These games were made with scanlines from CRT in mind which would help "complete" the image, which HD televisions don't do.
see: https://noplatform.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/scanline-lcd-pixel.jpg
Thanks, that's exactly what I was referring to. When I first learned about this I felt vindicated - games in the 90's *really did* look better back then lol
Some games have CRT filters, but even filters won't necessarily be true to how it was because CRT Tvs weren't all the same either. Plus, I think most people don't care.
[https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2021-playstation-5-and-series-x-tested-on-a-crt-a-game-changer-for-image-quality](https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2021-playstation-5-and-series-x-tested-on-a-crt-a-game-changer-for-image-quality)
https://noplatform.wordpress.com/2021/07/02/scanlines-vs-hard-pixels-is-pixel-art-truly-retro-anymore/
HD/UHD screens actively make SD inputs worse because more pixels that are artificially filled with image data that isn’t actually there. Additionally, HD screens tend to be larger than your average CRT making things worse
Compression standards have gotten a lot better since mpeg-2. Even h264 which is getting older is effectively twice as efficient on bandwidth for dvd quality. I do agree that YouTube has been cutting their bandwidth more recently, but even a lower bandwidth 1080p stream from YouTube looks miles better than full quality DVD
Our brains keep raising it's standards. Which I wonder if we can start viewing things on a screen that is so high quality that real life will start looking fake and blurry.
This just shows how much more data video takes than audio. CD quality audio (44.1 kHz 16 bit stereo PCM) still holds up perfectly today (if mastered properly, cue the loudness war), since it exceeds the capability of human hearing. Meanwhile, DVD quality video is pretty crusty looking by today's standards.
A few years ago my dad told me that 720 was still HD and I quickly pointed to every reputable video platform that isn’t a porn site only considers 1080p and up HD, with that probably being replaced by a 1440 minimum in the not so distant future
Love finding old Youtube videos maxed out at 240p that are barely watchable. I swear they didn't look that bad before.
[good example](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZuK_wYrqp8)
And it's actually 144p!
Started buying 2 4k blu rays a month or 1080 dvd for a while now. We want to watch things without buffering even tho we have fast internet, there’s still streaming service sound quality, and darkness that happens. Pretty much everything is available on hard copy, and some companies make them all the time, and some at request. Using our series X as a blu ray player.
try watching a VHS tape (preferably longplay) on a screen >= 55".
Thankfully film can be scanned at any resolution. So old movies are not lost to low resolutions.
When your childhood 'HD' is now 'SD'
Look, DVD was 480p at most. Looked good on a CRT.
It really did look good. Maybe for the same reason that retro games look great on CRT's, but look super pixelated on modern LCD's.
These games were made with scanlines from CRT in mind which would help "complete" the image, which HD televisions don't do. see: https://noplatform.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/scanline-lcd-pixel.jpg
Thanks, that's exactly what I was referring to. When I first learned about this I felt vindicated - games in the 90's *really did* look better back then lol
Why don't they simply put a filter over old games?
Some games have CRT filters, but even filters won't necessarily be true to how it was because CRT Tvs weren't all the same either. Plus, I think most people don't care. [https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2021-playstation-5-and-series-x-tested-on-a-crt-a-game-changer-for-image-quality](https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2021-playstation-5-and-series-x-tested-on-a-crt-a-game-changer-for-image-quality) https://noplatform.wordpress.com/2021/07/02/scanlines-vs-hard-pixels-is-pixel-art-truly-retro-anymore/
There's a think called pixel blend and the pixels were a different shape
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Pretty much
If you’re lucky. Could have been 480i
Wait till you hear about VHS
HD/UHD screens actively make SD inputs worse because more pixels that are artificially filled with image data that isn’t actually there. Additionally, HD screens tend to be larger than your average CRT making things worse
Was watching summer slam 2004 on dvd on my crt today shit looked crisp
PAL DVDs were 576i.
No, dvd was 720p, as it's had 4gb at base. Cd was 360-480
NTSC DVDs were 480i. PAL DVDs were 576i.
In what world did you have video on CD.
Watch 720p on a 480p monitor, and you'll be blown away.
