No it's not, the 14th-century Persian chronicler Rashid al-Din, who claimed Genghis had red hair and green eyes. Al-Din’s account is questionable—he never met the Khan in person. This is like some Pope in 10 century claimed Jesus is white
I went down a research rabbit hole on this one..
You're right that Rashid al-Din never met Chinggis/Genghis in person. In that account, the word interpreted by some as "red-haired" is the word *ruddy*. That word is used in both of the primary translations of Rashid al-Din's *Jami al-Tawarikh*.
In the original Persian text, the word transliterated into *ruddy* is the Persian word *ashgarani*. This word has potentially two meanings: "red-colored horse" or "man of white and red features." The context of the passage is that Chinggis/Genghis is being compared to Khubilai Khan, his grandson. They are describing Khubilai as dark-skinned. A contrast of red-haired to dark-skinned would also not make sense. The comparison would have been Genghis's red-cheeked/reddish complexion to Khubilai's darker skin tone (due to Khubilai's mother's people).
For the green eyes, that is also up for debate. The word used for green eyes could be interpreted as yellow, Grey, or simply *dark-eyed.*
I think this is an instance where people have looked at the text and choosing what they wanted to see in it.
So i'm still technically correct because we have a historical account of the hair and eyes and literally everything else in that image looks made up (armor etc.).
Also a pope ten centuries removed from Jesus' time and a chronicler living not even a century after Ghengis Khan are two very different levels of questionable.
Al-Din literally wrote that while in the court of one of Genghis Khan’s descendants. He is the best source we have for what Genghis Khan looked like, and we know that a lot of his grandchildren had red hair and green eyes.
Extremely fascinating reign, her charm & influence. Her relationship with such great leaders (Ceasar & Mark) loved her high fashion influence to Rome at the time. Truly one of a kind
Cleopatra was the product of many generations of incestuous royal breeding. She was wicked smart and charming, but had manly features and a large hooked nose. She was not a Midjourney thot. It’s a fun fantasy though :)
Source: https://www.history.com/news/10-little-known-facts-about-cleopatra
I liked HBO's Rome's Cleopatra, not accurate exactly to her appearance, but she's so *ordinary* looking and carries it entirely with presence
the way she is unrolled in front of Caesar looking disheveled, dusts herself off, then walks over to him and holds out her hand and demands it be kissed was an amazing portrayal
which is how it should be, now Cleopatra's less flattering features were probably exaggerated by a lot of Romans, since she was foreign, but a lot of depictions of her show her as pretty, average even, if having a large nose, but regardless, nearly every source said that if she was in a room, she was who everyone was paying attention to.
I think of Freddie Mercury, who is even less conventionally attractive than even the unfair depictions of Cleopatra were, but the man could command hundreds of thousands of people's attention with ease - a clear demonstration of why Charisma in RPGs is NOT "hotness"
[Me](https://media4.giphy.com/media/Z5Jkv6o5Ni5t6/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952uira4xhx8k0l12l4et1kzv782re07ozjiwqeoxst&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g) the second I saw Genghis Khan
The Tarim mummies come from 2000BC and are phenotypically just as white as any Viking would look, these people were ancestors of the Tocharians and related peoples who lived in Tarim basin until the 800s, with Tocharian as a language being spoken until the 1200's, which is contemporary to Genghis Khan.
The Mongols themselves were a union of the various Steppe peoples, and while the study of this period is rife with political agendas and nationalistic views on ethnicity, it appears as if the Xiongnu people had a significant amount of Iranic steppe peoples within their confederations. These people would largely look like the [Kalash](https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalash_people#/media/File:Kalasha_man.jpg) of Afghanistan, which if Genghis were descended from would allow him to have the phenotypes described while still being fully "Mongol".
Just looking at Genghis' descent though he would likely have a much more Asiatic phenotype than presented here, although I wouldn't discount him having greenish or hazel eyes and a ruddy beard even with that appearance.
