As an Nvidia user, at this point I'm willing to buy a secondary monitor with matching refresh rate if it means a smoother dual monitor experience with X11 while I can't use Wayland just yet.
I had a bit of an issue with this, but I ended up getting it fixed on nixos, although im not entirely sure why what I did fixed it, but its definitely working and my screentearing is gone. Like, gone gone. And its on nixos so its NEVER coming back (assuming I stay on i3 on this computer of course, I dont know if it works on wayland, havent tried).
Fair warning, if you go with the newest hardware, you’re likely to have issues. It takes a few month for new hardware to get configured into the drivers. I would recommend getting a recently ( within the last 12 month) new card. If they just came out they might not, and generally don’t, have the drivers in the system yet
Yes, but they're often not perfect right at the launch of the first cards of a new generation. Hell, even the windows drivers have some bugs on day 1.
12 months is excessively cautious though. It doesn't take that long to iron out major bugs. (With some exceptions -- the 5700 was still having weird problems in 2020. The 5700 was cursed hardware though.)
Maybe if you're on a stable distro and you are running 6+ month old LTS kernel revs, you have to wait that long. But if you're doing linux gaming it really helps to use something that moves a bit faster than Ubuntu.
No it’s not, what I clearly state is to not wait for the newest hardware, get something that is out already, within the last year. In no way or form am I saying the OP or others have to wait a year for the software drivers to update.
Where as with a brand new piece of hardware, like the gpu it could be a a few WEEKS to be properly working. Learn to comprehend sentences please.
Explicit sync for Nvidia Wayland should be avalible very soon! It's been merged in [XWayland](https://www.phoronix.com/news/Explicit-GPU-Sync-XWayland-Go) and [Mesa](https://www.phoronix.com/news/Mesa-24.1-Vulkan-Wayland-Exp). Along with GNOME's [Mutter](https://www.phoronix.com/news/GNOME-Linux-DRM-Sync-Obj-v1). KDE's [Kwin](https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/merge_requests/4693) was merged 2 weeks ago. Currently waiting for the next Nvidia binary release to leverage this. This has all been in the last month. More is on the way!
In the later year releases from a Distro near you, using the greatly improved open source NVK driver will be enabled by default with Mesa 24.1. In December they were getting 40-60% of the performance from the proprietary driver in games and they have merged A LOT more performance improvements since then. Ditching the proprietary Nvidia driver on 20-series and newer will soon become truly viable (if you don't leverage RT/DLSS/CUDA in your workloads).
Nvidia on wayland is pretty much 50/50 as they only recently seem to have embraced it (last time I tried it nvidia config only worked for x11 but now it also somewhat works for wayland).
Give it a few years and hopefully it'll be as rock solid as it is on x11.
There's a lot of edge cases with Nvidia drivers still (+ DE issues with said Nvidia driver), just a personal one is on Fedora 39 if I put it to sleep it'll blackscreen with the only option being to kill wayland.
You really should learn to only speak for yourself, r/linux has 1.2 million members, they can speak for themselves, they don't need you to speak for them. Also for "not caring" so much, you cared enough to leave 3 comments about it.
The only thing you're a professional about, is being a professional douche. Grow up, because the only thing you're doing is making 1.2 million members look bad by your behavior.
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As an Nvidia user, at this point I'm willing to buy a secondary monitor with matching refresh rate if it means a smoother dual monitor experience with X11 while I can't use Wayland just yet.
I had a bit of an issue with this, but I ended up getting it fixed on nixos, although im not entirely sure why what I did fixed it, but its definitely working and my screentearing is gone. Like, gone gone. And its on nixos so its NEVER coming back (assuming I stay on i3 on this computer of course, I dont know if it works on wayland, havent tried).
It might make more sense to sell your card and put that money toward a new AMD card
That's a second plan, but I was gonna wait for a new Radeon series to come out
Fair warning, if you go with the newest hardware, you’re likely to have issues. It takes a few month for new hardware to get configured into the drivers. I would recommend getting a recently ( within the last 12 month) new card. If they just came out they might not, and generally don’t, have the drivers in the system yet
I thought it took like a week or two for stuff to be added into the kernel, I also thought AMD adds stuff to the kernel before launch, don't they?
Yes, but they're often not perfect right at the launch of the first cards of a new generation. Hell, even the windows drivers have some bugs on day 1. 12 months is excessively cautious though. It doesn't take that long to iron out major bugs. (With some exceptions -- the 5700 was still having weird problems in 2020. The 5700 was cursed hardware though.) Maybe if you're on a stable distro and you are running 6+ month old LTS kernel revs, you have to wait that long. But if you're doing linux gaming it really helps to use something that moves a bit faster than Ubuntu.
You misunderstood my comment on the 12 months. I was saying getting a new card that came out in the last 12 months, not wait that long.
That is the same thing but with a shifted perspective
No it’s not, what I clearly state is to not wait for the newest hardware, get something that is out already, within the last year. In no way or form am I saying the OP or others have to wait a year for the software drivers to update. Where as with a brand new piece of hardware, like the gpu it could be a a few WEEKS to be properly working. Learn to comprehend sentences please.
just buy a larger 16:9 monitor eg 32inchs and use a tiling window manager. Or get a extra wide monitor much simpler on NVidia.
Explicit sync for Nvidia Wayland should be avalible very soon! It's been merged in [XWayland](https://www.phoronix.com/news/Explicit-GPU-Sync-XWayland-Go) and [Mesa](https://www.phoronix.com/news/Mesa-24.1-Vulkan-Wayland-Exp). Along with GNOME's [Mutter](https://www.phoronix.com/news/GNOME-Linux-DRM-Sync-Obj-v1). KDE's [Kwin](https://invent.kde.org/plasma/kwin/-/merge_requests/4693) was merged 2 weeks ago. Currently waiting for the next Nvidia binary release to leverage this. This has all been in the last month. More is on the way! In the later year releases from a Distro near you, using the greatly improved open source NVK driver will be enabled by default with Mesa 24.1. In December they were getting 40-60% of the performance from the proprietary driver in games and they have merged A LOT more performance improvements since then. Ditching the proprietary Nvidia driver on 20-series and newer will soon become truly viable (if you don't leverage RT/DLSS/CUDA in your workloads).
> the experience is actually best with X11 Har har har. So much for Wayland being an "improvement" over Xorg.
Don’t blame Wayland for NVIDIA issues. I used Wayland for years with AMD card, after I switched to NVIDIA I have to use X11 again.
Nvidia on wayland is pretty much 50/50 as they only recently seem to have embraced it (last time I tried it nvidia config only worked for x11 but now it also somewhat works for wayland). Give it a few years and hopefully it'll be as rock solid as it is on x11.
Why "few years" when the most important issue (lack of explicit sync) will be fixed soon?
There's a lot of edge cases with Nvidia drivers still (+ DE issues with said Nvidia driver), just a personal one is on Fedora 39 if I put it to sleep it'll blackscreen with the only option being to kill wayland.
That seems more like local issues, for example on my computer nothing like this happens, sleep works as expected.
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I assume a vote was held for you speaking for everyone?
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Shining example of the Linux community right here. EDIT: blocking me was a nice touch. Grow up.
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You really should learn to only speak for yourself, r/linux has 1.2 million members, they can speak for themselves, they don't need you to speak for them. Also for "not caring" so much, you cared enough to leave 3 comments about it. The only thing you're a professional about, is being a professional douche. Grow up, because the only thing you're doing is making 1.2 million members look bad by your behavior.
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