Skynet is just getting smarter in this timeline. Get the humans to go broke, can't afford food, then die. Not as quick as nukes, but less ecological impact 🤣
Now vape shops ask for a tip. I finally started doing 0$ for a tip anytime I pick something up. I'm fucking done with this shit.
I was always a massively generous tipper when younger, and all the stores finally abused it too much and broke me.
I just plow thru any menu that pushes a tip now. It's automatic for me. My policy is that I tip for sit-down restaurants with a server/waiter. If that's not the situation, plow plow plow right thru the payment menus.
We have a dog groomer that works out of a nice little shed in his back yard. Rates are fair as he has very little overhead and makes more grooming dogs than working an office job. Do I tip him since he sets his own rates? Should I be giving him $10-$20 extra?
Also have another groomer I use that works out a business for the boss. I tip them.
I'm a dog walker and sometimes people do tip me, but I work for myself, set my own rates, and have very little overhead, so it's completely up to my clients if they want to tip me. I only mention tips if they specifically ask, otherwise I never talk about it. It's one of those things where it's always appreciated but certainly never expected or needed. When I worked as a waitress, I was paid $2.14 an hour, so my attitude towards tips was different in that situation.
Yeah my standards for tipping are:
- I received some service
- I know the tip will be received in FULL by the person who conducted the service
- the person doing the service relies on tips for most of their income
This. And I always tip cash. Cash tips are more difficult to report to the IRS. Therefore if I truly appreciated the service, I make sure that shit goes directly to the staff.
Also fuck the IRS.
Same but I vote for the left because it's fucked up a low income server has to provide a higher percentage of their wealth than billionaires and corporations
And YOU get shamed for not tipping! A subway worker implied yesterday when we were eating lunch that we should tip more than $1.. TIMES ARE TOUGH. Take my $1 and be glad!
It drives me crazy that they ask for tips at drive- thru windows- dude, not tipping for you handing me a bag of food that sat on a warmer entirely too long, thrown into a sack, and likely not correct to begin with
Right? I don't tip the mailman for doing their fucking job. It's become so obnoxious. The only reason I tip servers at restaurants is because it's culturally accepted and what you're supposed to do. However I find it absurd that we have to do it, that paying an employee's wages falls on the customer rather than the employer. I hate tipping culture
Yeah, the way so think about tipping at restaurants is that I’m paying for the food, which costs the same no matter how it gets to me. If I am served by a waiter, I should pay for that (tip). If I have it delivered, I should pay for that (tip). If I pick it up, I’m doing the work (no tip).
Generally, if you pay for a service, you shouldn’t need to tip, since…you’ve already paid for the service.
My vape shop guys remember my name and most common juices. They ask me if I'm gonna get more of X this time or if I'm going back to Y. They are heading towards the area where my juices are as they ask. They've asked someone who was browsing over new mods if they could wait a moment while they check me out, since I'm so quick. I tip for that service.
I would totally understand not tipping, also. Just wait in line, get what you are gonna get and go. I tip because I actually get different and better service. They tricked me with great service!
I called roadside assistance a couple weeks ago because I locked my keys in my car. After he left, I got an automated text asking for a review. I clicked the link, it was a tip screen, not a review. Why would I tip you? This is what I pay roadside assistance for.
I ordered a baby doll from a website for my niece and they asked me for a tip at checkout and charged $20.00 shipping fee. Unbelievable. Panhandling at its best.
the tip culture BS is out of control, but the pharmacy is insanely concerning..... so if you don't tip are they going to see that and use it to potentially gauge their level of care when filling your *next* prescription? seriously I think on that one I'd feel compelled to raise hell.
If the pharmacy techs where you shop need the tips then holy shit I'd be finding a better one. These can be great jobs for great people but are also notorious for driving people into the ground and taking every advantage of the techs.
That’s insane I agree. But I get this complaint constantly at a restaurant I work at as an 18 yo, they pay less than minimum wage. I need a full time job but I can’t find a different one right now that will hire me. My tips get me to about 16 an hour. I always tip where a human is helping me especially where I think they make less than minimum bc yeah, it fucking sucks that the system works this way, but it’s life or death for a lot of people and it doesn’t stop the system if you just punish the humans who are trying to make a living.
Some jobs do rely on tips heavily so I agree. I just think every profession out there now asking for and expecting tips is just wrong, especially in this case being for a pharmacist.
People that do rely on tips should still be making a decent minimum wage so that the tip becomes a nice addition, not screwing servers over and leaving them at the mercy of the customer by only paying them a couple of bucks an hour.
One where profits drive businesses to stagnate wages. The way they are trying to increase their employees income is through petty manipulations. As long as there are share holders to satisfy they will never pay fair wages. Soon people won't be able to afford to work and the house of cards will collapse. This reality will lead them to leverage every conceivable option and emotion to squeeze the consumer and employees dry.
> The way they are trying to increase their employees income is through petty manipulations
They try to emulate the charity worker that says to you "every minute a child in Africa dies of starvation" but the difference is the charity worker wouldn't be standing next to a starving child chained to the ground, inches away from a burger that the worker would be in the process of nibbling meanwhile looking at you with judgy but sorrowful eyes
I’ll never go back to serving and bartending I think, because tip culture is getting really out of hand and it’s ruining it for us.
We are who tips were originally for. And valet and taxi and like not much else. Oh coffee baristas. Don’t leave them out. Delivery drivers. I even do 5-10% on carry out.
Am I forgetting any? I don’t tip on anything else that wasn’t an original (like 20+yrs ago type of thing and I’m expecting labor laws to have to change in the next decade or so which is also going to ruin dining out for every one except the really rich. Mark my words people!!
My nail salon started implementing a mandatory 30% tip charged to the card for all services. It 100% goes to the nail tech. Fast forward a few months and the nail techs started displaying their venmos for those who wanted to show “more appreciation”. It’s truly infuriating how disappointed they look when they realize I’m leaving without adding even more to that 30% automatically applied tip. I’ve even gotten an attitude from one a couple of times. Wtf.
Oh nail salon is one I forgot about. Thank you.
How could anyone be disappointed without getting more than 30% though that’s wild. If I worked somewhere with auto 30% grat I would just try to be really nice and do a great job with everyone to try to build more return guests!
I wonder if the house is keeping any or all of that if they are disappointed it’s almost suspicious
It's traditional to tip stylists and barbers, too. At least the ones that don't own the business. You never tip a business owner for sure since all the profit is already going to them.
Service providers you have an on-going relationship with.
Service providers who could do small things to significantly improve your experience or who go above and beyond the minimum.
Those are the traditional classes of tipped workers.
I confess I continued to tip a regular service provider even after she bought the business from the prior owners. She continued to provide a good service to me.
I stopped going for the pandemic and can’t be bothered to return. One reason is that she changed prices to get more cash tips (prior price made it easy for the change to be the tip. New price means the change is too much for a tip but knows cash customers will likely continue tipping all the change as habit.)
I was making $24 an hour and was living with some roommates and had good spending/ saving money but was trying to get my own place and realized I’d be able to afford a 1 bedroom apartment and my bills but wouldn’t have money for food, gas or anything I wanted to buy which made me sad when I realized the minimum wage is 11.25 an hour like wtf are you supposed to live in your car?
Well, the hotel is collecting $600/night, but the staff are probably still making like $12-15/hr USD, and that's on the high end of my guessing range. Working at an expensive location doesn't actually mean the employees benefit from that much (if any) more than they would at a cheaper location, as easy as it would be to intuit that.
There's two problems here.
1) Tipping ***should*** be 100% an optional gratuity, not a replacement for wages, and businesses need to pay fair base wages based on their specific model and level of profit, but..
2) That's not what's actually happening. That's not reality. By not tipping, you're just hurting the staff that have to rely on those tips to make up for shit wages, because the company refuses to pay them that fair base wage since they see tips as part of that wage.
Like, I manage a casino in real life. This casino is part of a larger corp chain that also does convenience stores.
The convenience store side pays $14-16/hr, but they aren't allowed to take tips.