Ho-li-hosun created a black an white portrait of Chinggis in 1278. We can assume that Kublai Khan knew what Chinggis looked like and would have changed the portrait if it was that inacurate.
That portrait does have Genghis with lighter colored eyes and shows him with grayish-white hair.
The portrait of Genghis' son Ogedei by the same artist also shows him with lighter eyes and with a lighter beard color. So again I'm not saying that portrait is inaccurate, I believe it is likely the most accurate depiction of Genghis available, but it doesn't mean that he couldn't have greenish/hazel eyes and a slight red in his hair that would stand out and be notable.
Thats by some literally who Persian Writer.
Meanwhile when Khubilai Khan became Emperor of China, as is Imperial Practice, he had a portrait made of his Grandfather, Genghiz, who was honorary first Emperor of Khubilai's Yuan Dynasty. He asked around his gramps' surviving buddies and generals about what he looked like [this is what they came up with](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genghis_Khan#/media/File%3AYuanEmperorAlbumGenghisPortrait.jpg)
Doesnt look like a plastic paddy to me, chief.
Did they mention a different hair color? No? Then maybe hair color just didn't matter to them. It's not like red hair was completely unheard of among Mongols.
Could have also meant brown hair and hazel eyes, some shades do look red and green. Especially to a Persian. You notice this with South Europeans too, they consider blond and res a lot of shades Northern Europeans consider brown. It’s relative.
Globally speaking it’s rare. In some populations it’s not that rare. And not every red haired person that achieved greatness must have had a nickname like that. It’s not a rule. Maybe the mongols thought that’s a stupid nickname to give to their Khan
Eurasian people in Siberia and Central Asia [can have light eyes](https://images.app.goo.gl/yLoMmA8TciUefWeV9) or [fair hair](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Uyghur-redhead.jpg) or [both](https://listverse.com/2012/11/01/the-sleeping-beauty-of-loulan/) just go to the last link with more Uyghur examples. They are at the crossroad of Europe and Asia, makes sense to have in-between looks.
Blimey, Julius Caesar's been through the Obama / Tony Blair effect and then gone round for seconds. He was only 55 when he died (after an active life on a Mediterranean diet).
> Midlatitude regions. Ozone depletion is also observed
at the midlatitudes spanning the region between equatorial
and polar latitudes. In comparison with the 1964–1980 averages, total ozone averaged for 2005–2009 is about 3.5% lower
in northern midlatitudes (35°N–60°N) and about 6% lower
at southern midlatitudes (35°S–60°S)
Source: csl.nooa.gov
LE: Moreover, some estimated UV changes, values for Central Europe (Germany):
> The UV increase beginning at the end of the 1970s seems to
be mainly the result of decreasing cloudiness that affected all
three components. The additional effect of low ozone values
in the 1990s led to an additional enhancement of UV-B and
erythemal radiation by about 5 to 10% in the 1990s in correspondence to earlier estimates (Feister and Grewe, 1995).
Source: https://acp.copernicus.org/articles/8/3107/2008/
His diet was very bad compared to modern standards, he drank lead poisoned wine, as did every Roman ever, etc etc
Look at the pictures we have of wealthy 55 year olds in the 19th century, they do look like that
The Romans made a big deal out of being old though, because it meant you could hold certain offices and I suppose they thought experience was valuable. Perhaps descriptions of him reflected this.
Napoleon is weird, we have tons of portraits of what he looked like and we even have a death mask. We have interviews of people who met him in real life.
Not much is known about Genghis Khan's appearance (except that he was quite tall and had a long beard), but according to some chroniclers, he had red hair and light eyes. The credibility of this is, understandably, questionable, but such a notion has indeed been around for a long time.
Ehh, not that far out when you look at certain central asian populations (like Kazakhs).
Many of them do have light coloured hair (red, blonde) and light coloured eyes (green, hazel and blue).
I know, and it doesn't really surprise me, some of the Central and East/North Asian populations can indeed have blond/red hair and light eyes. It's rare, but it's a fact, there are some.
