Nope. This is 100% not the reason. You think Lyft gives a fuck about your tipper’s remorse? Tell me another joke. It’s to keep them out of money laundering.
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Absolutely, I totally agree and the $23.98 that is not the max you can tip it’s just the max for that ride because that is 200% the max you can tip in the Lyft app is $50. The reason why her $23.98 because her ride was probably only, seven dollars and some change almost 8 dollars
That’s still unamerican as it gets. Lyft driver is legally a self employed person. May even have an llc. Legally speaking the lyft driver IS the company not lyft. If you we’re to get into a wreck you sue the driver not lyft so what I’m getting at is this is basically like some random person patrolling a restaurant and saying you can’t tip your waiter such and such. It’s shitty for corporations to say you can’t accept tips but they are giving you a w2 not a 1099
Maybe my analogy wasn’t the best… maybe this one is better. This is literally like me installing carpet for a landlord I do contracts with. The landlord/lyft calls me and says hey 750$ to install carpet at 123 street place today for my new tenants. I install the carpet and the new renters love the carpet so much they write me a check for 100$ and the landlord tells his renters they can’t do that. 😐
Trust me i get it lol and i got the analogy they’re going to take away from you, but if you gotten an accident, it’s not gonna be on them like you said you’re working pretty much for yourself
No that is what I’m saying. If I was still doing rideshare I would 100% be operating under an LLC. At that point legally speaking. Lyft didn’t give you a ride nor did I john smith. But actually you we’re given a ride by “john smith enterprises llc” so when you get into an accident and decide to sue… you can’t sue me john smith you have to sue my company and this protects me from you taking everything I have in court… now applying this to tipping is what irks me. Ive worked many jobs that relied solely on tips… so on what legal ground does lyft have to put a cap on tipping?
This is a random thought but I would bet Lyft does this for a couple of odd reasons:
1. Prevent the illegal sale of things while in a Lyft (get a bj and a ride, or some snow and a ride, whatever). A $5 ride with a 200%+ tip usually sends alarms.
2. Prevent accidental user over tipping. Think drunks fat fingering and then the endless arguments with customer service.
I would bet this kind of stuff would be Lyfts argument for limiting that functionality. I’m in no way defending it, but devils advocate can sometimes shine a little light.
The real reason is probably along the lines of control. Control the money, the drivers, mitigate risk, and destroy problems.
I think it’s worth mentioning that most riders are aware of this though.. I didn’t even know the apps capped tipping. But I had plenty of customers tip me cash or cash app. I had a few even exchange numbers so I could cut the middle man out.
I assume op is trying to tip after the fact which sucks. But from my experience most of my tips came within the car.
I feel ya man forsure it’s very sick and that’s what keeps the rich companies rich how they somehow just skate past all these laws and normalities that the normal small business has to deal with
I'm sure they do it because they're sick of panicked messages from people who were drunk and over-tipped. As far as whether it's legal, it's their app. The app is a service. They set the terms and that's legal as long as they don't lie or discriminate. They don't have to provide the ability to tip, or even to pay electronically. They owe us nothing, and we owe them nothing. We chose to use the service on their terms. Because rideshare drivers to not work hourly, they do not have a consistent wage to say "that's below minimum wage and must be increased or supplemented with tipping." There's no real argument to be had here. They're not stopping tipping. Just making it so that you need cash if you really want to go wild. Given how rarely people want to do that, I don't think it's a problem. If OP really wanted to do the driver a solid, they could ask if the driver has venmo or an email address they could PayPal some money to. I think you can even send PayPal money to a phone number, as you can log in via phone number.
If they tried to prevent tipping entirely outside of the app, THEN we'd have an issue where they're actually unfairly preventing tipping.
While rideshare drivers are technically independent contractors and they do have to carry commercial insurance in their own name, last I checked (I drove for them for years) Lyft also provided additional insurance while a passenger was in the vehicle. If I had an LLC while I was driving, I didn't know about it, no one told me about it, and the name of it never appeared on any paperwork. Most self-employed people as far as I know still file taxes under their own name, not a business name. I certainly was never advised to do otherwise.
All to say I believe the situation is not black and white, and it's mostly a bummer for the driver, but it's one they're gonna live with because they're still able to make a living working for themselves, doing something kinda chill. But yeah big tippers should just carry cash in general because that's the only way you really have a good hope of the person keeping all of it without being forced to share or let a credit card company take a cut.
It’s because like 99% of the time someone leaves a crazy generous tip like this way above bill price, it’s a stolen credit card. People in restaurants will tell you this.
Might be onto something here, it might be to prevent fraud. Not likely that someone with a stolen credit card would want to give an honest driver a bunch of money for free, but if the driver is in cahoots with them, I could see them doing a tip 100, give me back 80 kinda thing.
I also think this prevents drivers from “holding people hostage” by not driving them to where they need to go if they don’t tip a bunch.
