đđđ he looks like heâs about to ask me if I ever tried growing my own weed, have I heard of NFTs, or have I tried the new IPA at Paco Canyonistaâs brewery.
I have a hair-trigger reaction to the word "acceptance" now apparently.
So much of the time people use it to mean "this person would never say anything mean to you and would never hurt you emotionally at all ever" which is just...not who Jesus is.
He called you out when you did things that are wrong. He had a conversation with James and John who wanted to call fire from Heaven to smite people who were rude to them.
Jesus is always perfect. That does not mean He is always gentle, or that He does not correct you.
How does any of that counter the word acceptance? Jesus said love was the most important thing. Yes he went off at temple flipping tables, but at what point did he not accept anybody? He told us how to behave, but made it very clear that anyone and everyone was wanted and pursued by God. Everyone is accepted If they followed him.
I'm not arguing. I'm trying to understand how the word acceptance triggers you regarding Jesus. He was definitely about love and acceptance.
Jesus' last words were "Forgive them, for they know not what they do." He forgave his own murderers.
Jesus surrounded himself with ignorant young people (Jesus 12 followers) who were sinning and he only told them how things worked. Every newborn human being first needs freedom to make mistakes, to develop, to learn to act independently and to make voluntary decisions for the good. Jesus brought us the understanding of balance within a society (The New Light). Children are born selfish (personal side), they cannot yet fully empathize with others, they need freedom, which is why adults are needed who sacrifice their own and concentrate on the other sides (factual side, appeal side, relationship side). And since people in the Puberty to become a selfish rebel/sinner (personal page Appeal side) tend, you then need those who take the opposite (factual side, relationship side). This knowledge is the way, the salvation.
We are forced to want what we want. And forced to do what we think is right. Knowledge and intelligence lead to one's own conscience forcing one. (That's why at the end of the intelligence scale there are only people who see everything the same way) Jesus only preached the truth about how things affect each other.
Jesus' "last" words, weren't His last words at all. His last words before He died, but there's an important caveat in the fact that, oh right, He's \*not dead anymore\*.
He preaches how things were. Which includes Him being God, and it includes mankind's complete inability to be saved by their own power.
He has offered us true life. How we were meant to live. We're trapped in a cage of mortality.
Knowledge does nothing without the ability to act on it.
>He accepts everyone,
Everything else you said is accurate. Sincerely happy for you. Just can't figure out how the word acceptance is triggering If you think it is also accurate.
It's when people are like "Jesus accepted everyone" most often they're using a pop culture Jesus, and now how Jesus actually is.
It's one or the other. Either He is God, or He isn't. I believe He is, and thus, He has rules. You don't get to come to Him and yet stay in your sin.
And religion is "Faultless "Divine power" organized by man", and that's just one of thousands of, "*really?" reactions.*
I remember my reaction when I heard Jesus was considered another prophet among the Muslims. Pretty much "then wtf is the problem, here?".
It also used to be a racial term that included Europeans, North Africans, and different asiatic groups such as Arabs and Indians. Now itâs seen as an outdated term (despite white, black and Asian being hundred times worse as racial quantifiers) but Semitic hebrews would have been labeled as Caucasian. So Yoki_Tran asking why isnât the picture of a Semitic Jew from Asia Minor isnât Caucasian does not make sense.Â
I was just kidding. I don't think anyone these days uses old Pliny's appropriated Scythian meaning, nor Blumenbach's phrenological nonsense. These days it's just used to mean, "white folks." Another sciencey way of distinguishing between "races," without making it absolutely clear that you're combining a very narrow band of morphological traits with ignorance.
> Now itâs seen as an outdated term
It has the same scientific validity now as it had in the 1830s: none at all. It was a made-up way of dividing humans into four (five? I forget,) groups, based on arbitrary features of skulls. I think that one of the groups was represented by a single skull. Not even shoddy science--it was pure pseudoscience. Exactly as valid as the Nazi concept of an "Aryan" race, or our modern fantasies about Vikings. Calling such taxonomies "outmoded, " or "outdated" ignores the central reality that they are all total fiction. One pseudoscience is just as far from science any other, it's just that some have better PR.
