I think it was overhyped more than overrated. It was successful in the box office and I hope this encourages studios to make more dramas instead of what we're having.
This. I remember all the hype was that it had to be seen in IMAX. All for an underwhelming explosion that lasted a couple minutes. Good movie but not near Nolan’s best for me.
This. Oppenheimer got an insane amount of hype and the pendulum swung backwards until it became trendy to shit on. The same thing’s gonna happen to Dune 2. Two movies I’d call overhyped but not necessarily overrated
Both movies suffer from being two clean halves of the same story. One ends right in the middle and the other starts in the middle of things, both are awkwardly structured. Compare with Peter Jackson who took an axe to the structure of LOTR to make three films that each stand on their own
I have a theory about why that is. I genuinely think people are afraid of discussing the method.
I’ve seen physicists begin to talk about centrifuging uranium and then awkwardly stopping before getting into detail. It even references arrest of data leakers in the film and how serious of a crime it is to leak this info.
It had the same "problem" that Once Upon A Time In Hollywood had. If you went into the movie without interest or background knowledge about this time in history you were lost.
Overrated is an annoying word. It’s a criticism totally divorced from the film in question and instead focused on its reception. If you don’t like something just say you don’t like it and why
Movies can be highly rated, underrated, and yes overrated. To be overrated a movie has to have an unrealistic rating. I haven't heard anyone say Oppenheimer is the best movie ever, or the best movie of the century, or even the best movie of the decade.
People say Oppenheimer was the best movie of 2023 that seems reasonable. It generated close to a $billion dollars in revenue. At an average of $10 per ticket Oppenheimer sold 100 million tickets. That seems pretty popular.
Life is about accomplishments. No matter what you do in life, nobody can take away your accomplishments. If you graduate from Harvard or Oxford and spend the rest of your life driving a taxi, nobody can take away the prestige of graduating from an elite university.
Oppenheimer won the Academy Award for Best Picture, won the BAFTA for Best Picture, won the Golden Globe for Best Picture, won the PGA award for Best Picture, won the Critics Choice award for Best Picture, the National Board of Review for Best Picture, in total it won over 320 awards. It's one of the most awarded movies in history. At $1 billion dollars it's one of the Top 100 box office in the history of movies.
No matter what you think, you can't take those accomplishments away from Oppenheimer.
I agree with u bro, it was def overhyped idk about overrated, I expected something way different than what I saw. I expected a thriller with a central theme being a race to develop the bombs before the axis’ but nah it was like an autobiography that was pretty boring imo. Idc if there’s not much action, just don’t be so boring. Also a bit confusing with the trial and interviews… I give it a 5.510
And you're allowed that opinion. Who would have thought, opinions are very subjective? I would agree with only one of your assessments, and it was the first. But that's ok, we're allowed to have differing opinions.
Nolan movies are a must for me, everytime he makes a new one I pay my ticket, go to the theater, and I never get dissapointed. However, I had to do an extraordinary effort to not fall asleep watching Oppenheimer.
I had to watch it twice and since I’d been smoking both times I’m not sure I’ve caught everything yet. I knew the general story. That said, I found his guilt off-putting. It’s almost like he was trying to stay important. The Japs started the war and two rounds of testing didn’t sway the emperor to end it. At that point I think it becomes a duty to keep your doubts to yourself and focus on helping your side avoid needless casualties. MAD has worked for almost 80 years, and the only reason it may fail now is because petty people like Putin and Trump and Kim would allow their delusions of grandeur to end civilization and quite possibly the planet itself.
Edit: Oops, got a bit carried away. Please excuse me.
Just watched it yesterday. As a history buff it was pretty good but I didn’t think it was that great. And it got confusing with all the post bomb dropping interviews they had Oppenheimer go through.
As somebody who feels that Nolan movies as a collective are overrated. I recently watched Oppenheimer and didn’t feel that way about it. It was probably the best Nolan film in my opinion. I think his style works really well for a movie like this. The things I usually don’t like about his films either weren’t present or didn’t impact it as much as some of his other films.
It is and that’s why I’m gonna cut myself short of calling it overrated. If there is a “most overrated film” it’s probably something with almost unanimous high regard
That is one great film but I can understand why somebody might see it as overrated, considering it constantly gets referred to as the greatest film of all time, which it is not
You’re saying it thinks it’s awesome? I don’t see that personally. Maybe the 2nd one gives off those vibes knowing the first one was good. But if you’re making a brand new movie, you can’t expect that as a director. So I disagree.