I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. I’ve only had one person try to tip over the max in nearly 1500 rides. It’s not common enough to warrant a change
Actually I disagree here honestly. Apps like venmo cashapp have limits for obvious reasons and when it comes to financial institutions they can say how they want the money to be handled. A bank can decline transactions all day long if they don’t like gambling and you try swiping at a casino. Maybe your bank doesn’t like crypto and declines crypto.com transactions etc.
Right like atm limits for a reason, however the apps do it because they want us out working. With the amount of data they have on the drivers and riders... It's how they get certain riders to pay more every time they open the app and some pay less, they track your habits and take advantage...
No, you sue Lyft or Uber. I just did, and won a settlement. That's why they have insurance plans. If it EXCEEDS a 1m/2m limit, then you can sue the driver... But at that point... Why?
Yes to almost everything, but Lyft is always listed as a codefendant and often has to pay more than half, sometimes all of any damages awarded. Source: I’m an auto liability PI
When I was driving for Lyft you literally couldn’t tip ANYTHING in the app. I drove this pilot who made a lot of money and was moving to Hawaii he thought he could tip in the app and he was so sad he couldn’t tip he asked for my PayPal. I didn’t end up giving it to him because I had to drop off fast at the airport but I’m sure he learned that lesson and so did I.
They dont want you to spoil the driver. It will be hard for them to control the driver with the minimum wage. They need them for more hours rather than making them call for the day.
When I used to work with a bunch of top executives they chanted the phrase “you’ve got to keep them hungry.” When I asked what that meant they said that the only way to get more work out of the working class was to pay them barely enough to survive. The idea is the hungrier you are, the harder you work.
Then again hungry employees do other things like steal, or they show up and do the absolute bear minimum. So the execs are actually wrong.
Look at Wawa. Very successful company, and they treat their employees good.
>Very successful company, and they treat their employees good
Uhh have you worked there? It's pretty much just a weird cult lol. And they really don't pay that great unless you are a AGM+
Your situation is different. What you have is an authorization hold that takes place before the charge goes through. The CC company allows a tip over a certain percentage of that authorization without a new authorization being run. If Lyft was under that restriction then rides that went way longer would get kicked back because they would go over the threshold. Lyft can charge a card whenever they want, as long as their system runs a new authorization. They are doing this themselves because they want to limit our income. They just like most executives believe in the idea of “you’ve got to keep them hungry.” Meaning, they believe that if we make too much money we won’t work hard enough.
Another issue is chargebacks. I’m sure there have been drunk people who entered one too many zeros when tipping then filed a fraudulent chargeback the next day. Even though such a chargeback wouldn’t be valid, it still impacts their chargeback rate with their processor. If this rate goes too high, the company can permanently lose credit card access, which would result in them going out of business immediately. Seeing how both Uber and Lyft have a reputation for fraudulently charging people or people stealing peoples rides, they probably get a lot of chargebacks. I wouldn’t be surprised if they got a warning letter at some point. Credit card processing companies don’t play around, and they don’t care how big your company is either. Once a company is added to the MATCH and TMF lists it’s game over. No processor will contract with them.
I know this because I did software design years ago for a payment processor.
Probably exactly this reason...chargebacks or disputes.
If the rider tips $100 or even $1000...then later disputes the charge. The rider is 50/50 or more off the hook, the driver already has the tip and Lyft is left holding the bag.
So to prevent possible scams or Lyft not profiting on a ride - cap tips.
They cap charges as well. 300 bucks for lyft. So longer rides won't pay out, if.a person is desperate they might tip you 100% of a 200 dollar trip but aren't allowed to...
If you want to give a larger tip than the app allows, talk to the driver, let them know you want to give them a tip that is larger than the app allows and ask if they would accept CashApp or Venmo.
Because you can only tip up to 200% of the ride im sure you ride cost was almost 8$ thats why it said 23.98 was the max and as of recently the tip an not exceed 50$ my advice is either Carry cash or if you know you’re gonna tip them that much ask for their Venmo cash app it’s sad how they put a limit on how much you can tip. Hope that helps.
If you specify that it is a personal gift it is non taxable. Do you understand the English language? Like just basic understanding? I know this is reddit and the 2nd biggest collection of ignorance on the internet behind facebook.. but come on dude..
That is not how it works. You cant just give strangers tips and say its a gift. Do you think you declare bankruptcy by actual declaring your bankrupt? What you are describing is tax evasion my dude.
You honestly think that that non government agency that collects and distributes taxes is gonna track down a cab driver or a waiter over $100 personal gift they received from a client 🤔 🙄 shit you may be right.. for the record you can accept $18,000 in personal gifts from a single person before you have to claim it. I guess I should tell the girl that cuts my hair she needs to claim those gifts I gave her or the IRS is gonna come shoot her dog.
No, it’s actually 200% or $50 tops you can look it up , on lyft website it shows you for example if you had an eight dollar ride you could tip them $24 (200% but if you had a $50 ride the max you could only tip them is $50. You cannot tip them 200%.
This was my guess.
