It's interesting, since we take way more photos of celebrities than regular people, it looks like the AI generates a lot of images that have a resemblance to famous people.
So instead of getting what the author intended, we still get a typical "Hollywood" version, to some degree.
A method I found for getting pics of average looking people is starting the prompt with “iPhone photo…” as well as using words like candid or amateur photo, and setting —s to 0 and have it set to RAW mode
It isn’t about the technical. It is essentially telling the AI to take photos like average people do. So, the resulting person is more average looking.
Yeah so maybe don't use phrases like "dark knight" which have penetrated popular culture due to movies and comics of that title being primarily associated with Batman.
No shit dude :) I changed the prompt almost immediately after, attempting to generate what I was actually looking for. What I was working on at the time had nothing to do with batman, so the connection to the dark knight movie was not immediately apparent. I was expecting more medieval dark fantasy, not frickin' batman to pop up.
Or, you know, just mention ONLY physical descriptions? If you don't want it to pick up existing ideas of a job then just don't say anything about the job.
If you want what what their features are, only mention their features. I feel dumber for having to say this out loud.
It's one of the reasons I love Slow Horses. Most all of the spies are pretty normal looking, and Gary Oldman's master spy looks like (and is) an absolutely filthy, broken down degenerate.
Unfortunately can’t find the one I’m referring to, but a google search reveals quite a few sites. Here’s one example:
https://www.ablogofthrones.com/15-game-of-thrones-characters-difference-than-book-version/
Buzzfeed has a load of these. Very interesting. Here’s one if you like; https://www.buzzfeed.com/laurengarafano/the-hunger-games-characters-ai-vs-the-movies just click through the related posts to see more x
Bond is specifically English of a specific class, type, and character, after serving in the military. The reinventions that they've done (including the suave ladies man) tend to neglect that he's fundamentally emotionally damaged and traumatized and a ruthless killer.
He and Fleming were friends irl. Dahl even wrote the screenplay for You Only Live Twice. But in the books Bond is written as having a Scottish father and a French-Swiss mother.
Domhnall Gleeson could definitely pull that look off.
Heard rumours he’s a front-runner for the next James Bond.
Has a similar face:
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/disneyvillains/images/9/90/Huxjk.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20171114173955
How the F is this not at the top? It’s the first thing I thought. But then I thought about how he’s like 60 now and it wouldn’t work now and got a little sad.
I was thinking he looks closest to a dark-haired Daniel Craig. Maybe an older and more tired/gaunt Timothy Dalton or Pierce Brosnan.
I can kinda see Connery, if he had leant into his harder look, rather than smiley/charming. Not sure how you’re seeing Moore, though.
No, Fleming does say who he based it on. His image was based on Hoagy Charmichael (and a little of himself) and Fleming even provided a sketch to the comic strip writers at the newspaper to help.
Character wise, he's based off a number of heroic OSS and Navymen of the 1st and 2nd World War, including his own brother Peter.
A lot of Bonds likes/dislikes are based off Fleming himself (Cigarette brand, golf handicap, love of scrambled egg etc).
>A lot of Bonds likes/dislikes are based off Fleming himself (Cigarette brand, golf handicap, love of scrambled egg etc).
My favorite dislike of Bond/Fleming is his hate for tea, and preference for coffee. An Englishman who can't abide tea is quite unique.
Wasn’t Ian’s own brother, Peter OSS or something if the sort? I seem to remember reading something about him being in Norway during the invasion, or maybe that was Ian himself.
Lee was in the OSS, there is a great story about him when filming Lord of the Rings when he/Ssauron is stabbed and Peter Jackson tells him what noise to make, and Lee tells Jackson "Have you any idea what kind of noise happens when somebody’s stabbed in the back? Because I do.”
Hoagy! This image kinda reminds me of Kobayashi from “The Usual Suspects.”
The idea of a spy having a prominent facial scar - a very easily identifiable feature - seems pretty silly when you think about it. But then again, JB’s favorite thing to do is to tell you his real name immediately upon meeting him.
I feel like he could work for the secret agency but not like James bond style.
He looks very strict and serious about his secret mission.
Maybe more realistic version of a secret agent compared to James bond in the films.
Well in those case I was going off a description straight up used in one of the books: “slim build; a 3 in (76 mm) long, thin vertical scar on his right cheek; blue-grey eyes; a "cruel" mouth; short, black hair, a comma of which rests on his forehead. Physically he is described as 1.83 m (6 ft 0 in) in height and 76 kg (168 lb) in weight.”