My understanding is that the original translation was misrepresented, and more modern translations suggest that the red color refers to his complexion, not hair color. Apparently, his hair color only gets mentioned when it turns white.
Most likely, yes. As far as I know, Persian sources were among the first to mention and emphasise this. For Persians and Iranian peoples, obviously, to see a person with light facial features was not something very surprising, although in the case of Mongols it would be unusual (although there are always exceptions). Among some tribesmen and relatives of Temujin (and Genghisids in general) the fact of having grey eyes was sometimes highlighted.
“he was also a direct male-line descendant of Genghis Khan, though intervening generations and racial mixing had so juggled his genes that he had no discernible Mongoloid characteristics, and the only vestiges left in Mr. L. Prosser of his mighty ancestry were a pronounced stoutness about the tum and a predilection for little fur hats.”
Maybe the descriptions are accurate, but the bot is obviously still pulling from content now, that's why they all come across as if they're actors on a movie.
A sex position, pretty similar to cowgirl, involving penile penetration of the vulva, where the enveloping participant is the active part, and where the legs of the penetrating participant are held up.
Yeah Cleo had an even bigger nose [https://greekreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Cleopatra-appearance-credit-Louis-le-Grand-Public-domain-wikimedia-Angel-M-public-domain-wikimedia.jpg](https://greekreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Cleopatra-appearance-credit-Louis-le-Grand-Public-domain-wikimedia-Angel-M-public-domain-wikimedia.jpg) not some instagram LA plastic surgery nonsense.
There is a description of Khan having red hair though:
*Perhaps the most surprising description comes courtesy of the 14th-century Persian chronicler Rashid al-Din, who claimed Genghis had red hair and green eyes. Al-Din’s account is questionable—he never met the Khan in person—but these striking features were not unheard of among the ethnically diverse Mongols.*
[https://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-genghis-khan](https://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-genghis-khan)
What’s up with those freckles?
And damnit. We have fairly accurate representations (paintings, statues) of most of these historical figures, why haven’t they been taken into account?
He was blonde and "eyed like the sky" tho
Yes, it was extremely uncommon for a Macedonian to be blonde, the scripts we have of that time confirm that aswell, but Attaturk was also blond and green eyed, while uncommon, there are blond greeks and Turks
Well Persian historian Rashid-al-Din recorded in his "Chronicles" that the legendary "glittering" ancestor of Genghis was tall, long-bearded, red-haired, and green-eyed. Rashid al-Din also described the first meeting of Genghis and Kublai Khan, when Genghis was shocked to find that Kublai had not inherited his red hair.
> Perhaps the most surprising description comes courtesy of the 14th-century Persian chronicler Rashid al-Din, who claimed Genghis had red hair and green eyes. **Al-Din’s account is questionable—he never met the Khan in person**—but these striking features were not unheard of among the ethnically diverse Mongols.
From u/Tramagust
1. How did cleopatra get access to filler and lip injections
2. Did gengis khan immigrate from ye Olde ireland to mongolia?
3. All of them are SO intense looking
4. Try to get closer to their faces
Julius Ceaser face was very different. We have his face mask. He looked completely different. Also I don’t understand what imaginary friend Jesus is doing in the list of real historical figures
Jesus was a real figure in history ya plank. Plenty of independent sources recorded his death, in fact, many more than there are for a lot of these other figures and you don't see many people calling them imaginary.
Hyperbole on my part really, but no serious historian denies that Jesus the Nazarene existed and was crucified about 2k years ago. He has just as much right to be in this post than any of the others.