My runners are allowed to take tips, so the company only pays them $9/hr, because the tips are meant to make up for it. That is my company accounting for pay that doesn't exist yet, and may never exist, because it's a gratuity and not a guarantee. Except it's not a gratuity now, because now it's literally being accounted for as part of their wages.
I wish I had a good solution here, but I really don't. Other than to stop supporting companies who do this, but humans are awful at deciding the future with their wallets, so that's never going to happen. And our legislators are terrified of corporations, so they'll never do anything about it either. As far as I can tell, we're all just kind of fucked.
The sheer irony of it stating the cleanliness of the room and saying “we think so too” but they aren’t willing to pay for it, instead begging for tips.
I would leave this sign for them:
To the person that created this sign:
Isn't it nice to have a comfortable salary that can cover your living expenses?
Wouldn't you want the employees that you trust to be the front line of your customer's experience to be financially stable and not suffer from food insecurity?
We do too. When we pay you $800.00 to sit on your ass and watch the cleaners clean this room we hope you consider paying them a living wage.
Bring it at the front desk. Say you have a complaint. That this sign was left, saying cleaners don't earn a living wage working for that company, despite the cost of the room, and you find it repulsive; if they don't correct that quickly, you will refrain from booking a room again at their chain. That for this time, you want a rebate on your room, and that the rebate will be the cleaners "tip."
Yep… and a dude that owns a company that supplies cleaning staff to hotels up and down the east coast just bought an $11Million home in the Virgin Islands.
I'm not going to tip someone making $15 an hour for changing bedsheets if I can't tip the cashier making at best $11.28 at Walmart, and for the longest time they were starting at $7.35 and no one was like "hey maybe that girl in toys dealing with a screaming bus full of children (which happened to me) deserves a tip".
Like if you're going to advocate for tipping because it's not a livable wage then you'd better start tipping everyone who doesn't make that when they provide you a service.
It's just posturing otherwise, I'll tip people making tipped wages like at a restaurant, but until I can hand $5 to a cashier in full view of their boss and they get to keep it without getting fired, I'm not tipping anyone else.
That's how I feel about tipping in California. In my home state the tipped minimum wage is the same as the normal one. Yet you are still expected to tip 20%. Now I always still tip but it doesn't make sense lol. Especially since you don't tip workers making the same in other fields.
Can confirm, the amount of literal shit I've had to clean in hotel rooms is disgusting, on the sheets and in the shower, not just in the toilet where you'd expect it. Alot of guests leave the room absolutely trashed because they're not the ones who have to clean it up.
It is backwards from the POV that the employees should already be receiving a reasonable wage, but that should be the case everywhere and not just $800/night hotels. In practice, employees expect bigger tips and if they assume you are wealthy (since you’re staying at said hotel) then they feel extra offended if you don’t tip and the rationale is there.
Right? What's the appropriate tip on a $10 hamburger vs a $100 hamburger? Tip culture says that the $100 hamburger requires a significantly larger tip, but the effort that went into walking a burger out to a customer, regardless of price, never changed. Same effort, different price tag... different tip? Shouldn't be.
Plus in this case they're asking for a tip for something that took place *before* OP even entered the room. Maybe all that the housekeepers did was fluff a pillow or two because there was nothing really to clean. This is the very edition of a "blind tip". You have no idea what the people did that are requesting more money. It's quite bold, TBH.
Basically like tipping the hairdresser for the job he did on the guy that got his hair cut earlier in the day, without seeing what went into the cut. Quick beard trim or super mega ultra perm with dye.
I hate the rational of “tip based off how much you spend,” vs “tip based off the service you receive,” like if I give you amazing service and your order is $20 and someone gives you poop service on a $100 order, why should they make more then me just because you spent more on your food?
I tip based off service not the amount spent now because if you want me to pay wages, then you’ve actually got to earn them. And I am a server and I have no issues being tipped $0 if I’ve screwed up or done a crap job. Heck even if I do AMAZING and go above and beyond for someone, I don’t expect a tip because I don’t expect anyone to tip me ever.
The first and only time I paid that much for a room was for an occasion. My wife's 50th, at a place she always wanted to go to. Had to save up a bit to pull off that weekend.
If they pressed me for tips I wouldn't have wanted to. Enough spend is enough.
Canadian here. Actually before covid most of these 800 dollar a night rooms were in the 300 dollar a night range. I know that because we travelled and suddenly the room prices doubled in lots of the places we went. Hence why when I travel to expensive places where the room is 800 a night, it really isn't that expensive for me.
Some them claimed some environmental "savings" by not changing the sheets or giving you clean towels and washcloths. Not you cheap bastards, you're just wringing more profit out of that already overpriced room.
I just stayed at a hotel that was “only” $400/night Canadian and they cleaned the room and brought fresh towels daily (and also turned down the bed and left a carafe of ice water on my nightstand each night)
I usually leave cash in the room. There’s no way I’m tipping electronically. Way too easy for the business to fuck over the staff some more. They’d probably take a cut and call it a processing fee. I usually leave $10 a night. If they’ve gone over and above maybe some more. But it’s always cash. That way it goes right into their pocket.
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I'm a hotel housekeeper, and we hang thank you notes in our office. So thank YOU, we appreciate it. And little things like having all the trash in the bins or not leaving dried toothpaste in the sink is also a big help to overworked cleaners and makes our job a bit more bearable.
That's what I do. I travel a lot for work. Before I check out all trash goes in the bin, wipe down sinks, towels and washcloths hang in the bathroom, all bedding on the bed (pillows separate). I do it for selfish reasons though. I stay at the same hotels a lot and I don't want to get a reputation as a bad guest.
I used to travel for work. There was a time I spent almost a year staying at the same hotel - 4 nights a week and always the same room. I would ask for minimal housekeeping during my stay, keep my room as clean and put together as possible, put my stuff away in my bag while I was out, respond to the notes they would leave me, and leave a tip every day. I never went without during that year. It's amazing what treating people like people does.
Towards the end of the year I ended up having a conversation with the housekeeping manager and she told me her employees were always fighting over who got to service my room.
I always cash tip. There are tons of restaurants that do messed up things to the credit card tips. I want the person who did a nice job serving me (or cleaning my room or whatever) to put that cash directly in their pocket. It is more enjoyable for them and it minimizes the chances of the business dipping their fingers into the pot.
If I cash tip at a restaurant I hand the tip to the server and/or write CASH on the tip line and kinda hang out until I KNOW they’re coming by but don’t want to disturb them with full hands etc. Server over 10years.
(if this is US) FLSA states that managers and owners don't get to take anything from a tip pool or take tips away from employees in any way. Report him to the wage and hour division of your state. Don't expect to get any money back because they're lazy bastards unless it gets them money from fines but if you're interested in revenge they'll claw whatever they can take from him
I think this part is important. I always tip my dog groomer in cash (and like 60% too, cause she does a great job). But the last time I handed it to her in person because I needed to ask her a random question and she texted me to thank me after she had down time to unfold the bills. It made me wonder if the cash I had been handing the front desk had been making its way to her properly or if it was just because of our conversation. But now I’ll never look at tipping the same again.
I hate to be that jaded person but I wager your tip wasn’t always getting back there. We had amazing bussers over the years as a server but a couple for sure weren’t. And girls had money swiped then if you don’t know any better you think the customer is a “non tipper” word gets around and zero fault lies with the thief. Sucks to say it but it happens.
I’ve even said cash amount I have left. I’m a paranoid android tho so
Definitely. It Mexico last year we cash tipped the staff the first day and they were so nice and caring. They realized we were just drinking water instead of booze in the room and we suddenly were flush with water bottles after the first couple days. We didn't need to ask the staff for anything since they were so attentive. Cash tips are the way to go, we had a great experience.
