I'm pretty sure that's a placeholder date. That's what they use when they have no specific date at hand. It's usually December 31 or January 1 what they put in instead.
Yeah that's how it is now for every game. Disc readers are not fast enough for how massive games are now, so discs are normally little more than keys to play the game
I don't get that sentiment because it just depends on what type of person you are. If you are a diehard MGS fan who will play every game no matter what, pre ordering is great. If you just enjoy the games and are unsure about the remake, wait for the reviews.
In some ways, yes, but all you're doing when you buy into a pre order is teaching game companies that it's okay to release broken shite on the release date because they already have their money.
I would gently argue that it isn't game devs that are slacking, and that it's actually management that are setting unrealistic deadlines. Any dev worth their salt would want to release a near polished product with only cosmetic and edge case bugs.
Agreed. I stopped doing this for new releases a long time ago. The only exceptions I have are regarding the occasional limited run gaming release for something I've already played before.
Pre ordering games is dumb, has always been dumb, and is even more dumb now in the digital age and games needing 50 million patches before being anywhere near a playable state.
"When you pre-order a game, youāre just committing to paying for something that some a**ho**s in California havenāt even finished working on yet. You know what you get for pre-ordering a game? A big d**k in your mouth."
Realistically you shouldnāt pre-order. That goes for practically every title as you never know whatās going to be broken day one. It makes for a lesser experience or a literally unplayable one. Donāt burn money and thatās not just Konami, apply that to everything. Never pre-order. Never pre-order unless you can say with confidence that the product is functional. These things cost money and your money shouldnāt be burnt.
As someone who loves MGS3 Iām excited. I like what I see, but even Iām not pre-ordering until I see a little more. Confidence is key.
never preorder games, wait for a day or a week after release!!! making a cool trailer is easier than making a good game, just look at the day before as an example
First off, as everyone else here said, as a rule, never preorder anything.
They don't even have a release date. They retracted November 17 already. Doesn't bode well.
Uhh, donāt? Pre ordering sets a bad precedent and companies will continue to do it so long as the stock of people who do so continue to game. Itās an old habit the gaming industry needs to shake off
I've never pre-ordered a game since the move to digital. They will always sell the preorder stuff eventually, and it's not like they will run out of copies.
Only pre-order things if you're looking to get the goodies, I pre-ordered Assassin's Creed Mirage and almost a year later I still haven't even booted it up yet because I know modern day games never release in a finished state and always need like fifty patches before they're playable.
The reason I pre-ordered was the badass Basim statue and other bonuses like the brooch, art book and CD. I never intended to play on release, if I did I wouldn't have pre-ordered since my preorder arrived like a week or two after launch anyway.
I think even buying a game at launch is a waste of money, paying the full Ā£60 is honestly highway robbery. You wait until it's dropped to at least Ā£30 then you get a cheaper game with all the patches to make it better.
I would only preorder if you want the steelbook from the Deluxe edition for collection reasons, and still, I would not open it until I see reviews confirming it is not another CP 2077 so I can sell it if I decide to.
The only reason I see is if you want the collectors edition.
Other than that there's never any reason to preorder games.
As others have said, you should always wait for reviews and the inevitable patches (because studios just cash-grab without delivering on the promises made to gamers).
I wouldn't pre-order, wait for launch and for the reviews first. It's not like the story can get spoiled for you, better to just guarantee the game releases in a good state without major scandals.
Do you \*want\* to preorder the game? Because either you do or don't, if you don't I'm not gonna try to convince you and if you do you don't need a reason from me.
I canāt. Still have the Legacy Collection on PS3 with every game and am still currently enjoy it from time to time. In fact about to start another full play through of all games. No need to preorder to buy the āmasterā collection for that matter.
There is no reason to pre order anything digital, they aren't gonna run outta copies, and you dont know what the actual product will b e like till release.
You shouldnāt preorder anything, you shouldnāt reward developers for a product they havenāt delivered yet. That being said, I have absolutely preordered this because I have been wanting a remake of 3 for years now and I am willing to accept the consequences of my poorly thought out decisions. Do not follow my actions.
As The Boss said: āNever mind what I didā
I'm still thinking about pre-ordering until more information is released. that's why we haven't gotten a release date yet when they can still fixing and testing the game out before it's ready. I'm hoping they are working in a not so tight deadline compared to alot of game devs but I think that an industry norm.
