Ah Comerica Park! Did you know that its center field is 420ft deep? That’s the deepest in all of MLB, except of course Comerica Park, which is 420ft deep!
Which is funny because they changed it to 412 ft last year. But it's true that a lot of parks don't have a true dead center field anymore. Many parks are asymetrical with notches and stuff, and some parks have their deepest dimension in left center rather than center.
>Minute Maid Park, when it opened as Enron Field, had a HILL and FLAG POLE on the field in its dead center.
A failure of the commissioner's office to protect the integrity of the game, if you ask me.
Agreed. Old parks had “charm” and quirkiness because of how they had to be fit into their footprints, or were fields designed for things other than baseball. We don’t need cookie cutters, but there’s no place for that degree of forced eccentricity in the era of billionaire baseball
Well, actually you were right in that left center was 460. It just got even deeper, which is nuts. Bill Jenkinson wrote a book called “The Year Babe Ruth Hit 104 Home Runs” where he calculated that if Babe had played with modern stadium dimensions, he would’ve hit 104 in 1921 and, IIRC, over 1000 career HRs. Crazy stuff. Of course, if he was hitting against modern pitching I doubt he would’ve been as productive. But, hey, maybe modern velo and athleticism wouldn’t have gotten to him. He was dealing with spit balls, a higher mound and a larger strike zone, after all. Who knows lol 🤷♂️
And it felt like it wasn’t totally unusual for home runs to reach those upper deck bleachers. I think that led us all to believe that we’d see a fountain shot at Comerica Park every once in a while. It didn’t even happen when we had the HR Derby.
I always thought dead center meant like “dead on” as in “exactly center field.”
I’m assuming it actually means “dead” because that’s where balls go to die if it’s the deepest part of the field? My life is a lie.
Would almost be entertaining if they still had the incline against the monster. Or the flagpole on the field. Of course it’s safer now, just imagining what that was like way back when.
They got rid of the incline in 1975/76 --- Houston kept their hill and flagpole on the field until **2016.** Absolutely nutty there were inclines and poles in play less than 10 years ago.
It's a new thing that Google is trying out, I think. It aggregates information to answer your question without having to actually go to any website. As you can see, hilarity often ensues
Oh come on!
Damn... You're right I guess lol.
I saw them in concert when they were touring in support of that album. Feels like 30 years ago. Jesus Christ it was 30 years ago. Ugh.
I never saw monster magnet, but I wish I had. I saw Anthrax when they toured with Public Enemy. That was an absolutely incredible show. Primus was the opening act. Man, that was awesome!
That’s weird, mine says “Comerica Park in Detroit has the deepest center field fence in the MLB at 420 feet. The only other MLB stadium with a center field sign as there's a drive into deep left field by Castellanos, it will be a home run. And so that will make it a 4–0 ballgame.”
It’s even worse. Apparently they realized people would type “Reddit” in their searches to “get a human response” so Google made a $60 million deal to use Reddit to train their AI. I saw someone asked “what do I do if I am depressed” and they got a response “go jump off a bridge.” They didn’t make it worse, they straight up broke it.
As others have said, it's AI driven, but more specifically it's using generative AI, which is designed to approximate human response, not provide you with fact. For example, when you ask a generative AI (ChatGPT, Bard, etc.) what 1+1 is it'll say the answer is 2, but it isn't doing math. It's just responding with what it believe a human would respond with.
For basic responses it is often pretty good, but I always tell people that GenAI is good for providing a framework for things or for providing insights into things already completed, but shouldn't ever be used to provide a final product of anything.
What you are seeing is that commercially available "AI", as it is currently being rolled out, is a complete scam. There is nothing "intelligent" about it -- it doesn't read with comprehension or write with coherence. It is just using mathematic probability to make things that look to it like what sentences look like.
There is definitely a possible future that includes "AI" but whatever it is will not have these dumb language imitators as any part of its ancestry.
As of 2023, the outfield dimensions at Comerica Park in Detroit are:
Left field: 342 ft (104 m)
Left-center: 370 ft (110 m)
Center field: 412 ft (126 m)
Right-center: 365 ft (111 m)
Right field: 330 ft (100 m)
Outfield walls: 7 ft high, except for the camera well in the right-field corner
The irony is it’s actually 430 feet. Tiger Stadium (it’s predecessor) was 440 to dead center. Comerica came in at 430 but the number scared ownership that home run hitters wouldn’t want to play there, so they labeled it 420.
They had to move the fence closer in left field and left center also for the same reason. The original fence is behind where the bullpens are now.
Explanation: AI doesn't understand what it is saying. Ever. It might sometimes look like it makes sense, but AI cannot tell the difference between sense and nonsense, it just provides what it is trained to generate, the most likely text based on their model.
