If you make youtube vids about food, history, medicine, culture, etc. I'd watch.
But, I wouldn't go and personally visit.
I find it easier and more engaging to learn in my own time.
I think it'd be a great way to reach and tell others about what the culture would be like, as you could target the history demographic like Townsends does, and make quality videos, while also making quality vids and reaching a wide audience.
Then use that wide engagement to funnel people who'd be interested, but haven't heard of it, into your workshop outside of YouTube.
[https://www.youtube.com/@townsends](https://www.youtube.com/@townsends)
Youtube channel that I'm talking about
as an overseas immigrant that have zero knowledge about aboriginal culture, but love cultural stuff in general, please update us if you decided to pull the trigger to create a social media account
Would be cool, but personally I wouldn't pass up the chance to learn face to face especially from one of the O.G culture of Melbourne like come on people let's get off our asses instead of virtue signalling about indigenous people.
That's why I recommended YouTube, so you can reach a broader audience, people feel less committed.
You will always get people who take little to passing interest in what you want to teach, but if you advertise via trying to share your passion, it's a very good way to funnel potential clients/customers/students, into what OP wants actually do, teach in person.
This might seem silly, but it’s not: start an Instagram page and share here. Then have longer form videos available on YouTube.
Short form content helps drive demand and allows people to see if they want to watch the longer content without commitment. I’d love to consume this, frankly.
For better or for worse, it’s how people consume media nowadays. If you want to do something with a low upfront cost and manage to get people to watch then using a free algorithm to get it to people who might want to watch is best. IG and TikTok have a much larger audience than watching YouTube due to infinite scroll and short form videos.
Who said anything about making money? I highly doubt OP would make money doing this unless he is in a top percentage of creators. OP wants to connect and I suggested the platforms with the largest share of users. If you don’t like social media, get off reddit.
I’m just giving OP information, and you don’t like those platforms.
You can choose to not feed the beasts *you* don’t like, but that doesn’t mean anything I’ve said is incorrect or “brain dead nonsense”.
I'd like to hear about the martial history. Feuds and conflicts with other groups.
And management of environment. I've heard of deliberate setting of fires and that kind of thing. Like what are the 'rules', when would it be done, what preparations would be made, etc.
Fires are now a part of the landscape, without fire the fuel (leaves and sticks) builds up and eventually makes a fire more intense when it does happen, we seasonally burned areas for food and it attracted the kangaroos an emus when the fresh grass came out which is where we hunted
Yes, absolutely, but like anything it needs to be easy and accessible for people, otherwise they wont bother educating themselves. How it's taught is as important as what's taught.
How do you personally pronounce Wurundjeri? I often hear people stress the second syllable, but I was of the understanding that the correct pronunciation is stressing the first syllable (with secondary stress on the third syllable). Do you personally feel it makes a difference? Do you get annoyed with one pronunciation over the other?
Thanks. This is the most common pronunciation I hear, but if you listen to someone like Uncle Colin Hunter Jr give a welcome to country, he stresses the first syllable, the WU-run-dje-ri.
If you're really keen to get some learnings out there, I'd recommend dropping in or sending a facebook message to your local community centre or neighbourhood house. eg: Warrandyte Neighbourhood House in Yarra St.
Especially coming up to NAIDOC week, program co-ordinators in the sector are often trying to line up guest speakers, events, or help make sure that all the staff are on the same page for the tone of their lessons and programs.
We were so excited when a local artist reached out and offered to run some workshops with the kids about the flora in the paddocks behind our centre. Centres like ours wouldn't say no to having someone join our walking group to share knowledge of culture and/or country as we wander.
I’d love it, too. I was at a smoke ceremony a few years ago where they explained a load of stuff and I’ve been at an event in Yarra where the elder explained a few things at the welcome to country. It made a huge difference in my approach to indigenous people I work with. Knowledge is power.
Nice idea!
Down Wathaurong way theres a Keeper of the Lore. The one from years ago popped into our school and talked about a few things. Theres also been weekend camps where kids learn a pile of good stuff too from him.
Im sure theres a pile of folks that would certainly benefit from talks when youre up for it :D Great idea!
