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cleverwall

Bad parenting is bad parenting and they should be called out


Ok_Potatoe1

I can't decide if I would have said something directly, or just obviously started recording the situation/mom.


cleverwall

I would never record it but that's not in my nature. I have spoken to children that are messing about many times. I've never had a parent speak to me about it. Maybe I'm lucky


Right-Phalange

You are lucky, or else you have a magic touch (or perhaps im unlucky or have the opposite of the magic touch). I've learned from experience that any attempt to talk to another person's child about their behavior, no matter how nicely or respectfully, is usually met with a blind rage from the parent upon their return.


Ok_Potatoe1

Speaking to them like an adult is sensible thing to try; because obviously the parents aren't. ..... I've only seen kids going insane WITH their parents. Attempts of making eye contact in hopes it would trigger SOME self awareness to stfu, has ended in the kids STARING at their parent(s) and crying/whining louder.... So triggering tantrum-kids to double down harder = "not lucky" lol šŸ™ˆ


cleverwall

You've lost me to be honest


Ok_Potatoe1

I'm lost at your confusion. Does this happen when you read too much?


MusicianPristine8973

Ironically enough this conversation was about calling people out, Iā€™ll accept. What the fuck is this shit? You two were on the same page, then oddly worded a comment that was somewhat confusing. So you make a remark about them not being able to read, or a breakdown when they read to much? Yikes, seriously.


cleverwall

I'm totally with you. Speak to children like they are adults. The eye contact bit is what confused me. I find if I give "eye contact" to a kid they usually stop being a twat


Ok_Potatoe1

Thank you for the context; apologies for my previous snarky reply.. Yeah, you'd think eye contact would generally work; but I must have looked at some professional whiners. I'm thinking their thinking was something like: "SOMEONE IS LOOKING AT ME LIKE I'M NOT THE BOSS! YOU HAVEN'T SUBMITTED YET!! ![gif](giphy|QUaqJRizED5NC) "


These_Pie_7385

Gotta be honest, I thought this was the same person talking to themselves for a second


Iconoclast001

100% thought I was going crazy


Mumof3gbb

Me too šŸ˜‚


WillCallYouACunt69

Ya recording something non-violent gives zero resolution and 100% chance of escalating the situation


Dear_Tangerine444

You are right not to. You should absolutely not be taking pictures or recordings of other peopleā€™s children. I donā€™t care how badly behaved they are. Thatā€™s weirdo behaviour. In terms of attempting to parent other peopleā€™s kids, I personally think thatā€™s also a big no-no frankly. If no one has spoken back to you yet, I think youā€™ve been very lucky. If I was ever to leave my child unattended in public (never happening) and I saw a stranger interacting with them, It would immediately put me on edge! In general, people who know their kids are playing up, wonā€™t thank you for trying to intervene. All kids misbehave at times itā€™s unavoidable, theyā€™re still learning. Parenting requires constant and consistent rules, having strangers voice their own thoughts directly to your child actually doesnā€™t help in the long run. People who donā€™t know their kids are little shits wonā€™t care what you say anyway. We should all behave respectfully in shared public spaces, but itā€™s not everyoneā€™s role to teach every child this. Itā€™s not your job to take up the slack. I have a pre-school child, and I am genuinely shocked at the amount of parents that seem to leave their kids to do as they please in public whilst they wander off, phone in hand. I donā€™t get why youā€™d have kids if you care that little, but the way to remedy this isnā€™t to interveneā€¦ just because you can. I know you might think you should, or can. But please donā€™t. Itā€™s going to look as entitled to the parents as their kids look to you.


tizzleduzzle

Ooh your lucky Lol I have an autistic child and if anyone approached him for ā€œmisbehavingā€ in public Iā€™d be very unhappy. Obviously this situation is different and unattended Child throwing a tantrum. Iā€™d never leave my children unattended anywhere.


CreepyBeginning7244

I would have said something. I have always worked this kind of job before becoming a SAHM and when the general public gives you a legitimate reason to say something snarky and/or b-itchy to them, you take full advantage lmao


BillSivellsdee

i'd just shake my head in disappointment and go on with my day. maybe mutter something about 'take control of your fucking kid,', or something.


Katman666

Recording an under age person might not go well.


cgabv

yes, but also this kid is like 12.


dbhathcock

People need to start ā€œinterviewingā€ the parents about their failures at being a parent. And then start posting those interviews on Reddit, TikTok, X, etc.


BillSivellsdee

people need to just put their cameras put away and stay off the ticktocks and twitters.