Assume Shakespeare and Alexander are heavily pulling from past film & tv portrayals of them. They seem close or similar to paintings/deacriptions but more so modernized
and the Oscar goes to Leonardo DiCaprio for the role of Ghenghis Khan
The ginger hair was a bold choice. Also enjoyed Chalamet in his role of Alexander and Jeremy Allen White as Napoleon
The red hair and green eyes are the most historically accurate thing about that image
No it's not, the 14th-century Persian chronicler Rashid al-Din, who claimed Genghis had red hair and green eyes. Al-Din’s account is questionable—he never met the Khan in person. This is like some Pope in 10 century claimed Jesus is white
Jesus isn’t white?! *clutches pearls*
I went down a research rabbit hole on this one.. You're right that Rashid al-Din never met Chinggis/Genghis in person. In that account, the word interpreted by some as "red-haired" is the word *ruddy*. That word is used in both of the primary translations of Rashid al-Din's *Jami al-Tawarikh*. In the original Persian text, the word transliterated into *ruddy* is the Persian word *ashgarani*. This word has potentially two meanings: "red-colored horse" or "man of white and red features." The context of the passage is that Chinggis/Genghis is being compared to Khubilai Khan, his grandson. They are describing Khubilai as dark-skinned. A contrast of red-haired to dark-skinned would also not make sense. The comparison would have been Genghis's red-cheeked/reddish complexion to Khubilai's darker skin tone (due to Khubilai's mother's people). For the green eyes, that is also up for debate. The word used for green eyes could be interpreted as yellow, Grey, or simply *dark-eyed.* I think this is an instance where people have looked at the text and choosing what they wanted to see in it.
Ghengis Khan lived in the 13th century, that’a pretty close. Did you confuse him with Attila the Hun?
So i'm still technically correct because we have a historical account of the hair and eyes and literally everything else in that image looks made up (armor etc.). Also a pope ten centuries removed from Jesus' time and a chronicler living not even a century after Ghengis Khan are two very different levels of questionable.
There are portrait that based on Yuan dynasty (his direct descendant) description that I waver more accurate than that.
You make a good point but just to play devils advocate; Red hair is recessive and could easily disappear from a bloodline in one generation.
Al-Din literally wrote that while in the court of one of Genghis Khan’s descendants. He is the best source we have for what Genghis Khan looked like, and we know that a lot of his grandchildren had red hair and green eyes.
John Wayne was robbed!!!
at least he got cancer as a consolation prize for the movie
/r/behindthebastards is leaking
You can tell the AI tried to make it asian, but couldn’t go through all the way.
*Benicio del Toro
Pre-Coachella Cleopatra Instagram post.
"I'm like literally an Egyptian"
Sips on Starbucks
_Giza lemon drop matcha Nile water tea_
Cleopatra wasn't. She was born there,but she was actually Macedonian.
Makes the line even better
Extremely fascinating reign, her charm & influence. Her relationship with such great leaders (Ceasar & Mark) loved her high fashion influence to Rome at the time. Truly one of a kind
But do you walk like one?
Did you see she had a lip filling just for the festival?
Cleopatra was the product of many generations of incestuous royal breeding. She was wicked smart and charming, but had manly features and a large hooked nose. She was not a Midjourney thot. It’s a fun fantasy though :) Source: https://www.history.com/news/10-little-known-facts-about-cleopatra
>She was wicked smart Wicked smaht
Exactly, she was of Ptolomean origin. Not as nearly exotic looking as mainstream media portraits her to be.
I liked HBO's Rome's Cleopatra, not accurate exactly to her appearance, but she's so *ordinary* looking and carries it entirely with presence the way she is unrolled in front of Caesar looking disheveled, dusts herself off, then walks over to him and holds out her hand and demands it be kissed was an amazing portrayal
I ageee. It's all in the way she carries herself, her attitude, her intelligence and bravery. She's captivating without being beautiful.
which is how it should be, now Cleopatra's less flattering features were probably exaggerated by a lot of Romans, since she was foreign, but a lot of depictions of her show her as pretty, average even, if having a large nose, but regardless, nearly every source said that if she was in a room, she was who everyone was paying attention to. I think of Freddie Mercury, who is even less conventionally attractive than even the unfair depictions of Cleopatra were, but the man could command hundreds of thousands of people's attention with ease - a clear demonstration of why Charisma in RPGs is NOT "hotness"
Nothing about that show was short of amazing.
