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Comfortable_Eye2686

imo, there isnt much of a difference in livelihood, since its just another capitalist country(partially-mixed economy), but a handful of cultural differences like traditions, festivals and history. My friends who lived in the US say they dont find any major differences between the two except the fact that they miss mongolian meat when theyre in the states.


Hastur13

Can you point me in the direction of any of those festivals or traditions that you were talking about? I'd love to look into those a little more.


21stcenturynomadd

Naadam, tsagaan sar for starters


temuulen91

This reply is most likely from a sheltered person who lives in the city. All redditors are city people. A whole different life in the countryside, i also am a city boy. So can't tell you much. Maybe one of the tour guides can help you better.


Imaginary-friend3807

Still city folks are like 50% of the population. So good enough representation. And countryside herders are scrolling facebook while herding their sheep.


EggPerfect7361

You will find us really westernized, at least by Asian standards. Young people love the culture, music, and entertainment of the USA, and are a bit more progressive, at least in the cities. Our original cuisine is basically Khorkhog (you can call it barbecue) and other meat dishes that are kind of bland, so Korean, Chinese, and French foods are pretty popular here. It's been many years since I was in school. It looked like any Russian school, often because the buildings were old and mostly focused on language and math. There wasn't a culture of having extracurricular activities, and the only sport we did was basically hooping. Mongolia is pretty small in terms of population, which has its own advantages. We must have like a thousand times more livestock than our population. Herders live comfortably, and other than copper and gold, we should be the top cashmere exporter. People say infrastructure is bad, but by third-world country standards, at least we have roads to every major city and village. It's cold during the winter, so everyone lives in apartments since it's more efficient with central heating. The average salary is just around $1000, but people seem to be able to live comfortably. Rent is cheap, and it's even cheaper if people can get government-aided mortgages. I would like foreigners to know that Mongolia is pretty safe unless you come during winter. It will constantly be colder than -30 degrees Celsius, and if you don't wear something similar to hiking gear, hypothermia is possible within 10 minutes. Haha.


Grandonomia

On reddit, you’ll find the most culturally westernized portion of the community. They likely come from middle to higher earning families, studied at private schools, and have friends that live abroad. They will find their lives not too different from an average US resident. But that’s a minority in Mongolia. I’ll introduce you to a bit of the other kinds of people. Starting from the capital city, Ulaanbaatar, you’ll find your luxury brands, big shopping malls, tall buildings in the city centre, and the wealthier districts/areas. But leave them, and you’ll see quite a portion of old, soviet residential buildings. When Mongolia was trying to officially gain independence from China, we received lots of assistance from them, eventually gaining heavy influence from Russian culture, architecture, and politics. That’s why today, you’ll see remnants of that influence. Old people today often speak some levels of Russian, some pursued higher education there, etc. We were a socialist state until the 1990 revolution, too. Russian influence is now almost extinct. Get farther away from the city centre to the outer areas of the city, and you’ll see thousands of Mongolian Gers (yurts) in makeshift fences, in what’s called “Ger Khoroolol.” This is the more underdeveloped portion of the city. There are no road infrastructures, sewer systems, and connected water supplies there. The insides of these properties often include one to two Mongolian Gers (they’re cheaper), a pit toilet, and probably a car. About 60% of Ulaanbaatar residents live in such districts. This is a result of recent migration from the countryside to the city, where the housing prices are higher. And these are the main source for air pollution, which is a significant problem for Ulaanbaatar in the harsh winters. Now here’s what your students are likely more interested in. The nomads! About 30% of the Mongolian population still live a nomadic lifestyle. They move their yurts several times a year according to the weather, finding appropriate locations for each weather. Nomads herd sheeps, goats, cows, horses, and two-humped camels in the Gobi region. They often eat traditional Mongolian cuisine, consisting of many, many different parts of meat (hearts, livers, legs, and heads to name a few), incredibly diverse forms of dairy, tsuivan, and Mongolian dumplings. You’ll also find them keeping rather hostile guard dogs named Mongolian Bankhar, to fend off natural predators such as wolves and foxes, and historically, thieves. They’re quite adorable though, once they stop violently barking at you. For media nomads love, I’m not sure. But there are many areas with no access to the telecommunications networks, not to mention internet. Nomads tend to live in such areas, and from my experience, the younger members of nomad families go to nearby villages to scroll on Facebook for a bit. Facebook is huge in Mongolia. I’m clueless about how they spend their free times, though. Although Mongolian culture is not too diverse among the 3 million inhabitants, you’ll find reindeer-herding Tsaatan people in the far north mountainous areas around Khuvsgul, eagle-hunting Kazakh minority in the far west in Bayan-Ölgii, and Buryat people along the border with Russia, who have their own Mongolic language, and many more. Though not in Mongolia, there are millions of ethnic Mongolians living in the Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region of China, with distinctive accents, a bit more Chinese influence (opposed to Russian influence in Mongolia), and the use of traditional Mongolian script. (We in Mongolia unfortunately use the Cyrillic script thanks to Russia.) Feel free to ask anything regarding Mongolian culture and lifestyle, I’d be more than happy to answer :). I hope I was able to help you teach your students about our beautiful country.