BirdLadyAnn

This child must have emotional problems. The mother should have kept an eye on him.


ModerateStimulation

Thatā€™s a 12 year old why tf they screaming in public at that age


MentallyPsycho

It's giving neurodivergent meltdown vibes.


ResurgentClusterfuck

That's when you take your neurodivergent child out of the situation, bodily if necessary Source: have ND kid (who is no longer a kid)


maniacalmustacheride

You being the parent, not the stranger. Just want to clarify that up for everyone. Parent wasnā€™t doing anything so the correct response from everyone else is to not mess with the child. Tell store staff, identify if you can the parent, and let security and everyone else deal with it.


VoodooDoII

I agree slightly tbh I had meltdowns up until the age of 13, which is pretty embarrassing. I'm on meds and had a bit of therapy to help me years ago. Although that doesn't excuse this. The parent needs to get the child out of the situation.


soulpulp

Plenty of autistic adults have meltdowns throughout their lives. I agree that they're often embarrassing, but that doesn't necessarily affect our ability to control them. This kid should definitely have been removed from the situation, for their sake and for everyone else's.


ResurgentClusterfuck

Especially for the kid's sake Roughly 100% of autistic people remember these episodes later and it's not with fondness. When behavior is this poor it's because the kid lost control and requires someone else responsible there to help them


VoodooDoII

I'm not autistic (ADHD) but I definitely remember my episodes. I can manage them better now by removing myself from the frustrating things and taking a break, but as a kid I needed help to get there


VoodooDoII

Fully agree, though I'm not autistic (I'm ADHD) I'm old enough now that when I feel myself getting over stimulated or upset, I back up and go somewhere else until I've calmed down. I still get incredibly upset but I know how to avoid the screaming and head hitting stuff far better than I did when I was 13.


keg025

I feel you I grew up undiagnosed with ADHD (I always did well in school so no one figured anything was wrong). I had a lot of fits as a kid and had these weird behaviors that other kids didn't seem to have and just didn't know why until I was an adult and my therapist helped me put the pieces together. Like I wasn't a "spoiled brat" as my dad would tell you. I actually had ADHD the whole time and would get easily frustrated and freak out


VoodooDoII

I did horribly in school because of my ADHD, but everyone just assumed I was lazy or "not trying hard ebough" My mom knew something was wrong, as I was in a school for kids with developmental delays (this was in Germany when I was 2/3), but we moved to the u.s and couldn't afford to send me to another one or anything like that I was diagnosed at 14, about 6 years ago. My mom feels really horrible for not getting me diagnosed sooner.


EntrepreneurMajor478

Likely because heā€™s grown up watching his Mom pay more attention to her phone than to him. Heā€™s acting out because he probably thinks itā€™s the only way to get her attention. This is likely just the result of shit parenting.


Smooth-Reason-6616

Didn't get his own way? Mummy didn't buy him a MaccyD?


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MediOHcrMayhem

I agree. Letā€™s normalizing spanking bad parents


turdburglar2020

Donā€™t. Iā€™ve seen that video. They just all start twerking.


foxxxyyyyyyyyy

yeah, hit the screaming child! iā€™m sure that would totally work to deescalate the situation!


Mhandley9612

Adding on that some kids do it in order to gain attention from their passive parents who donā€™t care


[deleted]

Then both parents and kids are undisciplined, donā€™t expect a random person to put up with an annoying kid.


Mhandley9612

lol I never argued in their defense


[deleted]

If parents aren't doing anything why would you resort to hitting the kid? I'd try talking first, setting boundaries and following through with consequences if they don't behave. 90% chance they'll do it once, be surprised that their actions have consequences and not do it again. If you hit them you know damn well they're gonna be afraid of you and listen even less than they did before, just like you'd feel if an adult would try to correct you by hitting you.


MediOHcrMayhem

Likeā€¦.i donā€™t hit my spouse when heā€™s not listening to me or when heā€™s annoying me or when he looses his cool over a hockey game. Not only is it a criminal offense, but it just would not work. Why would it work to hit your kid every time they act up??


twillerby

Isn't nice when the solution to a problem is violence.


ThrowRA_dull

I wonder how this kid feels looking back at this moment in their life


SimpleToTrust

Probably traumatized by a negligent parent.


Ceecee_soup

I was kind of this way when I was a kid. Turned out both me AND my mom had undiagnosed adhd. When I look back at that time in my life (throwing tantrums in public or running away from my mom and playing around in the store), Iā€™m mostly just grateful that camera phones werenā€™t a thing back then, and that mental health awareness is more of a thing now.