I would love to hear of wurundjeri spirituality. In particular of the wurundjeri healers like the ngangkari in SA. More specifically of "marali" which to me sounds like astral travel.
yeah absolutely. Personally, I love oral history - i think time has proven it to be more effective than written history, at least in the very long term.
Do you have any tales from the past passed down that you can share?
You should reach out to local schools and see if anyone can help you to develop a program to do with the local kids. It could be really valuable, especially for any indigenous kids whose family can't or won't teach them.
Good on ya for keeping it alive mate! It's sad what has happened to your culture since the invasion. Sometimes I think of what kind of country we could have been if they had of worked *with* the original inhabitants instead of trying to wipe them out. More like New Zealand has done. So many skills lost over time that could have been harnessed. I honestly think we would have been some kind of super country if they had of learned from the original inhabitants, while also teaching what they knew.
Never stop keeping it alive!
Exactly!! There is so much knowlage we lost which would boost humanity. [join the wurundjeri group chat:)](https://www.reddit.com/c/Wurundjeri_biik/s/ynLxzolHu3)
Love to learn more. I also second an Instagram page, great way of sharing knowledge, I’ve seen one guy doing some recently which has been cool and getting lots of traction.
Do you have much info on the family line? I’ve done some work with other mobs and family’s and I find it fascinating. What I’ve pieced together from a few of the Elders is Annie Borate had a son (Robert) whose children then set up the council (?) and became three main family groups of the council today. I know some of them then had very large families around this time. Any additional/incorrect or missing info?
I’m a teacher of mostly international students and like to ensure my students actually learn some names and faces.
Only if you’re interested in sharing this info of course
Yeah I’ve thought of it. I think I might do it.
Sadly I have no knowlage of my family. We adopted someone into our family and the rest of my current family doesn’t connect much.
Let us know if you do so we can follow it.
Ah no worries, sorry to hear it.
I picked up quite a few family tree making skills and used them to connect some families in the past, I’d love to be able to utilise that work again sometime.
Years ago I was at a conference, and someone did a presentation about the history to the welcome to country. It was brilliant.
Even though it’s so widely used now (and dare I say overdone at times), I don’t think most people really understand it. I know I didn’t.
So I think videos that explain the welcome to country, smoking ceremonies etc would be great.
You know how there is about 300 words that are used to communicate between different aboriginal groups…could you start teaching me those, and then include more local Victorian words? I’m western Victorian.
I’m also wanting to learn about bush Tucker and farming techniques…especially stuff locally grown. I’ve got access to some land and would like to grow traditional foods.
There’s actually a few more then 300, there planning on making a dictionary soon. I have my own word list as well. If you dm me I’d be happy to teach you!
I'd love to hear more. I feel like we don't get to learn much about any particular First Nations culture here unless we actively go out of our way. Seconding the request for a YT channel!
What're some cool stories or facts you'd like to share, in the meantime?
My son and I were just talking about how much we would love to make friends with an Indigenous Aussie so they could teach us all about living off the land, culture, dream time...
Yes! I'd love to learn about fire making locally. I have looked into fire making methods, but they seem to be for more northern areas.
I did take a photo of a plaque at Healesville sanctuary last Christmas that told the type of tree the wurundjeri used for fire making. As I remember it said that the sticks off that tree were quite rare in this part of victlria, and were valuable trading items amongst different tribes. I looked for the photo I took when I saw this post, and its not in my phones photo album for some weird reason.
I would also love to learn more about bush foods. I have tried Warragul greens for the first time recently, and they were *delicious* just blanched with no seasonings!
Great! [wurundjeri gc](https://www.reddit.com/c/Wurundjeri_biik/s/ynLxzolHu3) join the group! I’m assuming you are talking about grass tree flower stems? They are always the number one plant to use for fire making
I would…I’m not close by though.
I was thinking of visiting my local co-op to see if any locals could teach me about my area. What do you think my chances would be?