Everyone says don't pre-order games because they can be buggy messes, and it's usually true. But MGS is my favorite franchise and MGS3 is one of my all-time favorite games. Even if I have to wait for the bugs to be patched to play it, there's no scenario in which I never buy this game. I'm even planning to get the ultimate edition.
Never preorder. Check the reviews and public opinion before you buy any game. These days so many games are released too soon and need months of patches.
Personally I play my backlog and wait for games to reach their final state.
Do what you want, people pre-order all the time. I pre-ordered because I want the game delivered to me day one, I rather do it now rather than later, your preference.
I am pretty close to buying it along with Stellar Blade on Target because they have buy one game and get one 50% off. If I don't like it, I can sell it for $55-60.
Iād personally wait for a month or two to see other peopleās thoughts on the game before I buy it. Or even wait until it gets on sale.
I personally donāt really dig with preordering.
Imagine they give the infinite bandana as a preorder bonus and include a battlepass to unlock other cosmetics. Or better yet, hear me out, each level is a seperate dlc. Oh and.....lootboxes. /s
The clap of Snake's asscheeks keep alerting the guards.
Seriously tho: don't pre-order anything and especially don't pre-order anything from a company with a recent track record like Konami's.
do not pre order something people havent criticised nor tested yet.
unless you arent a collector, at all cost dont buy it, not even from a company that would prefer making money than games.
Don't perorder. Wait until the price drops, then Buy.
And also, I'd consider getting this bc it'll most likely come with the online mode that was discontinued in the original version.
PLEASE DONT PREORDER.
even for games that you are sure you're going to like, preorders and they way they are being abused for willing payers are a cancer and we need to show the "industry" that they cant pull shit like that anymore, were are not paypigs!
Thats because theyre NOT doing mocap to go with it.
I get down voted a lot but its the truth.
Mgs3 was good because of the mocap, if you
Look at delta the lips move all wrong, the cqc is off, like they didnt motion capture anything just animated a skin job.
Theres a part in the trailer where snake throws an ocelot unit but does the judo wrong......
Anyone can animate and make stuff look pretty but without the motion capture with the fidelity to go with it will look funky and off.
Like snakes torso in delta, looks like a upside down triangle theres no real life fidelity to it.
Look at his left hand thumb, it looks cool from far away , his pose and all but the thumb is like more than half as long as his index finger.......
I feel delta is a big sham.
I myself am not going to pre-order or buy.
Im a metal gear fan, not a kojima fan, so i feel if the quality is good id come back to it.
But the quality is just not there. Does it look cool in unreal engine 5? Yes it does.
Does it feel like quality, NO.
Just look at the actual mgs3 motion cap.
You can tell how good the game is because of the effort.
They didn't animate something some dude sitting in computer mouth breathing thought looked "Tactic cool" , no.
They hired actual gun spinning guys, actual fight choreography.
Delta is all about the looks but its the devil in the details that made metal gear solid 3 so good
Just look at that sexy motion capture.
Its like they filmed a movie then made it a game....
https://youtu.be/vcZ6l-JSa5g?si=MiWsXjS9NqJsUMm_
Its ok if Konami wants to hype up their game, i dont blame them
But the konami business model has been
[investing into pachinko ](https://youtu.be/ziwuudqfLxY?si=vFubiCZBGEfZhoEN)
Having David hayter say " we kept all the original voice acting !"
Means squat when you dont do things right.
Id rather not have david hater but get all the time effort and quality of the original.
MGS cutscenes used to have almost theatrical feel to them. Without either attention to detail or understanding it they can easily mess up how the whole game feels.
Nuke Dukem Forever
Assassins Creed Unity
Watch Dogs
Batman Arkham Knight
Fallout 76
No Man's Sky
Cyberpunk 2077
Star Wars Battlefront II
GTA: Definitive trilogy
These are just the ones from the top of my head but do I need to say more?
Uhh yeah I donāt think you should pre-order just yet we donāt even have a release date. Iām usually against pre-ordering unless I know for sure the game will be great. The last game I pre-ordered was RE4 Remake and before that, Elden Ring.