I could not agree more....The idiotic parts were the whole style of "Look at the rain coming through the leaves...It represents life as we drip away" type of BS wore me out.
They tried to make a gritty war movie into some kind of artsy crap that killed it for me
I'm fascinated by this period in our history and have read several books regarding the Manhattan Project and Oppenheimer. Have also been fortunate enough to have visited Los Alamos (twice - even considered retiring there) and one day hope to visit the Trinity site.
Overall, it was a good rather than great film, Murphy and Blunt were both brilliant but, I ended up enduring rather than enjoying the film ..... didn't help that there were imbeciles who were bored with the movie, texting and taking calls in the theatre. Haven't wanted to rewatch the movie just yet .... haven't found the time and my wife will be bored rigid.
The Blairwitch Project. It was so hyped and it ended up being a piece of shit. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear they spent more on advertising than budget/rights for the film.
What? How is Crash overrated? There's an irony to that "too young" quip when it seems as if you're completely unaware of the absolute thrashing that this film received when it won best picture. The movie is just fine and most people acknowledge that. There's damn near 7-10 different best picture winners that are worse that don't receive as much hate as Crash.
It was good, but this is the movie that made me swear off of seeing a Nolan film in theaters ever again. I’ve seen his last four movies in four separate theaters and I found the music way too loud in all of them. Not just “too loud for my liking” in an atmospheric sense, I mean I couldn’t hear a single full sentence for hour of Oppenheimer because the score was blaring in every scene.
I’m not saying that everyone had this issue. Maybe your ears are more used to it than mine, maybe your theater has better speakers, but unless they offer open captioning, I’m not seeing one of his movies in theaters again. It always burns me.
Wouldn’t even make the top 25 most overrated films in history.
Edit: just to add some context as to why this film isn’t *that* overrated. This film is a HISTORICAL DRAMA that had a run time of 3 HOURS. Do you know how many people that would never watch a 3 hour historical drama now have thanks to this movie??? It was a genre changer for sure. Overrated? Def not. I think some people spend too much time on social media and got tired of the “barbenheimer” meme.
Edit pt2: it has an 8.3 on IMDb and this is “overrated?”
"This film is a historical drama that had a run time of 3 hours"
You mean like Schindler's List and JFK and Gandhi? Films that were all financial successes for their time? While also having longer running times than Oppenheimer Decades prior?
Omfg I knew someone would mention schindlers list lol. None of those were as successful as Oppenheimer so what’s your point?
The same widespread audience that Oppenheimer had def wouldn’t transfer to any of those 3 if released today so what’s your point?
Edit: eh forget it I’m done people love to hate on popular things lol
Oppenheimer had terrible structural problems. And that’s too bad because many of the individual scenes were absolutely brilliant, as were several of the performances. It suffers the same curse as any biopic: real life doesn’t play out in a satisfying narrative arc. Nolan thought he could overcome this with multiple framing devices and non-linear theme-driven segmentation. It was a cool idea, but it didn’t come together.
I still maintain that Oppenheimer could be re-edited into something brilliant, though I doubt it ever will be.
With re-editing, perhaps it would have improved. But I feel like with different direction and screenplay in particular, it could have been brilliant. The story is there, the Manhattan Project and Trinity are fascinating subjects. But Nolan the director and Nolan the screenwriter take turns sucking the life out of it. Steven Zaillian and Steven Spielberg would have hit a home run with this story.
That was when they figured out if you put DeNiro and Streep in a film, you automatically win an academy award. Cobra Kai did the same thing to John Kreese that this flick did to Christopher Walken’s character and nobody notices. Why, because Daniel San is no Robert DeNiro…
I think the problem is a lot of people had odd expectations about what Oppenheimer was going to be as a film. I think some expected the focus to be 98% on the scientific and engineering process of building the atomic bomb, but I'd imagine realistically that'd be so dry and so completely loaded with scientific jargon and technical details it'd have been completely inaccessible to 99% of the audience.
Are you serious? I would have loved it to be technical and delve into the scientific process. It was barely technical at all. One of the clear issues was that Nolan himself didn't understand the process, so he dumbed it down for a mainstream audience and padded the film to 3 hours with meaningless artificial drama.
Yes, it wasn't technical because the average person is neither a nuclear physicist or engineer. You missed my entire point which is that a movie that was just a bunch of guys standing around in a lab checking calculations and running tests would have been a truly boring film and a guaranteed flop for 99% of the prospective audience.