It does not know what baseball is. It does not know what Comerica Park is. It just knows to look for the wiki's associated with those strings and supply some of the strings contained on those pages.
Until a few years ago the field I played high school ball on had a 440 center. We could run batting practices both ways at the same time with thundersticks.
My most unpopular opinion about baseball is that it's ridiculous that there are different dimensions to ballparks. No other sport can even be even a few inches off or it creates a shit storm but baseball is like "you want your CF 20 feet further than others? Go for it!"
Gotcha. As I said, it's probably my most unpopular opinion, but I hate it. I just don't understand why everyone is OK with Baseball being different than literally every other sport in that regard.
It’s not going to affect it as much as weather and altitude. For example, Coors Field regardless of who plays there batters get on average an extra 15 to 20 feet of distance on hits because of altitude.
The average amount of hits per year in ball parks is between 3800 and 4500 hits. But so much plays into that depends on how good or bad a team. But vast majority of the ball parks get between 4000 and 4200 hits. I don’t think that would change too much if all of the fields had the same dimensions.
Sure. And, if I'm honest I would prefer to have all games played in domes as well. But for the better of the sport it should be in different cities and domes are expensive so that's something that's easy to accept as the benefits far outweigh the detractions. And Coors Field is the only one with a real appreciable difference.
>But vast majority of the ball parks get between 4000 and 4200 hits. I don’t think that would change too much if all of the fields had the same dimensions.
It's not about the number of hits, it's about the result of those hits. The Royals have long had a "pitchers park". One year they tried moving the fences in 10 feet to hit more home runs but it backfired with the opponent hitting way more HRs and they moved it back the next year. But something Royals fans and bloggers often do is put overlays of shorter parks on year long spray charts and they almost always result in multiple players hitting more homeruns. I don't think it's unreasonable to imagine moving the fences in 10 feet having a game-changing impact on 5-ish games a year.
I did say it was unpopular. Haha. But I think what makes the game amazing is the strategy and skill of the players more than arbitrary field sizes. I just don't understand why baseball has to be different than literally any other sport when it comes to standard field size.
That’s AI for ya
If that’s what’s driving me home in a driverless cab I’m walking next time.
The driverless cab will take you to Comerica Park, or if you prefer, Comerica Park.
But only to deep center field.
Which is 420 feet deep, I hear. The deepest, other than Comerica Park of course.
ChatGPT, when did Comerica’s center field die?
Ah Comerica Park! Did you know that its center field is 420ft deep? That’s the deepest in all of MLB, except of course Comerica Park, which is 420ft deep!
Don’t forget the Comerica Park in Detroit that has a depth of 128M. It’s a MLB stadium.
Fishy username, I like it.
They should put up some sort of sign.
A sign in Comerica Park, Detroit, or in Detroit at Comerica Park.
Well, to be fair, if you ever need to get to Comerica Park…
Be mindful of the driverless cars on the sidewalk
AI saw 420 and ran with it
Which is funny because they changed it to 412 ft last year. But it's true that a lot of parks don't have a true dead center field anymore. Many parks are asymetrical with notches and stuff, and some parks have their deepest dimension in left center rather than center.
I remember as a kid straight away center at Tiger stadium was like 440 lol
Wasn’t it like 310 to the corners too? And that over hang!
Right field upper deck was my favorite spot for heckling Paul O’Neil!
“Hey O’Neil…You Suck!”
That’s the ticket!
And Darrell Evans!
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>Minute Maid Park, when it opened as Enron Field, had a HILL and FLAG POLE on the field in its dead center. A failure of the commissioner's office to protect the integrity of the game, if you ask me.
Agreed. Old parks had “charm” and quirkiness because of how they had to be fit into their footprints, or were fields designed for things other than baseball. We don’t need cookie cutters, but there’s no place for that degree of forced eccentricity in the era of billionaire baseball
I for one, want to be able to play lazertag in deep center field.
That hill was so stupid - Michigan State’s stadium has one too, probably as some homage to Drayton McLane.
I miss Tal's Hill
It was 490 to the deepest part of the original Yankee stadium. And 295 feet to RF.
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Well, actually you were right in that left center was 460. It just got even deeper, which is nuts. Bill Jenkinson wrote a book called “The Year Babe Ruth Hit 104 Home Runs” where he calculated that if Babe had played with modern stadium dimensions, he would’ve hit 104 in 1921 and, IIRC, over 1000 career HRs. Crazy stuff. Of course, if he was hitting against modern pitching I doubt he would’ve been as productive. But, hey, maybe modern velo and athleticism wouldn’t have gotten to him. He was dealing with spit balls, a higher mound and a larger strike zone, after all. Who knows lol 🤷♂️
And it felt like it wasn’t totally unusual for home runs to reach those upper deck bleachers. I think that led us all to believe that we’d see a fountain shot at Comerica Park every once in a while. It didn’t even happen when we had the HR Derby.