That is awesome. Many years ago I used to clean hotel rooms. I don't know about now but back then it was really hard job, much harder than it looks. My working hours were supposed to be 8 AM - 4:00 PM which included 30 min for lunch. However I was required to clean 18 rooms per day. Even without taking any breaks that was less than 30 min per room and if 4:00 PM came and we hadn't completed our 18 rooms we were expected to stay until we were done but we weren't paid for any time past 4 PM. There were usually a few rooms that had single occupancy where the guest did little other than sleep in the room. Those rooms were easy to clean, Just change the sheets, vacuum, clean the bathroom and replace towels. Those rooms could be cleaned in about 20 min but plenty of rooms had entire families with multiple beds and cots that all need changing, garbage and towels strewn about, dirty sticky surfaces from drinks and food, everything needing to be replaced. Those rooms could easily take 45 min or more.
Furthermore the housekeeping staff received the fewest tips from the guests because we were mostly unseen. Everyone else from the parking valet to room service attendants got generously rewarded because they came face to face with the guests whereas guests generally didn't want us in the room while they were in it. We would have to wait until they went out to go in and cleans so for the most part we were unseen and untipped. I often worked 10 or 11 hour days on 8 hours of pay, staying until 6 or 7 at night and knowing my son was waiting for me. I cried my way through a few shifts.
I didn't know people tipped hotel maids until I started working as a hotel maid. I was fired after 3 weeks because I caught management going into the rooms ahead of us and stealing the tips. It was the worst job I ever has & I burst out laughing when they told me I was done.
Tip from a former hotel cleaner. Leave the tip under a pillow with a note. My boss's girlfriend considered all tips as her property and collected them before the cleaners even went into the rooms. We were paid $5.40/hr at the time so a $3 tip would have made a big difference. I never saw a dime, but did appreciate left behind alcohol at that age...
Yes, the traditional way. I straighten up hotel rooms before I check out and I leave cash on the table tucked under the key card when I leave the room.
Same here and even this way you don't know if the person cleaning your room is working and will get the tip you leave for them but I do it anyway. My mom was a housekeeper.
Someone gets it. It all balances out. I’m not as much of a hotel degenerate anymore. So I’m tipping for past issues. Nowadays you could literally walk in my room and fold the covers back on the bed. Lol. Kudos to your mom. Tough gig.
It was only when I (unfortunately) watched the pilot of *Girls* that I realized you’re supposed to tip housekeeping staff, my parents never did it, I had no idea it was even a thing.
But then I started asking around and yeah, apparently it’s incredibly normal and expected.
Plus I GUARANTEE you that none of that $800/night goes towards making the maids not live in poverty, so… up to you, I guess?
I use to work for a company that took electronic tips and then the owner would dispense them out at our staff meetings by giving us all gift cards. He would buy the gift cards at Costco for a discount on the face value. For example he would purchase 4 $50 red lobster gift cards for $80. So he would pocket the $20 and then we would be stuck with gift cards for places we didn’t want to go to instead of cash that we could use to pay bills and buy gas and stuff. It was complete bullshit and everyone hated it.
How do they know the tip money is for them? Do you leave a note or something? I’d feel weird leaving cash out and put them in a position of deciding if it’s theirs to take.
I always write a little note saying thank you - and telling them where I’m from and what I’m there for. Makes it a little more personable and they are always very nice to me and hook me up with anything they can. In Hawaii I had the most amazing Filipino woman who even brought me and my partner homemade food one of the days. I miss her lol.
But yeah, just write a quick note “for the cleaning staff, thank you”
Usually you’d accompany it with a note ! Or it’s just laid on the bed after checkout quite plainly, it’s rarely a gray area situation like if you saw cash on the ground or stacked by a nightstand
My ex husband worked as a housekeeper at vacation cabins at an army base. They were left tips all the time. I've left tips in hotels. Never with a QR code, though, always in cash.
I wouldn’t pay through the QR, you don’t know who’s actually receiving the money. You should bring some cash to leave a tip on the table when you leave.
Oh yeah, they’re doing it in one city that has QR codes for reporting graffiti plastered on signs through the city. Graffiti artists are creating QR codes to paste over the city’s codes that lead to their websites.
I can confirm this. Worked at a golf resort where rooms were upwards to $1200 a night. Staff made $7.40. Called supply and demand. But at least the CEO had 3 teslas.
I currently work at a 4.9 star ski resort hotel. The average room rate (minus the penthouses) is about $800, and that goes up to around $1200 in the winter. Housekeeping is paid $15/hr, and they make sure no housekeeper is making 40 hours. $15 might sound really nice to some people, but with the cost of living here, it's nothing. After rent, utilities, and food, I'd be amazed if they had even $200 left for the next two weeks.
But it's okay, because our CEO is worth billions.
In Canada everyone has to be paid at least minimum wage, regardless of your job, including wait staff and cleaners. If it’s Ontario it’s $15.50, going up to $16.55 in October.
The person you replied to is still right, though. They are still likely paying their cleaning staff as little as possible. It's just that the government is setting that minumum at something less exploitative.
And so we’re supposed to subsidize the employees who are being fucked by their employer?
I wish we didn’t have to tip people and the employer actually paid them a fair wage .
Yep, that’s why I always leave a cash tip for housekeeping. These are usually some of the more marginalized members of our society (undocumented, poor education, etc.). Just because Hilton is getting $800/night, it doesn’t mean housekeeping is getting more than minimum wage.
I think the annoying thing here is the way the hotel asks guests to leave a tip.
At least for me, leaving the tip isn’t annoying (if you can afford an $800/night room it just seems cheap and penny pinching not to), but being reminded in that condescending way would tick me off.
You're being preached to tip by the corporation that could have chosen to just pay them better in the first place. It's entirely removing the facade and laying bare that the hotel is subsidizing their wages with your money and guilt. This poster should say "We don't pay our cleaning people appropriately. Please help them eat!"
I would tip but not through that QR code - cash only. The hotel doesn’t need a chance to take a portion or make staff claim the tips as income.
I travel a lot for work and keep my room clean & make sure any mess left behind is bagged so they can just grab & toss. I still tip $5-10 cash based on length of stay as a sign of appreciation, housekeeping staff is grossly underpaid and overworked.
Tipping hotel cleaning services has always been one of the “legit” tips (along with wait staff, delivery drivers, bartenders).
Cleaning staff are not being compensated in any kind of way that is commensurate with the nightly price of your expensive hotel room - you should absolutely be tipping. I don’t stay at $800/night hotels, but I typically leave $3-5 per night.
I’m glad you believe that - and I agree. But it doesn’t really change the reality of the fact that they’re not properly paying their employees (in North America, at least), regardless of what we believe.
“Please tip so we don’t have to pay our cleaning staff”
Like, when i go to a hotel, the whole point is paying for the room clean up and towel replacement. Why should i have to pay additional for getting what i already pay for.
I always tip the cleaning staff. Depending on the stay I leave cash for them at the end of a short stay. A long stay where there may be different staff members I leave cash daily.
My first ever job was as a housekeeper and I feel like I have some advice for this subject.
The housekeepers job is to clean the room, not pick up after you. If you leave your garbage on every surface in the room, on the ground, on the bed, in the sink, etc. maybe consider leaving like FIVE BUCKS. Housekeepers clean anywhere from 3-7 maybe more rooms a day. If each room tips they left with a good amount. Most rooms don’t tip but most people clean up their trash and put it on the table, leave all the towels in the bathroom/counter/one pile. If I’m just cleaning and picking up things that are typically kept in the room then what extra service am I doing to get extra money? That’s how I feel about it and I was a housekeeper as a 15 year old. I’m not a housekeeper anymore, and I didn’t work at a place where people spent so much for one night.
I tip $5 to hotel cleaning service. They are never paid what they are worth. I might have my own opinions on tipping culture but the people who work at minimum wage should not bear the brunt of my anger.
I always thought tipping the maid was if she cleans during your stay. Like if you stay more than one night and the room is cleaned during your absence they should get a tip. If I only stay one night in a hotel it shouldn’t be necessary, because you paid for a room that should already be clean when you receive it.
What about those of us that leave up the do not disturb sign and make our own beds? I even take out the trash to the larger bins in the hallway. I really don't like having strangers have access to my stuff.
I'm pretty far onto the "I'm not tipping housekeeping" side of things, as far as expecting a clean room each day. It's most of the purpose of paying for a hotel room in and of itself.