Drunk people forget that they need the money in their account, tip driver a lot, wake up next morning to check their account to see 50+ dollars spent on just a tip alone, call Lyft in a fuss, and repeat with a hundred other people.
Easier to just set it at 200% and no more than a certain amount so you don't have to deal with all that shit.
At least Lyft is honest about it, Uber on the other hand, will act like everything is OK, yet if you go to the trip history later, there will be no tip shown at all, and if you try again, the app will again let you "tip" then agin it will just dissappear. You think you tipped $100 while you didn't tip at all. (Because who checks the trip details the next day)
Thank you for being awesome and trying!
To the drivers here seeing this post. The solution in my opinion is place a QR code to cash app quick pay or w/e other options are available to you and passengers and Write “Direct Tips are very Appreciated” thank you! That way you can also work around these companies don’t let these companies dictate and treat you like less than what you’re worth if somebody is being generous and wants to tip you $50,$100,or even $500 you’re already ready and don’t have to get ready! If you know you know!
Lift does this because most people who would tip this amount would be doing it by accident, or in unlikely scenarios be used for some form of money laundering/fraud.
How many people are actually tipping more than 200% of the ride or whatever the cap is?
The answer is almost zero. I’d imagine a lot of the posts here are people trying to get attention too
“Look at me, I’m so generous I was gonna tip $100 for this 2 mile ride, but Lyft told me no!“
Then in reality they delete the $100 they typed and then tip $5 or something.
I get tipped 200% routinely damn u don’t only accidentally. That sucks. Try and relate with them a little more. It can be dangerous cuz people r evil but it pays very well. Plus im a decent human being i spent time with a passenger that was saying they wanted to kill themselves let them use my vape. Went offline. Helped them buy a plane ticket. But my brother killed himself and know how hard it is for the survivors. Not to toot my own horn but I have cash app but not Venmo or Zelle and it’s getting annoying the they can’t tip what they want. Like company paid rides that’s retarded that they have that feature they use their own account but can’t tip. That’s madness.
Due to credit card fraud prevention, credit card companies have limited tips to the amount of the original transaction. This applies to restaurants, ride sharing, and anything else you use your credit card to pay
Maybe to avoid processing payment of anything else except the ride, like a ride in the back seat, lawn mowing etc. It just puts Lyft and/or the payment processor in a difficult position.
This is probably to prevent money laundering. What would stop someone from getting a ride from an accomplice using a stolen credit card and tipping their buddy $10,000 which could be almost immediately converted to cash when the driver is paid out? I'd think it would be pretty difficult to recover those funds from a contractor and Lyft would probably end up holding the bag. Yes, everyone involved would likely be banned, but the damage would already be done.
What happens at times is:
1. A drunk keys in a big fat tip. He wakes up the next morning and repents of it. This helps avoid that.
2. The customer accidentally hits a key twice and it adds an extra figure. The customer does not realise it until he sees the bill.
These are not necessarily the only possibilities.
It’s the laziest way of dealing with people getting there accounts hacked and people draining it with a Lyft scam and tipping really high. Also they no longer have to deal with drunk people complaining they tipped too much after sobering up. It’s total BS though! I’ve had people get out ant go to an ATM because they were so pissed they could only tip like $20. It’s cruel it makes no sense and ridiculous to control tips in this manner.
Wow Lyft sucks, if you were really gonna drop them a hundred bucks I'm sure you would've made their day.
Good to know for anyone potentially interested in driving for Lyft that even if someone wanted to be particularly generous with an act of kindness like that, they won't let it happen. Shameful imo.
Most people celebrate using visas or Google wallet and Apple pay, I mourn the death of cash. We are slowly losing a portion of freedom for some temporary convenience.
Seee now if a driver had a little sign that said "if the app won't let you tip more and you feel so inclined here's my cashtag etc." That's not the same as trying to guilt your passengers into tipping you.
If I had to guess I'd guess Drugs. The answer is using Lyft to wash drug money for small time people.
Source: my friends dealer was a bartender and had miraculously good tips
If anybody wants to make my life by tipping a million I've got Cash App, Venmo, PayPal, Zelle, and GPay. Uber doesn't have to get a cut, you can It Could Happen to You me, no problems!
Always carry cash for transportation apps and delivery apps, that way 1 the person doesn't have to declare the tip on their taxes and 2 the app can't steal their tip money, plus you can give them as much tip as you want to.
Just use third party like PayPal , Zelle, or Cashapp or cash to tip. Lyft has a hard limit to make sure the corporate executives get as much money as they can but have to make sure the drivers don't make anymore than what they allow so their ego doesn't get hurt 👍🏽
I think this is due to stolen credit cards as I've had many times in the past rides that were minimum fare (5 mins) to a WaWa or atm and they would say "hey can you do me a favor I'll tip you 60 after the ride if you can stop at a atm just give me 40 back and you keep 20 as the tip" .. and I've done it to, as long as we both get out of the car and I'll split it with them in the store. But these reqeusts were always from the hood "Camden NJ" And I'm willing to bet it's safer because they never have to be on a store camera using the stolen card they can just make a new guest account on lyft or uber with a burner phone and tip drivers largely from the card to keep getting cash off of it. It's slick but could very well be part of the reason why they safeguard tipping any number you want. I had it happen years later and it wouldn't work I told him a 5 min ride isn't gonna let you tip anymore then 10 bucks usually now.