Be patient. There is zero point to preordering anything ever. Frankly if you wait a few months after release the game will probably have more patches/content.
The Game doesn't even have a release date and you can pre order. Don't you want to give your money to a corporation that takes your money before they can give a vague release window.
Don't preorder, the stuff you get day one hasn't been revealed. And it's likely just a camo or facepaint
I wonder if you buy the Disc version will it be just a placeholder to download the entire game š¤
Idk, but both the deluxe disc version and DAY ONE are only shipping on January 1 2026 where I live... Hopefully it doesn't mean it's delayed again
I'm pretty sure that's a placeholder date. That's what they use when they have no specific date at hand. It's usually December 31 or January 1 what they put in instead.
Yeah that's how it is now for every game. Disc readers are not fast enough for how massive games are now, so discs are normally little more than keys to play the game
Yeah haven't we talked about this to death! Never preorder! At best wait for two or three reviews from your most trusted sources.
I don't get that sentiment because it just depends on what type of person you are. If you are a diehard MGS fan who will play every game no matter what, pre ordering is great. If you just enjoy the games and are unsure about the remake, wait for the reviews.
i mean if youāre gonna buy it anyways just do it
In some ways, yes, but all you're doing when you buy into a pre order is teaching game companies that it's okay to release broken shite on the release date because they already have their money.
So you can bitch when the game comes out and it has predictable launch day bugs.
You donāt have to pre-order to do that.
There will definitely be a Day One Patch heehee not hatin' though
Yeah lmao no, Day 1 patches wonāt fix shit. You think Day 1 patches fixed cyberpunk? DO NOT PREORDER GAMES!
i preordered outlast trials, it never let me down
You shouldn't pre-order anything .....
This is the correct answer, game Devs have been slacking recently so keep Ur money in your pocket till reviews are out
I would gently argue that it isn't game devs that are slacking, and that it's actually management that are setting unrealistic deadlines. Any dev worth their salt would want to release a near polished product with only cosmetic and edge case bugs.
Agreed. I stopped doing this for new releases a long time ago. The only exceptions I have are regarding the occasional limited run gaming release for something I've already played before.
Don't
Pre-ordering is dumb. Look at what people have to say about it the first couple of days, then buy it, or don't.
Why do you wanna pre-order? Games donāt run out of stock like they used to
No. Never prorder there is zero reason to
Do not
Why would you preorder? What will it give you over just buying when it releases?
Pre ordering games is dumb, has always been dumb, and is even more dumb now in the digital age and games needing 50 million patches before being anywhere near a playable state.
It hasn't ALWAYS been dumb. Only since the switch from physical to digital games.
Eva boobs and Ocelot smiles in modern graphics
Don't pre-order any game.
Nah, donāt pre-order, mgs3 is my favourite game ever but I need to check the reviews first.
Never preorder games. Never preorder single player games.
"When you pre-order a game, youāre just committing to paying for something that some a**ho**s in California havenāt even finished working on yet. You know what you get for pre-ordering a game? A big d**k in your mouth."
I cannot, and so I shan't.
I mean did you just try to counter your own point with this screenshot?
OMG! It must of been in my subconscious bro hahaha
No.
Realistically you shouldnāt pre-order. That goes for practically every title as you never know whatās going to be broken day one. It makes for a lesser experience or a literally unplayable one. Donāt burn money and thatās not just Konami, apply that to everything. Never pre-order. Never pre-order unless you can say with confidence that the product is functional. These things cost money and your money shouldnāt be burnt. As someone who loves MGS3 Iām excited. I like what I see, but even Iām not pre-ordering until I see a little more. Confidence is key.
What do you gain from preordering?
Gay sex with Volgin rhythm minigame
Sokolov pissing himself in 4k ultra hd. But earlier than the people not insane enoughto pre-order something.
Eva in UE5.
Why are you guys still pre-ordering digital games? Make it make sense?
I can give you a plenty of reasons why NOT to pre-order this or any other game for that matter.
Dont pre order anything dude wait for reviews.
Donāt preorder games!!
Never preorder.
Dont preorder games...
Seriously never understood preordering anything
Itās Konami, so itās an automatic no
More like hell no
The last thing I pre-ordered was Suicide Squad..
Oh no brother!!!