If I ask for anything special (I haven't ever yet, but I won't rule it out), I would consider that might warrant something for the effort.
However, if they're pulling out towel origami, or leaving me handwritten topical jokes, or leave like ten of those Andes mints for me, then I would be willing to tip for "good service" above and beyond the expectations of a clean room and fresh linens.
I do it exactly like that..I am at a hotel rn for a business trip. it's only one night, so I won't tip. After my ten day vacation next month, I'll surely leavd some money.
Tipping the hotel cleaning staff is old-school tipping, like waiters and bellhops and whatnot. It's not in the new school of "well, here's a bill so I'll stick in a line to tip."
So yes. It would be better if hotel cleaners got paid a higher living wage by their employers, but they don't. Tip the nice people.
When I was a housekeeper at a big name hotel, I was paid minimum wage. I did rack up alot of overtime pay because housekeepers quit frequently. My hotel had a restaurant attached. When I started working there, all employees got a free (limited choice) lunch, Tuna melt and fries, burger and fries, things like that. Right around the time that all but 1 vacuum cleaner broke leaving housekeepers across 4 floors and 2 wings sharing 1, the hotel took away the free meal but only for housekeepers. Not well-paid front desk people, not office staff, or kitchen staff. Only housekeeping. Tip your maid cash because the QR code means that the hotel is getting and redistributing the tip.
Yep. I’m also a hotel housekeeper and i’ve never seen electronic tips for housekeeping staff before. The hotel is def skimming off that.
People are being weirdos in this thread. Don’t leave a tip if you feel so strongly, literally nobody is forcing you to. It does make me smile when I walk into a room with a little “thank you” and some cash though. It’s literally just being nice.
I always leave a tip for the hotel room cleaning crew. That's a thankless job. I do find it tacky that the hotel is playing middleman and trying to guilt you into it
Cleaning is built into the cost of the room. So no I won’t tip the cleaning staff. Does the hotel not pay them well???
Edit: our housekeeping staff was paid well above minimum wage back in 2015 when I worked there
And to the person who says housekeepers depend on tips: no the fucking don’t Lmfao they don’t get enough tips to depend on them
>Does the hotel not pay them well???
No... No they do not .. They get a very minimum hourly wage... The cost of the room does not affect their pay one bit..
Also those tips are probably not going to the cleaning staff.
Besides I would really be ashamed of myself if I asked people for $800 a night and still make my guests feel like they are cheapskates for not tipping. This is just bad hotel management.
I agree, the company probably pays like shit. That doesn't mean tipping doesn't help housekeeping at all. Use cash though, I wouldn't trust the hotels themselves or their QR codes.
Housekeepers typically get paid minimum wage, even in the higher end hotels. Even hotels that have kitchens or kitchenettes around here typically pay minimum wage.
Rates are based around supply and demand, we do not set rates thinking, “ok well, wifi costs this much per room, breakfast is this much”.
That assumption is incorrect. On slow nights we take a hit, on holiday and event weekends we make up for it.
Fuck no.
I am so tired of everyone asking for goddamn tips for everything. **It is your employer's job to pay you for your labor, not mine**.
Just imagine a world where every service you got asked for tips. That's where we're heading if people don't put a stop to this crap.
"look, ma'am, i get joey purse-snatcher stabbed and robbed you, but we only stop criminals for victims who tip handsomely. And, well, mr purse-snatcher gave me an entire wallet filled with 20s. You gave me a couple of crinkled 1s and a McDonald's coupon, so Joey's charges are being dropped."
It’s better to split that tip you’d leave at the end among all the cleaning days. The staff is likely different every day and if it’s not they’ll put in extra effort if they know you’re tipping.
Agree with the other comment. It might be the case that for five nights it was person A cleaning your room, and the last day when you left it was someone else, And they got all the tip
I refuse to tip for a service I am strictly paying for already. They offer a room to stay, including housekeeping, for a certain price. I pay the price and expect to receive access to said room with appropriate basic housekeeping. If I request more than that, I will tip.
I take the same approach with food. I am capable of retrieving my own food so for take out or counter service, no tip. You offer to make food and hand it to me, why pay extra? If I am served or someone delivers my food to me, I will tip for the extra service.
Yep, exactly. Tip culture in general needs to die, but there are some occasions where it seems appropriate.
Next up we'll hear people saying you should tip your garbage man.
Hotel maids do much harder work than doormen or belllboys or valets. I 100% tip them usually $5 a night but would tip more at this place. We’re tidy, but cleaning is backbreaking and invisible.
I just don't get where it ends? Sure you can say the poor cleaning staff deserves more money. So does 90% of the workforce. Why does THIS job get a tip and some other ones where people make min wage and work just as hard if not harder NOT get a tip like a linecook at fast-food restaurant?
I mean, if you're paying $800 a night for a hotel room, they must think you waste money excessively
I’m not surprised by this. My **online** pharmacy checkout screen asked me for a tip. Wtf kind of world are we living in seriously..
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The rise of the machine ain't gonna build its self...
Skynet is just getting smarter in this timeline. Get the humans to go broke, can't afford food, then die. Not as quick as nukes, but less ecological impact 🤣
Skynet is crowdfunding.
Instead of hydrogen bombs, it's using capitalism.
Beat them with their own stick
What do you tip it on? WD40?
i tipped a delivery driver the other day and the tip asked for a tip. literally the tip money became sentient and asked for a tip. unreal.
Personally, I want to remain alive when AI takes over, so I would leave a tip if I were you.
Here's a tip for AI. Don't pick Charlie in the 3rd. He's got a gimpy knee.
Haha! That beats the serve yourself pizza buffet asking for one the other day.
I've seen people tip the robot bartender in Vegas
Tbf the core of the Vegas experience is to throw money away. I'd expect it there.
"Here you go sweetheart. Get yourself something nice." (Tucks bills into robot cleavage and slaps robot ass as it turns to leave)
There just hoping you press the wrong button at this point
Omg lol A machine??? What the fuck
Had the same thing at some understaffed movie theatre with a bunch of kiosks that ask for tips.
Now vape shops ask for a tip. I finally started doing 0$ for a tip anytime I pick something up. I'm fucking done with this shit. I was always a massively generous tipper when younger, and all the stores finally abused it too much and broke me.
I just plow thru any menu that pushes a tip now. It's automatic for me. My policy is that I tip for sit-down restaurants with a server/waiter. If that's not the situation, plow plow plow right thru the payment menus.
Same except I tip my hair stylist / cutter. Anyone else gets the shaft
Always tip the dog groomer.
We have a dog groomer that works out of a nice little shed in his back yard. Rates are fair as he has very little overhead and makes more grooming dogs than working an office job. Do I tip him since he sets his own rates? Should I be giving him $10-$20 extra? Also have another groomer I use that works out a business for the boss. I tip them.
I'm a dog walker and sometimes people do tip me, but I work for myself, set my own rates, and have very little overhead, so it's completely up to my clients if they want to tip me. I only mention tips if they specifically ask, otherwise I never talk about it. It's one of those things where it's always appreciated but certainly never expected or needed. When I worked as a waitress, I was paid $2.14 an hour, so my attitude towards tips was different in that situation.
Yes, always tip your barber.
Mr. Plow. That's my name. No tip again. It's Mr. Plow.
Yeah my standards for tipping are: - I received some service - I know the tip will be received in FULL by the person who conducted the service - the person doing the service relies on tips for most of their income
That's one of the major issues. Businesses push living wage reliance on customers instead of just paying employees a fair wage.
This. And I always tip cash. Cash tips are more difficult to report to the IRS. Therefore if I truly appreciated the service, I make sure that shit goes directly to the staff. Also fuck the IRS.
I ain’t a fan of the IRS but I like things like roads, public schools, fire departments, you know, all those government functions our taxes support.
Same but I vote for the left because it's fucked up a low income server has to provide a higher percentage of their wealth than billionaires and corporations
I took my phone to a shop to have the battery replaced and they asked for a tip. I just paid $150 for a 2 min service. A tip?? Get the fuck outta here
And YOU get shamed for not tipping! A subway worker implied yesterday when we were eating lunch that we should tip more than $1.. TIMES ARE TOUGH. Take my $1 and be glad!