Meaningless artificial drama? You mean the Red Scare and the insane witch hunts of McCarthyism? Yeah, totally made it, people weren't completely ruined or jailed over being communists, that was clearly all fiction.
I liked it when I went to see it, but i definitely think it was overhyped. Its not overrated. Its a deep and thoughtful look into Oppenheimer and irs definitely a very well made movie. I'll be honest, it was a bit boring considering it was a Chris Nolan movie. It just didnt have the wow factor for me. Im glad it did well and Chris Nolan deserves the accolades he got for it. We do need more films like this.
It was hyped as a summer blockbuster from a very beloved mainstream director while it was a very long people-talking-in-rooms movie. It was really great but the marketing hype got way out of hand so some people were disappointed.
I loved it. Didn't know who he was till this movie.
I think to fully enjoy the film it's best to have an interest in science, history, and politics. But even one of those is good enough to enjoy the film.
Its hard to judge something without historical context which more time will provide. Look at the Oscars over the years, some far better examples looking through that lens.
Natural Born Killers........Absolute crap that Stone must have filmed while on Mescaline himself.
It's the only movie I have ever walked out of. The whole Teepee scene with the shitty stupid slogans put on his shirt was enough for me
Another overrated one. The whole experimental thing he had going on and Robert Richardson going ape shit with the camera detracted from an already mediocre story.
No, I think it it’s an excellent film that became so popular that there is now a backlash by a section of the hardcore film community that doesn’t want to be associated with a film loved by the common rabble. When you’re uncle whose other favorite movie is The Avengers loves it, how can you feel superior and more refined if you also love it?
You seem to agree with the overall sentiment of the average Nolan sycophant. But that doesn't seem to stop them from instantly downvoting your comment. Maybe they didn't understand it.
I'm not a member of any fictitious hardcore film community that rejects popular mainstream films. The film was just overrated and nowhere near deserving of its accolades. It wasn't even close to being the best English language film of 2023. Does it make you feel accepted to lavish praise on an undeserving film? Does it make you feel superior to surrender to the crowd and reject independent thought? Lol
Thank you for making my point with your unbelievably condescending comment. At no point did I mention any other films by Nolan, but in your desire to prove yourself my intellectual superior you had to categorize me as a sycophant. I also enjoy that you feel I “surrendered to the crowd” rather than having judged the film on my own. Your comments show that, in many ways, your judgment of the film is a reaction to “the crowd” as you label them. Was it the best English language film of the year? Who knows? That’s wildly subjective and largely meaningless. Do I think it was an excellent film deserving of praise? Yes.
It was well made but it was long as hell and in the end I didnt really enjoy it. I'd just rather read up on the dude. Maybe because I already knew the background and some of the players, i didnt get so enraptured.
It also completely eliminated certain historical events like the Demon Core incident. A three hour "epic" covering the Manhattan Project which focuses more on bullshit manufactured personal drama than actual history.
I love Nolan. But this is an overrated overhyped and overall boring and confusing for anyone unfamiliar with Oppenheimer and history of the united states in the 50s.
Its a miss
Correct on all counts. And if you are familiar with Oppenheimer and the Manhattan Project, it's even worse, because you are aware of what this film could have been. It had potential to be a masterpiece. Instead, it's a jumbled, pretentious, boring mess with a top dollar production value.
*GOD YES* thank you. This and the fucking DiCaprio flower moon jam.
It’s like *everybody* is just waiting for another movie that’ll move people like The Godfather and all we get is snooze fests.
I’m gonna be that token white dude in the comments that says I disagree! In the past decade+ we’ve had of superhero movies, (many of them brainless,) this absolutely reigns supreme. I think the only thing next to it on top of that heap is into the spider-verse
Watching The Dark Knight in a packed theater on opening night was by far the most epic cinema experience of my life. The tension and action were unmatched and Ledger was completely on another level.
Personal favorite of mine from him but partially because I do love historical movies and a biopic like this is my kind of thing. I can understand why some people didn't really connect with it though.
I'd say his most overrated is probably interstellar. Its worth seeing for the cinematography alone but I could not care less for the story and that third act was really messy.
Agreed. The subject made a much more engaging documentary than a jumbled, overlong, dramatized film, replete with the typical Nolan-esque touches. Even Roland Joffe's modest 1989 film was better than this.
I recently watched the first one and I was bored out of my mind. Visually, it’s a work of art but as far as actual story goes, it’s a total snooze fest.