They know drivers work towards dollar amount goals, which is why they don't want us to get paid a lot because they want us working more hours... Beginning to think some the tips that land the next day might be because of that as well...
Real talk they don't want drivers to make good money because in return the probability is the driver doing less rides which equals less money for the company.
I wanna know this too. I tried to give my driver a $40 tip for returning my phone almost immediately and I didn't have to pay the fee for Uber to return it. But it only let me give him $20 I was pissed.
Because if the drivers make too much money too quickly, they might decide to go enjoy themselves instead of staying on the road. And Lyft can’t have that.
They get charged a percentage by the CC company and can not pass that on to the driver. If they did not limit the tip they could end up losing money on the transaction.
So you don’t wake up next morning with a hangover trying to dispute it because “it was an obvious accident”.
This is the reason. Also people sometimes make mistakes on input and it’s bad press
If you want to tip anyone more, just give them cash. Everybody likes this
Nope. This is 100% not the reason. You think Lyft gives a fuck about your tipper’s remorse? Tell me another joke. It’s to keep them out of money laundering.
It's both
Nope. It’s absolutely, 100% not both. It’s solely to protect them legally. I promise you they don’t care about your accidental drunken overtipping.
You mean the answer isn't something to do with late stage capitalism? /s
It has to be late stage capitalism. This would never happen under feudalism
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Lesson learned carry cash then they have no control. You can only tip $23.98 in the app.
Absolutely, I totally agree and the $23.98 that is not the max you can tip it’s just the max for that ride because that is 200% the max you can tip in the Lyft app is $50. The reason why her $23.98 because her ride was probably only, seven dollars and some change almost 8 dollars
That’s still unamerican as it gets. Lyft driver is legally a self employed person. May even have an llc. Legally speaking the lyft driver IS the company not lyft. If you we’re to get into a wreck you sue the driver not lyft so what I’m getting at is this is basically like some random person patrolling a restaurant and saying you can’t tip your waiter such and such. It’s shitty for corporations to say you can’t accept tips but they are giving you a w2 not a 1099 Maybe my analogy wasn’t the best… maybe this one is better. This is literally like me installing carpet for a landlord I do contracts with. The landlord/lyft calls me and says hey 750$ to install carpet at 123 street place today for my new tenants. I install the carpet and the new renters love the carpet so much they write me a check for 100$ and the landlord tells his renters they can’t do that. 😐
Trust me i get it lol and i got the analogy they’re going to take away from you, but if you gotten an accident, it’s not gonna be on them like you said you’re working pretty much for yourself
No that is what I’m saying. If I was still doing rideshare I would 100% be operating under an LLC. At that point legally speaking. Lyft didn’t give you a ride nor did I john smith. But actually you we’re given a ride by “john smith enterprises llc” so when you get into an accident and decide to sue… you can’t sue me john smith you have to sue my company and this protects me from you taking everything I have in court… now applying this to tipping is what irks me. Ive worked many jobs that relied solely on tips… so on what legal ground does lyft have to put a cap on tipping?
This is a random thought but I would bet Lyft does this for a couple of odd reasons: 1. Prevent the illegal sale of things while in a Lyft (get a bj and a ride, or some snow and a ride, whatever). A $5 ride with a 200%+ tip usually sends alarms. 2. Prevent accidental user over tipping. Think drunks fat fingering and then the endless arguments with customer service. I would bet this kind of stuff would be Lyfts argument for limiting that functionality. I’m in no way defending it, but devils advocate can sometimes shine a little light. The real reason is probably along the lines of control. Control the money, the drivers, mitigate risk, and destroy problems.
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I mean it still is an evil company
I think it’s worth mentioning that most riders are aware of this though.. I didn’t even know the apps capped tipping. But I had plenty of customers tip me cash or cash app. I had a few even exchange numbers so I could cut the middle man out. I assume op is trying to tip after the fact which sucks. But from my experience most of my tips came within the car.
Why? Cuz they don't want you making more than they are. Welcome to corporate greed.