LookingForwar

OP, most of the people responding here are clearly westernized young people who are from the capital. It is a legitimate perspective but far from the whole story. Life is different in many ways here from the US—especially outside of the main cities. There is a vast divide in equality between public school and private school education with the former having classrooms over capacity and criminally underpaid teachers. Many rich families from all over the country send their children to go to school in the capital due to the inequalities in rural to urban education as well. One of the best things here compared to America is how incredibly safe it is. There is some violent crime, but for the most part you can wander around at night without much fear of people assaulting you.


Tsukkino_

1. Life is fine. 2. We go through high school then decide if we should go university or college. 3. I like to play Valorant, chess and cycling 4. I like egg fried rice 5. I like to watch videos about WoTLK, Valorant, Stand-up comedy, and many many shorts 6. I wanna let them know to send dollars because here in Mongolia 1 dollar equals about 3 thousand tugriks and our monthly salary is on average 300-500$


AndyDeRandy157

You play chess? Mind if i ask how good are u?


Tsukkino_

Very bad but I like to play chess regardless the elo


Achtai15

2100 elo


Dopipo

Modern day Mongolia has nothing that interesting or different from US, I ve lived in the West Coast for a year and it felt pretty similar apart from the economy. So in short Mongolia is what US would feel like if people looked asian and architecture was Soviet and economy was shit. (I know people think think economy is alrd shit in US, delulu)


Tsukkino_

delulu frfr


FishballJohnny

To me it just feels like Soviet Colorado, without the ski crowd.


Huskedy

Depends, whose life u asking?


Hastur13

You I guess!


Huskedy

Life was shite in mongolia. I moved. Turns out grass is truly greener in some cases.


Hastur13

What sucked about it? If that's okay to ask.


Huskedy

Pollution levels certainly puts the capital in the top 10 or 20 worst cities in the world. The air quality is downright hazardous in winter. Traffic is the worst ive ever experienced. Takes 1-4 hours to crawl ur car a couple miles. Bad healthcare, bad to average education, retirement is a joke because the state social security is a scam. Bureacracy has gotten definitely better since 10-20 years ago but its still garbage. Unfortunately corruption is rampant and systemic. The country is relatively tiny with only a 3.4 mil population, the majority is still poor despite a comically large amount of resources.


KnownAd8466

The damn death worms are a problem. Otherwise we are doing fine.


Imaginary-friend3807

Those live in apartment blocks -no different than any other asian city life. Facebook is the most popular social network. You can shitpost about anything and everyone. It is total anarchy and freedom in that regards. Not much internet regulations. YouTube and insta is also huge. Tik tok is not that big, Fb reels is more popular. Biggest streaming site is Netflix although there are many mongolian knockoff sites. When it comes to gaming, dota and csgo are the biggest with many tournaments. (Like company sport events include those 2 when it comes to eSports) Consoles are not popular at all, just PC games. People stopped carrying paper money or even cards. Every vendor or taxi driver is accepting mobile payment. Highest earners are those in mining industry. (Or corrupt government officials through bribery) Poorest ones are doctors,teachers and firefighters/ police force. Those live in outskirt city- no difference except their house is not connected to central water,heating and plumbing system. They have to burn a coal during the winter. Countryside nomads- well they are definitely not living in apartments. Also they don't have 9-6 job and they have no stress of traffic and air pollution. They do have satellite TV, electricity generator,a car and a motorbike. Also if you live near the settlement areas your phone has internet connection. They are scrolling facebook too. When it comes to holidays,of course no western religious holidays like Christmas, thanksgiving or easter. Instead we have days like Chingis khans birthday, Buddha's birthday . But the biggest,grandest holidays are New year, lunar new year and Naadam.


