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dirtyLizard

* Reinforcements for both sides pop into existence from their respective spawn points, **not from the edge of the map**. If you’re winning, don’t push too far or you’ll be surrounded by peasants instant transmissioning around your lines * Hold high ground if you can. * Cavalry should either be mopping up stragglers or chasing archers around, not charging lines. * Your reward for managing your archers well is that they’ll run out of ammo. It’s ok to retreat just to rearm. * Don’t fight unless you get cornered or you see an opportunity to take on an enemy lord 1v1. You’re the only person on the map with a working brain. Also, it’s super boring watching the fight play out when you can’t interact.


ColFantastic

Can you expand upon the archers rearming? You mean like fully retreat, and then re-engage for another battle? Or is there a special thing to get more ammo for archers? My horse archers in particular ALWAYS run out of arrows.


rainyfort1

I think if you run far away from the battle you can Tab, retreat with some losses, and then come back


Borsten-Thorsten

you can just F1-F6(i think it is) to give order retreat. And everyone will run back to edge of map.


Dangerous-Swim8909

This is for retreating specific troops from the battle, but continueing the battle otherwise. If you want to retreat the whole army and re-enter the fight, you have to to over TAB->Retreat.


Obvious-Hunt19

F1-F7 F6 is LISTEN TO YOUR SERGEANTS or whatever Which… now I think about it, could use adjustment. Perks say “Captain” (of a troop) not sergeant


WeeklyStranger5329

Archers can pick up arrows that are on the ground so sometimes you can restock a bit by moving them to where you had a shield wall get shot at a bunch then they should restock a bit. Its not a super reliable method though


DaManWithNoName

I’m a big Battanian guy so I like to get my archers on a hill, with shield men in front of them, and I’ll have my mercenary cavalry just follow me as I go on charges to loosen up the enemy as they advance


Obvious-Hunt19

Sweeping that front like a wiper


DaManWithNoName

I actually tear up the archers and distract cavalry As their infantry pushes toward mine up on the hill, my archers rain hell. If they start to get close, they have to fight uphill against my superior melee. My cavalry and I just keep weakening them up until I send my infantry and cavalry on a charge to kill survivors


Obvious-Hunt19

Same - 4 (cav/HA), F1-F2 (follow me), and I usually end up just stalling and butchering their foot and my infantry rarely see action at all. I’m often at 70/30 archers to infantry so i reallly want to keep those Fians shooting and not swinging. I’d rather lose a few cataphracts to shield infantry since Fians will get 4+ kills apiece if they just shoot the whole time Friendly fire would wreck the whole game’s strat, but it’d be an interesting challenge to do something other than just keep the Fians safe while they murder everyone


NukleerGandhi

Overall great suggestions, one i might add is AI pathing is utter shit if you're using cav archers don't f1+f3 because rather than running rings around the enemy they'll run into a spear and die, move them around with f1, and if the enemy line is charging towards your center, just get them behind they'll mop up everything


Nibaa

f1+f3 causes them to charge into melee, f1+f4 causes them to engage, keeping them at a distance.


dirtyLizard

f1+f4 works with archers too. They’ll “skirmish” and try to shoot while keeping their distance. It’s a little janky though, sometimes they’ll run back and forth looking for the optimal range instead of actually shooting


Nibaa

Yeah and they'll occasionally start retreating if a few enemies break through which can cripple your damage output.


NukleerGandhi

Huh, didn’t know that thanks niba


Trickster570

If you use cavalry to flank and hit from behind the infantry, that works too.


IrregularrAF

Just charge your archers. Reinforcements will come faster and every unit is replaceable. You don't have an army when you're broke. You can have them hold a line again after the frontline troops die off.


James_Donut

Didn't know that about reinforcement! But does explain some stuff. Also thanks for all the advice!


TexasArbiter

Dont die.......no seriously. Everytime i go down my sargents suddenly lose command and everyone charges


James_Donut

Yeah, seen that happen a few times in my game aswell :c So many red pop ups Will keep myself safe!


James_Donut

Update: I did not keep myself safe :c But the battle was won!


lightgiver

Javelin to the face?