The original Halloween. It gets the pass because it's the first of its kind but it's very much outdated and the characters really aren't all that interesting. It shouldn't be anywhere near the greatest horror movies of all time conversation when movies like Jaws, Alien, and The Thing exist.
I think it was overhyped more than overrated. It was successful in the box office and I hope this encourages studios to make more dramas instead of what we're having.
Nolan refusing to use any cgi for the Trinity Test really held that sequence back. The nuke from Dune 2 was far more impactful in IMAX 70mm.
I'm glad someone else said it!
I'm glad he went old school here actually
It looked like a gasoline explosion and lacked any sense of power. We know what nuclear explosions look like and this simply looked "off."
Why wouldn't he use CGI? Practical effects for an atomic bomb seems... impractical.
Nolan is stubborn when it comes to cgi despite using it to great effect in TDK trilogy, Inception, Interstellar and others.
This. I remember all the hype was that it had to be seen in IMAX. All for an underwhelming explosion that lasted a couple minutes. Good movie but not near Nolan’s best for me.
Oppenheimer would have been better as a november movie. Not a summer popcorn IMAX movie like it was promoted as.
Didn’t it almost make $1 billion?
The box office numbers disagree, but I get the point. The summer Slot was appropriate for the marketing of the movie as an event
I thought it was awesome. 🤷♂️
This. Oppenheimer got an insane amount of hype and the pendulum swung backwards until it became trendy to shit on. The same thing’s gonna happen to Dune 2. Two movies I’d call overhyped but not necessarily overrated
I think Dune 2 is overrated and filled with plotholes, but that's anither discussion.
Both movies suffer from being two clean halves of the same story. One ends right in the middle and the other starts in the middle of things, both are awkwardly structured. Compare with Peter Jackson who took an axe to the structure of LOTR to make three films that each stand on their own
As someone who loves 20th century history I found this enthralling. A movie about the potentially the biggest crossroads in human history.
I think that's it. If you knew who Oppenheimer was coming into the film, it was quite revealing.
Didn't know him. Still loved it.
Not sure why you would have to know who he was going into the movie?
Oppenheimer isn't that movie though. It's just a movie about Oppenheimer. The movie you are talking about, I would have liked too.
Except it did an absolutely terrible job of illustrating how they made the bomb..
I have a theory about why that is. I genuinely think people are afraid of discussing the method. I’ve seen physicists begin to talk about centrifuging uranium and then awkwardly stopping before getting into detail. It even references arrest of data leakers in the film and how serious of a crime it is to leak this info.
True. But that doesn‘t necessarily make for a great movie.
It had the same "problem" that Once Upon A Time In Hollywood had. If you went into the movie without interest or background knowledge about this time in history you were lost.
I disagree. I enjoyed Hollywood despite not knowing shit. It was quality content.
Friend of mine was super confused and couldn't enjoy it since he didn't know who Manson was.
Overrated is an annoying word. It’s a criticism totally divorced from the film in question and instead focused on its reception. If you don’t like something just say you don’t like it and why
Stop watching movies. The film was excellent.
No. Loved it.
Fuckin. Same.
Movies can be highly rated, underrated, and yes overrated. To be overrated a movie has to have an unrealistic rating. I haven't heard anyone say Oppenheimer is the best movie ever, or the best movie of the century, or even the best movie of the decade. People say Oppenheimer was the best movie of 2023 that seems reasonable. It generated close to a $billion dollars in revenue. At an average of $10 per ticket Oppenheimer sold 100 million tickets. That seems pretty popular.
Important true story? Yes. Great film? No. Best film of 2023? No fucking way.
Life is about accomplishments. No matter what you do in life, nobody can take away your accomplishments. If you graduate from Harvard or Oxford and spend the rest of your life driving a taxi, nobody can take away the prestige of graduating from an elite university. Oppenheimer won the Academy Award for Best Picture, won the BAFTA for Best Picture, won the Golden Globe for Best Picture, won the PGA award for Best Picture, won the Critics Choice award for Best Picture, the National Board of Review for Best Picture, in total it won over 320 awards. It's one of the most awarded movies in history. At $1 billion dollars it's one of the Top 100 box office in the history of movies. No matter what you think, you can't take those accomplishments away from Oppenheimer.
