I hope this Luka kid pans out. He’s off to a decent enough start. Bum missed all NBA his rookie season and had to settle for rookie of the year so who knows.
who did the league gift to the Lakers exactly? I am always fascinated by these braindead talk points. AD Joined after the Lakers literally outbid everyone, including themselves. LeBron wanted to come to LA, and Lakers fits his brand, so who else? Is it Pau? Who was 1x all NBA player? Lakers were shit between 2013 and 2018
? They had so many lol
* Magic
* Shaq
* Malone
* Payton
* Fisher
* Artest
* Lebron
* Wilkes
* Rambis
That's way more than some franchises ever got and that list is excluding washed/old players like Dwight, Bogut and Rando. LA is by far a more attractive FA location compared to some other orgs.
You guys suck and then have to go through literally one year of ‘rebuilding’ then just get all the top FAs.
Some fan bases have been rebuilding for a fucking decade and the lakers have the luxury of ‘rebuilding’ 5 times in a decade when they want
You don’t see how some fan bases would find that annoying? Dealing with rumours that their home grown guy is eyeing LA the whole season
Then you have guys leave Reaves signing deals for under market value cause he wants to stay in LA.
Are you done venting? One year of rebuilding between 2012 and 2018? Or the mid 90s one year rebuilding post Magic?
Who are the Top FAs that the Lakers got in the last 30 years?
Magic could have retained Shaq if they weren’t cheap
LeBron came to LA for business, so enlighten me about the top FAs?
Lakers rebuilt once in a decade because Jerry West is a genius and drafted a top 10 players of all time. The same way Dallas rebuilt once in the decade after drafting Dirk.
Who makes these rumors? The league? Lakers fanbase? Its the same shit every player is linked to the Knicks.
And the cherry on top of this dumb comment, nobody, literally nobody offered shit for Reaves. A lot of teams could have offered a max to fuck with the Lakers to match, but no one did.
You should be mad the league gave Wembanyama to the spurs and not to Luka.
Imagine wemby and Luka in Dallas??
Also Laker fans have respect for Dallas fans since 2011, don’t ruin that lol
I mean, that speaks more to other organizations than the lakers….
Again, what top FAs? They traded for AD and 33 year old Lebron is the only one in the last decade that signed with them. Kids here act like the memes about Luka and Giannis going to LA are real and not memes….
Gee, I donno… maybe the all time GOAT lebron? That sort of changed your franchise direction a bit
Edit: nice edit to include lebron in your post when you originally didn’t lmao
Nobody predicted he was still going to be top 15 now. Y’all have been predicting the man to fall off for a decade now.
Hating the lakers is trendy, but yall circlejerk on this sub worse than the actual circlejerk sub
Magic Johnson was litterally a gifted draft pick. The Jazz signed Gail Goodrich as a free agent and then later on the league, trying to prevent free agent signings, forced the Jazz to give up 3 first rounds picks. The Jazz were unaware at the time of signing what they would have to give up.
Are you done fabricating histories for morons to applaud your ignorance?
Here is a simple timeline,
Lakers had Kareem, and were in fact a great team. Missed the playoffs because the rules
Lakers drafted Magic in 79
Goodrich went to the Jazz in 76
77-78 seasons both Goodrich and Maravich were injured; hence their shitty record.
You are stupidly arguing that league, knew two years in advance, that both players gonna get injured, and Magic will be so good in college to get drafted at number 1 before he even went to college. Do you hear yourself?
It’s especially funny given we have a known example of the league BLOCKING a trade to the lakers. Gifted, my ass. The small market owners are so bitter there’s always a Lakers tax for any trade if not downright refusal to trade at all.
When he didn't mention every players who gets minutes on the wolves I was so mad. Jmac IS a superstar in my heart. And whoever that Afro guy is on the end of the bench, he's our best cheerleader.
It’s gonna be the Thunder Timberwolves Grizzlies and Spurs conference for the next decade
Feel bad for a lot of those other teams who are tom a be good but won’t have the talent to compete with those 4. Hopefully the league gives Cooper Flagg and Cam Boozer to the Wizards instead of a West team and moves the Timberwolves or Grizzlies to the East like you said
Even if Cooper Flagg goes East, there are going to be trades from East to West as always. For one Donovan Mitchell going to the East from West, we have 2-3 players going in the opposite direction, like big-3 from the Nets. This summer it might be Trae Young.