What about the make-up? The Egyptians had makeup, but such glittering ones?
> thot When you want to say slut but you're just too scared
The face tattoo was a nice touch.
Cleo wasn’t a conventionally attractive woman
Genghis O’Clahlan? Genghirr Kansson?
Genghy McKhan
Geangus O'Kahnell
Genghis Connolly
Wee Genghy’s Weans also
McKhaaaaaaaaan!
[Me](https://media4.giphy.com/media/Z5Jkv6o5Ni5t6/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952uira4xhx8k0l12l4et1kzv782re07ozjiwqeoxst&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g) the second I saw Genghis Khan
When an Irish person goes to P.F. Chang’s once
Don’t call me by my slave name
Ginger Khan
Théoden Khan
Geoughall O'Slaughterhoulihan
My thought exactly. Wasn't he, like, a bit of a Mongolean? XD
There are some historic documents saying Genghis Khan and other Mongols had red hair.
That's great an all but he'd still look Mongol at least.
Exactly. Like, how is he full blown Viking here
The Tarim mummies come from 2000BC and are phenotypically just as white as any Viking would look, these people were ancestors of the Tocharians and related peoples who lived in Tarim basin until the 800s, with Tocharian as a language being spoken until the 1200's, which is contemporary to Genghis Khan. The Mongols themselves were a union of the various Steppe peoples, and while the study of this period is rife with political agendas and nationalistic views on ethnicity, it appears as if the Xiongnu people had a significant amount of Iranic steppe peoples within their confederations. These people would largely look like the [Kalash](https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalash_people#/media/File:Kalasha_man.jpg) of Afghanistan, which if Genghis were descended from would allow him to have the phenotypes described while still being fully "Mongol". Just looking at Genghis' descent though he would likely have a much more Asiatic phenotype than presented here, although I wouldn't discount him having greenish or hazel eyes and a ruddy beard even with that appearance.
Ho-li-hosun created a black an white portrait of Chinggis in 1278. We can assume that Kublai Khan knew what Chinggis looked like and would have changed the portrait if it was that inacurate.
That portrait does have Genghis with lighter colored eyes and shows him with grayish-white hair. The portrait of Genghis' son Ogedei by the same artist also shows him with lighter eyes and with a lighter beard color. So again I'm not saying that portrait is inaccurate, I believe it is likely the most accurate depiction of Genghis available, but it doesn't mean that he couldn't have greenish/hazel eyes and a slight red in his hair that would stand out and be notable.
Once again, we're not talking about his eye color and hair color.
Thats by some literally who Persian Writer. Meanwhile when Khubilai Khan became Emperor of China, as is Imperial Practice, he had a portrait made of his Grandfather, Genghiz, who was honorary first Emperor of Khubilai's Yuan Dynasty. He asked around his gramps' surviving buddies and generals about what he looked like [this is what they came up with](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genghis_Khan#/media/File%3AYuanEmperorAlbumGenghisPortrait.jpg) Doesnt look like a plastic paddy to me, chief.
Eh, apparently one guy who never met him said that--how could that be true and none of the other people who met him mentioned anything about it?
Did they mention a different hair color? No? Then maybe hair color just didn't matter to them. It's not like red hair was completely unheard of among Mongols.
But it's the rarest hair color in the world, and people would get names like "the Red" or "Rufus" for having red hair.
Could have also meant brown hair and hazel eyes, some shades do look red and green. Especially to a Persian. You notice this with South Europeans too, they consider blond and res a lot of shades Northern Europeans consider brown. It’s relative.
Globally speaking it’s rare. In some populations it’s not that rare. And not every red haired person that achieved greatness must have had a nickname like that. It’s not a rule. Maybe the mongols thought that’s a stupid nickname to give to their Khan
I find that hard to believe to be honest.