NovelPlatform1641

Stupid singular high ranked infantry man in the middle of a horde of recruits sniping me off my horse from 50 yards away somehow missing the fifty cavalry surrounding me.


Dramandus

The one legionary becomes Agent Smith mid battle and just launches at you and only you.


NovelPlatform1641

Dude straight up abandons the fight to kill you.


SeekeroftheBall

It took me a minute to learn I’m more effective alive giving commands than dead after rushing in for a few kills


MooseClobbler

Every commander ever since like 1740


smallfrie32

But the glory!!


Obvious-Hunt19

Troop captain tactics skill 4tw


StrategistOne

F1, F6


wcruben

Facts haha. F1, F6 and get out there and make a difference


TerranceWheel

Enemy never expects it


Stelinedion

What do these buttons do?


Rundownthriftstore

F1 highlights selected units, but I’m not sure what F6 does off the top of my head. I’m an F3 man myself, which is just the charge order


SFDessert

F6 gives the order for the AI to take over. They'll charge, pull back, just do whatever the enemy AI usually does. F3 charges. By hitting F1, F6 you just say something like "you guys do whatever you think is best. I'm gonna do my own thing." F1, F3 is usually not the best tactic is you're feeling lazy. F6 at least usually works exactly as well as what the AI is doing for whatever that's worth. I'm an F6 guy unless the enemy is actually dangerous in which case I'll usually do a bit more micromanaging until it's clear I've won the battle. Then it's 0, F1, F6 or F3 if the enemy is obviously broken.


Rundownthriftstore

I run around with Mamelukes and khuzaits, F3 works fine for me 90% of the time lol. But that’s a good tidbit to know! I’ll try it out


operath0r

Here's another one, archers on advance (f4) will try to keep max distance. Not necessarily the best option however.


Obvious-Hunt19

Bowmen work better with F4 than xbowmen do - crossbowmen running around basically never stand still long enough to load and shoot


operath0r

A couple of bowmen on f4 will do wonders against small bands of looters


Obvious-Hunt19

Truth, but in a hugeass battle like OP’s I wouldn’t trust F4. Maaaaybe F6 once I’m personally too involved in murderin’


NedTebula

I just F6 then make a beeline for their cav so I can shoot all the horses. Fuck your lance charge. Then when they finally try and come after me or attack my cav, I go to the archer line and smack dudes with an axe until I die lol


geral88

F6. Is not bad.. Horse archer will do kiting, skirmishing and charging sometimes... Its not bad choice for Horse archer. For cavalry F1 - F3 to Enemy archer... Then F1 further.. Dont put fallback or return to prior position. Change to Skein Formation then charge again


Poro_the_CV

F6 is let the AI command them


UnfoundHound

Let's the AI take command so you can go on your one man killing spree.


Only-Detective-146

Give command to the sergeants.


ReallyRiles55

So everyone keeps saying that but for me F1, F6 is ‘stop’ if you are talking about ‘delegate command’ that’s F3,F4.


[deleted]

No no, treat this like warfare, losses will be lessened, just my 2 cents. Only F6 upon enemy approach to your lines, full AI leads to high losses but it’s certainly an easy approach. Stem it by following traditional warfare tactics using F6 as an engagement over F3. Letting the AI takeover is not a great way to stem losses and win a battle.


SlickerWicker

The issue I have found is that unless you have a ton of horse archers, you generally aren't going to be able to harass enemies into attacking you. In this case it looks like his army chased them down, as the AI generally runs if the approaching army is more powerful. This means they are going to sit there infinitely. So OP is going to have to take the fight to them.


James_Donut

Thanks for the advices folks! Just finished the battle and won by a good margin! In the end their losses were 3 times ours! Casualties were 267 - 820! :D Though I did use F1 + F6 for a good portion (It is 1200 so just followed the advice to let the sargents take command), but I did place my Infantry and Range manually first and commanded them for some parts of the battle, but at the end F1 + F6 for them too! I did get stabbed down, but by that point we were close too the end anyways. In conclusion, Victory! I will try some of the other advices for the future, was one of the most fun battels I have had! Edit: Got 71 kills (mostly archers I swooped around behind the enemy) before I fell so was still worth it! Highest I have ever gotten! :D


Borsten-Thorsten

I used F1-F6 in the beginning a lot as well, the i switched to placing my units carefully. Archers on "Engage" so they position themselves in a position where they can shoot and fall back when enemys engage. Infantry on shield wall pushing the enemy. Cavalry "Follow me" and i take out the enemy cavalry protecting on flank, then the other flank. so its always 100% of my cav vs 50% of enemy cav. Then i let Infantry charge when they are close and i position my cav. behind the enemy lines and let them charge as well. Hammer and Anvil them suckers.