Spurs post Duncan/Kawhi is really bad. They just lucked into another first pick which is Wemby. Still not high with their franchise right now.
Also, Pop imo should retire.
I mean they tore everything down last year and Wemby is their only top 5 pick so yea its not too much rn. But they're getting another top 5 pick to give Wemby a co star and have alot of assets
I think it's still too early to tell. Unlike the 4 remaining teams in the playoffs, Spurs still need too many things before being considered as top dogs for the next 5 years.
Pop will retire soon, uncertainty with how well they will draft and San Antonio not a really good FA destination.
Dude averaged 27 ppg on 65% TS as a 20 year old and had 40 in his playoff debut. He just needs to stay healthy but he's already arguably a top 5 pure scorer in the NBA
He was playing great defense at the end of the season too. Legitimately was an impact defender. Also he played 70 games. He was healthy just got unlucky with the timing of his injury.
NBA tried so hard to make Tatum that guy, but it came naturally for Ant, and frankly, if he wins the chip this year, he will become the new face. He's already been compared to Jordan. Chip = new face, chip + finals MVP= start of goat talk...3 years in the league and if he can accomplish that, then yes, he deserves all the consideration for all the conversations
People hating rn prob only watch timberwolves during playoffs. But ant is goat/commander of his team literally is a game changer. I don't think he's ready yet but another 3 years top if not on wolves somewhere else. Timberwolves tbh are my favorite to win.
Memphis, Denver, OKC, T-Wolves, Mavs, I have those 5 making the playoffs next year with NO MAJOR INJURIES.
Fighting for 6-9 I can see New Orleans, Pheonix, Kings, maybe Houston?
You have to ask yourself if you're the Clippers, Warriors, Lakers is it time to blow it up? Maybe even Lebron retire before he looks bad out there? Unless these teams do something major in free agency, I can see the younger teams running laps around these guys.
Even a team like San Antonio will be harder to face because Wemby got better 2nd half of the year and they have a lot of cap room to bring in help if they want. The only really bad team in the west next year will be Portland
The skill ceiling of the NBA going to increase a lot over the next 5y. It’s not enough to be a very good team anymore. Crazy to say this in an era saturated with greatness already
Booker deserves to be in the “future superstar” list, he’s put up better playoff numbers than every player you named expect Luka over a sustained time period.
I just separated it based on age groups notice Jokic is in the 2nd group too. Booker is a few years older than Luka and Shai and pretty much a different generation than Wemby and Ant
Also I worry about the Suns ability to put a competing roster around him
Uhm yes. Played 70 games, 23/5/6 on 61% TS% with incredible defense down the stretch. Led his team to 49 wins in maybe the best Western conference ever. What more did you want from him?
He played 85 games in three seasons. Also he brings nothing to the table but bullying his way to the left or right of the basket and throwing up a layup. Can’t even make a shot. What game are you watching there boi
He literally dropped 40 in his first ever post-season game along with a healthy season. He had a different role this season and Pelicans have scorers like CJ, BI, Trey Murphy on their team in case you think he isn’t worthy of being here because of his low ppg. Luka has Kyrie and rest of the team are not scorers. Ant has KAT and rest aren’t scorers. Ja has JJJ and Bane and rest aren’t scorers. Pelicans have a deep team that doesn’t rely on 2-3 guys. It’s not that Zion’s a bad player compared to these guys you put any of them instead of Zion on that team their numbers will probably go down. Obviously they would still have better numbers than Zion and possibly a better record than how they finished with Zion but still they wouldn’t produce as much in the Pelicans as they did in their own teams.
Ok guys you’re right. Getting swept by OKC, scoring 40 points in a game that is already over is definitely making me think ZION is the gawd. Hell if I had a gun to my head and I was starting an NBA franchise with the first pick - ITS ZION SON!!!!
Cannot wait for him to bully his way head down to the basket and throw up a Hail Mary gonna be sick to watch
What exactly bro? He got injured when the game was tied and he had 40 of the points when team had 95 points at the point he left the game. He was carrying the team bro, obviously they had no chance against a healthy OKC team. If you trying to say that he’s injured a lot he literally played 70 games bro. That injury wasn’t even that serious and he actually said he had a chance to come back during the series but the Pelicans couldn’t do shit. Never gave Zion a chance to return.
That’s sweet of you to include BI.
Shai and Luka are already superstars. I mean Luka will be 5x all NBA first team after this season which is the same as Steph Curry.