I agree with u bro, it was def overhyped idk about overrated, I expected something way different than what I saw. I expected a thriller with a central theme being a race to develop the bombs before the axis’ but nah it was like an autobiography that was pretty boring imo. Idc if there’s not much action, just don’t be so boring. Also a bit confusing with the trial and interviews… I give it a 5.510
And you're allowed that opinion. Who would have thought, opinions are very subjective? I would agree with only one of your assessments, and it was the first. But that's ok, we're allowed to have differing opinions.
I agree, and you're entitled to be wrong.
Was that really necessary?
Not even remotely. Incredible movie
Nolan movies are a must for me, everytime he makes a new one I pay my ticket, go to the theater, and I never get dissapointed. However, I had to do an extraordinary effort to not fall asleep watching Oppenheimer.
I had to watch it twice and since I’d been smoking both times I’m not sure I’ve caught everything yet. I knew the general story. That said, I found his guilt off-putting. It’s almost like he was trying to stay important. The Japs started the war and two rounds of testing didn’t sway the emperor to end it. At that point I think it becomes a duty to keep your doubts to yourself and focus on helping your side avoid needless casualties. MAD has worked for almost 80 years, and the only reason it may fail now is because petty people like Putin and Trump and Kim would allow their delusions of grandeur to end civilization and quite possibly the planet itself. Edit: Oops, got a bit carried away. Please excuse me.
Hahaha, nice comment. Love it.
Never disappointed? Guess you haven't seen Tenet
I liked Tenet 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah Tenet was great.
I watched it two times. IMO, the only dissaponting thing is the cast. I found Washington flat and souless.
So well said
Just watched it yesterday. As a history buff it was pretty good but I didn’t think it was that great. And it got confusing with all the post bomb dropping interviews they had Oppenheimer go through.
The Mcarthyism was the crux of the story, not the Trinity project.
No that title belongs to Top Gun Maverick.
The Boondock Saints It has a huge cult following and imo its a terrible film.
I like it, but yeah it’s pretty shit. Very much an action B-movie.
Great call! That movie sucked so bad.
As somebody who feels that Nolan movies as a collective are overrated. I recently watched Oppenheimer and didn’t feel that way about it. It was probably the best Nolan film in my opinion. I think his style works really well for a movie like this. The things I usually don’t like about his films either weren’t present or didn’t impact it as much as some of his other films.
Trendy to hate this movie
It is and that’s why I’m gonna cut myself short of calling it overrated. If there is a “most overrated film” it’s probably something with almost unanimous high regard
it was very boring
100% chance this guy is in high school based on comments
personally I'd say The Godfather. it insists upon itself.
Robert De Niro, Al Pacino.. Robert Duvall!
Fine..fine actor
That is one great film but I can understand why somebody might see it as overrated, considering it constantly gets referred to as the greatest film of all time, which it is not
Ok Peter Griffin 😂
You’re saying it thinks it’s awesome? I don’t see that personally. Maybe the 2nd one gives off those vibes knowing the first one was good. But if you’re making a brand new movie, you can’t expect that as a director. So I disagree.
velk I'm making a family guy refrence
Ah ok! :D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0pnwE_Oy5WI&pp=ygUUZmFtaWx5IGd1eSBnb2RmYXRoZXI%3D
well played sir!
because it has a valid point to make! it's insisting!
Amazing movie and performances.
Thin Red Line Malick should have stayed retired
I could not agree more....The idiotic parts were the whole style of "Look at the rain coming through the leaves...It represents life as we drip away" type of BS wore me out. They tried to make a gritty war movie into some kind of artsy crap that killed it for me
Thin red line was far more “gritty” than people give it credit for. Many scenes made me really feel the whole “war is hell” cliche.
I agree. I love the philosophical element to it and looked past the “all star casting” etc . Thought it was a very beautiful movie
In *history*? A movie this recent? Very unlikely.
Most overrated is “Everything Everywhere All at Once”.
Another overrated one, yes
I'm fascinated by this period in our history and have read several books regarding the Manhattan Project and Oppenheimer. Have also been fortunate enough to have visited Los Alamos (twice - even considered retiring there) and one day hope to visit the Trinity site. Overall, it was a good rather than great film, Murphy and Blunt were both brilliant but, I ended up enduring rather than enjoying the film ..... didn't help that there were imbeciles who were bored with the movie, texting and taking calls in the theatre. Haven't wanted to rewatch the movie just yet .... haven't found the time and my wife will be bored rigid.
I loved the Money Pit. That is my answer to that.
The Tom Hanks one? Not bad.
