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panthersfan87

Bruh leave us alone we been eliminated šŸ’€


nobraininmyoxygen

Niang is 8/35 this postseason. I feel like a lot of teams have at least 1 player who is just awful in the postseason. At least Westbrook gives energy on defense.


boozinf

someone stole the catalytic converter from the minivan


Ham_-_

I remember pre-childbirth in 2019 fred was something similar


JacquouileFripouile

Yeah I remember when Harris from Brooklyn was scorching hot during the regular season and then just shit the bed in the playoffs. Feels like it happens mostly to 3-point specialists and... my boy Brick šŸ˜­


Wiltmygoat

That's still like twice as efficient as westbrook šŸ’€


DotDotBoy

Westbrook is 9/40 in the post season, so they're shooting almost the same


JMoon33

And Westbrook is the 9th highest paid player on the team, you can't put too much of the losses on him.


Sanguinor-Exemplar

He has the minutes of a starter.


JMoon33

Exactly, he's doing way more than he's paid for.


Sanguinor-Exemplar

You can sign me for 1 dollar and if I make 1 in thousand shots I'm giving you more than you paid for. Doesn't mean I'm helping the team.


JMoon33

You make no sense lol


99probs-allbitches

That's literally double Westbrooks lol


nobraininmyoxygen

Yeah but it's still really bad. Niang was 37.5% from three over the past 5 postseasons. And he's shooting 11% from three this postseason. I don't think I've ever seen such a drop off before.


SapientissimusUrsus

Yeah but, you're comparing Westbrook to Niang...


UrGirlThroatGame

dont worry, it's not a Clippers issue as much as it is a "this is who Westbrook always been" issue you're lucky he's chucking at a much lower volume now. his prime was attempting more shots than KD, Wade, Harden, Lebron, Bosh in a playoff series while shooting 13% from 3PT. or the time he missed more shots than the rest of his team COMBINED in an elimination game in 2019


growsonwalls

Ah, this makes me nostalgic for the sour stares Russ used to get from KD on the bench ...


porkchop487

He still took the most shots per minute if anyone on the clippers in the postseason. Rate didnā€™t really go down, minutes did


wsb146

No y'all have been riding this guy since y'all signed him. It's time y'all get clowned for saying he's good


PoppinglikeaHipBone

Fr donā€™t this grown ass man have a job and diet plan to focus on.


livefreeordont

Plumlee+Westbrook minutes were historic


BetweenTheBuzzAndMe

I want to know the stats for the minutes they played together. having seen Mason Plumlee basketball far too often over the last few seasons, I simply can't think of a worse fit for Russ across the entire league, in terms of play style and skill.


Insufferable-Asshat

HISTORIC! weā€™ve never seen anything like this


Briskpenguin69

His nickname is Westbrick for a reason. Please donā€™t tell Russell I said that.


BruceBrownMVP

You're disrespecting my family.


schafkj

He disrespects his family with all those bricks


southpawsouthpaw

You're attacking my family -Anthony Smith


BruceBrownMVP

WHAT


CIark

Itā€™s the ~~Lakers~~ clippers fault, heā€™s not on the right fit team for him. ~~Lebron~~Kawhi is asking for him to do things that donā€™t fit his game and it took his joy away. Russ is still a good player just wait til he gets ~~off that max contract~~ to Charlotte where heā€™s really valuedĀ 


CP3sHamstring

yeah I mean the Clippers rotations were absolutely cooked with Kawhi out/being 10% of himself and Russ being completely useless as the backup PG. Definitely were not able to field the lineups they wanted to lol think Theis was injured too or something because the Plumlee minutes made no sense whatsoever.


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livefreeordont

Pretty sure they got Theis because nobody else wanted him but he was much better than Plumlee all year except against certain teams where the clippers really needed that size


JimmyKanine

Plumlee supposedly took a paycut as well. Only reasonable explanation is that Ty Lue felt bad about Theis taking Plumleeā€™s job due to an injury and gave him his spot back. Or he promised him the backup spot so that he would re-sign.


Insufferable-Asshat

Plumlee and Westbrook was the worst two man duo in the playoffs


UrGirlThroatGame

and Harden being ass as always as the pressure ramps up late in the series


CP3sHamstring

game 4 and 6 were the two highest pressure games of the series. he carried game 4 and was fine in game 6. game 5 was his only bad game. shut it lmao


Some-Stranger-7852

He had 16 points on 5-16 shooting in Game 6: donā€™t know if it qualifies as ā€œfineā€ even if he did have 13 assists.