It drives me crazy that they ask for tips at drive- thru windows- dude, not tipping for you handing me a bag of food that sat on a warmer entirely too long, thrown into a sack, and likely not correct to begin with
Right? I don't tip the mailman for doing their fucking job. It's become so obnoxious. The only reason I tip servers at restaurants is because it's culturally accepted and what you're supposed to do. However I find it absurd that we have to do it, that paying an employee's wages falls on the customer rather than the employer. I hate tipping culture
Yeah, the way so think about tipping at restaurants is that I’m paying for the food, which costs the same no matter how it gets to me. If I am served by a waiter, I should pay for that (tip). If I have it delivered, I should pay for that (tip). If I pick it up, I’m doing the work (no tip). Generally, if you pay for a service, you shouldn’t need to tip, since…you’ve already paid for the service.
Thank god it's not just me. I was afraid I'd gotten mean or something.
I used to tip 20% when they were asking 15%, now that the norm is 20%, I give 20% grudgingly.
My vape shop guys remember my name and most common juices. They ask me if I'm gonna get more of X this time or if I'm going back to Y. They are heading towards the area where my juices are as they ask. They've asked someone who was browsing over new mods if they could wait a moment while they check me out, since I'm so quick. I tip for that service. I would totally understand not tipping, also. Just wait in line, get what you are gonna get and go. I tip because I actually get different and better service. They tricked me with great service!
I called roadside assistance a couple weeks ago because I locked my keys in my car. After he left, I got an automated text asking for a review. I clicked the link, it was a tip screen, not a review. Why would I tip you? This is what I pay roadside assistance for.
AWFUL
I tip roadside assistance crew.
I ordered a baby doll from a website for my niece and they asked me for a tip at checkout and charged $20.00 shipping fee. Unbelievable. Panhandling at its best.
World where rampant corporate greed is thrown in our faces at every turn and we do nothing about it. That kind of world.
the tip culture BS is out of control, but the pharmacy is insanely concerning..... so if you don't tip are they going to see that and use it to potentially gauge their level of care when filling your *next* prescription? seriously I think on that one I'd feel compelled to raise hell. If the pharmacy techs where you shop need the tips then holy shit I'd be finding a better one. These can be great jobs for great people but are also notorious for driving people into the ground and taking every advantage of the techs.
You should tip me for reading your comment.
Tip me for providing you reading material.
Wait for landlords to ask for tips.
I've seen posts about that already actually, and one landlord had the audacity to make the minimum recommended tip be like 30%
30% of what? Rent?? What the fuck
That’s insane I agree. But I get this complaint constantly at a restaurant I work at as an 18 yo, they pay less than minimum wage. I need a full time job but I can’t find a different one right now that will hire me. My tips get me to about 16 an hour. I always tip where a human is helping me especially where I think they make less than minimum bc yeah, it fucking sucks that the system works this way, but it’s life or death for a lot of people and it doesn’t stop the system if you just punish the humans who are trying to make a living.
Some jobs do rely on tips heavily so I agree. I just think every profession out there now asking for and expecting tips is just wrong, especially in this case being for a pharmacist. People that do rely on tips should still be making a decent minimum wage so that the tip becomes a nice addition, not screwing servers over and leaving them at the mercy of the customer by only paying them a couple of bucks an hour.
One where profits drive businesses to stagnate wages. The way they are trying to increase their employees income is through petty manipulations. As long as there are share holders to satisfy they will never pay fair wages. Soon people won't be able to afford to work and the house of cards will collapse. This reality will lead them to leverage every conceivable option and emotion to squeeze the consumer and employees dry.
> The way they are trying to increase their employees income is through petty manipulations They try to emulate the charity worker that says to you "every minute a child in Africa dies of starvation" but the difference is the charity worker wouldn't be standing next to a starving child chained to the ground, inches away from a burger that the worker would be in the process of nibbling meanwhile looking at you with judgy but sorrowful eyes
I’ll never go back to serving and bartending I think, because tip culture is getting really out of hand and it’s ruining it for us. We are who tips were originally for. And valet and taxi and like not much else. Oh coffee baristas. Don’t leave them out. Delivery drivers. I even do 5-10% on carry out. Am I forgetting any? I don’t tip on anything else that wasn’t an original (like 20+yrs ago type of thing and I’m expecting labor laws to have to change in the next decade or so which is also going to ruin dining out for every one except the really rich. Mark my words people!!
My nail salon started implementing a mandatory 30% tip charged to the card for all services. It 100% goes to the nail tech. Fast forward a few months and the nail techs started displaying their venmos for those who wanted to show “more appreciation”. It’s truly infuriating how disappointed they look when they realize I’m leaving without adding even more to that 30% automatically applied tip. I’ve even gotten an attitude from one a couple of times. Wtf.
Seems like a good time to find another nail salon to go to
Oh nail salon is one I forgot about. Thank you. How could anyone be disappointed without getting more than 30% though that’s wild. If I worked somewhere with auto 30% grat I would just try to be really nice and do a great job with everyone to try to build more return guests! I wonder if the house is keeping any or all of that if they are disappointed it’s almost suspicious
It's traditional to tip stylists and barbers, too. At least the ones that don't own the business. You never tip a business owner for sure since all the profit is already going to them.
Service providers you have an on-going relationship with. Service providers who could do small things to significantly improve your experience or who go above and beyond the minimum. Those are the traditional classes of tipped workers. I confess I continued to tip a regular service provider even after she bought the business from the prior owners. She continued to provide a good service to me. I stopped going for the pandemic and can’t be bothered to return. One reason is that she changed prices to get more cash tips (prior price made it easy for the change to be the tip. New price means the change is too much for a tip but knows cash customers will likely continue tipping all the change as habit.)
> Wtf kind of world are we living in seriously.. The kind that doesn't pay a liveable fucking wage.
I was making $24 an hour and was living with some roommates and had good spending/ saving money but was trying to get my own place and realized I’d be able to afford a 1 bedroom apartment and my bills but wouldn’t have money for food, gas or anything I wanted to buy which made me sad when I realized the minimum wage is 11.25 an hour like wtf are you supposed to live in your car?
It's Canadian money, so just a *mear* $600 a night! /s
but seriously, they still collecting tips even tho it’s 600
Well, the hotel is collecting $600/night, but the staff are probably still making like $12-15/hr USD, and that's on the high end of my guessing range. Working at an expensive location doesn't actually mean the employees benefit from that much (if any) more than they would at a cheaper location, as easy as it would be to intuit that. There's two problems here. 1) Tipping ***should*** be 100% an optional gratuity, not a replacement for wages, and businesses need to pay fair base wages based on their specific model and level of profit, but.. 2) That's not what's actually happening. That's not reality. By not tipping, you're just hurting the staff that have to rely on those tips to make up for shit wages, because the company refuses to pay them that fair base wage since they see tips as part of that wage. Like, I manage a casino in real life. This casino is part of a larger corp chain that also does convenience stores. The convenience store side pays $14-16/hr, but they aren't allowed to take tips. My runners are allowed to take tips, so the company only pays them $9/hr, because the tips are meant to make up for it. That is my company accounting for pay that doesn't exist yet, and may never exist, because it's a gratuity and not a guarantee. Except it's not a gratuity now, because now it's literally being accounted for as part of their wages. I wish I had a good solution here, but I really don't. Other than to stop supporting companies who do this, but humans are awful at deciding the future with their wallets, so that's never going to happen. And our legislators are terrified of corporations, so they'll never do anything about it either. As far as I can tell, we're all just kind of fucked.
The sheer irony of it stating the cleanliness of the room and saying “we think so too” but they aren’t willing to pay for it, instead begging for tips.
I would leave this sign for them: To the person that created this sign: Isn't it nice to have a comfortable salary that can cover your living expenses? Wouldn't you want the employees that you trust to be the front line of your customer's experience to be financially stable and not suffer from food insecurity? We do too. When we pay you $800.00 to sit on your ass and watch the cleaners clean this room we hope you consider paying them a living wage.