The Blairwitch Project. It was so hyped and it ended up being a piece of shit. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear they spent more on advertising than budget/rights for the film.
Well crafted and well acted but it was like watching paint dry.
It’s like everyone on Reddit is too young to remember Crash….
I think the problem is crash was derided and not the favorite to win whereas Oppenheimer was pre-ordained to win everything.
This guy has terrible memory. Most folks hated Crash winning BP.
I may be young but I remember Crash. Paul Haggis is a better screenwriter than Nolan, and Crash is a better film than Oppenheimer.
What? How is Crash overrated? There's an irony to that "too young" quip when it seems as if you're completely unaware of the absolute thrashing that this film received when it won best picture. The movie is just fine and most people acknowledge that. There's damn near 7-10 different best picture winners that are worse that don't receive as much hate as Crash.
The “Power of the Dog” exists bro.
lol no, not even close. The John Wick series is way overrated.
I felt like I was smoking crack when I came on Reddit and everyone was singing the praises of Part 4.
the first half was science and sexy. the rest was kinda boring old dudes arguing
That would be Fight Club for me.
Overrated yes.
It was good, but this is the movie that made me swear off of seeing a Nolan film in theaters ever again. I’ve seen his last four movies in four separate theaters and I found the music way too loud in all of them. Not just “too loud for my liking” in an atmospheric sense, I mean I couldn’t hear a single full sentence for hour of Oppenheimer because the score was blaring in every scene. I’m not saying that everyone had this issue. Maybe your ears are more used to it than mine, maybe your theater has better speakers, but unless they offer open captioning, I’m not seeing one of his movies in theaters again. It always burns me.
Oh, it's not just you. It's a known issue (or stylistic choice?) with his movies. People were saying the same thing with Tenet
There are a lot more overrated films than this one. EEAAO is the first to come to mind.
Im beginning to hate Nolan's formula if I'm being honest, it doesn't work for me anymore.
Agreed. He relies on formulaic storytelling.
What formula is that?
Baby formula.
I really liked it. Nolan is hit or miss. Every time he announces a new project, I'm excited, but I really don't like Interstellar, for example.
Careful, you're gonna awaken the Nolan fanboys who get butthurt every time someone makes a criticism of his films.
Yes, that's usually how it goes
Too late for that. They're already getting downvoted. People on here really don't like different opinions.
Wouldn’t even make the top 25 most overrated films in history. Edit: just to add some context as to why this film isn’t *that* overrated. This film is a HISTORICAL DRAMA that had a run time of 3 HOURS. Do you know how many people that would never watch a 3 hour historical drama now have thanks to this movie??? It was a genre changer for sure. Overrated? Def not. I think some people spend too much time on social media and got tired of the “barbenheimer” meme. Edit pt2: it has an 8.3 on IMDb and this is “overrated?”
"This film is a historical drama that had a run time of 3 hours" You mean like Schindler's List and JFK and Gandhi? Films that were all financial successes for their time? While also having longer running times than Oppenheimer Decades prior?
Omfg I knew someone would mention schindlers list lol. None of those were as successful as Oppenheimer so what’s your point? The same widespread audience that Oppenheimer had def wouldn’t transfer to any of those 3 if released today so what’s your point? Edit: eh forget it I’m done people love to hate on popular things lol
Oppenheimer had terrible structural problems. And that’s too bad because many of the individual scenes were absolutely brilliant, as were several of the performances. It suffers the same curse as any biopic: real life doesn’t play out in a satisfying narrative arc. Nolan thought he could overcome this with multiple framing devices and non-linear theme-driven segmentation. It was a cool idea, but it didn’t come together. I still maintain that Oppenheimer could be re-edited into something brilliant, though I doubt it ever will be.
With re-editing, perhaps it would have improved. But I feel like with different direction and screenplay in particular, it could have been brilliant. The story is there, the Manhattan Project and Trinity are fascinating subjects. But Nolan the director and Nolan the screenwriter take turns sucking the life out of it. Steven Zaillian and Steven Spielberg would have hit a home run with this story.
Spielberg's ship has sailed.
Disagree. He's still got a good film left in him.
It needs to happen soon and use sci-fi indirect action like in his classics (JP, ET, War of the Worlds, Hook)
I'm thinking he will hit a home run with his next historical drama.
I agree. It wasn't that great. I don't know what I was expecting, but I found it very droll.