I feel ya man forsure it’s very sick and that’s what keeps the rich companies rich how they somehow just skate past all these laws and normalities that the normal small business has to deal with
I'm sure they do it because they're sick of panicked messages from people who were drunk and over-tipped. As far as whether it's legal, it's their app. The app is a service. They set the terms and that's legal as long as they don't lie or discriminate. They don't have to provide the ability to tip, or even to pay electronically. They owe us nothing, and we owe them nothing. We chose to use the service on their terms. Because rideshare drivers to not work hourly, they do not have a consistent wage to say "that's below minimum wage and must be increased or supplemented with tipping." There's no real argument to be had here. They're not stopping tipping. Just making it so that you need cash if you really want to go wild. Given how rarely people want to do that, I don't think it's a problem. If OP really wanted to do the driver a solid, they could ask if the driver has venmo or an email address they could PayPal some money to. I think you can even send PayPal money to a phone number, as you can log in via phone number. If they tried to prevent tipping entirely outside of the app, THEN we'd have an issue where they're actually unfairly preventing tipping. While rideshare drivers are technically independent contractors and they do have to carry commercial insurance in their own name, last I checked (I drove for them for years) Lyft also provided additional insurance while a passenger was in the vehicle. If I had an LLC while I was driving, I didn't know about it, no one told me about it, and the name of it never appeared on any paperwork. Most self-employed people as far as I know still file taxes under their own name, not a business name. I certainly was never advised to do otherwise. All to say I believe the situation is not black and white, and it's mostly a bummer for the driver, but it's one they're gonna live with because they're still able to make a living working for themselves, doing something kinda chill. But yeah big tippers should just carry cash in general because that's the only way you really have a good hope of the person keeping all of it without being forced to share or let a credit card company take a cut.
Lyft doesn’t do business with companies, just individuals.
Now that made my morning! un American! Absolutely. Well written sir . Float on.
It’s because like 99% of the time someone leaves a crazy generous tip like this way above bill price, it’s a stolen credit card. People in restaurants will tell you this.
Might be onto something here, it might be to prevent fraud. Not likely that someone with a stolen credit card would want to give an honest driver a bunch of money for free, but if the driver is in cahoots with them, I could see them doing a tip 100, give me back 80 kinda thing.
I also think this prevents drivers from “holding people hostage” by not driving them to where they need to go if they don’t tip a bunch. I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. I’ve only had one person try to tip over the max in nearly 1500 rides. It’s not common enough to warrant a change
You're welcome to tip, just not via the app. I can't send 5000 via venmo either.
Actually I disagree here honestly. Apps like venmo cashapp have limits for obvious reasons and when it comes to financial institutions they can say how they want the money to be handled. A bank can decline transactions all day long if they don’t like gambling and you try swiping at a casino. Maybe your bank doesn’t like crypto and declines crypto.com transactions etc.
Right like atm limits for a reason, however the apps do it because they want us out working. With the amount of data they have on the drivers and riders... It's how they get certain riders to pay more every time they open the app and some pay less, they track your habits and take advantage...
Using venmo is your problem, cash app lets you send 15k a week.
They probably do that to prevent accidental over tipping that turns into an administration nightmare to rectify
I think they do it so their app can’t be used as a money laundering tool. It’s ridiculous but I’m pretty sure that’s their reasoning
No, you sue Lyft or Uber. I just did, and won a settlement. That's why they have insurance plans. If it EXCEEDS a 1m/2m limit, then you can sue the driver... But at that point... Why?
Nothing in the app is stopping tipping outside the app. They ain't spying on your conversation via mic and camera yet.
Yes to almost everything, but Lyft is always listed as a codefendant and often has to pay more than half, sometimes all of any damages awarded. Source: I’m an auto liability PI
Facts
or just ask for venmo but yeah that’s bs
Yeh one could put a QR code for tips.
When I was driving for Lyft you literally couldn’t tip ANYTHING in the app. I drove this pilot who made a lot of money and was moving to Hawaii he thought he could tip in the app and he was so sad he couldn’t tip he asked for my PayPal. I didn’t end up giving it to him because I had to drop off fast at the airport but I’m sure he learned that lesson and so did I.
Maaan I haven’t TOUCHED a dollar since covid pretty much, its crazy to think I use money so much but dont touch it 😳
Don’t tell the DoorDash subreddit they will go insane if you mention cash
I always bring cash and just tip my drivers with it. I just assume they don’t have to declare if they get cash? Am I right?
*Legally*, they do have to declare it as income. *Legally*....
I always bring cash and just tip my drivers with it. I just assume they don’t have to declare if they get cash? Am I right?
Yes cash tips or not tracible like in app tips.
They dont want you to spoil the driver. It will be hard for them to control the driver with the minimum wage. They need them for more hours rather than making them call for the day.
When I used to work with a bunch of top executives they chanted the phrase “you’ve got to keep them hungry.” When I asked what that meant they said that the only way to get more work out of the working class was to pay them barely enough to survive. The idea is the hungrier you are, the harder you work. Then again hungry employees do other things like steal, or they show up and do the absolute bear minimum. So the execs are actually wrong. Look at Wawa. Very successful company, and they treat their employees good.
Costco too
Dude, I was just talking about how nice Costco people are and somebody else told me they get paid well
For retail they have decent ish to good pay and great benefits. Plus free memberships. Notice I said plural
My company pays us well and treats us like actual humans. As a result, we all work hard and don't put up with lazy coworkers at all.
>Very successful company, and they treat their employees good Uhh have you worked there? It's pretty much just a weird cult lol. And they really don't pay that great unless you are a AGM+
That should be illegal.