macgube

I still carry paper money and cards


Amsentooki

For typical mongolian food I like is buuz with the soy sauce. For fun, I just hang out with friends, play some basketball, or go to a pc. For media, I really just like to watch Western youtubers and listen to european or American songs and stuff like that. For school, I don't really know. This country is not just the shity capital and stuff the countryside is peaceful and beautiful. This is my life, so yea, others will be different


Hastur13

Thanks for answering! Do you live more in the country or in the city?


Amsentooki

I live in 1 of the 3 major cities. But I really like the countryside. It's just peaceful, quiet there. Compared to the cities


Gandantegchinlen

as someone grew up mongolia and moved to the US as a high school junior, i find both cultures to be very similar even the environment/the city area


Hastur13

What parts of the culture are similar in your experience? I was talking to some Australians recently and came to the same conclusion.


Gandantegchinlen

the clothes, food we eat, entertainment and stuff we watch online and the overall vibes are very much influenced by the western culture i’d say


Hastur13

Interesting. Were there any noticeable points where it differed? Like you could report something to your Mongolian friends or American friends about the other, and they would be intrigued?


Gandantegchinlen

the education system fs. once you’re placed in a class in 1st grade, you’re gonna have to be around the same 30-40 kids every single day for 12 years straight unless you transfer. also we have to take 20+ classes each year starting from middle school BUT i think it’s dumb since the universities don’t even look at it for admissions


Hastur13

Damn! That's a lot. How varied are the classes? Like different branches of math, multiple histories? Why such a high number?


Gandantegchinlen

from what i remember, the mandatory classes include mongolian, mongolian script, literature, english, math (integrated), bio, chem, physics, geography, health, history (integrated), social science, art, design technology, information technology, pe, civil ed, and a few other electives. although it’s a high number of classes, pretty much all of us get a’s an b’s without even trying (the teachers just grade us based on what kind of students we are lmao)


Rigor_Mortis_43

All subjects I remember. It's from public school and privates usually change these up with other subjects - Mathematics (1-12) ------------------ - Mongolian (1-12) - Mongolian script (6-12) - Literature (6-12) ------------------ - Chemistry (6-11) - Physics (6-11) - Biology (6-11) - Geography (7-11) ------------------ - Social studies (6-11) - Civil education (1-12) - History (6-12) ------------------ - English (5-12) - Russian (7-9) ------------------ - Physical education (1-12) - Health (6-12) - Music (1-9) ------------------ - Architecture (10-12) (Dunno the translation) - Design and technology (6-12) - Arts and crafts (1-5) ------------------ - Information technology (6-12)


Val_Valerie

Ion like it here


DinnerRadiant9615

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soniuch

when you throw a bunch of questions like this, i feel like we are a study object, like prehistorics or uncivils. we r no different man, we have everything you have and ofc more


IcelandicEd

It’s good to swap stories. We all learn something.


soniuch

yeah, but he could have done in a nicer way, imo. just felt a bit offensive about his writing style.


Hastur13

Sorry, man, just trying to be polite. And I've found everywhere is a bit different than everywhere else while having similarities. My students were genuinely interested in Mongolia, and I wasn’t fully equipped to answer them. I felt my best route would be to talk to people who live there. Truly meant no offense!


Medium-Comfort-9651

Life in Mongolia is very gichii my friend. Writing straight from the gichii streets of Ulaanbaatar.


Xulllan

Aside from western culture, we are pretty much influenced by other asian cultures. Everyone knows some k pop stars, our TVs are filled with Korean,Chinese dramas. And some teenagers are addicted to manga,manhwa,manhua. It might be because we use to be nomads. We absorb and adapt really quick. So it is easy to make something trend here.


macgube

Manhua and Manhwa are the same thing btw, also not all people are fans of k-pop or korean/chinese dramas.


Tamirtj

We still ride horses, no electricity or whatsoever


Hastur13

I'm assuming you're using reddit by consulting the stars in traditional methods?


lgtv354

depends on the type of lifestyle. nomadic lifestyle is totally different than typical city lifestyle.