I thought it was a great movie I loved it
Only watched it once. Enjoyed it. In general: Love RDJ.... But, can't for the life of me undertstand why he won an Oscar for this movie.
agreed. rdj playing rdj is great when u want it but, in a film where most of the actors fall into their role, its jarring to keep seeing rdj lmao
Definitely Deer Hunter, a rambling mess of a film with one memorable scene
That was when they figured out if you put DeNiro and Streep in a film, you automatically win an academy award. Cobra Kai did the same thing to John Kreese that this flick did to Christopher Walken’s character and nobody notices. Why, because Daniel San is no Robert DeNiro…
I’d say titanic.
Def in the conversation
Once upon a time in hollywood
The only critically acclaimed influential classic movie I didn't like at all was The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. The acting was specially bad
No. But other Nolan movies could be.
Titanic imo
Maybe not most, but it’s not as good as people made it out to be. Still, not bad.
It's an ok movie. Your typical biopic with a few changes. Nothing we haven't seen. Something better?! Cinderella Man, The Pianist and Milk.
Shine? Gandhi? Schindler's List?
Overrated how exactly? Every time someone’s says that is completely subjective and yet you don’t even explain why. SMH
Besides Barbie
Barbie lol. Loved Oppenheimer
Obligatory *I did not care for the Godfather* It *insists* upon itself.
That and Oppenheimer are in entirely different leagues, no, galaxies. To even equate the two is preposterous.
It felt like a good slow burner. I enjoyed it.
Definitely not MOIH in my opinion. Much better than I expected.
Op didn’t like it cos he never received the sloppenheimer part of the movie
r/okbuddycinephile is thatta way!
I didn’t love it, myself. Do I think it’s THE MOST overrated film in history? Not a chance.
I loved this film. The score is incredibly fitting as usual with his films.
I think the problem is a lot of people had odd expectations about what Oppenheimer was going to be as a film. I think some expected the focus to be 98% on the scientific and engineering process of building the atomic bomb, but I'd imagine realistically that'd be so dry and so completely loaded with scientific jargon and technical details it'd have been completely inaccessible to 99% of the audience.
Are you serious? I would have loved it to be technical and delve into the scientific process. It was barely technical at all. One of the clear issues was that Nolan himself didn't understand the process, so he dumbed it down for a mainstream audience and padded the film to 3 hours with meaningless artificial drama.
Yes, it wasn't technical because the average person is neither a nuclear physicist or engineer. You missed my entire point which is that a movie that was just a bunch of guys standing around in a lab checking calculations and running tests would have been a truly boring film and a guaranteed flop for 99% of the prospective audience.
Meaningless artificial drama? You mean the Red Scare and the insane witch hunts of McCarthyism? Yeah, totally made it, people weren't completely ruined or jailed over being communists, that was clearly all fiction.
Titanic most overrated film
Barbie. If you wanted to show male hating propaganda, you could have just said it on Youtube.
I liked it when I went to see it, but i definitely think it was overhyped. Its not overrated. Its a deep and thoughtful look into Oppenheimer and irs definitely a very well made movie. I'll be honest, it was a bit boring considering it was a Chris Nolan movie. It just didnt have the wow factor for me. Im glad it did well and Chris Nolan deserves the accolades he got for it. We do need more films like this.
I loved this movie, thought the cast was fantastic and it was pretty entertaining and good retelling of Oppenheimer’s life.
The most overrated film in movie history is St Elmo's Fire. No, I will not explain further.
All I know is that John Parr wrote the theme song for that film in 15 minutes on a roll of toilet paper.
And that's the best part of the movie!
My favorite part is when the fire engulfs Emilio.
It was hyped as a summer blockbuster from a very beloved mainstream director while it was a very long people-talking-in-rooms movie. It was really great but the marketing hype got way out of hand so some people were disappointed.
They have a cave troll
Absolutely not ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
I loved it. Didn't know who he was till this movie. I think to fully enjoy the film it's best to have an interest in science, history, and politics. But even one of those is good enough to enjoy the film.
I enjoy all three and the film was below par.
Its hard to judge something without historical context which more time will provide. Look at the Oscars over the years, some far better examples looking through that lens.
Natural Born Killers........Absolute crap that Stone must have filmed while on Mescaline himself. It's the only movie I have ever walked out of. The whole Teepee scene with the shitty stupid slogans put on his shirt was enough for me
Another overrated one. The whole experimental thing he had going on and Robert Richardson going ape shit with the camera detracted from an already mediocre story.
No.
Nope. It was compelling from beginning to end. Not necessarily for Fast and Furious audience.