1 more than Curry…
Luka just too good too early and people now just assume what he does is normal
I hope this Luka kid pans out. He’s off to a decent enough start. Bum missed all NBA his rookie season and had to settle for rookie of the year so who knows.
He’s too fat too be good, decent role player at best imo
This list will expand once the league gifts Tatum, Embiid, Maxey, Haliburton, Mitchell, and Giannis to the Lakers and Warriors as a bailout
Ain’t no one bailing out the warriors after curry gone lol that was a one time thing. Warriors got no aura. Back to mediocrity
Eventually they'll have a new star leading their team in some years. It's always interesting to see a team get a new identity like that.
Being mentioned in the same breath as Lakers is funny.
yeah the lakers made the playoffs this year
Yall not Lakers level yet but Curry brought in so many Warriors fans that the league can't risk letting them go back to poverty status and losing them
who did the league gift to the Lakers exactly? I am always fascinated by these braindead talk points. AD Joined after the Lakers literally outbid everyone, including themselves. LeBron wanted to come to LA, and Lakers fits his brand, so who else? Is it Pau? Who was 1x all NBA player? Lakers were shit between 2013 and 2018
Idk about gifting but LA has always been an attractive destination for obvious reasons.
How many top FA chose the Lakers over money elsewhere? KD literally refused to take a meeting with Lakers FO before joining the warriors
? They had so many lol * Magic * Shaq * Malone * Payton * Fisher * Artest * Lebron * Wilkes * Rambis That's way more than some franchises ever got and that list is excluding washed/old players like Dwight, Bogut and Rando. LA is by far a more attractive FA location compared to some other orgs.
You guys suck and then have to go through literally one year of ‘rebuilding’ then just get all the top FAs. Some fan bases have been rebuilding for a fucking decade and the lakers have the luxury of ‘rebuilding’ 5 times in a decade when they want You don’t see how some fan bases would find that annoying? Dealing with rumours that their home grown guy is eyeing LA the whole season Then you have guys leave Reaves signing deals for under market value cause he wants to stay in LA.
Are you done venting? One year of rebuilding between 2012 and 2018? Or the mid 90s one year rebuilding post Magic? Who are the Top FAs that the Lakers got in the last 30 years? Magic could have retained Shaq if they weren’t cheap LeBron came to LA for business, so enlighten me about the top FAs? Lakers rebuilt once in a decade because Jerry West is a genius and drafted a top 10 players of all time. The same way Dallas rebuilt once in the decade after drafting Dirk. Who makes these rumors? The league? Lakers fanbase? Its the same shit every player is linked to the Knicks. And the cherry on top of this dumb comment, nobody, literally nobody offered shit for Reaves. A lot of teams could have offered a max to fuck with the Lakers to match, but no one did.
You should be mad the league gave Wembanyama to the spurs and not to Luka. Imagine wemby and Luka in Dallas?? Also Laker fans have respect for Dallas fans since 2011, don’t ruin that lol
I mean, that speaks more to other organizations than the lakers…. Again, what top FAs? They traded for AD and 33 year old Lebron is the only one in the last decade that signed with them. Kids here act like the memes about Luka and Giannis going to LA are real and not memes….
Gee, I donno… maybe the all time GOAT lebron? That sort of changed your franchise direction a bit Edit: nice edit to include lebron in your post when you originally didn’t lmao
33 year old lebron…..and that’s ONE guy….youre arguing about ONE guy, who was 33, repeat that, 33……
Oh my god stfu
You first troll
…. And he’s nearly 40 and is still a top 15 guy in the league….
Nobody predicted he was still going to be top 15 now. Y’all have been predicting the man to fall off for a decade now. Hating the lakers is trendy, but yall circlejerk on this sub worse than the actual circlejerk sub
This is America and not a communist country you have a right to pursue the most lucrative and attractive job you can get, this is not the 50s…
>1x All NBA This is like complaining that the bag wasn’t a Berkin, just a Louis Vuitton.
Magic Johnson was litterally a gifted draft pick. The Jazz signed Gail Goodrich as a free agent and then later on the league, trying to prevent free agent signings, forced the Jazz to give up 3 first rounds picks. The Jazz were unaware at the time of signing what they would have to give up.