Have Venmo or cash app handy. It helps.
This and the fact that the CC company charges Lyft a fee for processing the tip… that eats into Lyfts profit on the ride.
Generally a result of their payment processor. I use Square for my private client rides and they won’t allow a credit card tip over $50.
Your situation is different. What you have is an authorization hold that takes place before the charge goes through. The CC company allows a tip over a certain percentage of that authorization without a new authorization being run. If Lyft was under that restriction then rides that went way longer would get kicked back because they would go over the threshold. Lyft can charge a card whenever they want, as long as their system runs a new authorization. They are doing this themselves because they want to limit our income. They just like most executives believe in the idea of “you’ve got to keep them hungry.” Meaning, they believe that if we make too much money we won’t work hard enough. Another issue is chargebacks. I’m sure there have been drunk people who entered one too many zeros when tipping then filed a fraudulent chargeback the next day. Even though such a chargeback wouldn’t be valid, it still impacts their chargeback rate with their processor. If this rate goes too high, the company can permanently lose credit card access, which would result in them going out of business immediately. Seeing how both Uber and Lyft have a reputation for fraudulently charging people or people stealing peoples rides, they probably get a lot of chargebacks. I wouldn’t be surprised if they got a warning letter at some point. Credit card processing companies don’t play around, and they don’t care how big your company is either. Once a company is added to the MATCH and TMF lists it’s game over. No processor will contract with them. I know this because I did software design years ago for a payment processor.
Probably exactly this reason...chargebacks or disputes. If the rider tips $100 or even $1000...then later disputes the charge. The rider is 50/50 or more off the hook, the driver already has the tip and Lyft is left holding the bag. So to prevent possible scams or Lyft not profiting on a ride - cap tips.
They cap charges as well. 300 bucks for lyft. So longer rides won't pay out, if.a person is desperate they might tip you 100% of a 200 dollar trip but aren't allowed to...
If you want to give a larger tip than the app allows, talk to the driver, let them know you want to give them a tip that is larger than the app allows and ask if they would accept CashApp or Venmo.
PayPal, Apple Pay. Really any money service people have different ones !
Because you can only tip up to 200% of the ride im sure you ride cost was almost 8$ thats why it said 23.98 was the max and as of recently the tip an not exceed 50$ my advice is either Carry cash or if you know you’re gonna tip them that much ask for their Venmo cash app it’s sad how they put a limit on how much you can tip. Hope that helps.
You can't tip more than their cut.
Just cashapp them
Ask for their cashapp
Zelle or cash app them the rest before you step out of that car!!!! Or next time bring cash. I know you can’t tip more than 200% of their ride order
Because Lyft doesn't want the drive to earn over 30$ an hour
Because Lyft is a piece of shit corporation
Always tip cash as they are personal gifts and not taxable
That is not true. Do you think a waiter does not have to declare their cash tips?
If you specify that it is a personal gift it is non taxable. Do you understand the English language? Like just basic understanding? I know this is reddit and the 2nd biggest collection of ignorance on the internet behind facebook.. but come on dude..
That is not how it works. You cant just give strangers tips and say its a gift. Do you think you declare bankruptcy by actual declaring your bankrupt? What you are describing is tax evasion my dude.
You honestly think that that non government agency that collects and distributes taxes is gonna track down a cab driver or a waiter over $100 personal gift they received from a client 🤔 🙄 shit you may be right.. for the record you can accept $18,000 in personal gifts from a single person before you have to claim it. I guess I should tell the girl that cuts my hair she needs to claim those gifts I gave her or the IRS is gonna come shoot her dog.
Is up to 100% or less, not over it
No, it’s actually 200% or $50 tops you can look it up , on lyft website it shows you for example if you had an eight dollar ride you could tip them $24 (200% but if you had a $50 ride the max you could only tip them is $50. You cannot tip them 200%.
200% of 8 is 16 not 24
No. 100% more of 8 is 16. 200% more of 8 is 24. 200% is 3x
I just woke up, but if the bill is 8$ and you want to tip 100% you would be tipping 8$ so a 200% tip would be 16$
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Because when a driver makes in one ride what he usually makes all day, he’s not going to accept their crap offers the rest of the day
It’s telling you. They don’t want to pay the fee to process a $100 tip, because they’re not getting any of it.
Say you left something and send a message you just wanted to make sure he got an extra tip and ask for his Venmo or whatever
Probably had too many accidentally high tips resulting in disputes.
This was my guess. Drunk people forget that they need the money in their account, tip driver a lot, wake up next morning to check their account to see 50+ dollars spent on just a tip alone, call Lyft in a fuss, and repeat with a hundred other people. Easier to just set it at 200% and no more than a certain amount so you don't have to deal with all that shit.
To prevent fraud is guess ? You could easily spend "bad" money earning (that's just a supposition)
cuz that’s too much
Always tip in cash
It's to prevent money laundering.
Thats really messed up that you can't tip what you want.