I remember as a kid straight away center at the Polo Grounds was like 650 feet. LOL.
483*
Close enough. Now get off my lawn.
Damn global warming
in theory, the deepest part of the park should normally be left/right center
When MLB shared stadiums with the NFL teams the foul territories were extensive especially behind home plate.
I always thought dead center meant like “dead on” as in “exactly center field.” I’m assuming it actually means “dead” because that’s where balls go to die if it’s the deepest part of the field? My life is a lie.
No, you were right the first time
My life has meaning again.
That's your AI Overview for you. The I in AI should not stand for intelligence
Well, it *is* artificial.
Fenway would like a word
Would almost be entertaining if they still had the incline against the monster. Or the flagpole on the field. Of course it’s safer now, just imagining what that was like way back when.
They got rid of the incline in 1975/76 --- Houston kept their hill and flagpole on the field until **2016.** Absolutely nutty there were inclines and poles in play less than 10 years ago.
It was 4:20 for the AI as well
AI hallucinating about 420 feels on brand to me. Let the robot blaze...
Someone smell burnt toast?
Ai overview?
It's a new thing that Google is trying out, I think. It aggregates information to answer your question without having to actually go to any website. As you can see, hilarity often ensues
So instead of a shit robot to answer your questions its more of an invasive data mining situation?
Yes, that's the impression that I get lol
Bosstones?
🎶Doot doot-doot doot Never had to knock on wood🎵. Isn't that a great song?!?
Ish, shows age tho.
Oh come on! Damn... You're right I guess lol. I saw them in concert when they were touring in support of that album. Feels like 30 years ago. Jesus Christ it was 30 years ago. Ugh.
Puts you at min 8 older than me. Probably saw monster magnet too. Puts you 12+
I never saw monster magnet, but I wish I had. I saw Anthrax when they toured with Public Enemy. That was an absolutely incredible show. Primus was the opening act. Man, that was awesome!
Yeah, they’re trying to have their own chatGPT, but it’s badly trained and like a lot of AI models is prone to hallucinatory bullshit like this.
That’s weird, mine says “Comerica Park in Detroit has the deepest center field fence in the MLB at 420 feet. The only other MLB stadium with a center field sign as there's a drive into deep left field by Castellanos, it will be a home run. And so that will make it a 4–0 ballgame.”
Bravo!
Nonsense. Comerica Park has a deeper center field than both of those.
AI ain't very I.
AI is A, but not so I.
AI… Answers Incorrectly. Guys I think we just got the name wrong.
I gotta assume Gemini was trained with the prompt "You are a search engine, you are Google, make yourself worse"
It’s even worse. Apparently they realized people would type “Reddit” in their searches to “get a human response” so Google made a $60 million deal to use Reddit to train their AI. I saw someone asked “what do I do if I am depressed” and they got a response “go jump off a bridge.” They didn’t make it worse, they straight up broke it.
But have you considered that their stocks went up temporarily when everybody thought this was a good idea? Sounds like they did the right thing
Co in Comerica means there are two. Obviously.
The multiverse
The machine has a boner for the Tigers. What can you say?
There are 2 signs?
AI sucks ass, nothing too deep about it
Really thinks you think
As others have said, it's AI driven, but more specifically it's using generative AI, which is designed to approximate human response, not provide you with fact. For example, when you ask a generative AI (ChatGPT, Bard, etc.) what 1+1 is it'll say the answer is 2, but it isn't doing math. It's just responding with what it believe a human would respond with. For basic responses it is often pretty good, but I always tell people that GenAI is good for providing a framework for things or for providing insights into things already completed, but shouldn't ever be used to provide a final product of anything.
What you are seeing is that commercially available "AI", as it is currently being rolled out, is a complete scam. There is nothing "intelligent" about it -- it doesn't read with comprehension or write with coherence. It is just using mathematic probability to make things that look to it like what sentences look like. There is definitely a possible future that includes "AI" but whatever it is will not have these dumb language imitators as any part of its ancestry.
420 brah
It's like the government, man, wants you to go to Comerica Park bruh.
It means no s should be safe from AI but you'll still be replaced because cheap but wrong is fine.
AI must be stupid or something.
Allen Iverson
Ai doesn’t understand grammar
Google just wanted a reason to put 420 in there twice.
Ai. Still working that bugs out.
What's to explain?
420 lol
I've got this, OP: Ignore the AI result. Skip past it. It's quite literally *always* wrong.
AI is silly?
Deep center at Fenway is also 420
Blaze on
It’s AI. AI is usually shoddy
AI is dumb
The AI is too high as well. 