In reality the only person who is going to see your sign is the cleaning staff
Bring it at the front desk. Say you have a complaint. That this sign was left, saying cleaners don't earn a living wage working for that company, despite the cost of the room, and you find it repulsive; if they don't correct that quickly, you will refrain from booking a room again at their chain. That for this time, you want a rebate on your room, and that the rebate will be the cleaners "tip."
They may show the shift manager and then be let go for not reflecting company values.
Absolutely perfect. I Love it! We all should make up a "fill in the blank" form to adapt this to all businesses who treat their employees this way?
I’d leave your sign, and I’d leave a cash tip for the employees.
Yep… and a dude that owns a company that supplies cleaning staff to hotels up and down the east coast just bought an $11Million home in the Virgin Islands.
> I wish I had a good solution here, but I really don't. Make a proper minimum wage, would be one solution, no?
Tipping should not be an excuse to boost corporate profits, it is so stupid!!
I'm not going to tip someone making $15 an hour for changing bedsheets if I can't tip the cashier making at best $11.28 at Walmart, and for the longest time they were starting at $7.35 and no one was like "hey maybe that girl in toys dealing with a screaming bus full of children (which happened to me) deserves a tip". Like if you're going to advocate for tipping because it's not a livable wage then you'd better start tipping everyone who doesn't make that when they provide you a service. It's just posturing otherwise, I'll tip people making tipped wages like at a restaurant, but until I can hand $5 to a cashier in full view of their boss and they get to keep it without getting fired, I'm not tipping anyone else.
That's how I feel about tipping in California. In my home state the tipped minimum wage is the same as the normal one. Yet you are still expected to tip 20%. Now I always still tip but it doesn't make sense lol. Especially since you don't tip workers making the same in other fields.
Servers in CA make out like bandits. I’ve got several friends working like 20 hours a week banking 75k.
I think housekeeping does a lot more than just change sheets. Some people are disgusting.
Can confirm, the amount of literal shit I've had to clean in hotel rooms is disgusting, on the sheets and in the shower, not just in the toilet where you'd expect it. Alot of guests leave the room absolutely trashed because they're not the ones who have to clean it up.
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Tree fiddy.
And there he was right in front of me the Loch Ness monster
It was about that time that I realized….. this Girl Scout was about 12 feet tall….. get out of here you monster!
And I *just* gave gim tree fiddy last week
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100 percent this. The higher the price of whatever activity, the more people expect you to tip. It’s backwards and awful but that’s tipping culture.
It is backwards from the POV that the employees should already be receiving a reasonable wage, but that should be the case everywhere and not just $800/night hotels. In practice, employees expect bigger tips and if they assume you are wealthy (since you’re staying at said hotel) then they feel extra offended if you don’t tip and the rationale is there.
Exactly. Employees get screwed on pay, guests get screwed in costs, and in the end the house wins. I wish I could upvote you more than once.
Right? What's the appropriate tip on a $10 hamburger vs a $100 hamburger? Tip culture says that the $100 hamburger requires a significantly larger tip, but the effort that went into walking a burger out to a customer, regardless of price, never changed. Same effort, different price tag... different tip? Shouldn't be. Plus in this case they're asking for a tip for something that took place *before* OP even entered the room. Maybe all that the housekeepers did was fluff a pillow or two because there was nothing really to clean. This is the very edition of a "blind tip". You have no idea what the people did that are requesting more money. It's quite bold, TBH. Basically like tipping the hairdresser for the job he did on the guy that got his hair cut earlier in the day, without seeing what went into the cut. Quick beard trim or super mega ultra perm with dye.
I hate the rational of “tip based off how much you spend,” vs “tip based off the service you receive,” like if I give you amazing service and your order is $20 and someone gives you poop service on a $100 order, why should they make more then me just because you spent more on your food? I tip based off service not the amount spent now because if you want me to pay wages, then you’ve actually got to earn them. And I am a server and I have no issues being tipped $0 if I’ve screwed up or done a crap job. Heck even if I do AMAZING and go above and beyond for someone, I don’t expect a tip because I don’t expect anyone to tip me ever.
We need to cancel tipping culture using cancel culture.😁
The first and only time I paid that much for a room was for an occasion. My wife's 50th, at a place she always wanted to go to. Had to save up a bit to pull off that weekend. If they pressed me for tips I wouldn't have wanted to. Enough spend is enough.
Canadian here. Actually before covid most of these 800 dollar a night rooms were in the 300 dollar a night range. I know that because we travelled and suddenly the room prices doubled in lots of the places we went. Hence why when I travel to expensive places where the room is 800 a night, it really isn't that expensive for me.
The cost doubled and the service was cut in half. They no longer clean rooms on a daily basis if you stay more than one night.
Some them claimed some environmental "savings" by not changing the sheets or giving you clean towels and washcloths. Not you cheap bastards, you're just wringing more profit out of that already overpriced room.
I just stayed at a hotel that was “only” $400/night Canadian and they cleaned the room and brought fresh towels daily (and also turned down the bed and left a carafe of ice water on my nightstand each night)
I usually leave cash in the room. There’s no way I’m tipping electronically. Way too easy for the business to fuck over the staff some more. They’d probably take a cut and call it a processing fee. I usually leave $10 a night. If they’ve gone over and above maybe some more. But it’s always cash. That way it goes right into their pocket. Edit- grammar
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I'm a hotel housekeeper, and we hang thank you notes in our office. So thank YOU, we appreciate it. And little things like having all the trash in the bins or not leaving dried toothpaste in the sink is also a big help to overworked cleaners and makes our job a bit more bearable.
That's what I do. I travel a lot for work. Before I check out all trash goes in the bin, wipe down sinks, towels and washcloths hang in the bathroom, all bedding on the bed (pillows separate). I do it for selfish reasons though. I stay at the same hotels a lot and I don't want to get a reputation as a bad guest.
I used to travel for work. There was a time I spent almost a year staying at the same hotel - 4 nights a week and always the same room. I would ask for minimal housekeeping during my stay, keep my room as clean and put together as possible, put my stuff away in my bag while I was out, respond to the notes they would leave me, and leave a tip every day. I never went without during that year. It's amazing what treating people like people does. Towards the end of the year I ended up having a conversation with the housekeeping manager and she told me her employees were always fighting over who got to service my room.
I always cash tip. There are tons of restaurants that do messed up things to the credit card tips. I want the person who did a nice job serving me (or cleaning my room or whatever) to put that cash directly in their pocket. It is more enjoyable for them and it minimizes the chances of the business dipping their fingers into the pot.
If I cash tip at a restaurant I hand the tip to the server and/or write CASH on the tip line and kinda hang out until I KNOW they’re coming by but don’t want to disturb them with full hands etc. Server over 10years.
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(if this is US) FLSA states that managers and owners don't get to take anything from a tip pool or take tips away from employees in any way. Report him to the wage and hour division of your state. Don't expect to get any money back because they're lazy bastards unless it gets them money from fines but if you're interested in revenge they'll claw whatever they can take from him
I think this part is important. I always tip my dog groomer in cash (and like 60% too, cause she does a great job). But the last time I handed it to her in person because I needed to ask her a random question and she texted me to thank me after she had down time to unfold the bills. It made me wonder if the cash I had been handing the front desk had been making its way to her properly or if it was just because of our conversation. But now I’ll never look at tipping the same again.
I hate to be that jaded person but I wager your tip wasn’t always getting back there. We had amazing bussers over the years as a server but a couple for sure weren’t. And girls had money swiped then if you don’t know any better you think the customer is a “non tipper” word gets around and zero fault lies with the thief. Sucks to say it but it happens. I’ve even said cash amount I have left. I’m a paranoid android tho so
Definitely. It Mexico last year we cash tipped the staff the first day and they were so nice and caring. They realized we were just drinking water instead of booze in the room and we suddenly were flush with water bottles after the first couple days. We didn't need to ask the staff for anything since they were so attentive. Cash tips are the way to go, we had a great experience.