> despite white, black and Asian being hundred times worse as racial quantifiers...
I disagree. They are equally as meaningless, in terms of biological science. Much better, in terms of simply describing a person's pigtail appearance. (Step up your game, and use Pantone codes for who you want your daughter to date!) They are not biologically incomplete or outdated ways to describe populations, they are biologically meaningless.
I hate the word Caucasian used for this but it's so popular for some reason. "White" does exactly the same and it's much more straightforward. "Caucasian" has that euphemism ring to it like "oh look I'm avoiding the word white I'm so fancy and correct." Most importantly, "Caucasian" should be used for the people of the Caucasus, it's literally the name. White people don't come from the Caucasus.
I mean that concept of race doesn't really mean anything so I don't mind using whatever. Negroid, black, mongoloid, east asian... They're terms used for whenever it's useful to group people who share certain characteristics. Neither negroid nor black tell me if a person is Niger congo, bantu, Nilotic, etc, which are real ethnic groups. "White" also doesn't tell me if we're talking Germanic, Slavic, etc, but both terms can be useful to talk about social situations and whatnot. My point is race is not really based on biology, ethnicity is, so it matters very little if there's an official term. I would say just use what is convenient.
My issue is with the term Caucasian specifically because it's just silly, the Caucasus mountains have little to nothing to do with the ethnic origins of what we consider white people.
So if there is no such thing as race, then ethnicity is the highest categorization of humanity? That doesnât seem right.Â
Why is Caucasoid more silly than Mongoloid?
Highest categorization? Never said that and it's hard to define that. I just know it's something that exists in biology, you can get a piece of DNA and trace a person's ancestry. Honestly I overlooked mongoloid but it's just as silly. It never bothered me too much because people rarely ever use it (I even forgot it exists) while people say Caucasian ALL the time.
Why would I? Though, yeah, I misremembered, I guess it's only exhibited in Italy and originally actually French, and from Northern France at that, so I guess they wouldn't be quite that Mediterranean looking.
I wasn't born in the Caucasus Mountains but I'm still Caucasian as all shit.
To be clear, Christ was likely not Caucasian, but Caucasians were in far more places than the Caucasus Mountains even 2000 years ago. At that time even most Persians, Northern Indians, and Tocharians were all Caucasian despite not being what we today call "white." Over the next few centuries there would even be a bunch of Germannic tribes scattered all over North Africa.
I find the term "Caucasian" misleading because I automatically think of the people in the Caucasus Mountains and not of a certain skin colour.
I, for example, have never heard this term in my life. I live in Germany.
I suspect it is only used in the USA today.
I don't see why he necessarily couldn't have existed. Why couldn't it have been like modern cult leaders, where there was definitely a guy called by his name, who (intentionally or unintentionally) created a large cult and made up fantastical stories to justify following him to his cult members. Then later his cult members expanded on the stories, and that for hundreds of years, messing up some details in translation and adding more and more fantastical elements
This is pretty cool.
The Shroud has a special place in my heart, because my Mom and Grandma used to have some heated arguments about whether or not the Shroud was âreal.â Grandma actually threw an ashtray in anger. Good times.
>It's 100% fake.
[There is still much controversy about the tested samples.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dating_of_the_Shroud_of_Turin).
I always thought the Shroud of Turin was a reference to the blanket of smog that used to cover the city.
There you go, I've shared something with you today.
Nah nah, thatâs the Big Cheese God. With one giant rip, he cut the cosmic cheese, spreading new world and life with every molecule of His flatulence.