1__For__1

This is the way


PeeterTurbo

Break into that settlement and defend instead


S-BRO

F1, F3


Regular-Ad5912

Stick them with the point end


MarquisDeCleveland

Line your infantry up somewhere good and then line your archers up at a kind of obtuse angle to your infantry. Have them stand back a little bit. The lines will look kind of like this, but with the archer line creating an even larger angle: \\ \_\_\_ If you set things up right, and make sure your infantry line is closer to the charging enemies than the archers are (so that the infantry is targeted) your archers will have an absolutely devastating crossfire into the enemy’s main body. Use your cav to screen your archer’s flank and keep a close eye on them so they can be pulled back behind the infantry if their part of the battlefield starts getting too hot.


James_Donut

I have tried this before and it works great! Tried it here aswell, and used that spear head formation for the infantry. I don't know if this was the right use for it, but just needed a way to protect the archers. Was a slanted battlefield btw. But that cav thing have I never tried before! Will definitivly give it a try next major battle! Thanks for the advice!


Marlobrand0

Just win


AlaricAndCleb

"f1+f3" -Sun Tzu


I_LIKE_ANUS

Depends on troop types and the map you get


Shoddy-Introduction2

Just give command to the Sargents the AI for them is pretty solid.


flyingboarofbeifong

Seconded. Even once you get a hold of managing larger armies and deploying effective formations, it is still hardly worth it unless you are up against a particularly difficult battle or you really, really want to crush someone for havng raided a caravan ages ago.


Khar_Raven

Here's one: if you use chopsticks while you eat you consume your food in amount that easier for your organs to digest. Your welcome, bro.


tirion1987

F1F6.


Bingleton34

What does this do? I play on Xbox and I see this comment a lot on this post


Reddit_evo

gives command of the army to the ai


Bingleton34

Ah right. If you know what the buttons are on Xbox for the command that would help. I hate having to pull my cavalry out of a charge against the enemy archers while I’m trying to smack someone on the head with a billhook


knucklesotoole

i think it’s rb then down on the right stick, if it’s not down you should see it


Puzzleheaded-Draft-3

on pc f1 brings up the command menu so I can make them do shield wall or etc


Kodiak_King91

Don't die early on


brellllll

Banners and captain perks make ALL the difference


No_Refrigerator9066

As Sun Tsu said "F1 + F3"


cantaffordinsurance

charge all archers let all your infantry hang back and put you cavalry’s right behind the infantry in a shield wall


ScrotalApocalypse

fuck em up


LordDallax

Keep in mind that you are the commander in that battle, not some invincible death bringer so be careful and try not die till the near end.


Thedanishnerd98

F1+f3


Frausing0403

0 + f6 and don’t die


CycleZestyclose3510

Give em hell


Stefanikjesef

Press F1 and then F3 and you will win and sun tzu himself will commend your strategic performance


External_Extent_7492

I just do the “follow your sergeants” command and I don’t lose


Responsible_Dare_250

But who are the sergeants


SandyCandyHandyAndy

Dilos who is a dipshit peasant that is apparently a “Imperial Veteran” 6 hours later after I dumped some armor on the road


Obvious-Hunt19

The weapons and especially armor -> XP machine is absolutely broken OP. One swing through Battanian villages connected to castles, one through Sturgian anything, gather scrub troops and same day have a shitload of Fians and heavy infantry with a single battle’s worth of loot. It’s nuts, I stopped slowing myself down with t6 prisoners with this one simple trick (Armor more than weapons so you can smelt those bitches for your smithing crew)


Responsible_Dare_250

Is that like an actual feature in the game or is it some kind of thing you jus made it up 😭


SandyCandyHandyAndy

Its a stewardship perk, and its a BLESSING


Mittenz98

FIGHT!!!!! AND WIIIIIN!!!!!


sarlaacpit

Pikes in front, archers behind!