Plus characters in them are always remaking how he looks like [Hoagy Carmichael](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoagy_Carmichael?wprov=sfti1#)
Fleming said he was to look like a cross between Hoagy Charmichael and himself.
Its mentioned in Casino Royale and Moonraker about the resemblance to Charmichael
Here's another redditor that took a crack at a Hoagy-inspired Bond:
https://old.reddit.com/r/JamesBond/comments/109tfye/hoagy_carmichael_as_the_ultimate_james_bond/
He's got the "comma of hair" but is missing the eyes that I think you nailed.
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Fleming compared Bond's appearance to [Hoagy Carmichael.
](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond_%28literary_character%29#/media/File:Hoagy_Carmichael_-_1947.jpg)
I did I learn about this fact? I reverse image searched the picture in this post and the above picture was what popped up.
edit: Just fyi, if you have RES you have to click on the link otherwise it doesn't show you the image, and just shows you the first section of the wiki article.
He's perfectly fine. He has a distinguished look, piercing eyes and a good haircut. Like he'd beat me in chess. The nose is his nose. Nothing wrong with it.
The real James Bond from in Flemings books is closer to a working man than the current version of James Bond.
The books were popular but somehow Sean Connery transformed them into a modern suit wearing superhero..
Actually, that image generation doesn't look that bad. It looks reasonably well for a British actor of the 1960s?
Decent portrayal of James Bond? I like it.
This is kinda dumb. Like AI doesn't know the intent or what the writers had in their mind's eye. According to the input by OP, it was still pretty general. No info on jaw shape, eye shape, etc.
Kinda lame.
Ian Fleming drew Bond himself and he looks [quite different from this Midjourney version](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond_%28literary_character%29#/media/File:Fleming007impression.jpg).
He has blue eyes in the book? That’s weird, weren’t there a small minority of Bond fans complaining about Daniel Craig having blue eyes when he was originally cast? Or was that mainly about him being blonde?
Correct though, can we put an end to this ridiculous argument now, if you want a new spy pick a different one, bond is a white man, there’s literally no reason why they can’t have 00 whatever and continue the film series with someone else, leave bond alone.
I would love more of these: famous characters as originally described in their books, rather than how we've got to know them on screen.
It's interesting, since we take way more photos of celebrities than regular people, it looks like the AI generates a lot of images that have a resemblance to famous people. So instead of getting what the author intended, we still get a typical "Hollywood" version, to some degree.
The trick is to plug in the exact description without mentioning the character's name or source property.
Definitely important but even then, the source material today appears to be mostly models and actors.
A method I found for getting pics of average looking people is starting the prompt with “iPhone photo…” as well as using words like candid or amateur photo, and setting —s to 0 and have it set to RAW mode
Is there a guide for prompts like this? I'm assuming a lot of those settings relate to camera settings, and I'm not well-versed in photography
It isn’t about the technical. It is essentially telling the AI to take photos like average people do. So, the resulting person is more average looking.
A while back I was trying to generate a sullen knight with black or dark armour, a dark knight so to speak, and it kept on giving me batman.
Yeah so maybe don't use phrases like "dark knight" which have penetrated popular culture due to movies and comics of that title being primarily associated with Batman.
No shit dude :) I changed the prompt almost immediately after, attempting to generate what I was actually looking for. What I was working on at the time had nothing to do with batman, so the connection to the dark knight movie was not immediately apparent. I was expecting more medieval dark fantasy, not frickin' batman to pop up.
You said "it kept on giving [you] batman" so I assumed you were confused on how to remedy the issue.
But even mentioing "secret agent" or something like that might also invoke some known characters and actors.
You could use more technical words like "special operator"
Or, you know, just mention ONLY physical descriptions? If you don't want it to pick up existing ideas of a job then just don't say anything about the job. If you want what what their features are, only mention their features. I feel dumber for having to say this out loud.
I mean, yeah. I agree lol
But cgpt was likely trained on the source material. Even if you don't specify it, it probably knows who. It is
It's one of the reasons I love Slow Horses. Most all of the spies are pretty normal looking, and Gary Oldman's master spy looks like (and is) an absolutely filthy, broken down degenerate.