Jesus just came around later teaching ppl the importance of hygiene, like washing feet, becoming the Savior of humankind from Stench
Thanks, I guess not everyone appreciates my humorous (?) attempt to point out Jesus isnât the creator, God is the Creator, Jesus the Savior according to the Bible lol
I never said I didnât not believe in God, because I donât believe in God. Just pointing out OP mislabeled Jesus as Creator, which is incorrect in Christianity đ
There is no randomness in genetics. Rick Beato may have been descended from someone in Mary's family.
There are only so many combinations of facial features you can get before things start repeating.
So the creator is a Jew from Palestine that was born 2000+ years ago. So much for the Earth being only 6000 years old then if the creator didn't come around until 4000 years later.
Youâre missing a lot of lore there. I get not believing in Christianity but you gotta do it from a place of understanding. This way makes you look very uninformed
He works at my local coffee shop.
And wears a rolled beanie
He does? He's been my weed dealer for ages.
He gets us
He gets us coffee
That's good, lol. You should pitch that commercial to them. They'd probably use it
By turning water into coffee?
And he sells weed super cheap and of good quality.
He has his app alongside Mark Wahlberg.
đđđ he looks like heâs about to ask me if I ever tried growing my own weed, have I heard of NFTs, or have I tried the new IPA at Paco Canyonistaâs brewery.
major Thorin Oakenshield vibes
Nah, thatâs Sayid from LOST.
I thought of Desmond at first... Considering Henry Ian Cusick has portrayed Jesus...
Wait. Sayid is Jesus? Cool.
Mmm. Gives me fingernail torture flashbacks
The actor was Indian thoughâŚ
That is absolutely the type of person Jesus would be. I get nothing but good vibes and acceptance from this image.
I have a hair-trigger reaction to the word "acceptance" now apparently. So much of the time people use it to mean "this person would never say anything mean to you and would never hurt you emotionally at all ever" which is just...not who Jesus is. He called you out when you did things that are wrong. He had a conversation with James and John who wanted to call fire from Heaven to smite people who were rude to them. Jesus is always perfect. That does not mean He is always gentle, or that He does not correct you.
Got so pissed he was literally flipping tables that one time
exactly.
How does any of that counter the word acceptance? Jesus said love was the most important thing. Yes he went off at temple flipping tables, but at what point did he not accept anybody? He told us how to behave, but made it very clear that anyone and everyone was wanted and pursued by God. Everyone is accepted If they followed him. I'm not arguing. I'm trying to understand how the word acceptance triggers you regarding Jesus. He was definitely about love and acceptance.
He accepts everyone, but He also does not allow us to stay how we are. I have gone through much change since I accepted Him.
Jesus' last words were "Forgive them, for they know not what they do." He forgave his own murderers. Jesus surrounded himself with ignorant young people (Jesus 12 followers) who were sinning and he only told them how things worked. Every newborn human being first needs freedom to make mistakes, to develop, to learn to act independently and to make voluntary decisions for the good. Jesus brought us the understanding of balance within a society (The New Light). Children are born selfish (personal side), they cannot yet fully empathize with others, they need freedom, which is why adults are needed who sacrifice their own and concentrate on the other sides (factual side, appeal side, relationship side). And since people in the Puberty to become a selfish rebel/sinner (personal page Appeal side) tend, you then need those who take the opposite (factual side, relationship side). This knowledge is the way, the salvation. We are forced to want what we want. And forced to do what we think is right. Knowledge and intelligence lead to one's own conscience forcing one. (That's why at the end of the intelligence scale there are only people who see everything the same way) Jesus only preached the truth about how things affect each other.
Jesus' "last" words, weren't His last words at all. His last words before He died, but there's an important caveat in the fact that, oh right, He's \*not dead anymore\*. He preaches how things were. Which includes Him being God, and it includes mankind's complete inability to be saved by their own power. He has offered us true life. How we were meant to live. We're trapped in a cage of mortality. Knowledge does nothing without the ability to act on it.
>He accepts everyone, Everything else you said is accurate. Sincerely happy for you. Just can't figure out how the word acceptance is triggering If you think it is also accurate.
