yeah, latency works the same in this sense as it does in a video game, if you have a 90ms latency between you and them, it's gonna take 90ms for the audio to make it back to you. The problem is latency isn't ever a consistent number. It goes up and down, which means even if they got 'used to it" they'd still keep falling out of sync.
Oh ok, thanks. So what I want to do is impossible? Could there ever come a time in the future when this could work ? Like if technology improved?
I’m also envisioning having the vocalist maybe appear as a Star Wars style hologram too. I heard the music industry has been doing this for dead famous musicians if I heard correctly (is this real ? Maybe I got fooled by an Onion article haha)
The problem also is that the vocalist who I collaborate with over internet who lives very far from me is irreplaceable. They’ve sung on my finished and released albums and they are absolutely essential to the sound of my music. I so wish there was a way for us to play live without either one of us having to move
Technology can theoretically get latency down, but there would need to be some major breakthroughs and significant investment in infrastructure across the board,
but at a certain point you're brushing up against the speed of light and the laws of physics.
It could theoretically be done if the singer sings to a click or recording and doesn’t have live audio. And you would simply play along with his audio at the venue. Latency issues solved. I feel like it would be worth testing. But you would both need SOLID internet connections. He would count in. And you would fallow his tempo.
Ya latency is the issue. Even if you could creatively get it lined up, there can be fluctuations or jitter in the latency to make it even more challenging/unrealistic.
We practice remote. Except we don't rehearse live I send them the tracks that will be played through the DAW live. Left channel is click and vocal cues (goes to the in ear), right channel goes to the PA. They show up to the gig rehearsed. We've been doing it long enough we trust each other.
the latency would kill it drastically.
Oh ok, so my remote live/rehearsal band member would lag behind me and any other people in room with me or onstage with me?
yeah, latency works the same in this sense as it does in a video game, if you have a 90ms latency between you and them, it's gonna take 90ms for the audio to make it back to you. The problem is latency isn't ever a consistent number. It goes up and down, which means even if they got 'used to it" they'd still keep falling out of sync.
Oh ok, thanks. So what I want to do is impossible? Could there ever come a time in the future when this could work ? Like if technology improved? I’m also envisioning having the vocalist maybe appear as a Star Wars style hologram too. I heard the music industry has been doing this for dead famous musicians if I heard correctly (is this real ? Maybe I got fooled by an Onion article haha) The problem also is that the vocalist who I collaborate with over internet who lives very far from me is irreplaceable. They’ve sung on my finished and released albums and they are absolutely essential to the sound of my music. I so wish there was a way for us to play live without either one of us having to move
Technology can theoretically get latency down, but there would need to be some major breakthroughs and significant investment in infrastructure across the board, but at a certain point you're brushing up against the speed of light and the laws of physics.
Ok thanks. I’m glad I know about all this now
No, not unless it's just a recording.
I’d say just send demos back and forth. No way to rehearse live. And keep communicating well and consistently.
It could theoretically be done if the singer sings to a click or recording and doesn’t have live audio. And you would simply play along with his audio at the venue. Latency issues solved. I feel like it would be worth testing. But you would both need SOLID internet connections. He would count in. And you would fallow his tempo.
Ya latency is the issue. Even if you could creatively get it lined up, there can be fluctuations or jitter in the latency to make it even more challenging/unrealistic.
We practice remote. Except we don't rehearse live I send them the tracks that will be played through the DAW live. Left channel is click and vocal cues (goes to the in ear), right channel goes to the PA. They show up to the gig rehearsed. We've been doing it long enough we trust each other.