At least Lyft is honest about it, Uber on the other hand, will act like everything is OK, yet if you go to the trip history later, there will be no tip shown at all, and if you try again, the app will again let you "tip" then agin it will just dissappear. You think you tipped $100 while you didn't tip at all. (Because who checks the trip details the next day) Thank you for being awesome and trying!
To the drivers here seeing this post. The solution in my opinion is place a QR code to cash app quick pay or w/e other options are available to you and passengers and Write “Direct Tips are very Appreciated” thank you! That way you can also work around these companies don’t let these companies dictate and treat you like less than what you’re worth if somebody is being generous and wants to tip you $50,$100,or even $500 you’re already ready and don’t have to get ready! If you know you know!
Because they hate there drivers and don't want them to have a living so they can't log out and have to work crazy hours.
Lift does this because most people who would tip this amount would be doing it by accident, or in unlikely scenarios be used for some form of money laundering/fraud. How many people are actually tipping more than 200% of the ride or whatever the cap is? The answer is almost zero. I’d imagine a lot of the posts here are people trying to get attention too “Look at me, I’m so generous I was gonna tip $100 for this 2 mile ride, but Lyft told me no!“ Then in reality they delete the $100 they typed and then tip $5 or something.
I get tipped 200% routinely damn u don’t only accidentally. That sucks. Try and relate with them a little more. It can be dangerous cuz people r evil but it pays very well. Plus im a decent human being i spent time with a passenger that was saying they wanted to kill themselves let them use my vape. Went offline. Helped them buy a plane ticket. But my brother killed himself and know how hard it is for the survivors. Not to toot my own horn but I have cash app but not Venmo or Zelle and it’s getting annoying the they can’t tip what they want. Like company paid rides that’s retarded that they have that feature they use their own account but can’t tip. That’s madness.
Because they don't want their payment system being used to pay for drugs.
Because Lyft and Uber is bs, they take advantage of drivers, they need to pay them by the hour at least 30 an hour as an independent contractor
Yup.. they can't have a driver making more then they are
Had a crush on my driver this morning and was tempted to do this.
Due to credit card fraud prevention, credit card companies have limited tips to the amount of the original transaction. This applies to restaurants, ride sharing, and anything else you use your credit card to pay
Because Lyft feels like you should be giving that money to them, not the driver
Cash tips or Venmo cashapp etc You really couldn’t think of that?
Cc fees
To avoid fraud.
appreciate the insight
It seems awful, but the reality is that it probably has something to do with them trying to prevent shady money transactions disguised as tips.
Maybe to avoid processing payment of anything else except the ride, like a ride in the back seat, lawn mowing etc. It just puts Lyft and/or the payment processor in a difficult position.
It’s probably an anti money laundering thing. Likely limits the tip to 100% of the ride cost
Doesn’t it say up to 23 🤷🏽♀️
This is probably to prevent money laundering. What would stop someone from getting a ride from an accomplice using a stolen credit card and tipping their buddy $10,000 which could be almost immediately converted to cash when the driver is paid out? I'd think it would be pretty difficult to recover those funds from a contractor and Lyft would probably end up holding the bag. Yes, everyone involved would likely be banned, but the damage would already be done.
not just that, but selling drugs out of your uber. not that i know anyone who has done that.
When is it my turn to ask this question? Is there a list somewhere?
Probably to keep Lyft out of any involvement with and sort of scams, or other illegal activity that could be disguised as a tip.
Because Lyft hates you and doesn’t understand what driving is….
Prevent money laundering
Gryft is being petty because the driver would get that $100, and not them. Not far from the truth, honestly!
You gotta move the decimal over. 1.00 fixed it for ya
I would just tip the driver in cash so it will not get taxed the Lyft.
Reach out to the driver. Send them cash through Venmo or cashapp. And in the meanwhile send the max.
I don't know about Lyft but in Uber you can tip multiple times, the limits are there to prevent accidental tipping of large amounts.
What happens at times is: 1. A drunk keys in a big fat tip. He wakes up the next morning and repents of it. This helps avoid that. 2. The customer accidentally hits a key twice and it adds an extra figure. The customer does not realise it until he sees the bill. These are not necessarily the only possibilities.
Fck lyft,my cars all fckd up from this sht company,,I hope a major lawsuit will be in the workings
They make it hard to launder money that way.
It’s the laziest way of dealing with people getting there accounts hacked and people draining it with a Lyft scam and tipping really high. Also they no longer have to deal with drunk people complaining they tipped too much after sobering up. It’s total BS though! I’ve had people get out ant go to an ATM because they were so pissed they could only tip like $20. It’s cruel it makes no sense and ridiculous to control tips in this manner.
Cause drug dealers
Wow Lyft sucks, if you were really gonna drop them a hundred bucks I'm sure you would've made their day. Good to know for anyone potentially interested in driving for Lyft that even if someone wanted to be particularly generous with an act of kindness like that, they won't let it happen. Shameful imo.