Eurasian people in Siberia and Central Asia [can have light eyes](https://images.app.goo.gl/yLoMmA8TciUefWeV9) or [fair hair](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Uyghur-redhead.jpg) or [both](https://listverse.com/2012/11/01/the-sleeping-beauty-of-loulan/) just go to the last link with more Uyghur examples. They are at the crossroad of Europe and Asia, makes sense to have in-between looks.
Leonardo de Kahnprio
Blimey, Julius Caesar's been through the Obama / Tony Blair effect and then gone round for seconds. He was only 55 when he died (after an active life on a Mediterranean diet).
Caesar does look a little dry, should probably add more dressing
Yeah after standing in the sun all day every day with no modern sunscreen
Also no modern sun
The sun isn't any stronger and the ozone layer damage is predominantly a polar issue.
> Midlatitude regions. Ozone depletion is also observed at the midlatitudes spanning the region between equatorial and polar latitudes. In comparison with the 1964–1980 averages, total ozone averaged for 2005–2009 is about 3.5% lower in northern midlatitudes (35°N–60°N) and about 6% lower at southern midlatitudes (35°S–60°S) Source: csl.nooa.gov LE: Moreover, some estimated UV changes, values for Central Europe (Germany): > The UV increase beginning at the end of the 1970s seems to be mainly the result of decreasing cloudiness that affected all three components. The additional effect of low ozone values in the 1990s led to an additional enhancement of UV-B and erythemal radiation by about 5 to 10% in the 1990s in correspondence to earlier estimates (Feister and Grewe, 1995). Source: https://acp.copernicus.org/articles/8/3107/2008/
His diet was very bad compared to modern standards, he drank lead poisoned wine, as did every Roman ever, etc etc Look at the pictures we have of wealthy 55 year olds in the 19th century, they do look like that
The Romans made a big deal out of being old though, because it meant you could hold certain offices and I suppose they thought experience was valuable. Perhaps descriptions of him reflected this.
And yet on the flip side, he's got way too much hair left.
Wow! Everyone was so devastatingly good looking!
Hahaha that's what I thought too.
yep, and these are completely historically accurate. lip filler had just hit the scene!
It's crazy how you can see how much plastic surgery, filters and make up screwed up AI's vision of women. It's so much easier to get realistic men!
Except fuck that Martin Luther guy
I don’t think Cleopatra was overlining her lips like this…
She's doing stealth duckface too
Stealth duckface is a thing?!
Not officially, whatever that would mean. Duckface kinda went out of style, but lots of people just got better at pouting subtly
Wow, with the power of AI, now we can see the equivalent of random people cosplaying as historical figures 🤯
Timothy Chalapoleon
Napoleon is weird, we have tons of portraits of what he looked like and we even have a death mask. We have interviews of people who met him in real life.
As in paper written right? My dumbass thought you said video interviews 😭
That would be neat if it were true ( video interviews)
Khan as a ginger? LOL
Not much is known about Genghis Khan's appearance (except that he was quite tall and had a long beard), but according to some chroniclers, he had red hair and light eyes. The credibility of this is, understandably, questionable, but such a notion has indeed been around for a long time.
Ehh, not that far out when you look at certain central asian populations (like Kazakhs). Many of them do have light coloured hair (red, blonde) and light coloured eyes (green, hazel and blue).
I know, and it doesn't really surprise me, some of the Central and East/North Asian populations can indeed have blond/red hair and light eyes. It's rare, but it's a fact, there are some.
My understanding is that the original translation was misrepresented, and more modern translations suggest that the red color refers to his complexion, not hair color. Apparently, his hair color only gets mentioned when it turns white.
Most likely, yes. As far as I know, Persian sources were among the first to mention and emphasise this. For Persians and Iranian peoples, obviously, to see a person with light facial features was not something very surprising, although in the case of Mongols it would be unusual (although there are always exceptions). Among some tribesmen and relatives of Temujin (and Genghisids in general) the fact of having grey eyes was sometimes highlighted.