Iāll give you a reason not to instead: I feel like youāre already on the fence about it.
No reason to pre order
Never preorder, no matter the game.
never preorder games, wait for a day or a week after release!!! making a cool trailer is easier than making a good game, just look at the day before as an example
Good thinking there!!!
At this day and time, Pre orders are the wrong move.
Remember those Eric Cartman's wise words : "Do you know what you really get from pre-ordering? A big cock in your mouth."
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You get to eat snakes!
Ocelot meowing in 4k
The steel book looks sick as fuck!
Mom would be sad
Realistic Rambo Simulator
Because you are clearly a fan.
If anything I am Team Kojima
Same. But so far I would say they are doing everything right. Iām very hopeful that Konami are not fucking up this time.
The only reason i could see is showing support. To maybe get mgs1 remade.. but that's a crap reason to take risks.
First off, as everyone else here said, as a rule, never preorder anything. They don't even have a release date. They retracted November 17 already. Doesn't bode well.
From what I can search online, Konami started in 2021 so probably another year to wait
Uhh, donāt? Pre ordering sets a bad precedent and companies will continue to do it so long as the stock of people who do so continue to game. Itās an old habit the gaming industry needs to shake off
Get in the box. š¦ Then youāll know.
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"Man, I don't wanna know what you mean!"
Pre-ordering any digital media is some Gonk behavior.
snake will be in it
None. Wait till it's out and see if the reviews are good. You're not missing out on anything.
I donāt have anything against pre ordering, I just donāt really want to pay $70 for a 1:1 remake of a game I can already play on modern platforms
This and silent hill 2 remake look incredible as much as I hate buying day 1 I will have to
I've never pre-ordered a game since the move to digital. They will always sell the preorder stuff eventually, and it's not like they will run out of copies.
don't pre order any game even if its fucking RDR2 if you were around then don't pre order.
Metal Gear!
Only pre-order things if you're looking to get the goodies, I pre-ordered Assassin's Creed Mirage and almost a year later I still haven't even booted it up yet because I know modern day games never release in a finished state and always need like fifty patches before they're playable. The reason I pre-ordered was the badass Basim statue and other bonuses like the brooch, art book and CD. I never intended to play on release, if I did I wouldn't have pre-ordered since my preorder arrived like a week or two after launch anyway. I think even buying a game at launch is a waste of money, paying the full Ā£60 is honestly highway robbery. You wait until it's dropped to at least Ā£30 then you get a cheaper game with all the patches to make it better.
Don't. Wait for reviews and then decide.
I would only preorder if you want the steelbook from the Deluxe edition for collection reasons, and still, I would not open it until I see reviews confirming it is not another CP 2077 so I can sell it if I decide to.
Don't preorder anything. Ever.
The only reason I see is if you want the collectors edition. Other than that there's never any reason to preorder games. As others have said, you should always wait for reviews and the inevitable patches (because studios just cash-grab without delivering on the promises made to gamers).
I wouldn't pre-order, wait for launch and for the reviews first. It's not like the story can get spoiled for you, better to just guarantee the game releases in a good state without major scandals.
Yeah we already know the story hahaha hahaha I had a good laff here
Never pre-order any game!
HOLD THE LINE!
Have we learned nothing, stop preordering games.
Do you \*want\* to preorder the game? Because either you do or don't, if you don't I'm not gonna try to convince you and if you do you don't need a reason from me.
Do not pre-order.
Never Pre-order. This used to make sense when you had to physically buy a game, nowadays itās just a scam to borrow money from gamers.
No. Don't preorder.
I canāt. Still have the Legacy Collection on PS3 with every game and am still currently enjoy it from time to time. In fact about to start another full play through of all games. No need to preorder to buy the āmasterā collection for that matter.
I've used pre ordering in the past because it lets you pay in installments. That's always been my reason, but I've only pre-ordered RGG games.
There is no reason to pre order anything digital, they aren't gonna run outta copies, and you dont know what the actual product will b e like till release.
