a new violin or a new watch…. But yes, music in Europe is super expensive My current instrument cost 780 euros when I bought it 14 years ago in 7th grade and it’s not a particularly good one (though I got a decent sound out by investing a few dozen hours into finding the perfect bridge position) It had a full makeover 3 years ago and every year I pay about 230€ for a set of new strings and a rehair if my bow I think my lessons were 65€/h
I pay 30 USD per half hour lesson. I also charge 30 USD for a half hour lesson. This seems to be the going rate, unless you're like a symphony player or something (which I am not and my kids teachers aren't either)
You can buy a violin for that price in most countries, just not something for the long run, It's either a good 8 years reliable violin OR a $72USD one, not both. Keep in mind, you said It yourself that you don't know if your teacher is being honest. It's very unlikely that a $72 instrument imported from Australia is a quality violin that'll last 8 years without holding you back. How much do you think that same instrument sells for in Australia before the extra cost of shipping It to India + your teacher's profit!? It's a beginner's violin, which doesn't mean it's not going to be a nice one to start with. It's just not something suitable for almost a decade of playing. Edit: wording
Maybe you are right.
Opera singer in NYC paying about $200 an hour.
I used to pay 2500 rs (around 30$) per month for 8 1.5hour classes which seems insanely cheap after looking at these comments.
Exactly my point!
It depends on the country, cost of living, experience and reputation of the teacher, etc. A top teacher for advanced students in some parts of the USA can easily cost over $300/ hour.
Yes, us Swedes pay like 1500 kronor (140£) for a full term - about 20 lessons, each 20 minutes long.
Lol, in Argentina the average rate is ~20usd, and that is plenty
Yeah! Here in India, It is very cheap.
I don’t play a string instrument, I’m percussion, but I pay 50 dollars an hour.
I’m in London and pay £75-90 per hour depending on the teacher (professional voice and piano/organ)
I pay 15$/hour. I think it's worht it tho.
Honestly, when I found out how expensive music lessons are, I was absolutely SHOOK. The first professional piano lessons I got were from a doctor of music who was the head of the music department at my local college. I was a teenager, but I did it as dual credit through the college, and the fee for a 16 week semester of hour-long weekly lessons was literally 200-ish dollars.
👀 one of my teachers charges like $80 an hour 👀
Oh dang. In the mid 2000s I was paying $30 for a half hour.
Idk but last night I had a nightmare that someone stole my violin
Well, violins can be as cheap as possible but the Quality would be in a whole new level, and the teacher pay, I thought $80 is average per hour!
I pay $145/hr for cello lessons, in NYC but doing it on Zoom to west coast.
I went from $25 per lesson to $80 per lesson. The more expensive instructor pushed me a lot harder than the initial instructor. Strict af, but thanks for the lessons
wtf my violin lessons are $90/hour The cheapest lesson I've taken was $75/hour
here in aus average is 60+ a lesson
I live in the US in the Midwest and I teach private violin lessons. I teach 30 minute lessons for kiddos all ages, and some even adults. I get paid $10/lesson.
my piano teacher charges $100/hr and its considered normal where i live
Won't have to get a new violin for 8 years? Violins last longer than 8 years geeeeenerally lol
I mean, at any rate, it is a beginner violin and he said so in comparison to an even cheaper violin, which is definitely not worth it.
My teacher is 90$ per hour
Remember, USD has a much higher value in india than it does in america. I pay $40 an hour and thats considered super cheap.
Can I learn online through your teacher? :D I began self taught 3 weeks ago but have only played for the first week really, I can play well but I stopped because I NEED a job to afford lessons as $45 per half hour is the usual here. So I am trying to learn skills to get a job instead.