Yes absolutely! What format would you choose? I would prefer a more “live” version- my local library hosts a lot of programs (for adults) where they have various speakers, some tell stories, some give live demonstrations, sometimes it’s a q & a. I think there’d definitely be an interest in all the topics you mentioned
If you make youtube vids about food, history, medicine, culture, etc. I'd watch. But, I wouldn't go and personally visit. I find it easier and more engaging to learn in my own time.
Agree, YouTube then share
I have thought of it
I think it'd be a great way to reach and tell others about what the culture would be like, as you could target the history demographic like Townsends does, and make quality videos, while also making quality vids and reaching a wide audience. Then use that wide engagement to funnel people who'd be interested, but haven't heard of it, into your workshop outside of YouTube. [https://www.youtube.com/@townsends](https://www.youtube.com/@townsends) Youtube channel that I'm talking about
Yeah for aure
as an overseas immigrant that have zero knowledge about aboriginal culture, but love cultural stuff in general, please update us if you decided to pull the trigger to create a social media account
No worries!!
Would be cool, but personally I wouldn't pass up the chance to learn face to face especially from one of the O.G culture of Melbourne like come on people let's get off our asses instead of virtue signalling about indigenous people.
Exactly
Please do it! Even a little cooking channel about bushfoods, where to buy, collect and cook them would be so interesting!
Yeah Absalutly
[coolamon making](https://youtu.be/-WpNmc7hm24?si=cdhR_zqE4i0v3CVc)
\*Watches for 5 seconds.\* "Alrighty I'm bored."
That's why I recommended YouTube, so you can reach a broader audience, people feel less committed. You will always get people who take little to passing interest in what you want to teach, but if you advertise via trying to share your passion, it's a very good way to funnel potential clients/customers/students, into what OP wants actually do, teach in person.
Facebook shorts, then.
This might seem silly, but it’s not: start an Instagram page and share here. Then have longer form videos available on YouTube. Short form content helps drive demand and allows people to see if they want to watch the longer content without commitment. I’d love to consume this, frankly.
[coolamon making](https://youtu.be/-WpNmc7hm24?si=cdhR_zqE4i0v3CVc)
I partially agree; but I'd prefer skipping the ig, tiktok etc nonsense for the braindead and just put real content up on YouTube.
You can make YouTube you primary focus, then use edited clips from that, like what Tasting History with Max and Townsends does
For better or for worse, it’s how people consume media nowadays. If you want to do something with a low upfront cost and manage to get people to watch then using a free algorithm to get it to people who might want to watch is best. IG and TikTok have a much larger audience than watching YouTube due to infinite scroll and short form videos.
I understand that but not everything is about money. you can choose not to feed the beasts you don't like.
Who said anything about making money? I highly doubt OP would make money doing this unless he is in a top percentage of creators. OP wants to connect and I suggested the platforms with the largest share of users. If you don’t like social media, get off reddit. I’m just giving OP information, and you don’t like those platforms. You can choose to not feed the beasts *you* don’t like, but that doesn’t mean anything I’ve said is incorrect or “brain dead nonsense”.
I’d be called out for exploiting our culture if I did it for money rather then to teach
you are a legend! the Ancient Greeks (the founders of most Western ideals) also said that Money will corrupt your message!
Sure, let's start with some basic language. The "guidebook" phrases, if you will. Hello, goodbye, yes. no, etc.
Wominjeka(hello, welcome, you come heee with purpose) Biladu-njan warr?—how are you Marramb-ik burndap—I am good A few more out there
Awesome, thanks.
Seconding this
Yes please! I'd love to learn 'thank you' :)
Not really words for some of them but you can say a few other ones like Burndap yalingbu(good day )
Thanks! Burndap yalingbu :)
Thanks, warr have burndap yalingbu to;)
I'd like to hear about the martial history. Feuds and conflicts with other groups. And management of environment. I've heard of deliberate setting of fires and that kind of thing. Like what are the 'rules', when would it be done, what preparations would be made, etc.
Fires are now a part of the landscape, without fire the fuel (leaves and sticks) builds up and eventually makes a fire more intense when it does happen, we seasonally burned areas for food and it attracted the kangaroos an emus when the fresh grass came out which is where we hunted
Yes, absolutely, but like anything it needs to be easy and accessible for people, otherwise they wont bother educating themselves. How it's taught is as important as what's taught.