“he was also a direct male-line descendant of Genghis Khan, though intervening generations and racial mixing had so juggled his genes that he had no discernible Mongoloid characteristics, and the only vestiges left in Mr. L. Prosser of his mighty ancestry were a pronounced stoutness about the tum and a predilection for little fur hats.”
No he wasnt
No, this is an internet rumor. https://www.medievalists.net/2023/01/did-chinggis-khan-have-red-hair-and-green-eyes/
According to some he was. And Alexander was blonde apparently.
Lol, these are all so off it hurts 😂
Actually, I was surprised to see that the AI got Alexander's heterochromia which is a well-known condition he had, and generally he looks pretty good
Too bad it gave him dark hair...
Maybe the descriptions are accurate, but the bot is obviously still pulling from content now, that's why they all come across as if they're actors on a movie.
that cleopatra image is such garbage i barely even know where to start.
The nose, she looks like a shitty influencer with “Egyptian roots”
Yes, start with the nose. XD
I want Boudica to take me in the Amazon position.
Amazon position?
Bent over a conveyor belt for 12 hours without a pee break.
Oh!
Fuck, this is hilarious lol.
Oh you're in for a treat.
A sex position, pretty similar to cowgirl, involving penile penetration of the vulva, where the enveloping participant is the active part, and where the legs of the penetrating participant are held up.
Thanks C3P0
Aka the hottest position in porn
I prefer the masonry position. That's where she lays there like a fucking brick.
Julius looks like Anthony Bourdain
When I saw Martin Luther, for a second my brain went to Martin Luther King instead and I was thoroughly confused 😄
SAME
Did the artist not realize that many of these people have multiple lifelike paintings and busts made of them that show what they looked like?
Yea cleo had lip fillers and fake freckles that checks out lol
This is triggering, can you do historically accurate netflix version?
I just know someone is gonna hate on this for having Jesus Christ 😭
And netflix will be after them for daring to say cleopatra wasn't sub-sahara african.
Jesus having brown eyes might the biggest issue. Ohmergaawd Jesus was a blond haired blue eyed Scandinavian looking man.
Some people didn’t like this comment lol
LOL
I mean, he also didn't look Ethiopian like op. People for some reason can't ever portray Jesus simply looking like the tanned semitic dude he was
Cleo and Khan are wildly off.
Yeah Cleo had an even bigger nose [https://greekreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Cleopatra-appearance-credit-Louis-le-Grand-Public-domain-wikimedia-Angel-M-public-domain-wikimedia.jpg](https://greekreporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Cleopatra-appearance-credit-Louis-le-Grand-Public-domain-wikimedia-Angel-M-public-domain-wikimedia.jpg) not some instagram LA plastic surgery nonsense. There is a description of Khan having red hair though: *Perhaps the most surprising description comes courtesy of the 14th-century Persian chronicler Rashid al-Din, who claimed Genghis had red hair and green eyes. Al-Din’s account is questionable—he never met the Khan in person—but these striking features were not unheard of among the ethnically diverse Mongols.* [https://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-genghis-khan](https://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-genghis-khan)
Genghis Khan played by Leonardo di Caprio.
L
What’s up with those freckles? And damnit. We have fairly accurate representations (paintings, statues) of most of these historical figures, why haven’t they been taken into account?
All looks pretty shitty and unrealistic let's be real
Damn Alexander is hot
He was blonde and "eyed like the sky" tho Yes, it was extremely uncommon for a Macedonian to be blonde, the scripts we have of that time confirm that aswell, but Attaturk was also blond and green eyed, while uncommon, there are blond greeks and Turks
He looks a little like Peter Steele
Everyone is wondering why I laughed loud and said what the fuck. Exhibit A - ginger genghis khan
Well Persian historian Rashid-al-Din recorded in his "Chronicles" that the legendary "glittering" ancestor of Genghis was tall, long-bearded, red-haired, and green-eyed. Rashid al-Din also described the first meeting of Genghis and Kublai Khan, when Genghis was shocked to find that Kublai had not inherited his red hair.