AI spits out what it’s been taught. That why if you look it up AI can have issues with race and sexism.
That’s a good point. OP, did you mention “James bond” in the prompt?
Somebody did sketches of Game of Thrones characters as they are described in the books and it was pretty eye-opening.
Oh yeah. Tyrion most certainly does not look like Peter 'The Cadillac of Dwarves' Dinklage.
Source please? Sounds interesting
Unfortunately can’t find the one I’m referring to, but a google search reveals quite a few sites. Here’s one example: https://www.ablogofthrones.com/15-game-of-thrones-characters-difference-than-book-version/
To some extend we do have a lot of great characters in movies that look legitely like in the books.
The YouTuber Jazza does stuff like that. [Here is the first in the series](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na9_kU3TvVw).
Buzzfeed has a load of these. Very interesting. Here’s one if you like; https://www.buzzfeed.com/laurengarafano/the-hunger-games-characters-ai-vs-the-movies just click through the related posts to see more x
Hell yes. We need more of this.
Yeeees this would be amazing!!!
Generative AI may help make this a reality fairly soon.
Dracula would be a good one. He's more rugged and has some facial hair, as opposed to the clean, graceful noble we imagine.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6942831/How-Game-Thrones-characters-look-according-George-R-R-Martin-books.html
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That’s one British lookin MF innit
He was based on a Serb actually 😂
Bond is specifically English of a specific class, type, and character, after serving in the military. The reinventions that they've done (including the suave ladies man) tend to neglect that he's fundamentally emotionally damaged and traumatized and a ruthless killer.
He's scottish dawg.
Possibly Scandinavian. Bond is potentially based on Roald Dahl. I'm not joking.
He and Fleming were friends irl. Dahl even wrote the screenplay for You Only Live Twice. But in the books Bond is written as having a Scottish father and a French-Swiss mother.
Beans on toast vibes fosho
Looks a bit like [Jason Isaacs](https://independenttalent-63a2.kxcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Jason-Isaacs-Photographer-Stewart-Shining.jpg)
No one is gonna say Dick van Dyke?
He looks like he fathered Sterling Archer.
Danger zone!
Kinda looks like Jason Isaacs.
Hello Jason Isaacs
*Condescendingly proceeds.*
I’ve always thought Isaacs would make the perfect representation of literary Bond
Domhnall Gleeson could definitely pull that look off. Heard rumours he’s a front-runner for the next James Bond. Has a similar face: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/disneyvillains/images/9/90/Huxjk.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20171114173955
How the F is this not at the top? It’s the first thing I thought. But then I thought about how he’s like 60 now and it wouldn’t work now and got a little sad.
Like a cross between Connery and Moore then.
Don’t forget Dumbo
I was thinking he looks closest to a dark-haired Daniel Craig. Maybe an older and more tired/gaunt Timothy Dalton or Pierce Brosnan. I can kinda see Connery, if he had leant into his harder look, rather than smiley/charming. Not sure how you’re seeing Moore, though.
So Christopher Lee then?
Lee and Ian Fleming were actually cousins irl and apparently Fleming supposedly wanted him to play Bond before they cast Connery back in the 60s
Afaik Christopher Lee is a prototype for Bond
No, Fleming does say who he based it on. His image was based on Hoagy Charmichael (and a little of himself) and Fleming even provided a sketch to the comic strip writers at the newspaper to help. Character wise, he's based off a number of heroic OSS and Navymen of the 1st and 2nd World War, including his own brother Peter. A lot of Bonds likes/dislikes are based off Fleming himself (Cigarette brand, golf handicap, love of scrambled egg etc).
and of course Bond's name comes from an ornithologist
And golden eye is a duck!
Goldeneye was the name of Fleming's Jamaican estate.
Ha I know, it’s a duck as well. A diving one
>A lot of Bonds likes/dislikes are based off Fleming himself (Cigarette brand, golf handicap, love of scrambled egg etc). My favorite dislike of Bond/Fleming is his hate for tea, and preference for coffee. An Englishman who can't abide tea is quite unique.
Wasn’t Ian’s own brother, Peter OSS or something if the sort? I seem to remember reading something about him being in Norway during the invasion, or maybe that was Ian himself.
He probably lived a more dangerous life than Bond tbh
A prototype to *movieBond*. When Bond still was just a literary character, Fleming compared him to some other actor popular in the fifties.