Exactly
Yeah in some ways I agree with that
How do you personally pronounce Wurundjeri? I often hear people stress the second syllable, but I was of the understanding that the correct pronunciation is stressing the first syllable (with secondary stress on the third syllable). Do you personally feel it makes a difference? Do you get annoyed with one pronunciation over the other?
Woo- like wood. Dun- like done. Jerdy- like jetty
Thanks, i was more asking about the stress. Which syllable is stronger, the first or second? My guess from your description that its the first one?
Wu-RUN-djeri Run is the more prevalent sound I think
Thanks. This is the most common pronunciation I hear, but if you listen to someone like Uncle Colin Hunter Jr give a welcome to country, he stresses the first syllable, the WU-run-dje-ri.
Yeah it differs, it’s mostly oral so as long as you know what someone’s saying it’s fine I guess
I'd be interested.
Great
If you're really keen to get some learnings out there, I'd recommend dropping in or sending a facebook message to your local community centre or neighbourhood house. eg: Warrandyte Neighbourhood House in Yarra St. Especially coming up to NAIDOC week, program co-ordinators in the sector are often trying to line up guest speakers, events, or help make sure that all the staff are on the same page for the tone of their lessons and programs. We were so excited when a local artist reached out and offered to run some workshops with the kids about the flora in the paddocks behind our centre. Centres like ours wouldn't say no to having someone join our walking group to share knowledge of culture and/or country as we wander.
Yeah for sure! Thanks!
I would love this.
Great! Dm me if you want t
Sick as bro, I'll get on it when I'm back from Cambodia.
Great!!!
I’d love it, too. I was at a smoke ceremony a few years ago where they explained a load of stuff and I’ve been at an event in Yarra where the elder explained a few things at the welcome to country. It made a huge difference in my approach to indigenous people I work with. Knowledge is power.
It’s really amazing, I was hoping to do a clenseing ceremony some time soon
What’s your single favourite thing about wurundjeri culture?
The diversity, it’s so so so rich. So much out there even though it’s been degraded by colonialism
Cool. Dunno why I got downvoted haha
Oh lol
Nice idea! Down Wathaurong way theres a Keeper of the Lore. The one from years ago popped into our school and talked about a few things. Theres also been weekend camps where kids learn a pile of good stuff too from him. Im sure theres a pile of folks that would certainly benefit from talks when youre up for it :D Great idea!
I am originally wathaurong, who was this you talked to?
Both Gents have passed away, sadly. Of course, you can PM me.
Oh they are in the dreaming
I would love to hear of wurundjeri spirituality. In particular of the wurundjeri healers like the ngangkari in SA. More specifically of "marali" which to me sounds like astral travel.
I’m still learning about actual cultural jobs but I know plenty of bush medicines and a few stories
Oooh bush medicines - yes! That would be really interesting.
It realy is
Where would it be located?
Warrandyte probably
nice, i will keep an eye out for more info!
yeah absolutely. Personally, I love oral history - i think time has proven it to be more effective than written history, at least in the very long term. Do you have any tales from the past passed down that you can share?
Sadly I don’t, I’m the only one in my family who is part of the culture now, none of them really care
You should reach out to local schools and see if anyone can help you to develop a program to do with the local kids. It could be really valuable, especially for any indigenous kids whose family can't or won't teach them.
Yeah for sure
That's a shame although unfortunately increasingly the common reality for most.
Yep, it’s unfortunate
Good on ya for keeping it alive mate! It's sad what has happened to your culture since the invasion. Sometimes I think of what kind of country we could have been if they had of worked *with* the original inhabitants instead of trying to wipe them out. More like New Zealand has done. So many skills lost over time that could have been harnessed. I honestly think we would have been some kind of super country if they had of learned from the original inhabitants, while also teaching what they knew. Never stop keeping it alive!