It's when people are like "Jesus accepted everyone" most often they're using a pop culture Jesus, and now how Jesus actually is. It's one or the other. Either He is God, or He isn't. I believe He is, and thus, He has rules. You don't get to come to Him and yet stay in your sin.
I believe the word you are looking for is admonish. Jesus admonished others.
Thank you. Yes.
The Jesus in the Chosen series looks and mostly acts like that.
There's definitly an irony that Christian fundamentalist worship a middle eastern prophet.
And religion is "Faultless "Divine power" organized by man", and that's just one of thousands of, "*really?" reactions.* I remember my reaction when I heard Jesus was considered another prophet among the Muslims. Pretty much "then wtf is the problem, here?".
Thats actually really impressive, always wondered what the shroud's imprint would look like as a person
Agree with you.
Don't you mean the shroud's painting?
why isnât he Caucasian.? i am JK
i am Jesus Krist ?!
What do you think Caucasian is?
Uh... someone from Georgia, Azerbaijan, or Armenia?
It also used to be a racial term that included Europeans, North Africans, and different asiatic groups such as Arabs and Indians. Now itâs seen as an outdated term (despite white, black and Asian being hundred times worse as racial quantifiers) but Semitic hebrews would have been labeled as Caucasian. So Yoki_Tran asking why isnât the picture of a Semitic Jew from Asia Minor isnât Caucasian does not make sense.Â
I was just kidding. I don't think anyone these days uses old Pliny's appropriated Scythian meaning, nor Blumenbach's phrenological nonsense. These days it's just used to mean, "white folks." Another sciencey way of distinguishing between "races," without making it absolutely clear that you're combining a very narrow band of morphological traits with ignorance. > Now itâs seen as an outdated term It has the same scientific validity now as it had in the 1830s: none at all. It was a made-up way of dividing humans into four (five? I forget,) groups, based on arbitrary features of skulls. I think that one of the groups was represented by a single skull. Not even shoddy science--it was pure pseudoscience. Exactly as valid as the Nazi concept of an "Aryan" race, or our modern fantasies about Vikings. Calling such taxonomies "outmoded, " or "outdated" ignores the central reality that they are all total fiction. One pseudoscience is just as far from science any other, it's just that some have better PR. > despite white, black and Asian being hundred times worse as racial quantifiers... I disagree. They are equally as meaningless, in terms of biological science. Much better, in terms of simply describing a person's pigtail appearance. (Step up your game, and use Pantone codes for who you want your daughter to date!) They are not biologically incomplete or outdated ways to describe populations, they are biologically meaningless.
Why didn't the "white" Americans just say they have "European ancestry"? Why "Caucasian"?
Light skinned of European ancestory.
I hate the word Caucasian used for this but it's so popular for some reason. "White" does exactly the same and it's much more straightforward. "Caucasian" has that euphemism ring to it like "oh look I'm avoiding the word white I'm so fancy and correct." Most importantly, "Caucasian" should be used for the people of the Caucasus, it's literally the name. White people don't come from the Caucasus.
If you think Caucasoid, Negroid, and mongoloid are outdated terms, than what terms should people use to differentiate race?
Super toon extraordinaire Caucasoid, Caucasoid Runs around in underwear Caucasoid, Caucasoid
I mean that concept of race doesn't really mean anything so I don't mind using whatever. Negroid, black, mongoloid, east asian... They're terms used for whenever it's useful to group people who share certain characteristics. Neither negroid nor black tell me if a person is Niger congo, bantu, Nilotic, etc, which are real ethnic groups. "White" also doesn't tell me if we're talking Germanic, Slavic, etc, but both terms can be useful to talk about social situations and whatnot. My point is race is not really based on biology, ethnicity is, so it matters very little if there's an official term. I would say just use what is convenient. My issue is with the term Caucasian specifically because it's just silly, the Caucasus mountains have little to nothing to do with the ethnic origins of what we consider white people.