> Perhaps the most surprising description comes courtesy of the 14th-century Persian chronicler Rashid al-Din, who claimed Genghis had red hair and green eyes. **Al-Din’s account is questionable—he never met the Khan in person**—but these striking features were not unheard of among the ethnically diverse Mongols. From u/Tramagust
He was described IRL as being red-haired
I wish Shakespeare had his earring in this pic. I think it makes him look hotter but ymmv.
That Livia Drusilla got me.
Yes, but clearly in any photo she'd have a poison bottle in her hand!
AI loves to Instagram everything
Ginger Khan?
Do the prophet Mohammed
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Cleo s a baddie
Irish Genghis Khan
The Netflix version of Genghis Kahn
TIL Genghis Khan was Irish
These always frustrate me as a historian because they're never accurate, but I know that no one cares
Must have taught the AI Genghis Khan with John Wayne references.
Genghis Khan was a half Caucasian ginger?
1. How did cleopatra get access to filler and lip injections 2. Did gengis khan immigrate from ye Olde ireland to mongolia? 3. All of them are SO intense looking 4. Try to get closer to their faces
Ahhhh honky genghis khan warrior of the steppe and plastic surgery
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Jezus was more like bob marley
Julius Ceaser face was very different. We have his face mask. He looked completely different. Also I don’t understand what imaginary friend Jesus is doing in the list of real historical figures
Jesus was a real figure in history ya plank. Plenty of independent sources recorded his death, in fact, many more than there are for a lot of these other figures and you don't see many people calling them imaginary.
"many more" sources than for these incredibly famous and well documented people really undermines your point.
Hyperbole on my part really, but no serious historian denies that Jesus the Nazarene existed and was crucified about 2k years ago. He has just as much right to be in this post than any of the others.
What! You are telling me Jesus wasn't a white man with blonde hair???
All of em hot af
Ceaser looks like Antonio Banderas.
Shakespeare is really hot
George Washington is played by Ben Mendelsohn.
That is TOO CLOSE of a "shot", haha I had to move away from my screen :D
Alexander the Great looks fantastic in this picture along with Boudicca .
Shakespeare is tom hiddleston ....checks out.
Can someone ELI5 why it would work on photorealism but ignore the actual facial feature in some cases largely recorded ?
Alexander the Great kinda lookin like Hayden Christenson..
Caesar looks a bit like Ciaran Hinds, who played him in HBO’s *Rome*. Wonder if that is a coincidence?
Genghis McCloud over here
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They all look way to good. Like, people back then couldn’t have been ugly just like people today right.
Damn why are all of them 10/10s omg
Checkmate, atheists
I get a little bit Genghis Khan…
The only one I really feel could be real is Martin Luther. The rest are off or too sexy
Did they have eye shadow, eyeliner, mascara and lipstick in ancient Egypt? And would they have such a modern and western makeup style?
i’m a female and want to fuck cleopatra holy shit
The AI sure has a thing for blackheads God damn
OP, I have a question.
AI seems to love freckles lol
Can you do it like, if they don't know that they are photographed? like from a sneak camera? like doing something casual from their time era?
There are a billion one dollar bills out there and Washington still don't look right to me.
Alexander looks Persian, Ghengis Khan looks old Irish, Napoleon looks British, Martin Luther looks Italian
Wasn’t expecting Boudica.
Assume Shakespeare and Alexander are heavily pulling from past film & tv portrayals of them. They seem close or similar to paintings/deacriptions but more so modernized
So the statues of most of them are misleading?
I'm pretty sure Jesus used to be my dealer when I lived in Hollywood . Great guy, always had snacks when I went to visit.
is that simply a photo of Annie Clark ?
Napoleon is literally Todd Howard
Cleopatra would’ve been fairly ugly by today’s standards.