Exactly!! There is so much knowlage we lost which would boost humanity. [join the wurundjeri group chat:)](https://www.reddit.com/c/Wurundjeri_biik/s/ynLxzolHu3)
Love to learn more. I also second an Instagram page, great way of sharing knowledge, I’ve seen one guy doing some recently which has been cool and getting lots of traction. Do you have much info on the family line? I’ve done some work with other mobs and family’s and I find it fascinating. What I’ve pieced together from a few of the Elders is Annie Borate had a son (Robert) whose children then set up the council (?) and became three main family groups of the council today. I know some of them then had very large families around this time. Any additional/incorrect or missing info? I’m a teacher of mostly international students and like to ensure my students actually learn some names and faces. Only if you’re interested in sharing this info of course
Yeah I’ve thought of it. I think I might do it. Sadly I have no knowlage of my family. We adopted someone into our family and the rest of my current family doesn’t connect much.
Let us know if you do so we can follow it. Ah no worries, sorry to hear it. I picked up quite a few family tree making skills and used them to connect some families in the past, I’d love to be able to utilise that work again sometime.
That’s great mate, good to hear. My family would probably think I’m crazy for connecting with the culture
Years ago I was at a conference, and someone did a presentation about the history to the welcome to country. It was brilliant. Even though it’s so widely used now (and dare I say overdone at times), I don’t think most people really understand it. I know I didn’t. So I think videos that explain the welcome to country, smoking ceremonies etc would be great.
Yeah Absalutly
YES!!!
Epic!!!
You know how there is about 300 words that are used to communicate between different aboriginal groups…could you start teaching me those, and then include more local Victorian words? I’m western Victorian. I’m also wanting to learn about bush Tucker and farming techniques…especially stuff locally grown. I’ve got access to some land and would like to grow traditional foods.
There’s actually a few more then 300, there planning on making a dictionary soon. I have my own word list as well. If you dm me I’d be happy to teach you!
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Yeah for sure
I'd love to hear more. I feel like we don't get to learn much about any particular First Nations culture here unless we actively go out of our way. Seconding the request for a YT channel! What're some cool stories or facts you'd like to share, in the meantime?
Hmm, well what do you want to know? I’m still understanding the stories
My son and I were just talking about how much we would love to make friends with an Indigenous Aussie so they could teach us all about living off the land, culture, dream time...
That’s great! I’d love teach more people
Definitely agree with the other comments about starting an online series - covering conversational basics, food, etc.
For sure, I have made a video of me making coolamon, not really explaining but it shows to the process
Yes! I'd love to learn about fire making locally. I have looked into fire making methods, but they seem to be for more northern areas. I did take a photo of a plaque at Healesville sanctuary last Christmas that told the type of tree the wurundjeri used for fire making. As I remember it said that the sticks off that tree were quite rare in this part of victlria, and were valuable trading items amongst different tribes. I looked for the photo I took when I saw this post, and its not in my phones photo album for some weird reason. I would also love to learn more about bush foods. I have tried Warragul greens for the first time recently, and they were *delicious* just blanched with no seasonings!
Great! [wurundjeri gc](https://www.reddit.com/c/Wurundjeri_biik/s/ynLxzolHu3) join the group! I’m assuming you are talking about grass tree flower stems? They are always the number one plant to use for fire making
Best way to eat a roo?
I don’t known😭, I know the tail is good
Psst oi lad, I live in Melbourne northern suburbs, wanna show me some bush food?
Yeha no worries brother, message me
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Fax
I would love to. Would you do it at a local library?
I was hoping to do it in bushland on country
I would…I’m not close by though. I was thinking of visiting my local co-op to see if any locals could teach me about my area. What do you think my chances would be?
I’m not fussed, just message me any questions
I reckon they would be more then happy to share knowlage, email them and see if you can go to some events
Yes absolutely! What format would you choose? I would prefer a more “live” version- my local library hosts a lot of programs (for adults) where they have various speakers, some tell stories, some give live demonstrations, sometimes it’s a q & a. I think there’d definitely be an interest in all the topics you mentioned
That’s what I was hoping to, bush walk and tour basically
Good for you. I think you'll find a ton of us are up for getting to know the land better.
Wonderful
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Bunjil is mine, created of the land and water
I would personally be very interested in learning about Wurundjeri culture and history fwiw.
Nice!
Way to go!
Cheers