So if there is no such thing as race, then ethnicity is the highest categorization of humanity? That doesnât seem right. Why is Caucasoid more silly than Mongoloid?
Highest categorization? Never said that and it's hard to define that. I just know it's something that exists in biology, you can get a piece of DNA and trace a person's ancestry. Honestly I overlooked mongoloid but it's just as silly. It never bothered me too much because people rarely ever use it (I even forgot it exists) while people say Caucasian ALL the time.
Doesn't look impossible for an Italian, which is probably what he was?
I have never heard that theory, nor can I find it on the first couple of pages when I google it. Did you make it up?
Why would I? Though, yeah, I misremembered, I guess it's only exhibited in Italy and originally actually French, and from Northern France at that, so I guess they wouldn't be quite that Mediterranean looking.
>Â Why would I? This is Reddit. It wouldnât even nearly be the most unusual thing that Iâll see today.
Right. Still not sure why thinking it was Italian instead of French originally gave me that many downvotes.
I guess itâs not a widely known theory? This is the first im hearing of it
It's.. quite well documented? The Wikipedia article even starts with it.
TIL Middle Eastern Palestinian= Italian by some deniers
Rather unlikely in 13th century France.
The Shroud of Turin 100% did *not* come from the Middle East nor did it ever contain the body of Christ. Soz
Cool. I'm talking about the actual person, though, not a fake picture coming out of Italy.
And the person youâre responding to is talking about the person in the image in the Shroud of Turin.
OK.
Because he was born in the Middle East (Bethlehem) and not in the Caucasus Mountains đ¤¨.
I wasn't born in the Caucasus Mountains but I'm still Caucasian as all shit. To be clear, Christ was likely not Caucasian, but Caucasians were in far more places than the Caucasus Mountains even 2000 years ago. At that time even most Persians, Northern Indians, and Tocharians were all Caucasian despite not being what we today call "white." Over the next few centuries there would even be a bunch of Germannic tribes scattered all over North Africa.
I find the term "Caucasian" misleading because I automatically think of the people in the Caucasus Mountains and not of a certain skin colour. I, for example, have never heard this term in my life. I live in Germany. I suspect it is only used in the USA today.
The term was *literally* coined in Germany. University of GĂśttingen to be precise.
Then you are quite ill-informed.
He wasnât born anywhere hahahaha. He never existed. Itâs all nonsense stories.
I don't see why he necessarily couldn't have existed. Why couldn't it have been like modern cult leaders, where there was definitely a guy called by his name, who (intentionally or unintentionally) created a large cult and made up fantastical stories to justify following him to his cult members. Then later his cult members expanded on the stories, and that for hundreds of years, messing up some details in translation and adding more and more fantastical elements
This is pretty cool. The Shroud has a special place in my heart, because my Mom and Grandma used to have some heated arguments about whether or not the Shroud was âreal.â Grandma actually threw an ashtray in anger. Good times.
Radiocarbon dating from several(!) independent labs showed that it was made in between the years 1260 and 1390. Itâs 100% fake.
God altered the amount of šâ´C in the Shroud in order to test grannies' faith. Hey, it's far easier to believe than Jesus popping out of a virgin.
Correct, and dinosaurs were created in the ground to test our faith because Earth is 5000 years old.
Real unicorns are pink.
>It's 100% fake. [There is still much controversy about the tested samples.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dating_of_the_Shroud_of_Turin).
Of course. Christians will fight to the death to protect their fake trinkets.
Who thought it was real and who thought that it was fake?
Assuming grandma thought it was real because she's old and superstitious.
Correct.
She wasnât being a very good example of a Christian.
So, it was good memories because that fight only or reminds to you something else?
I was being sarcastic. It was not actually a good memory.
I always thought the Shroud of Turin was a reference to the blanket of smog that used to cover the city. There you go, I've shared something with you today.