I understand your confusion, its important to know you cannot just compare the flat price in dollar amount of different countries, because the buying power of that money varies locally too. In usa lets say average lesson is 22usd, the average hourly income is 28usd. In india you say your lessons are 250rupees , average hourly pay in india on a quick google search is about 180rupees. When you compare it this way the india lesson actually costs more. Those numbers may not be accurate but you get the idea. As for the violin, the price will also vary wildly. Nothing wrong with a cheaper violin for casual hobby or just starting out-- the crazy expensive ones are concert grades. Just another quick google, saw a basic concert grade violin in india costs about 50,000rupee. So again it is not exactly the same prices, but its not the crazy difference you describe (◐‿◑)
my cello lessons are 75 usd per hour, and i know some people in my orchestra whose lessons are 250 usd per session 🫠
25/hour for piano lessons (in Spain)
That's because the cost of labour is low. How much does a person working the till at McDonalds earn where you live? In Australia a 20 yr old would earn approx $17.84 USD per hour. Makes sense that a music teacher would charge more than that.
My teacher is 450 rmb which is abt 66usd
I attend music lessons through school and are 50% off and mine are £70 per term for 20 mins a week
I think people in the U.S. have to keep in mind that lessons hourly rate varies by state and city so comparing across the country makes no sense and in Europe it varies across countries. There are so many factors that make up that cost. One ex: is I thought English in Spain and the cost varied by teacher regardless of location. I charged a decent amount like €15 and up depending on what was required of me to do. Every teacher is different they each have their own reasons for the rate they charge. So all in all this person will finally find the same thing happen as they switch teachers well if they do.
almost as if things in different countries are priced differently because people don't earn the same no way
It really varies by country. My harp lessons in Ireland are €65/h but I'm focusing more on trad music (lever harp is enough for that). It's a very expensive country to live! Maybe in India everything is cheaper. 🤷♀️
I have a friend who wants to join taekwondo with me but because of her violin classes she can’t. They cost like, 300$ a month and her class takes place at like 8:30 pm on a SCHOOL NIGHT. So taekwondo is out of their budget and they don’t have time. I still don’t understand what is so good about those classes but at least she’s good at playing the violin?
Oh and it’s once a week plus only an hour long so…$75 an hour?? Idk but the pricing is crazy. I had violin lessons too at one point but I had them from India and it was online(yea idk how or why that worked) but yeah you get the point
I pay USD 50 and hour in Australia.
I pay 30dollars. And that is veeeryyyy cheap.
This will vastly vary on where you like be. I paid 60 euro for 45 minutes, this is Germany. It is super expensive, as much st things.
I used to pay around $72/hr back in 2018,,
Two year warranty on...strings? So they replace the strings for you for free for 2 years?
yes
Private lessons last taken in the late 80's. My parents paid $75 a month for once a week hour long lessons. Yes my two violins are worth more than my life. My biggest question.... How did you manage to get a two year warranty on STRINGS?!
he gave them to me. my teacher. did not ask for it either.
Lol I pay 35€ for half year that's like 1,50€ for one lesson
I'm paying 50/h
I pay $80 per 50 minutes
I've never heard of any music teacher charging $22 per hour. I and most other teachers I know charge upwards of $60 an hour. You can't compare the Indian economy to U.S. economy really, but it sounds like your teacher is charging way too little. Probably because a) he doesn't need the money, b) he just enjoys teaching, c) he might be still charging you the rate from 50 years ago or something. We music teachers are notorious for not raising our rates as regularly as inflation raises the cost of living...
It may be cheap in USD, but what is the average income in USD in India? It's 400 USD. I bring home 2000 USD a month, that 20 bucks is a drop of water, and only slightly more percent of my income than an Indian teacher is to the average Indian income.
? Most instrument lessons in the phillippines are prob 10-15 usd
I've got 10 years of essential musical education as a kid (violin, piano, musical theory, music history, orchestra, choir) in Ukraine completely for free because I'm from a family with 3+ kids. My friends from smaller families paid around 2-10 USD per month for the same education. We only had to buy or rent our instruments, and that's it. I guess I have to consider myself lucky
The prices of violins, cellos, violas, and basses are dependent upon their age/quality. The older a violin is, the ‘finer’ the wood quality is, which increases the instrument’s value. I wouldn’t pay less than $500,000 USD for a violin if I were to pursue a professional career. I would be willing to pay in the millions for the right violin.
Good heavens, I paid $75 an hour in the 90s. I was a performance major though