Hastur13

I've kind of gathered as much. In general, the kids I teach are just hungry for anything. The nomadic life fascinated them but they also had many questions about Ulanbaatar and city life that I really wasn't super prepped on.


lgtv354

well i grew up in a darker side of UB so i dont have anything positive to speak about. its basically the hood of UB. we call it ger horoolol. school is same like any type of schools in the any country but with more drugs and fighting. sniffing glue, sniffing butane gas, smoking weed was a common occurance back in the 2010s public school.


Hastur13

What's the deal with the bad side? Organized crime or mainly poverty and drug use? I've heard a lot of people mention drug use so far.


lgtv354

yea its poverty and drug use. no large scale organized crimes.


Substantial_Hope9913

Don’t go to Mongolia in summer it floods way too much


Hastur13

Somebody else told me to not go in winter because of temps. When should I go then?


Substantial_Hope9913

Autumn or spring it’s more stable in those seasobs


Hastur13

Good to know!


Substantial_Hope9913

The good thing is that in Mongolia there are not too many crowds and there are usually spaces for you to sit in restaurants all the time and also I advise you to come in late spring since the ice usually doesn’t melt until after February and January or sometimes spring can become cold weather.


Substantial_Hope9913

I heard that Mongolia is now literally suffering a lot from climate change not to mention the coldness in winter so please pack rubber boots for summer and some warm cloths in winter


DailyLaifu

its like other modernized countries except super poor. i know that sounds weird but it is what it is. i feel like the capitalism also corrupted simple mongolian minds massively. i used to be proud mongolians were honest people. not anymore. my grandpa keligeng was the founder of inner mongolia and handed the place over to china because of he thought that's what would be best, comradery was a diff thing back then and the mindset was 'the friends we made along the way'. now ppl are the same like everywhere, just wanna live nice life and hoard resources. i would like foreigners to support mongolia in preserving their heritage better, since they're being swallowed up by china, russia, n mormons. mongolia actually also has some of the most beautiful sights in the world besides grasslands. they have oasis, mountains, deserts. i would like easy access to those places but without the intrusion of littering.


Spirited-Ad-8002

Less developed Scotland but drinking like Germany, Hungary, Ireland (combined)


buyansanjaa

so in mongolia city is same as any other city US and all the other cities. Basically not so much difference there. But I grow up in slumdog side of the city and know bit about countryside life. I only bought condo last year. It is kinda weird and bit different cause plumbing and sewage is still not developed or not at all in slum areas. I carried 60 litre water every week and there is stray dogs everywhere and they shit on streets all the time. way too many drunk hobos walk like zombies. Kinda scary at night also bit funny in the sunny days. Also because of no connection to heat plant every house in slum burn semi processed coal. back in 2017 ppls just used to burn raw coal. Its still goddamn nasty the way these works. burning it and fume etc. City and slum will be covered in nasty fume and smoke all through winter. These coals are unbearably toxic and people die every year and nobody gives a damn. Winter they burn fine but spring or autumn it is challenging. Mongolian autumn so so cold some year october is like -20. On top that UB is probably one of the coldest cities in the world. So yea simply slum life is bit though around the city. Country side is bit similar to slum in some way but even more brutal in some cases. Cause if you are herder who has livestock. Then you gonna herd those almost everyday. Sometime some of them gonna get lost and you go after them walking or ride a horse to find them. But mostly herders riding motorcycle to find them nowadays. In country side ppls mostly ride motorcycle. Last decade or so country side is developing and those countryside has well developed cities. They are great. Its just countryside life is wild in lot of way. Because of population is so sparse people life differ one another. Some part of the country might be even empty. But there is lot of freedom in Mongolia. Cause in America when you buy things or owning always cost tax. Well yea we have tax of course but its not outrageous like us or UK. People point out Mongolian festivities like Naadam, Tsagaan Sar (Lunar New year). Yea those are great. In my opinion its not that out of the world crazy difference there. Just feast is little bit different but mentality in that time is great. Because of it is really our culture. People really get to feel rested or hammered up. ahaha. But tradition is very cool. Even korean or asians are lunar year is different than us. Those traditions set us apart from those asian countries. But again there is still lot of similarities and city life is same to any other country.