That is awesome. Many years ago I used to clean hotel rooms. I don't know about now but back then it was really hard job, much harder than it looks. My working hours were supposed to be 8 AM - 4:00 PM which included 30 min for lunch. However I was required to clean 18 rooms per day. Even without taking any breaks that was less than 30 min per room and if 4:00 PM came and we hadn't completed our 18 rooms we were expected to stay until we were done but we weren't paid for any time past 4 PM. There were usually a few rooms that had single occupancy where the guest did little other than sleep in the room. Those rooms were easy to clean, Just change the sheets, vacuum, clean the bathroom and replace towels. Those rooms could be cleaned in about 20 min but plenty of rooms had entire families with multiple beds and cots that all need changing, garbage and towels strewn about, dirty sticky surfaces from drinks and food, everything needing to be replaced. Those rooms could easily take 45 min or more. Furthermore the housekeeping staff received the fewest tips from the guests because we were mostly unseen. Everyone else from the parking valet to room service attendants got generously rewarded because they came face to face with the guests whereas guests generally didn't want us in the room while they were in it. We would have to wait until they went out to go in and cleans so for the most part we were unseen and untipped. I often worked 10 or 11 hour days on 8 hours of pay, staying until 6 or 7 at night and knowing my son was waiting for me. I cried my way through a few shifts.
Man that is terrible. I’ve never left a tip at a hotel. May have to start doing that now.
I didn't know people tipped hotel maids until I started working as a hotel maid. I was fired after 3 weeks because I caught management going into the rooms ahead of us and stealing the tips. It was the worst job I ever has & I burst out laughing when they told me I was done.
Tip from a former hotel cleaner. Leave the tip under a pillow with a note. My boss's girlfriend considered all tips as her property and collected them before the cleaners even went into the rooms. We were paid $5.40/hr at the time so a $3 tip would have made a big difference. I never saw a dime, but did appreciate left behind alcohol at that age...
Yes, the traditional way. I straighten up hotel rooms before I check out and I leave cash on the table tucked under the key card when I leave the room.
Same here and even this way you don't know if the person cleaning your room is working and will get the tip you leave for them but I do it anyway. My mom was a housekeeper.
Someone gets it. It all balances out. I’m not as much of a hotel degenerate anymore. So I’m tipping for past issues. Nowadays you could literally walk in my room and fold the covers back on the bed. Lol. Kudos to your mom. Tough gig.
Yes! I was going to comment this. I always make sure ALL the money goes to the staff by either handing it to them in person or leaving it in the room
It was only when I (unfortunately) watched the pilot of *Girls* that I realized you’re supposed to tip housekeeping staff, my parents never did it, I had no idea it was even a thing. But then I started asking around and yeah, apparently it’s incredibly normal and expected. Plus I GUARANTEE you that none of that $800/night goes towards making the maids not live in poverty, so… up to you, I guess?
I use to work for a company that took electronic tips and then the owner would dispense them out at our staff meetings by giving us all gift cards. He would buy the gift cards at Costco for a discount on the face value. For example he would purchase 4 $50 red lobster gift cards for $80. So he would pocket the $20 and then we would be stuck with gift cards for places we didn’t want to go to instead of cash that we could use to pay bills and buy gas and stuff. It was complete bullshit and everyone hated it.
How do they know the tip money is for them? Do you leave a note or something? I’d feel weird leaving cash out and put them in a position of deciding if it’s theirs to take.
In the US they know the money is for them, it's akin to leaving money on the table at a restaurant.
Because this is normal. They know it's theirs.
I always write a little note saying thank you - and telling them where I’m from and what I’m there for. Makes it a little more personable and they are always very nice to me and hook me up with anything they can. In Hawaii I had the most amazing Filipino woman who even brought me and my partner homemade food one of the days. I miss her lol. But yeah, just write a quick note “for the cleaning staff, thank you”
Leave it on the night stand, maybe write a little thank you note.
Usually you’d accompany it with a note ! Or it’s just laid on the bed after checkout quite plainly, it’s rarely a gray area situation like if you saw cash on the ground or stacked by a nightstand
A lot of hotels provide envelopes specifically for that purpose.
My ex husband worked as a housekeeper at vacation cabins at an army base. They were left tips all the time. I've left tips in hotels. Never with a QR code, though, always in cash.
I wouldn’t pay through the QR, you don’t know who’s actually receiving the money. You should bring some cash to leave a tip on the table when you leave.
Wonder if someone could get a sticker of their own QR code and slap it over that one to forward the tip page to their own donations page instead.
Oh yeah, they’re doing it in one city that has QR codes for reporting graffiti plastered on signs through the city. Graffiti artists are creating QR codes to paste over the city’s codes that lead to their websites.
Yeah some people think they're robbed when they leave a 20 on the bed
The infuriating part should be that the people making the beds are making the same bullshit pay as a much cheaper hotel.
They still pay their cleaning staff as little as possible. High priced rooms don't change that.
I can confirm this. Worked at a golf resort where rooms were upwards to $1200 a night. Staff made $7.40. Called supply and demand. But at least the CEO had 3 teslas.
You need three so you have one to drive while the other two are waiting for parts.
then band together, and they should stop working.. whats hotel gonna do hire 100+ plus in a day!
They already got a staff shortage. They just make more work on the employees.
I currently work at a 4.9 star ski resort hotel. The average room rate (minus the penthouses) is about $800, and that goes up to around $1200 in the winter. Housekeeping is paid $15/hr, and they make sure no housekeeper is making 40 hours. $15 might sound really nice to some people, but with the cost of living here, it's nothing. After rent, utilities, and food, I'd be amazed if they had even $200 left for the next two weeks. But it's okay, because our CEO is worth billions.
OP's question makes it sound like they think the cleaning crew are getting a cut of the room rate.
In Canada everyone has to be paid at least minimum wage, regardless of your job, including wait staff and cleaners. If it’s Ontario it’s $15.50, going up to $16.55 in October.
The person you replied to is still right, though. They are still likely paying their cleaning staff as little as possible. It's just that the government is setting that minumum at something less exploitative.
And so we’re supposed to subsidize the employees who are being fucked by their employer? I wish we didn’t have to tip people and the employer actually paid them a fair wage .
Yep, that’s why I always leave a cash tip for housekeeping. These are usually some of the more marginalized members of our society (undocumented, poor education, etc.). Just because Hilton is getting $800/night, it doesn’t mean housekeeping is getting more than minimum wage.
It’s pretty common to tip the cleaning staff. I’d bet it happens more frequently the nicer the hotel.
My parents taught me to leave cash for the cleaning staff and I think that it’s just a nice thing to do.
I think the annoying thing here is the way the hotel asks guests to leave a tip. At least for me, leaving the tip isn’t annoying (if you can afford an $800/night room it just seems cheap and penny pinching not to), but being reminded in that condescending way would tick me off.
You're being preached to tip by the corporation that could have chosen to just pay them better in the first place. It's entirely removing the facade and laying bare that the hotel is subsidizing their wages with your money and guilt. This poster should say "We don't pay our cleaning people appropriately. Please help them eat!"
I would tip but not through that QR code - cash only. The hotel doesn’t need a chance to take a portion or make staff claim the tips as income. I travel a lot for work and keep my room clean & make sure any mess left behind is bagged so they can just grab & toss. I still tip $5-10 cash based on length of stay as a sign of appreciation, housekeeping staff is grossly underpaid and overworked.
Tipping hotel cleaning services has always been one of the “legit” tips (along with wait staff, delivery drivers, bartenders). Cleaning staff are not being compensated in any kind of way that is commensurate with the nightly price of your expensive hotel room - you should absolutely be tipping. I don’t stay at $800/night hotels, but I typically leave $3-5 per night.
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I’m glad you believe that - and I agree. But it doesn’t really change the reality of the fact that they’re not properly paying their employees (in North America, at least), regardless of what we believe.
“Please tip so we don’t have to pay our cleaning staff” Like, when i go to a hotel, the whole point is paying for the room clean up and towel replacement. Why should i have to pay additional for getting what i already pay for.