Coffee Seller , Weed Dealer , Hobo , Graphic Designer , Actor from Lost etc .. "He works in ways we cannot see"
An artisan, most likely.
Is Jesus Crist Creator? From when?
That doesnât look like Tyler the Creator
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Read some Richard Dawkins and call me in the morning: delusion has a good prognosis, you're in luck
Ever since his cult infected the world
Nah nah, thatâs the Big Cheese God. With one giant rip, he cut the cosmic cheese, spreading new world and life with every molecule of His flatulence. Jesus just came around later teaching ppl the importance of hygiene, like washing feet, becoming the Savior of humankind from Stench
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Thanks, I guess not everyone appreciates my humorous (?) attempt to point out Jesus isnât the creator, God is the Creator, Jesus the Savior according to the Bible lol
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I never said I didnât not believe in God, because I donât believe in God. Just pointing out OP mislabeled Jesus as Creator, which is incorrect in Christianity đ
Since the beginning of time or, depending on your point of view, since the Council of Nicaea in AD 325.
I think he was a carpenter
That was a cool idea.
Honest question: Why both images are different between them? Different approach? Also, likes the 1st one better.
Same prompt. Different results.
Thanks.
Not to be ironic or anything, but the first picture is kind of reminiscent of young Rick Beato...
Cannot unsee
What makes this shroud great?
There is no randomness in genetics. Rick Beato may have been descended from someone in Mary's family. There are only so many combinations of facial features you can get before things start repeating.
He makes overpriced burgers at a place down by the beach. They come with a knife stuck in them.
Dude sold me my first weed.
I'll have three weed, my good man!
This is not my white clad Christ I renounce lmao
I loved his guitar solo on âBlack Hole Sunâ
Would.
This isn't blasphemy, it's blasfuckme.
Judge me harder daddy
Wait a minute, this ain't Jesus!!! Jesus is WHITE and RIPPED. And I KNOW this because I used to be a MORMON. Checkmate ATHEISTS!
Why do so many people think that Levantine people are dark? They're not
Some are, others aren't
Many before invasions/migrations from paler peoples were tanned. Get over it.
Second one is zombie Jesus 3 days later.
Fuck ya I'm so hard for zombie Jesus.
I guess that makes you a Christian
Oh no not again
Jesus of Hipstoria
So the creator is a Jew from Palestine that was born 2000+ years ago. So much for the Earth being only 6000 years old then if the creator didn't come around until 4000 years later.
Youâre missing a lot of lore there. I get not believing in Christianity but you gotta do it from a place of understanding. This way makes you look very uninformed
I don't know a lot about The Hobbit universe either but I know it's just as fanciful and fictional.
Either way your earlier comment just made you look foolish more than anything. But it doesnât matter
Try Chabal (rugby man)
Funny he doesnât look like Ted Nugent
Jesus Christ!Â
Knew it. It's keanu
Hmm, a Palestine.
Kind of a Sam Elliott vibe, pardner.
Seems a bit far-fetched
But Jaysus was âMurican and White God-dangit!! (/s just in case)
Hobo and hobo
Second one looks a bit like Robin Williams.
You sure that ain't Cam Cole?
That first pis isn't just Jake Gyllenhall?
**There can be only oneâŚ** 100% Adrian Paul from The Highlander television series.
oh my, seems the Lord was heavenly hot *blushes*
He's not the creator, he's just a very naughty boy!
Itâs my barber named Shlomo.
Iâm pretty sure I attended his last concert. Nice gig!
Jonathan van Ness?
Waingro
zach mcgowan vibes
Always hot Jesus
On no, heâs hot.
It's Seth Rollins!
Jason Schwartzman
Its John Warhammer!
Played by Adrien Brody
Looks like Edward Norton with a beard
Put out an APB
I saw him playing with his heavy metal band
Keanu Reeves with beard. Very interesting.
The second one is Christian Bale right? I mean, right?
Manson in his festival going years.
Seems legit.