Most people celebrate using visas or Google wallet and Apple pay, I mourn the death of cash. We are slowly losing a portion of freedom for some temporary convenience.
I'd keep big tips off the app, odds are the driver has some form of payment method other than cash, just ask.
What did you actually tip for the ride or were you just testing out what the max tip is?
Always tip in cash since it can’t be taxed
Seee now if a driver had a little sign that said "if the app won't let you tip more and you feel so inclined here's my cashtag etc." That's not the same as trying to guilt your passengers into tipping you.
If I had to guess I'd guess Drugs. The answer is using Lyft to wash drug money for small time people. Source: my friends dealer was a bartender and had miraculously good tips
If anybody wants to make my life by tipping a million I've got Cash App, Venmo, PayPal, Zelle, and GPay. Uber doesn't have to get a cut, you can It Could Happen to You me, no problems!
Could tip $20 cashapp the rest?
Always carry cash for transportation apps and delivery apps, that way 1 the person doesn't have to declare the tip on their taxes and 2 the app can't steal their tip money, plus you can give them as much tip as you want to.
In the wild West days of Uber there were a lot of dealers laundering money through the app.
They capped that shit quick.
Probably fees associated with using credit card.
Uber does this too. Had someone have to venmo me the tip because it was well above the limit. (Ride was $30, tip was $2500)
Tip in cash if it means that much to you.
CASH works better than card !
Just use third party like PayPal , Zelle, or Cashapp or cash to tip. Lyft has a hard limit to make sure the corporate executives get as much money as they can but have to make sure the drivers don't make anymore than what they allow so their ego doesn't get hurt 👍🏽
I think this is due to stolen credit cards as I've had many times in the past rides that were minimum fare (5 mins) to a WaWa or atm and they would say "hey can you do me a favor I'll tip you 60 after the ride if you can stop at a atm just give me 40 back and you keep 20 as the tip" .. and I've done it to, as long as we both get out of the car and I'll split it with them in the store. But these reqeusts were always from the hood "Camden NJ" And I'm willing to bet it's safer because they never have to be on a store camera using the stolen card they can just make a new guest account on lyft or uber with a burner phone and tip drivers largely from the card to keep getting cash off of it. It's slick but could very well be part of the reason why they safeguard tipping any number you want. I had it happen years later and it wouldn't work I told him a 5 min ride isn't gonna let you tip anymore then 10 bucks usually now.
That’s weird I got a $100+ tip before
They know drivers work towards dollar amount goals, which is why they don't want us to get paid a lot because they want us working more hours... Beginning to think some the tips that land the next day might be because of that as well...
way to go lyft
We all know you ain’t tippin 100.
Because they hate us
that bs so damn much.
Your welcome to carry cash and hand it about as you please lol
It's because they don't want the drivers making more than them!
I think in years previous they saw how lucrative these jobs were and cracked down heavy so ppl can continue to struggle and have to play their game
I've drunk tipped too many times to have any problems with lyft doing this .
Real talk they don't want drivers to make good money because in return the probability is the driver doing less rides which equals less money for the company.
I mean, if you’re worried about just the tip, you could have just handed the $100 cash
Poor driver will never get that tip 😔😓😔 Hey just the heck of it I'd give him my cash just cause, I mean cash is still king baby
Tip cash or Venmo/cashapp
The CC company charges Lyft a fee for processing the tip… that eats into Lyfts profit on the ride.
Drug deals, money laundering, banking regulations....
I believe it's to prevent money laundering. Obviously it sucks that you can't tip more than 100% but yeah. I believe that is the reason.
If you're sober, this is when you use PayPal.
I wanna know this too. I tried to give my driver a $40 tip for returning my phone almost immediately and I didn't have to pay the fee for Uber to return it. But it only let me give him $20 I was pissed.
Yeah I wouldn’t tip through the app I’m sure Lyft would try and do something sketchy about it anyway
Sounds like bullshit to me.
Rideshare companies also don't care about their driver's earnings.
Tip control should be illegal
Because if the drivers make too much money too quickly, they might decide to go enjoy themselves instead of staying on the road. And Lyft can’t have that.
Because it's excessive and uber want you to use that money for more rides
Lyft doesn't want to be accused of and have to defend itself against money laundering. That's literally all it is.
You can only too up to the fare wow that’s wild I’m creating a app like Uber but with crypto so drivers could get compensated fairly
I usually tip cash. Then you can give as much as you want!
fraud
I'm sure someone with the most white trash screen name on earth is really trying to tip $100
Cash or venmo…. Most drivers have like venmo, CashApp, or Zelle
This is hella dumb… they should let you tip anything you want and just ask you like a bunch of times if you are sure
Tip via cash app
To keep unsavory types from using it for money laundering
Pathetic attempt on being Reddit relevant
They get charged a percentage by the CC company and can not pass that on to the driver. If they did not limit the tip they could end up losing money on the transaction.
Learn to fuckin read.
You should get used to tipping in cash.
I always tip in cash, it's more immediately useable