It's clearly not about listening to music, it's about trying to show everyone else how cool you are because of the music you listen to. It's childish and just embarrassing
So I used to be a firm believer in what this man is preaching but them I thought about it and aside from the sound quality, how different is this from standing near two people having a face to face conversation? Music and videos over speaker are another issue and those I agree should stay on headphones.
Do you start every call by letting the other person know that they are on speaker? Do you modulate the volume to keep it at the same relative sound intensity as background noise levels change? Do you control your own voice to maintain the same (low) volume you would if you didn't have an amplified version of someone else's voice to match/compete with? Does your speaker faithfully recreate the amplitude of their voice across all the frequencies that humans hear?
These are (some of) the ways it differs from a face to face conversation, and why it's disruptive and invasive to those around you and inconsiderate to the other party. Even if you're the unicorn that can answer yes to some or all of my questions above, the vast majority of speaker talkers cannot claim the same. They are introducing a digitized/unnatural sounding voice, at higher volumes than is necessary, and transmitting one or both sides of a conversation beyond the range that a face to face conversation would occur.
Relatedly, phone calls in general (whether on speaker or not) pull the talker out of their environment to some degree, diminishing responsiveness to social cues and interactions, but that's not exclusively a speakerphone phenomenon, so I'll leave that out of this discussion.
It's fine as long as they aren't yelling. It's no different than talking to someone next to you. It's when they don't realize how loud they are that it's a problem.
But music/video without headphones should be banned on public transport and in waiting rooms.
This is going to get downvoted for sure, but, normal conversations happen out loud, what's wrong with a phone conversation happening out loud? I feel like it's less a speakerphone thing and more a matter of what's being discussed and whether or not it's appropriate for public
Speakerphone conversations are avoidable, but the person with the phone is inconsiderate. The fact you need this explained to you is just mind blowing.
Please tell that to my 20-something neighbor that walks around all times of the day on speaker phone. How can someone so young never have heard of Bluetooth earbuds? 😡
I learned a long time ago that most ppl who you Don't know don't give a fk about you so why should I give a fuck about them? It's the public. If you don't like things you might experience in public then do go out into the public.
I wouldn't know. My mom had drunk sex with some random guy at a party in 1987 and that was the last of my dad that anyone I know has ever seen. So you might be. 🤷 Still don't care though and there is no amount of bullshit you can say that will change that. But hey this is entertaining so by all means keep trying
It's not because here's the problem, speakers on phones are designed in a specific fashion. They're very small and in turn are tuned very loudly in frequencies in the range of our voices so we could hear it further away.
This means that someone, although speaking normally sounds much louder on speakerphone. It is absolutely not pleasant and is uncomfortable for others around that don't participate in conversation.
The same goes for watching TikTok, Reels, YouTube etc.
It is absolutely annoying and rude to do it and we need to set the record straight.
Yup, but i just consider it as two people next to each other have a quick chat with one another and leave. Of course, i wouldn't do it on public transport, but if im walking then sure
Oh and also stop blasting music in open streets
It's clearly not about listening to music, it's about trying to show everyone else how cool you are because of the music you listen to. It's childish and just embarrassing
Why is it allowed
Talk on the phone all you want, just not on fucking speaker phone
But my normal speaker doesn't work!!!
Then just get a new phone.
Or headphones.
Some Sony WH-XMs
It costs money to fix my phone, but being a situational asshole is free.
Turn volume down
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The guy goes by the name "dude with sign" or something, and his entire thing is just holding up signs saying things like this
And listening to music without earbuds
+ tiktok, reels or whatever
I stand beside them/around them and start having a loud conversation with my company/myself about incredibly inappropriate things
I have a fucking insane Bluetooth speaker, and when I come across people like this, I introduce them to the band MESHUGGAH.
I would play NSFW by psychostick when people played their music openly in the break room. This might be a pet peeve
This is so fucking annoying. Especially in public transport.
Also, stop shouting when on the phone with your earbuds plugged in.
Just join in on the conversation
I just join in their conversation... If it was private, it shouldn't be in speaker ....
So I used to be a firm believer in what this man is preaching but them I thought about it and aside from the sound quality, how different is this from standing near two people having a face to face conversation? Music and videos over speaker are another issue and those I agree should stay on headphones.
Because it's avoidable, and rude.