I always tip the cleaning staff. Depending on the stay I leave cash for them at the end of a short stay. A long stay where there may be different staff members I leave cash daily.
My first ever job was as a housekeeper and I feel like I have some advice for this subject. The housekeepers job is to clean the room, not pick up after you. If you leave your garbage on every surface in the room, on the ground, on the bed, in the sink, etc. maybe consider leaving like FIVE BUCKS. Housekeepers clean anywhere from 3-7 maybe more rooms a day. If each room tips they left with a good amount. Most rooms don’t tip but most people clean up their trash and put it on the table, leave all the towels in the bathroom/counter/one pile. If I’m just cleaning and picking up things that are typically kept in the room then what extra service am I doing to get extra money? That’s how I feel about it and I was a housekeeper as a 15 year old. I’m not a housekeeper anymore, and I didn’t work at a place where people spent so much for one night.
If you can afford an $800 room, you can probably afford a tip. 🤷♂️
What I'm hearing is that they underpay their cleaning and maintenance staff and want you to foot the bill.
Maybe the hotel should use some of that money to pay their staff a decent wage instead of being greedy fucks and keeping all of it.
Why pay your workers reasonably when you can beg already paying customers to do it
I tip $5 to hotel cleaning service. They are never paid what they are worth. I might have my own opinions on tipping culture but the people who work at minimum wage should not bear the brunt of my anger.
I agree! THEY (the owners and the ones who hired them) should tip them
I always thought tipping the maid was if she cleans during your stay. Like if you stay more than one night and the room is cleaned during your absence they should get a tip. If I only stay one night in a hotel it shouldn’t be necessary, because you paid for a room that should already be clean when you receive it.
What about those of us that leave up the do not disturb sign and make our own beds? I even take out the trash to the larger bins in the hallway. I really don't like having strangers have access to my stuff.
I'm pretty far onto the "I'm not tipping housekeeping" side of things, as far as expecting a clean room each day. It's most of the purpose of paying for a hotel room in and of itself. If I ask for anything special (I haven't ever yet, but I won't rule it out), I would consider that might warrant something for the effort. However, if they're pulling out towel origami, or leaving me handwritten topical jokes, or leave like ten of those Andes mints for me, then I would be willing to tip for "good service" above and beyond the expectations of a clean room and fresh linens.
I do it exactly like that..I am at a hotel rn for a business trip. it's only one night, so I won't tip. After my ten day vacation next month, I'll surely leavd some money.
Tipping the hotel cleaning staff is old-school tipping, like waiters and bellhops and whatnot. It's not in the new school of "well, here's a bill so I'll stick in a line to tip." So yes. It would be better if hotel cleaners got paid a higher living wage by their employers, but they don't. Tip the nice people.
I find tipping in nicer hotels goes a long way. Even just a few bucks here and there will get you upgrades and priority service.
When I was a housekeeper at a big name hotel, I was paid minimum wage. I did rack up alot of overtime pay because housekeepers quit frequently. My hotel had a restaurant attached. When I started working there, all employees got a free (limited choice) lunch, Tuna melt and fries, burger and fries, things like that. Right around the time that all but 1 vacuum cleaner broke leaving housekeepers across 4 floors and 2 wings sharing 1, the hotel took away the free meal but only for housekeepers. Not well-paid front desk people, not office staff, or kitchen staff. Only housekeeping. Tip your maid cash because the QR code means that the hotel is getting and redistributing the tip.
Yep. I’m also a hotel housekeeper and i’ve never seen electronic tips for housekeeping staff before. The hotel is def skimming off that. People are being weirdos in this thread. Don’t leave a tip if you feel so strongly, literally nobody is forcing you to. It does make me smile when I walk into a room with a little “thank you” and some cash though. It’s literally just being nice.
I always leave a tip for the hotel room cleaning crew. That's a thankless job. I do find it tacky that the hotel is playing middleman and trying to guilt you into it
Cleaning is built into the cost of the room. So no I won’t tip the cleaning staff. Does the hotel not pay them well??? Edit: our housekeeping staff was paid well above minimum wage back in 2015 when I worked there And to the person who says housekeepers depend on tips: no the fucking don’t Lmfao they don’t get enough tips to depend on them
>Does the hotel not pay them well??? No... No they do not .. They get a very minimum hourly wage... The cost of the room does not affect their pay one bit..
Also those tips are probably not going to the cleaning staff. Besides I would really be ashamed of myself if I asked people for $800 a night and still make my guests feel like they are cheapskates for not tipping. This is just bad hotel management.
Then tipping requests should be a reflection of the employer. I do know that at the hotel I worked at, our housekeepers got paid well.
What do you consider "paid well"? I did it for years and the most I made was $11.
I agree, the company probably pays like shit. That doesn't mean tipping doesn't help housekeeping at all. Use cash though, I wouldn't trust the hotels themselves or their QR codes.
Housekeepers typically get paid minimum wage, even in the higher end hotels. Even hotels that have kitchens or kitchenettes around here typically pay minimum wage. Rates are based around supply and demand, we do not set rates thinking, “ok well, wifi costs this much per room, breakfast is this much”. That assumption is incorrect. On slow nights we take a hit, on holiday and event weekends we make up for it.
Lol you cannot be surprised that cleaning staff at a hotel dont get paid well… Sure dont tip if you dont want too but dont play ignorant
They do not. I was getting $12.50 an hour when I quit my housekeeping job in 2021.
I tip the cleaners a few bucks, in cash, when I leave hotels. But only in cash.
The housekeepers aren't getting paid 800 a night lol
Not the restaurant comparison and guilt trip. That would make me not want to tip even more than I already didn’t; or a tip a penny.
I always tip housekeeping, it used to be standard practice that has perhaps become less common, but is still proper etiquette. Like tipping the valet.
TIL that I'm an asshole for never tipping for a service I've never once been asked to tip for, or seen anyone ever tip for. Oops.
Who pays 800 dollars for a hotel room? If you have that much expendable income you might as well just leave them a fucking tip.
Fuck no. I am so tired of everyone asking for goddamn tips for everything. **It is your employer's job to pay you for your labor, not mine**. Just imagine a world where every service you got asked for tips. That's where we're heading if people don't put a stop to this crap.
"We put out the fire for you, please tip us" "Well, no..." "OK lads, let's put the fire right back…"
"look, ma'am, i get joey purse-snatcher stabbed and robbed you, but we only stop criminals for victims who tip handsomely. And, well, mr purse-snatcher gave me an entire wallet filled with 20s. You gave me a couple of crinkled 1s and a McDonald's coupon, so Joey's charges are being dropped."
My parents taught me to tip at the end of your stay for hotels, and this was in the 90s, it’s not something new.
It’s better to split that tip you’d leave at the end among all the cleaning days. The staff is likely different every day and if it’s not they’ll put in extra effort if they know you’re tipping.
Agree with the other comment. It might be the case that for five nights it was person A cleaning your room, and the last day when you left it was someone else, And they got all the tip
I refuse to tip for a service I am strictly paying for already. They offer a room to stay, including housekeeping, for a certain price. I pay the price and expect to receive access to said room with appropriate basic housekeeping. If I request more than that, I will tip. I take the same approach with food. I am capable of retrieving my own food so for take out or counter service, no tip. You offer to make food and hand it to me, why pay extra? If I am served or someone delivers my food to me, I will tip for the extra service.
Yep, exactly. Tip culture in general needs to die, but there are some occasions where it seems appropriate. Next up we'll hear people saying you should tip your garbage man.
I always tip housekeeping.
Hotel maids do much harder work than doormen or belllboys or valets. I 100% tip them usually $5 a night but would tip more at this place. We’re tidy, but cleaning is backbreaking and invisible.
If I had the money to waste $800 dollars on a hotel room, yes I definitely would 🤷
I always tip cash at the end of my stay
It's not like that money all goes to the cleaning staff.
that's an easy NO
I just don't get where it ends? Sure you can say the poor cleaning staff deserves more money. So does 90% of the workforce. Why does THIS job get a tip and some other ones where people make min wage and work just as hard if not harder NOT get a tip like a linecook at fast-food restaurant?