Are you done fabricating histories for morons to applaud your ignorance? Here is a simple timeline, Lakers had Kareem, and were in fact a great team. Missed the playoffs because the rules Lakers drafted Magic in 79 Goodrich went to the Jazz in 76 77-78 seasons both Goodrich and Maravich were injured; hence their shitty record. You are stupidly arguing that league, knew two years in advance, that both players gonna get injured, and Magic will be so good in college to get drafted at number 1 before he even went to college. Do you hear yourself?
Austin Reaves and DLo
Lakers drafted Reaves and DLo no one wanted him you numbnut
It’s especially funny given we have a known example of the league BLOCKING a trade to the lakers. Gifted, my ass. The small market owners are so bitter there’s always a Lakers tax for any trade if not downright refusal to trade at all.
The NBA draft is small market welfare… is and has always been
Embiid is a liability
Bro you forgot Naz Reid.
Naz Reid.
When he didn't mention every players who gets minutes on the wolves I was so mad. Jmac IS a superstar in my heart. And whoever that Afro guy is on the end of the bench, he's our best cheerleader.
I highly doubt Jokic will play into his upper 30s
He’s got horses to feed
if he doesn’t it’ll likely be because of injury or no motivation to play, his game translates really well with age
The young talent in both conferences is incredible. Most talented the league has ever been
The league is certainly ripe for expansion
Bring back the Sonics!
Yeah but the Bulls have Coby White
He’s good dude, hoping you guys are able to capitalize and build around him instead of your fo choosing purgatory again
KG said it best
Well my Pistons are going to give Tobias 100 million so the east is pretty loaded too.
Skimmed the first two lines and thought this was a parody of Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer
Jdub has superstar potential but he needs his own team
Big fan of jdub Game man. Big athletic body with real skills and defensively versatility
As a fan of an eastern team that’s rebuilding Im so grateful lol, you guys can have fun over there
yep, its all up to celtics for the east
Don't sleep on Magic. They're led by a sophomore player.
It’s gonna be the Thunder Timberwolves Grizzlies and Spurs conference for the next decade Feel bad for a lot of those other teams who are tom a be good but won’t have the talent to compete with those 4. Hopefully the league gives Cooper Flagg and Cam Boozer to the Wizards instead of a West team and moves the Timberwolves or Grizzlies to the East like you said
Even if Cooper Flagg goes East, there are going to be trades from East to West as always. For one Donovan Mitchell going to the East from West, we have 2-3 players going in the opposite direction, like big-3 from the Nets. This summer it might be Trae Young.
So what you’re telling me is Ja is fine in the west?
Joker just turned 29. Wolves, Mavs, Denver and maybe Okc are still the only promising franchises there.
Spurs?
Spurs post Duncan/Kawhi is really bad. They just lucked into another first pick which is Wemby. Still not high with their franchise right now. Also, Pop imo should retire.
I mean they tore everything down last year and Wemby is their only top 5 pick so yea its not too much rn. But they're getting another top 5 pick to give Wemby a co star and have alot of assets
Does a top 5 pick get you a superstar co-star though? This draft seems incredibly weak to me
I think it's still too early to tell. Unlike the 4 remaining teams in the playoffs, Spurs still need too many things before being considered as top dogs for the next 5 years. Pop will retire soon, uncertainty with how well they will draft and San Antonio not a really good FA destination.
I’m a Memphis fan. We are done.
Send Memphis east.
Kyrie too
Cute how OP thinks Lebron will be retiring in the next 5 years or so
League policy says one conference can't eat all the loaded nachos
I feel like this sub needs flairs like the NFL subs. There’s no context behind comments and it’s hard to tell a bias
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This man doesn’t know Zion
Bro really said Zion 💀
He looked unstoppable wa you mean
Dude averaged 27 ppg on 65% TS as a 20 year old and had 40 in his playoff debut. He just needs to stay healthy but he's already arguably a top 5 pure scorer in the NBA
He was playing great defense at the end of the season too. Legitimately was an impact defender. Also he played 70 games. He was healthy just got unlucky with the timing of his injury.
Bed against zion second half of this season and you would have lost your shirt
Average non-NBA watcher
Ant is literally going be face of nba in next 3 years. I bet even better than wemby.
NBA tried so hard to make Tatum that guy, but it came naturally for Ant, and frankly, if he wins the chip this year, he will become the new face. He's already been compared to Jordan. Chip = new face, chip + finals MVP= start of goat talk...3 years in the league and if he can accomplish that, then yes, he deserves all the consideration for all the conversations
People hating rn prob only watch timberwolves during playoffs. But ant is goat/commander of his team literally is a game changer. I don't think he's ready yet but another 3 years top if not on wolves somewhere else. Timberwolves tbh are my favorite to win.