Do you start every call by letting the other person know that they are on speaker? Do you modulate the volume to keep it at the same relative sound intensity as background noise levels change? Do you control your own voice to maintain the same (low) volume you would if you didn't have an amplified version of someone else's voice to match/compete with? Does your speaker faithfully recreate the amplitude of their voice across all the frequencies that humans hear? These are (some of) the ways it differs from a face to face conversation, and why it's disruptive and invasive to those around you and inconsiderate to the other party. Even if you're the unicorn that can answer yes to some or all of my questions above, the vast majority of speaker talkers cannot claim the same. They are introducing a digitized/unnatural sounding voice, at higher volumes than is necessary, and transmitting one or both sides of a conversation beyond the range that a face to face conversation would occur. Relatedly, phone calls in general (whether on speaker or not) pull the talker out of their environment to some degree, diminishing responsiveness to social cues and interactions, but that's not exclusively a speakerphone phenomenon, so I'll leave that out of this discussion.
A lot of the Latino population in Florida do this. Specially with WhatsApp, it’s annoying as hell.
This is Miami 24/7 it’s mostly older people who don’t know any better cause they never had a smartphone before let alone WhatsApp
Which is funny because those old ass cord phones were usually also pressed against the ear, i think these people are just obnoxious
What happens is that it’s a different time in old phones you had a delay to on the call now you don’t so it’s confusing to them
Never!
I hate when people that. it's crazy
I gotta support this guy you go girl!
I don't think they can listen to him.....
Old people have too... they're deaf basically... /s
It's fine as long as they aren't yelling. It's no different than talking to someone next to you. It's when they don't realize how loud they are that it's a problem. But music/video without headphones should be banned on public transport and in waiting rooms.
Wonder who dose that?
Sorry but if you’re having a fight over the phone, I want to listen in and pick a side.
This is going to get downvoted for sure, but, normal conversations happen out loud, what's wrong with a phone conversation happening out loud? I feel like it's less a speakerphone thing and more a matter of what's being discussed and whether or not it's appropriate for public
the speaker phone conversations are generally LOUD AS FUCK
Speakerphone conversations are avoidable, but the person with the phone is inconsiderate. The fact you need this explained to you is just mind blowing.
Never.
Please tell that to my 20-something neighbor that walks around all times of the day on speaker phone. How can someone so young never have heard of Bluetooth earbuds? 😡
They think shoving things in their ear holes is a sin.
But my 'ear speaker' is busted and doesn't play sound, 'cuz I've blown on it with the air pistol.. UwU;
Username checks out.
You are in public, do what you want. I’d turn it up.
No. Fk off. I'll do what I want and I don't care how you feel about it.
Why?
I learned a long time ago that most ppl who you Don't know don't give a fk about you so why should I give a fuck about them? It's the public. If you don't like things you might experience in public then do go out into the public.
Do you like getting punched in the face? If you don't, then don't go out in public.
Oho, someone is choosing war.
Nope. I don't care enough to even fight about it. I'll do what I want and that's that. If someone is mad about it, that's their problem.
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1: that's a helluva lot of assuming you just did. 2: I still don't gaf. Nice try though.
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I wouldn't know. My mom had drunk sex with some random guy at a party in 1987 and that was the last of my dad that anyone I know has ever seen. So you might be. 🤷 Still don't care though and there is no amount of bullshit you can say that will change that. But hey this is entertaining so by all means keep trying
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Lol no. Pissing ppl off is fun.
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Who's mad? Lol try again. 😂
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Why not
We don't want to hear the details of your 2nd cousin's cumshot distance world record... Also, it's annoying as fuck
Maybe you don't but I do. What's the record.
whats so special here
For me, it's because the place is too loud and there's no convenient area fir me to go to that's quieter
My phones fucked up and only works in speaker 🤷♂️
But the other speaker in my phone crapped out, and I can’t hear anyone unless it’s on speakerphone
Get headphones.
Listen man I have shit hearing and outside is loud, I need the speaker to speak up.
no
I personally don't really care honestly, same as two people talking normally
Im actually doing that right now!
Well sorry for being deaf! I swear people have no tolerance like they own the world or something.
Wait… that’s not the default when you answer it?
It's not because here's the problem, speakers on phones are designed in a specific fashion. They're very small and in turn are tuned very loudly in frequencies in the range of our voices so we could hear it further away. This means that someone, although speaking normally sounds much louder on speakerphone. It is absolutely not pleasant and is uncomfortable for others around that don't participate in conversation. The same goes for watching TikTok, Reels, YouTube etc. It is absolutely annoying and rude to do it and we need to set the record straight.
It should just act like a normal phone, unless you’re at a conference you don’t need the speaker setting.
Meh, who cares, i usually do it for quick phone calls, and it feels less uncomfortable too
Have you ever heard of “other people?” Maybe you would consider being considerate of them?
Yup, but i just consider it as two people next to each other have a quick chat with one another and leave. Of course, i wouldn't do it on public transport, but if im walking then sure
Na fk other ppl unless they are MY ppl. If I don't know you then I don't owe you a mfkn thing
Why?
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Meh. To each their own.