Charming-Antelope-53

I see what you did there...


SandyCandyHandyAndy

This is called the Rhodok mindset


theghostofbeep

Stickem with the pointy end.


Creative-Duty-8567

Don’t loose😂👍💜


GamnlingSabre

I know the battle is over but here some things for you to know. All the tips of the other players here stand. However, while it's vital to stay a live at all cost, your personal performance can drastically impact a fight and even turn it around if your skill is appropriate even on the highest of difficulties. I had legendary battle, with thousands of troops in the beginning, which had me dismounted halfway and in the end fight 1vs 10 cataphracts alone. If I went down it would be a hard hit for me and for the kingdom, but I prevailed. So work on your individual combat skills.


Agreeable-Avocado423

I usually charge alone to against the enemy CAV , i try not to charge facing them but getting them from behind and making them stop or divert and letting them chase me , while my infantry , archers and CAV kills theirs , usually i kill around 20-25 before them leaving me eventually and join thier army but after their army being shattered already


Academic_Nothing_890

Cavalry


diazmanu03

press 0, f1 and f3, like a true chad strategos, and if this fail alway can go ctrl+alt+f4


Tobi-Or-NotTobi

Kill them with the pointy pointy end.


BanjoMothman

With that disparity you can just "send troops" and generally be okay in my experience.


Jack21113

I typically do 1-2 shield walls that are next to/near each other that’ll funnel the enemy between them, archers in 2 loose formations behind them, then a wing of Calvary in a skein on each wing of the army which I send one after each wing of the enemy Calvary formations, then horse archers can kinda just do anything. It’s easy to setup/control, I know there’s much crazier formations but this is simple and works


naliao

set groups up decently, use companions w banners well. I do group 1 is main infantry w 70% of total inf. generally 3 man deep shield wall group 2 and 3 is 15% blocks that wait on the sides of group 1 to pincer. shield walls until group 1 is engaged, and advanced then. group 4 is archers, ideally spread on a height advantage 5 is cav, which should be used to prod and skirmish (at least until you know its safe to charge them) - but better yet, wait til their archers are exposed and use cav to wipe them.


PekarovSin

Don't lose


Responsible_Dare_250

command everyone to charge n hope you dont lose


Proof_Spell_4406

Just win baby


Ollbee9

Shriek like a banshee.


mjmjuh

Like others said: F1 F6. Doesnt matter what you do, no way in hell youre going to lose. Take a walk in nearby woods if thats what interests you


Drawn_to_Heal

You gotta make sure you kill more of their guys, than they can kill of yours


akira989

F1+F3 is always a good start


KingDark1122

I know it's over, but what I usually do Is place the archers on a high ground, the inf at the bottom of that high ground, I keep my cav at a safe distance from the fight, and when the enemy inf engages my inf, I send my cav to their archers, and with my horse archers I shower the enemy inf with arrows from behind.


5herl0k

F1, F3


BladesongDev

Less talking, more raiding!


discourse_friendly

Don't get anyone killed.


Ok-Comfortable-1372

Hill, shiekd wall at bottom, archers in middle, cav solit in two amd flanking either side of the arny at the very top at the hill


OGZilla_

Just hit f6 and hope for the best


Stovewatch3to5

-0 -F1 -F3


Apprehensive-Pass525

Yeah let your troops do most of the work cause when you die they just all rush the enemy and get killed quicker


hawaiianpunchohyeah

Don't die, you lose when you do that.


Signal_Engineer141

Charge!


Bloomdale

How did it go? I’m so far into this game that I have amassed 11,3Million gold, still a clan and have been hitting the rebels to get their towns. Married Ira and got 3 daughters that I have given away to Sarranid, Sturgian and Northern Empire. So if done right. My family will inherit the thrones after a couple Coupe’s 🫣


Ok-Pace8815

click send troops and win in 1 sec, easy peasy