Definitely hoping to preorder it when I can
if you're already gonna buy the game no harm in pre-ordering it
You shouldnāt preorder anything, you shouldnāt reward developers for a product they havenāt delivered yet. That being said, I have absolutely preordered this because I have been wanting a remake of 3 for years now and I am willing to accept the consequences of my poorly thought out decisions. Do not follow my actions. As The Boss said: āNever mind what I didā
There isn't one, don't fucking preorder shit
so you can bitch when it turns out Konami pulled a Resident Evil 3 Remake on the game after you spent a premium on it.
I'm from a rich family so I can just preorder this shit immediately do it if u have money
Don't preorder, but if you want a reason, Snake model is hot af holy shit.
I'm still thinking about pre-ordering until more information is released. that's why we haven't gotten a release date yet when they can still fixing and testing the game out before it's ready. I'm hoping they are working in a not so tight deadline compared to alot of game devs but I think that an industry norm.
Mgs V is probably still going to be better than this
There is no reason in the year of our Lord 2024 to ever preorder a damn thing. Wait for release, wait for reviews.
preorder will likely have some digital artwork or maybe even a sneaking suit that will be available on the marketplace apart from preorder.
I assume Konami will do this... I really hope they release a DEMO too!!!
Everyone says don't pre-order games because they can be buggy messes, and it's usually true. But MGS is my favorite franchise and MGS3 is one of my all-time favorite games. Even if I have to wait for the bugs to be patched to play it, there's no scenario in which I never buy this game. I'm even planning to get the ultimate edition.
Don't
Never preorder. Check the reviews and public opinion before you buy any game. These days so many games are released too soon and need months of patches. Personally I play my backlog and wait for games to reach their final state.
never pre order anything ever
Thanks Mommy hehe
You will get to see volgin grab snakes balls in 4k.
Do what you want, people pre-order all the time. I pre-ordered because I want the game delivered to me day one, I rather do it now rather than later, your preference.
Itās a Metal Gear game
Itās MGS3. Thatās it. Thats all thatās needed.
I am pretty close to buying it along with Stellar Blade on Target because they have buy one game and get one 50% off. If I don't like it, I can sell it for $55-60.
Really even new titles? I didn't know Target did that š²š²
Iād personally wait for a month or two to see other peopleās thoughts on the game before I buy it. Or even wait until it gets on sale. I personally donāt really dig with preordering.
Yeah wait for reviews and game patches... probably end up playing a friend's copy first hahaha
Imagine they give the infinite bandana as a preorder bonus and include a battlepass to unlock other cosmetics. Or better yet, hear me out, each level is a seperate dlc. Oh and.....lootboxes. /s
The clap of Snake's asscheeks keep alerting the guards. Seriously tho: don't pre-order anything and especially don't pre-order anything from a company with a recent track record like Konami's.
Donāt preorder games
Sounds to me youāre just sounding like a bot and will play it regardless
Dont preorder ever.
Yes boss!
do not pre order something people havent criticised nor tested yet. unless you arent a collector, at all cost dont buy it, not even from a company that would prefer making money than games.
Yeah not preordering any collector's sets... just gonna wait till it is actually released LOL
I canāt. Currently playing through the Legacy collection on PS3. Thatās all you need. šÆ
Itās BOGO at Target. Buy two, cancel one, get it for 50.Ā
Eva cave scene
Don't perorder. Wait until the price drops, then Buy. And also, I'd consider getting this bc it'll most likely come with the online mode that was discontinued in the original version.
Never preorder.
Generally, I think pre-ordering of any game should be avoided
Most are saying donāt and thatās a valid option. Donāt pre order. But if you want to, the game looks like a fantastic recreation of the OG
Yeah going to wait for more info and game reviews
NEVER PREORDER
Snakes cheeks in 4k
PLEASE DONT PREORDER. even for games that you are sure you're going to like, preorders and they way they are being abused for willing payers are a cancer and we need to show the "industry" that they cant pull shit like that anymore, were are not paypigs!
New Big Boss Crying/Salute gif.
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Don't.
None, wait till they release it. And buy it only when it's clear the game is good.
Yeah... it just feels like a mere skin job with MGS5 controls to me... but maybe I am wrong
Thats because theyre NOT doing mocap to go with it. I get down voted a lot but its the truth. Mgs3 was good because of the mocap, if you Look at delta the lips move all wrong, the cqc is off, like they didnt motion capture anything just animated a skin job. Theres a part in the trailer where snake throws an ocelot unit but does the judo wrong...... Anyone can animate and make stuff look pretty but without the motion capture with the fidelity to go with it will look funky and off. Like snakes torso in delta, looks like a upside down triangle theres no real life fidelity to it. Look at his left hand thumb, it looks cool from far away , his pose and all but the thumb is like more than half as long as his index finger.......