Then why do the "Fast and Furious" audience seem to love it more than intelligent and thoughtful viewers?
No, I think it it’s an excellent film that became so popular that there is now a backlash by a section of the hardcore film community that doesn’t want to be associated with a film loved by the common rabble. When you’re uncle whose other favorite movie is The Avengers loves it, how can you feel superior and more refined if you also love it?
You seem to agree with the overall sentiment of the average Nolan sycophant. But that doesn't seem to stop them from instantly downvoting your comment. Maybe they didn't understand it. I'm not a member of any fictitious hardcore film community that rejects popular mainstream films. The film was just overrated and nowhere near deserving of its accolades. It wasn't even close to being the best English language film of 2023. Does it make you feel accepted to lavish praise on an undeserving film? Does it make you feel superior to surrender to the crowd and reject independent thought? Lol
Thank you for making my point with your unbelievably condescending comment. At no point did I mention any other films by Nolan, but in your desire to prove yourself my intellectual superior you had to categorize me as a sycophant. I also enjoy that you feel I “surrendered to the crowd” rather than having judged the film on my own. Your comments show that, in many ways, your judgment of the film is a reaction to “the crowd” as you label them. Was it the best English language film of the year? Who knows? That’s wildly subjective and largely meaningless. Do I think it was an excellent film deserving of praise? Yes.
It’s fantastic not overrated at all
Oppenheimer 100%
The Force Awakens.
Are you searching 'Tenet'?
…that’s not *La La Land*…
Barbie
It was well made but it was long as hell and in the end I didnt really enjoy it. I'd just rather read up on the dude. Maybe because I already knew the background and some of the players, i didnt get so enraptured.
It also completely eliminated certain historical events like the Demon Core incident. A three hour "epic" covering the Manhattan Project which focuses more on bullshit manufactured personal drama than actual history.
Hard disagree, this was a great movie
I love Nolan. But this is an overrated overhyped and overall boring and confusing for anyone unfamiliar with Oppenheimer and history of the united states in the 50s. Its a miss
Correct on all counts. And if you are familiar with Oppenheimer and the Manhattan Project, it's even worse, because you are aware of what this film could have been. It had potential to be a masterpiece. Instead, it's a jumbled, pretentious, boring mess with a top dollar production value.
Agreed.i thought it was trash
*GOD YES* thank you. This and the fucking DiCaprio flower moon jam. It’s like *everybody* is just waiting for another movie that’ll move people like The Godfather and all we get is snooze fests.
The Dark Knight. Not a bad movie, just overhyped because one of it's stars died before release.
I’m gonna be that token white dude in the comments that says I disagree! In the past decade+ we’ve had of superhero movies, (many of them brainless,) this absolutely reigns supreme. I think the only thing next to it on top of that heap is into the spider-verse
Watching The Dark Knight in a packed theater on opening night was by far the most epic cinema experience of my life. The tension and action were unmatched and Ledger was completely on another level.
Personal favorite of mine from him but partially because I do love historical movies and a biopic like this is my kind of thing. I can understand why some people didn't really connect with it though. I'd say his most overrated is probably interstellar. Its worth seeing for the cinematography alone but I could not care less for the story and that third act was really messy.
100% agree. The PBS documentary “The Trials of J. Robert Oppenheimer” is much better.
Comparing a documentary to a movie is pointless
Agreed. The subject made a much more engaging documentary than a jumbled, overlong, dramatized film, replete with the typical Nolan-esque touches. Even Roland Joffe's modest 1989 film was better than this.
THIS… and Titanic… and The English Patient. All overrated IMO.
Dune 2 came out the same year, so not even most overrated of the year.
I love when someone shits on Dune or Dune 2. It brings warmth to my cold heart.
Haha can you pass the spice please??? I absolutely love the Dune movies!
I recently watched the first one and I was bored out of my mind. Visually, it’s a work of art but as far as actual story goes, it’s a total snooze fest.
Yeah Dune 2 was good, but Oppenheimer was a better film in my opinion.
#Pulp Fiction. ^There. ^I ^said ^it.
Understandable
Definitely overrated
This one? No. But "Titanic" - yes 🤔
The original Halloween. It gets the pass because it's the first of its kind but it's very much outdated and the characters really aren't all that interesting. It shouldn't be anywhere near the greatest horror movies of all time conversation when movies like Jaws, Alien, and The Thing exist.
Big Fish Edit: sheesh, when it came out it was hyped up as Burton’s best movie