If they can beat the nuggets, I think they will win it all...they have all the pieces
This does not even matter… Who cares in the free agency era… players move around This East vs West is silly, the conference setup is for logistics
The West has been better than the East for 30 years now. Just too many bad FOs in the East compared to the West
So what…
So….the west is better than the east?
If it is… so what
I’m not sure, you seem to be the one making a big deal about it. Everything ok?
Memphis, Denver, OKC, T-Wolves, Mavs, I have those 5 making the playoffs next year with NO MAJOR INJURIES. Fighting for 6-9 I can see New Orleans, Pheonix, Kings, maybe Houston? You have to ask yourself if you're the Clippers, Warriors, Lakers is it time to blow it up? Maybe even Lebron retire before he looks bad out there? Unless these teams do something major in free agency, I can see the younger teams running laps around these guys. Even a team like San Antonio will be harder to face because Wemby got better 2nd half of the year and they have a lot of cap room to bring in help if they want. The only really bad team in the west next year will be Portland
The skill ceiling of the NBA going to increase a lot over the next 5y. It’s not enough to be a very good team anymore. Crazy to say this in an era saturated with greatness already
Zion tho?????
Booker deserves to be in the “future superstar” list, he’s put up better playoff numbers than every player you named expect Luka over a sustained time period.
Booker is already 27 he's more present star instead of future
I just separated it based on age groups notice Jokic is in the 2nd group too. Booker is a few years older than Luka and Shai and pretty much a different generation than Wemby and Ant Also I worry about the Suns ability to put a competing roster around him
I want OKC to go Red Wedding and get PG13 this summer. Even if it's an overpay, those LAC picks become super valuable.
You forgot my boy Sharpe
Zion…? He’s averaging 28 games after only 4 years…? He’s like young too lol
Uhm yes. Played 70 games, 23/5/6 on 61% TS% with incredible defense down the stretch. Led his team to 49 wins in maybe the best Western conference ever. What more did you want from him?
He played 85 games in three seasons. Also he brings nothing to the table but bullying his way to the left or right of the basket and throwing up a layup. Can’t even make a shot. What game are you watching there boi
You sound like the same type of idiot that says Giannis has no bag.
Wait what? Did Zion develop a mid range shot or something recently? Please enlighten me I would pick Zion to be my 6th man for sure tho boo boo
Cringe troll.
Damn I definitely know now nobody in your world messes with you. Insane person to be around.
He literally dropped 40 in his first ever post-season game along with a healthy season. He had a different role this season and Pelicans have scorers like CJ, BI, Trey Murphy on their team in case you think he isn’t worthy of being here because of his low ppg. Luka has Kyrie and rest of the team are not scorers. Ant has KAT and rest aren’t scorers. Ja has JJJ and Bane and rest aren’t scorers. Pelicans have a deep team that doesn’t rely on 2-3 guys. It’s not that Zion’s a bad player compared to these guys you put any of them instead of Zion on that team their numbers will probably go down. Obviously they would still have better numbers than Zion and possibly a better record than how they finished with Zion but still they wouldn’t produce as much in the Pelicans as they did in their own teams.
Ok guys you’re right. Getting swept by OKC, scoring 40 points in a game that is already over is definitely making me think ZION is the gawd. Hell if I had a gun to my head and I was starting an NBA franchise with the first pick - ITS ZION SON!!!! Cannot wait for him to bully his way head down to the basket and throw up a Hail Mary gonna be sick to watch
That game was tied when he got injured, what are you on about? He was literally willing his team to a victory. Do you even watch ball?
He got swept ? Edit* - in the first round
He didn’t play a single minute in the first round. Again, what are you talking about.
Exactly
What exactly bro? He got injured when the game was tied and he had 40 of the points when team had 95 points at the point he left the game. He was carrying the team bro, obviously they had no chance against a healthy OKC team. If you trying to say that he’s injured a lot he literally played 70 games bro. That injury wasn’t even that serious and he actually said he had a chance to come back during the series but the Pelicans couldn’t do shit. Never gave Zion a chance to return.
Ok bro!!!!! Definitely a waste of human to talk to
Whatever you say, pal. I’ve made my point.
I feel like Ant is kind of a tier above.