Yeah I am taking a beating here too but still enjoying the topic
I feel delta is a big sham. I myself am not going to pre-order or buy. Im a metal gear fan, not a kojima fan, so i feel if the quality is good id come back to it. But the quality is just not there. Does it look cool in unreal engine 5? Yes it does. Does it feel like quality, NO. Just look at the actual mgs3 motion cap. You can tell how good the game is because of the effort. They didn't animate something some dude sitting in computer mouth breathing thought looked "Tactic cool" , no. They hired actual gun spinning guys, actual fight choreography. Delta is all about the looks but its the devil in the details that made metal gear solid 3 so good Just look at that sexy motion capture. Its like they filmed a movie then made it a game.... https://youtu.be/vcZ6l-JSa5g?si=MiWsXjS9NqJsUMm_ Its ok if Konami wants to hype up their game, i dont blame them But the konami business model has been [investing into pachinko ](https://youtu.be/ziwuudqfLxY?si=vFubiCZBGEfZhoEN) Having David hayter say " we kept all the original voice acting !" Means squat when you dont do things right. Id rather not have david hater but get all the time effort and quality of the original.
MGS cutscenes used to have almost theatrical feel to them. Without either attention to detail or understanding it they can easily mess up how the whole game feels.
in this day and age where almost every game is digital, you dont need to preorder, there is unlimited stock of the 1s and 0s that form the game.
Don't preorder. Never preorder. No preorders make the gaming industry healthier.
Yeah I am not going to... gonna wait
Rule 1 NEVER pre-order any game.
Yeah this thread is telling me this right but I reckon the masses still do it
Yes I was also thinking the masses still do it (and for me it does) but maybe the MGS community is smarter !
Don't. There is almost never a good reason to preorder any game imo
WOWā¦ I guess preorders no longer a thing nowadays
Nuke Dukem Forever Assassins Creed Unity Watch Dogs Batman Arkham Knight Fallout 76 No Man's Sky Cyberpunk 2077 Star Wars Battlefront II GTA: Definitive trilogy These are just the ones from the top of my head but do I need to say more?
Tekken 8 to add to the list
Do I really need it???
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Is it odd that Iām on the fence?! šµāš«
Unless you really want one of the special Editions, there is no need to pre-order.
Nahhh not getting any special sets and I guess I can always purchase the Art Book elsewhere
Fallout 76 was the last game I preorder, overpaid for stuff that ended up being free a month after that POS came out, never preordering again.
Uhh yeah I donāt think you should pre-order just yet we donāt even have a release date. Iām usually against pre-ordering unless I know for sure the game will be great. The last game I pre-ordered was RE4 Remake and before that, Elden Ring.
Be patient. There is zero point to preordering anything ever. Frankly if you wait a few months after release the game will probably have more patches/content.
Yup that is what I did with Master Collection
Honestly if itās not limited thereās really no reason to pre order
I never preorder stuff. Not even if it's something I really like. There's always the chance something is gonna be fucked up
Why would anyone pre-order
Don't pre-order shit
Don't if you don't want to. Do if you do.
snake bussy
I would like to point out snakes left hand thumb. WHAT THE HELL is that? Is this AI Generated?
The Game doesn't even have a release date and you can pre order. Don't you want to give your money to a corporation that takes your money before they can give a vague release window.
My current collection is his, Iāve been using his ip to get free shit. Thanks stranger;)
Snake is hot
Do what you want
Because
I seriously don't understand why anyoine would preorder any game.Ā
Gotta.
You want to?
kojima
I want the terrerium
Because MGS3 is one of the best games of all time.
Think of just how good Graninās shoes will look
You should just get it for free after the Russians do their thing
If the catch is good what's in it for the player?
[https://youtu.be/AV69DyOuzbE](https://youtu.be/AV69DyOuzbE)
what a thrill?
we don't care lol
Pre-ordering is the modern day stupidity tax
Never pre-order games.