Higgoms

Hopefully not shame. Kids this age don't act like this unless something is wildly wrong, even kids from shitty homes generally keep quiet in public by this age. Only time I've ever encountered kids around this age acting out are when they've got some sort of pretty heavy developmental disability, it's why I tend to just mind my own business when it comes to stuff like this. Either the parent caused it in some way through severe neglect and is going to get defensive, or the kid is disabled and the parent is keenly aware and just trying to do their business and get out so they can take their child somewhere they can calm down/be more comfortable.


allisun1433

Honestly, there is probably something going on at home or in this childā€™s life the parents either arenā€™t helping or are making worse sadly.


ForTheLoveOfDior

doesnā€™t even remember


SnootcherGoobers

And God forbid someone tells the kid to cut his shit out, cause that POS mom will come to his defense. "Don't you talk to my little angel like that!"


W0rmEater

If I work inn that store I would have taken the kid to the counter, call out over. The pa that we were looking for the kid mother, when she got there I would throw them both out of the store and ban the mom from coming back


[deleted]

This is the right thing


Suzuki_Foster

"You do NOT tell me how to raise MY child!"


[deleted]

We need to publicly shame parents more cuz wtf. This isn't even a toddler-


ResurgentClusterfuck

There is a 0% chance I would ever allow my hellspawn to do anything close to something like this, WATCH YOUR FUCKIN KIDS PEOPLE


allisun1433

In my early twenties I worked at a Victoriaā€™s Secret PINK. I hated the parents who didnā€™t parent their child in the store and I had to clean up the giant messes of displays they often would demolishā€¦. ugh. People who donā€™t parent your kids: please for the love of everything in this world PARENT THE KIDS.


N8theGrape

Kick them out. Solved.


_Rigid_Structure_

This kid is crying out for attention. Blame the parents. I feel bad for her.


RabidStealthyWombat

Did his mom buy him elastic skinny jeans? Poor kid, I'd probably be crying too.


Hyche862

Iā€™m the type that would call the non emergency line to report an abandoned kid


LittleLostDoll

thats a child?


Ok-Annual8901

I just want to know, for parents who do this,,, why??? You made that kid, meaning you are responsible for them! Get off the phone and be a parent!


kattko80-

That kid looks waaay too old to behave like that


[deleted]

Bad parenting but donā€™t take pictures of someone elseā€™s kid. Thatā€™s weird af.


Pinepark

Right. Now taking pictures of the PARENT while ignoring their distressed child - all for it.


[deleted]

Ya leave the child out of it, even if they are exhibiting bad behaviour, they are not the one that deserves to be blasted on Reddit. People are commenting on the childā€™s body I just find this all really weird.


krisko11

Using child very liberally here


Lightless427

This is most definitely posted in the wrong sub r/extremelyinfuriating belongs there.


Intermountain-Gal

That would make it more than mildly infuriating! Both mother and child should have been kicked out.


GeraltOfRivia2023

Shitty parents often have shitty kids. Its shitty turtles all the way down.


GoodTodd1970

Infuriating, sure, but don't take pictures of other people's kids.


allisun1433

At least they blocked the childā€™s face out.


GoodTodd1970

Agree. Many people don't even have the presence of mind to do that.


MediOHcrMayhem

Nobody ever takes pics of the insane parent who is severely neglecting their child in public. Na, just the kid


GoodTodd1970

Yeah, that was my thought exactly. It's the parent that's the problem, anyway.


Pinepark

Exactly. I have an autistic son (he is 23 now) When meltdowns happened I did everything in my power to either diffuse the situation OR remove him from the situation.


ratchetology

how old? but next statement...i remember being miserable as a child if mom was clothes shopping...almost especially if it was for me and sibs...hours and hours.. AND NOWHERE TO SIT... why oh why???


__ducky_

I would hide *inside* the rack of clothes and pick the pin needles out of the carpet until my mom came looking for me then I'd show her a handful of pins why was she never as impressed with them as I am now I'll never know


MusicianPristine8973

This was the way! I did the same exact thing, where did they all come from? Why didnā€™t anyone ever care except for us?! Lol, momā€™s are hard to impress sometimes I guess.


__ducky_

Where DID they come from?! Are they still there? Why don't we step on them or find them on our shoes?!


MusicianPristine8973

And who in the new generation has taken up our torches? So many questions.