Lee was in the OSS, there is a great story about him when filming Lord of the Rings when he/Ssauron is stabbed and Peter Jackson tells him what noise to make, and Lee tells Jackson "Have you any idea what kind of noise happens when somebody’s stabbed in the back? Because I do.”
Unfortunately there's been a few bits of information unearthed that suggest Lee may have told a few tall tales...
Well in that case I will reject your reality and substitute my own.
That's fine, he was a boss regardless.
Any tale told by Lee is by definition tall, given the height of the speaker.
Wasn't it just paperwork that said he had a desk job? Which could've been a cover for field work.
Can you elaborate on this? I found it very dubious that he'd heard a German stabbed in the back. Commando operations rarely ever go down like that.
Clearly you’ve never read about SOE and OSS commandos embedding themselves among partisans and guerrillas.
You think they were speaking up on guys and "silently" stabbing them? Bro, this isn't a video game, be serious.
and then later on played a bond baddie
I thought Fleming wanted Lee to play Dr. No?
Always has been
And then he winds up being Scaramanga
Hoagy! This image kinda reminds me of Kobayashi from “The Usual Suspects.” The idea of a spy having a prominent facial scar - a very easily identifiable feature - seems pretty silly when you think about it. But then again, JB’s favorite thing to do is to tell you his real name immediately upon meeting him.
It's been said, but Bond is a terrible *spy*. He's good at being a one man army who can take down conspiracies and such though.
Bond isn't a spy at all. He's more of an operative. Ethan Hunt, on the other hand, is a spy.
Perhaps George Lazenby was the best bond... Although Timothy Dalton matches quite well too
It's giving beans and toast
oo AI making books come alive do more.
Looks like a combination of every actor who's played James Bond
I see a lot of Jon Hamm in there.
Hoagie Carmichael. I think that's how Fleming described Bond.
This is Jason Issacs. Now that's a casting I would support
Looks like Andy Griffith fucked Frank Sinatra.
So, Daniel Craig then?
Timothy Dalton acutally
If you cover the nose… i see Craig. With big ears.
That's what I was thinking.
I feel like he could work for the secret agency but not like James bond style. He looks very strict and serious about his secret mission. Maybe more realistic version of a secret agent compared to James bond in the films.
Well in those case I was going off a description straight up used in one of the books: “slim build; a 3 in (76 mm) long, thin vertical scar on his right cheek; blue-grey eyes; a "cruel" mouth; short, black hair, a comma of which rests on his forehead. Physically he is described as 1.83 m (6 ft 0 in) in height and 76 kg (168 lb) in weight.” Plus characters in them are always remaking how he looks like [Hoagy Carmichael](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoagy_Carmichael?wprov=sfti1#)
Oh that's very interesting thanks for the resource!
Fleming said he was to look like a cross between Hoagy Charmichael and himself. Its mentioned in Casino Royale and Moonraker about the resemblance to Charmichael
Here's another redditor that took a crack at a Hoagy-inspired Bond: https://old.reddit.com/r/JamesBond/comments/109tfye/hoagy_carmichael_as_the_ultimate_james_bond/ He's got the "comma of hair" but is missing the eyes that I think you nailed.
Since the description is so key to what you did, that description should have been in your post itself. o:)
Straight up irl secrets service actually.
Looks more of a boddingtons kinda guy rather than a vodka martini
Bullshit. He was my English teacher 20 years ago.
Jim Prideaux taught French after he got shot up in that operation in Czecho.
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Jack Klugman?
Thinking the same thing
Fleming compared Bond's appearance to [Hoagy Carmichael. ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond_%28literary_character%29#/media/File:Hoagy_Carmichael_-_1947.jpg) I did I learn about this fact? I reverse image searched the picture in this post and the above picture was what popped up. edit: Just fyi, if you have RES you have to click on the link otherwise it doesn't show you the image, and just shows you the first section of the wiki article.
One ear going out to the shops, the other coming home with the change.
Timothy Dalton will always be the most accurate Bond, and I will die on this hill.
Makes sense. Can pass as British, French, German or Russian. Dude is a spy ffs, should look like he can blend in anywhere.
This guy is not pulling all the ladies.
I think he does because he's a puzzle. People love puzzles.
Maybe it’s cos I’m a huge Bond nerd but I find his psychology (especially in the books), to be fascinating.
Howso? Expound?