DVDs still look good
Nope; it's 576i. Not only low resolution but interlaced video and the wrong framerate as well.
it's 480i and it literally has higher data rate than youtube's current 1080p 💀
Compression standards have gotten a lot better since mpeg-2. Even h264 which is getting older is effectively twice as efficient on bandwidth for dvd quality. I do agree that YouTube has been cutting their bandwidth more recently, but even a lower bandwidth 1080p stream from YouTube looks miles better than full quality DVD
the trailer for the boys season 2 was 1.7mbps h.264. my claim was taking this to consideration
I still think 720p is good quality
How about computers that came with a floppy drive? We used to think 2.5 MB was plenty of space.🤣🤣🤣
I have made text files bigger
I watch DVDs on my 65" 4K TV with a decade old Sony Blu-ray player, still looks great.
Sure gramps, and motion smoothing options on your TV are really good too. /s
At least I know what to do when there's no internet.
You do got me there. When there’s an “x” on my WiFi symbol I legitimately panic a little inside. Lmao.
I was rocking a 56k modem into my mid 20s.
Damn. That was me at like 10.
Still the better way to watch Thomas the Tank Engine tbf
HD Downgrade, this sucks.
Our brains keep raising it's standards. Which I wonder if we can start viewing things on a screen that is so high quality that real life will start looking fake and blurry.
"But this is HDTV it has higher resolution than real life" \~Philip J Fry
From Mona Lisa to Mona Pixel
That true
100%
This just shows how much more data video takes than audio. CD quality audio (44.1 kHz 16 bit stereo PCM) still holds up perfectly today (if mastered properly, cue the loudness war), since it exceeds the capability of human hearing. Meanwhile, DVD quality video is pretty crusty looking by today's standards.
you dont go back in lifestyle
Unless you watch it on a CRT.
Because TVs were smaller
Honestly 720 ain't bad. Used it for my projector for like a year.
I don't know if it's the DVD player, but whenever I pause it to read something, it becomes so blurry I can't read anything.
SVGA in the 90s was like your 3rd eye opening.
Yep it definitely is haha
We had smaller screens. It certainly looked better on a 15” CRT
Look at all you fancy people with 20/20 vision.
Mmm, they make me kinda hard
Those hands
DVD was so much better than vhs. So yeah we loved it.
BUY A 4K PLAYER AND SOME 4Ks, people!
Me watching VHS: 
I used to sit 5m away from my TV, now I sit 2m away from my monitor.
I remember the same with blu rays. When I first watched a blu ray i was so stunned. Now it just looks normal.
720p content on a 720p monitor looks perfectly fine, it's only when you're watching it on much higher resolution displays that it looks awful.
i have like early 2000s internet, so i watch 720p videos at most lol
I remember times when 360p was enjoyable lol
There was a period (idk if it's over) where some DVD where internationally downgraded or badly done to promote Blurays
Everything seemed to be different, is not only the quality but the shows ahha have you tried watching a childhood show now?
A few years ago my dad told me that 720 was still HD and I quickly pointed to every reputable video platform that isn’t a porn site only considers 1080p and up HD, with that probably being replaced by a 1440 minimum in the not so distant future
I'm gonna be a nerd here, but 720p is technically HD. 1080p is FHD, 1440p is QHD/2K, and 2160p is UHD/4k.
IMO, 720p video from a DVD looks better than YouTube's overly compressed streaming.
I think they still look good. Go back and watch a VHS. There’s some poor quality.
I feel really dumb. I watched the last of us on DVD and it looked great. Am I missing something?
Love finding old Youtube videos maxed out at 240p that are barely watchable. I swear they didn't look that bad before. [good example](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZuK_wYrqp8) And it's actually 144p!
Us switch gamers are still living that 😅
Started buying 2 4k blu rays a month or 1080 dvd for a while now. We want to watch things without buffering even tho we have fast internet, there’s still streaming service sound quality, and darkness that happens. Pretty much everything is available on hard copy, and some companies make them all the time, and some at request. Using our series X as a blu ray player.
High bit rate 720p still looks good. The low bit rate YouTube calls 720p is trash.