Major_Lawfulness6122

I did the same thing! Hide in the rack of clothes. I used to haaate being dragged clothes shopping with my Mom


N8theGrape

I remember that shit, dude shop as long as you want, I just want to sit down!


Kitty_Fruit_2520

Some parents just donā€™t get itšŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø


mimimar91

Shirts *are* just fitted blankets though


Gal-XD_exe

That ainā€™t a child that looks like a young adult


w-kghost

looks like the kid is tired of being an accessory. he just needs a nap. people need to stop having kids just to HAVE kids, they're real being that needs to cared for emotionally too. I don't blame the kid, the mom is wrong here.


Nurse_Clavell

Perhaps it would be better to photograph the parent, instead of publicizing the child. It's not the child's fault.


pockypuff

Looking back I really should have.


Nurse_Clavell

Thank you for responding! And for thinking about it. I hope that kid found adults who helped them learn better than Mom was doing.


pockypuff

Absolutely! Iā€™ve actually gained a lot of insight in the comments about being upset at the parent instead of the child and coming from someone with no kids at the moment it makes a lot of sense. Not gonna lie around this time I was a pretty hateful person - *especially* towards ill behaved kids so that definitely played a part in my views. I Can definitely imagine this kid just having a rough day or something which admittedly I have not thought about.


ACcbe1986

Can we just pass a law so we can discipline parents and children who act like this in public? I understand it's not my child, but *we* the public are the ones who have to deal with these nightmares when they become an "adult".


ProveISaidIt

We don't need a law. We just need the public to step back up and demand some measure of societal behavior. You can be damned sure this behavior would not tolerated when I was a kid. I'd have been grabbed by the arm and marched of to my mother and she would get a talking to for not minding her child.


mikeyfender813

Good on OP to cover the kidā€™s face, despite his infuriating behavior.


Inevitable-Radio-689

Dude knew exactly what he was doing. And that isnā€™t a child. He looks like a tween.


shhhh040324

Have compassion for a clearly neglected child. Dude is probably doing all he or she knows since Mom can't be fucked to help. Strangers likely intervene so the (admittedly overgrown) kid knows to make a scene for attention. This is a deeply sad post if you think about it


Inevitable-Radio-689

Sorry but my compassion goes towards the workers. I donā€™t shop at these places because I am a dude but have friends who works in retail. They are just trying to make a living and pay the bills. Although I am sure the workers are compassionate towards this types of situations but who has compassion for them? They have to show up everyday with a smile on their face and get abused by AH families like this. This kid will leave a mess and the workers will have to pick it up. Whatever the situation is, the people who will have to pay for this and pick it up are the poor workers who didnā€™t sign up for this.


butterfingahs

When I was an emotional as fuck 12 year old with attention span issues in a situation where there was absolutely nothing to do for hours I absolutely positively did not know exactly what I was doing as far as meltdowns are concerned.Ā  I don't know why people expect a 12 year old to have the emotional maturity of a late teen to young adult...


Inevitable-Radio-689

I think they expect a 12yo to have better self control than a toddler. But tbh, my mom could never drag me in to that place when I was 12yo. That was a no go zone for me. I would have gone to GameStop and waited for her there at 12yo.


butterfingahs

Might not be a mall, to be fair. I do feel for the kid, because I've been in those shoes. Shopping for hours and hours and hours, being told over and over "we're leaving soon we're leaving soon" yet "soon" means like 2 more hours.Ā  And often there isn't even anywhere to sit down.Ā  I work retail and I've seen these types of instances, and I'll almost always blame the parent. Either they ignore the meltdown, or they're on the phone, or they actively ignore anyone asking them to keep their kids under control.Ā Ā  It's the kids that waltz in on their own, usually in groups, and cause a ruckus/mess that I hate.Ā 


Exciting-Flan-1484

It might just be autism?


Major_Lawfulness6122

No


ghostbirdee

Why is autism the go to for behavioral problems? I see so many people suggest it.


EarthToAccess

Honestly, as someone on the spectrum myself... I thought the same. This kid looks old enough that he shouldn't be having outbursts like that, even if he's just spoiled.


_-ollie

this could be a meltdown. the child is in distress. not an excuse for bad behaviour but the mother needs to do better by helping their child.


EarthToAccess

Amen, either way a meltdown this bad is a case of "Mom isn't handling this right".


Exciting-Flan-1484

It shouldn't be used as a cop-out excuse for all this kind of behaviour, but I do work in primary schools and I see autistic children acting like this all the time.