A(h)I(gh)
AI is drunk
Fenway is 420 and to the left side of the triangle it's like a 15ft wall gotta be the hardest HR in the MLB
As of 2023, the outfield dimensions at Comerica Park in Detroit are: Left field: 342 ft (104 m) Left-center: 370 ft (110 m) Center field: 412 ft (126 m) Right-center: 365 ft (111 m) Right field: 330 ft (100 m) Outfield walls: 7 ft high, except for the camera well in the right-field corner
The Department of Redundancy Department is active today.
Google is run by idiots killing their own product.
Fenway park is 420 cf
Your mom has the deepest center field got em
your dads bullpen is much deeper
Fuck
It happens…
Fenway is 420 deep Center
As soon as it threw in metric units you knew it would wrong.
Clearly the result of common core math.
Polo grounds were even bigger once upona time right? Iirc
Deep center. Not sure what’s the longest. That’s a long drive to center. Miggy crushed them all the time
AI got its degree in walking the fish
Comer is Moves the fences on shortly after it was built because former MLB player Juan Gonzalez whined like a pussy about the size of the outfield
The irony is it’s actually 430 feet. Tiger Stadium (it’s predecessor) was 440 to dead center. Comerica came in at 430 but the number scared ownership that home run hitters wouldn’t want to play there, so they labeled it 420. They had to move the fence closer in left field and left center also for the same reason. The original fence is behind where the bullpens are now.
Explanation: AI doesn't understand what it is saying. Ever. It might sometimes look like it makes sense, but AI cannot tell the difference between sense and nonsense, it just provides what it is trained to generate, the most likely text based on their model. It does not know what baseball is. It does not know what Comerica Park is. It just knows to look for the wiki's associated with those strings and supply some of the strings contained on those pages.
Sounds like Comerica Park is deep as f*ck
Because it’s AI generated and just regurgitating words it found somewhere that have an answer to the question.
Until a few years ago the field I played high school ball on had a 440 center. We could run batting practices both ways at the same time with thundersticks.
Hmmmmmm
So does Fenway not count because its deepest point isn't straightaway center?
Dunno, not sure why it wouldn’t count. It’s not right field or left…
My most unpopular opinion about baseball is that it's ridiculous that there are different dimensions to ballparks. No other sport can even be even a few inches off or it creates a shit storm but baseball is like "you want your CF 20 feet further than others? Go for it!"
Only thing in the rule book is base paths and pitching mound to home. I think it’s the most interesting part about the game.
Which is?
That the fields are not the same everywhere
Gotcha. As I said, it's probably my most unpopular opinion, but I hate it. I just don't understand why everyone is OK with Baseball being different than literally every other sport in that regard.
I don’t think it would affect the outcomes too much. The weather has more of an impact than field dimensions.
I think it would affect the outcomes quite a bit. One foot can be the difference between an out and a score.
It’s not going to affect it as much as weather and altitude. For example, Coors Field regardless of who plays there batters get on average an extra 15 to 20 feet of distance on hits because of altitude. The average amount of hits per year in ball parks is between 3800 and 4500 hits. But so much plays into that depends on how good or bad a team. But vast majority of the ball parks get between 4000 and 4200 hits. I don’t think that would change too much if all of the fields had the same dimensions.
Sure. And, if I'm honest I would prefer to have all games played in domes as well. But for the better of the sport it should be in different cities and domes are expensive so that's something that's easy to accept as the benefits far outweigh the detractions. And Coors Field is the only one with a real appreciable difference. >But vast majority of the ball parks get between 4000 and 4200 hits. I don’t think that would change too much if all of the fields had the same dimensions. It's not about the number of hits, it's about the result of those hits. The Royals have long had a "pitchers park". One year they tried moving the fences in 10 feet to hit more home runs but it backfired with the opponent hitting way more HRs and they moved it back the next year. But something Royals fans and bloggers often do is put overlays of shorter parks on year long spray charts and they almost always result in multiple players hitting more homeruns. I don't think it's unreasonable to imagine moving the fences in 10 feet having a game-changing impact on 5-ish games a year.
That’s a terrible take. It’s one of the things that makes the game amazing
I did say it was unpopular. Haha. But I think what makes the game amazing is the strategy and skill of the players more than arbitrary field sizes. I just don't understand why baseball has to be different than literally any other sport when it comes to standard field size.
You obviously don’t realize that soccer pitches are different sizes in the professional leagues
Hmm. Like within each league? Like the EPL has fields of multiple sizes? I know the World Cup demands all fields are the same size.
Different clubs within the same leagues have varying sizes
Well that is also dumb. But not quite as dumb as baseball. Unless they also have different goals sizes and different penalty kick distances, etc?