Nope, people love hot men. This guy's got a beak.
He's perfectly fine. He has a distinguished look, piercing eyes and a good haircut. Like he'd beat me in chess. The nose is his nose. Nothing wrong with it.
How many rolls did you do, what did the alts look like?
Iirc he was described as looking like Hoagy Carmichael in one of the books.
Should give his eyes that glazed alcoholic look to be super on point.
The real James Bond from in Flemings books is closer to a working man than the current version of James Bond. The books were popular but somehow Sean Connery transformed them into a modern suit wearing superhero..
Ooh, do Jack Reacher and Lucas Davenport next!
I thought it was Sir Christopher Lee.
Is he this ugly in the books? How does he get laid so much, then?
Resting Accountant Face
I shit you not India had a reserve Bank of India governor called Raghuram Rajan, who is exactly this but bit darker
This is absolutely Charles Dance when he was younger
Impressive!
Jon Hamm'ish
Oh. Jude Law's grandfather
Actually, that image generation doesn't look that bad. It looks reasonably well for a British actor of the 1960s? Decent portrayal of James Bond? I like it.
Take all the actors who played Bond, mash them together and you get this guy.
Ralph fienes ?
Wasn't the scar on his left cheek?
Jason Isaac has that look easily!!! And love he has the scar that he's depicted as having
This will lead to an “ism” war.
“Don’t care what you think ‘bout my looks, I’m still, I’m still Jimmy from the books”
I would much rather have this guy as bond than Henry Cavil or some other super model
My name is Bland, James Bland!
Name's Bond, AI Bond
Looks like Jason Isaacs to me.
Jason Isaacs
reminds me of D.B. Cooper haha
I see Jack Klugman https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001430/mediaviewer/rm148556032?ref_=ext_shr_lnk
When reading a book, we sometimes draw a portrait of the hero in our heads
Looks like Dr Quincy 🤣
That’s Jack Klugman
Looks like American psychologist Dr. John E Mack who investigated a mass ufo sighting at a school in South Africa. (Niche)
James bond was based on Dušan Popov. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Du%C5%A1ko_Popov
Looks like jason isaacs which would be a great cast for bond
Same hairstyle as my grandpa.
pierce brosnan best bond actor from the looks
James Bond could could smell whats for dinner in a week.
That'sh quite the shcar on hish cheek, there...
Described how exactly?
r/jamesbond
Spanking image of Sean Connery, the only and one 007.
Now do Maris Crane from Frasier!
So basically Martin Landau
Jack Klugman
A very British face
That "S" curl need to drop a little lower. Other than that, I'm damned impressed. I love the scar.
This is kinda dumb. Like AI doesn't know the intent or what the writers had in their mind's eye. According to the input by OP, it was still pretty general. No info on jaw shape, eye shape, etc. Kinda lame.
How have we not gotten a single Bond movie with the scar yet?
Looks like one of the jury from Twelve Angry Men.
I thought he is the Saruman from the lord of the rings.
He's got Daniel Craig's eyes and Sean Connerys jaw line
Ian Fleming drew Bond himself and he looks [quite different from this Midjourney version](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond_%28literary_character%29#/media/File:Fleming007impression.jpg).
The character is also pretty sexist and racist. So you know. A brit from the 40s
You wot m8, I'm James Bloody Bund guvna!
That's a really cool idea!
He actually looks a little bit like younger Blofeld.
Kim Philby?
He has blue eyes in the book? That’s weird, weren’t there a small minority of Bond fans complaining about Daniel Craig having blue eyes when he was originally cast? Or was that mainly about him being blonde?
I would like to see what Jack Reacher should look like. I have one in mind and would like to see if it would be similar.
Not getting as much pussy with that face
Dude looks like the Colonel Tavington from the movie Patriot.
Still dapper
Archer.
Doesn’t look like Idris Elba or a Woman 😎
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Correct though, can we put an end to this ridiculous argument now, if you want a new spy pick a different one, bond is a white man, there’s literally no reason why they can’t have 00 whatever and continue the film series with someone else, leave bond alone.
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It goes both ways...
Who said I was white??
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The point still stands,who said I was white?? I need answers from you!
He looks like a James Bond villain
That dude is quintessentially British.
i really think Idris Elba should play him next
Oh he ruled himself out of being Bond, he thinks he’s too old at this point.
The dude is 51