MusicianPristine8973

Obviously it maybe other things going on here but itā€™s suggested that 70% of ASD children have comorbid psychiatric symptoms including ODD and DBD, disruptive behavior disorder. Itā€™s not a given, but most children are mature enough to not behave this way unless thereā€™s something going on.


unicroop

Couldnā€™t they just kick him out of the store?


SimpleToTrust

I would have wanted to take em to the food court for a snack, poor dude.


[deleted]

Pepperidge Farm remember when the Victoria's Secret catalogs were free.


pockypuff

I would also like to add this was around Black Friday/ Christmas shopping and the employees were trying to keep the store as neat as possible


ProKnifeCatcher

If thatā€™s a child then I am still a child as well


TallInstruction3424

Thatā€™s clearly like an 11 year old lol


ProKnifeCatcher

Not the behavior I expect from an 11 year old. By age 11 my cousin Timmy had already graduated from Harvard, started his own business and was working as a doctor.


Thehairy-viking

I think having this on your phone for two years is even more troubling lol


CreepyBeginning7244

As a previous VS employee during its peak/best years and now a mother of a just turned 4 year oldā€¦.ooohhhhh hell no, in any store helllll no. It amazes me some people have no thoughts in their heads about keeping an eye on their children in public #1 FOR THE CHILDS OWN SAFETY!!!! And #2 for reasons like this.


[deleted]

Who hasn't wanted to have a scream and then settle themselves by making a makeshift bed out of discounted lingerie.


f8Negative

Ask the child why they want to be a piss baby


Hot_Hat_1225

Before smartphones we would just either get the manager, tell the child to behave and clean that up, or talk to the mother šŸ¤” Back then mothers would ofc still be embarrassed and people not used to shit like this


dadbodsarein123

It was her husband


BeltAccomplished5632

Another parent that has kids strictly for an EBT card & extra big tax return.


Ungrateful_Servants

Be mad at the piece of shit, neglectful mom - it's her fault, ultimately.


Madrugada2010

Sheesh, what is it with boys having a meltdown the minute they can't see mom? They're so emotional.


MomKitty2

That's NOT a small young child. I might expect that from a two or three year old but that child has to be between 5 and 7 ( if not older).Ā  I would absolutely bring it to the parent's attention, as well as the store manager. Totally unacceptable.


Numerous-Wish

Maybe heā€™s angry cuz he got on dumbass Yeezy off brands


SoDrunkRightNow2

If you think this is bad, jut wait 4 years. He'll be robbing people


Hypersis_

All they need is a belt


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allisun1433

Jokes about abuse arenā€™t funny.


Vegetable_Air_88

You're gonna get the belt next.


back_shoot5

Get a life


ConcentrateOk6850

makes a joke about child abuse ā€œiT wAsNā€™t EvEn MeAn!!!!!1!!1ā€


butterfingahs

Jokes usually have to actually be funny.Ā 


proofiwashere

Kids do stupid shit and so do some parents. Weā€™ve all experienced obnoxious behavior like this in stores at some point. Whatā€™s weirder is you in the store like ā€œI gotta get a pic of this _child_ so I can post it to Reddit for karma later.ā€


pockypuff

I posted this picture yes. I took a picture to show an employee since it pissed me off thatā€™s all there was to it. So thank you but I donā€™t just simply run up to children and take photos of them all day if thatā€™s what youā€™re insinuating - and Iā€™m not sure what youā€™re getting at with the karma thing you can clearly see I do not post regularly..


shhhh040324

I agree.


jamkoch

Isn't this what conservative christians are calling grooming? I mean why would a mother bring her male child to a women's sexy underwear store? What would you do as a 10 year old when watching your mom pick out thongs?


No-Tax-9309

Do you always take photos of kids when you are out shopping? Very creepy.


kcdaberoni

Never would have guessed the parents race šŸ™„ poor kid.


skyhollow117

Send them to school in the worst kit the next week. No yelling or hitting. Just go ok cool. Here are jean shorts, a stained shirt, underwear with stains and holes and some busted ass kicks or flip flops. 5 days straight. If they do it again it's a month. No need to tell and shout and all that. Works every time.


shhhh040324

Yeah abuse sure makes people fall in line. Why don't you take the door off the hinges and waterboard the kid, too.


PRAHPS

Why is a young person in that type of store?


MrsSadieMorgan

ā€œThat type of store.ā€ šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø Moms need bras and panties too. What do you suggest she do (aside from controlling her childā€™s behavior there)?