QuestionsForYou92

fine != fire


UpVoteThis4

The man is 34, about to be 35. He canā€™t bring the A game every night, but Iā€™d say 16/13 is pretty good when youā€™re suppose to be the third guy but are asked to do a lot more. Iā€™m not a harden guy and he has an abysmal playoff record but I think he stepped up in multiple games this playoffs, the team just didnā€™t do it with him.


DotDotBoy

He shot 7/28 for Game 5 and 6


UpVoteThis4

He shot 19/30 in Games 3 and 4 while basically single handily winning 4 for you. Heā€™s 34, he canā€™t put the team on his back every game, but I get the disappointment after being eliminated


CP3sHamstring

harden was a 16 ppg scorer all season that bumped his averages up to 21.2 points a game on 62% TS the entire round games 1-4 he was elite and lead the league in scoring efficiency for anyone averaging over 25ppg game 5 was a bad game. game 6 was a bad scoring game, matching his regular season point average but on bad efficiency (still miles better than WB) but also had an elite playmaking game with 13 assists and 1 turnover and he lead the team in steals+blocks you are clowning around if you aren't going to give him the credit as the best player on the team when he was meant to only be a facilitator lol WB fans do not understand basketball man. it's crazy. their downfall from "RUSS SHOULD BE STARTING" to "YEAH BUT RUSS IS COMING OFF THE BENCH SO IT DOESNT MATTER IF HE SUCKS" has been brutal to watch


DotDotBoy

Don't forget 2-12 in game 5 with 4 turnovers


CP3sHamstring

what do you mean "don't forget" it literally says game 5 was a bad game thirsty mfer


Temporary-Level-5410

Because compared to his usual elimination game stats, that is pretty good for him!


livefreeordont

People always forget about push off P


porkchop487

Harden 62% TS on 22ppg. Westbrick 34% TS and took more shots per minute than Harden. But go off I guess


ImS33

Nah Harden honestly played pretty well overall. He did his job but everyone else that mattered kind of left him hanging. Its probably really hard to be aging out of your prime and try and run an offense when everyone around you is just missing in action just about every game of the series. I think he is definitely the least of the clippers worries


CrazyPersonXV

What do you mean it's not russes fault ? He is a professional basketball player , it's his job to make baskets . Also it's not like they aren't leaving him wide open , 4-32 , hell I could have hit a shot or two with the looks he was getting


PointBlankCoffee

Well, his age isn't his fault. It's not his fault that Lue and the Clips gave him so many shots lol


yousonuva

It's his fault to stink up his team, old or young


PointBlankCoffee

I agree, I was thinking of the only possible things that weren't his fault lmao Tbf if an NBA team wanted to pay me $4m a year to stink it up I would do whatever they told me to do


yousonuva

If they wanna pay me $4m to wipe the players asses, sign me up. I got eyelids and can just think of England lol


PointBlankCoffee

Fuck all that, if they pay me 4m to wipe players asses, I will be the best ass wiper this planet has ever known. Gonna be so clean you could eat off them


Ilikesporks_

you can't fathom that despite watching him play for a year?


DotDotBoy

Hes a rockets flair who's frequently in the clippers sub, he was only watching one player lmao


Insufferable-Asshat

Itā€™s funny bc when Russ was in the H everyone said he was still elite bc of his numbers, but then I saw whenever he went to the bench, the team had a higher net rating despite his 27ppg. I truly believe replace Russ with a guard that can shoot, and Houston could have gone 7 against the lakers in 2020


KaiserKaiba

Both of those can be true. He was still a good (tho declining) player, and Houston played even better when he was on the bench. Houston going 7 with LA depends on the caliber of player youā€™d be replacing Russ with more so than simply just replacing Russ with a shooter. LA didnā€™t trail in that series for like 106 straight minutes. Lakers was also running HOU shooters off the 3pt line throughout that series. Iā€™m curious who do you have in mind? If it was Bogdanovic instead of Russ? Bogi can shoot but LA ainā€™t getting taken to 7 with Bogi in over Russ. If it was say PG instead of Russ, itā€™s possible. Itā€™s a talent and shooting upgrade. Only issue there is PG is very hit or miss in the post season.


Insufferable-Asshat

I was talking about a player who could shoot that was on the level of a 2020 Russell Westbrook level player if that makes any sense. I think I would even go as far as if you replace Westbrook from that year with Jaylen Brown from that year we couldā€™ve maybe gone six games insteadof five. If we got 2021 Paul George instead of 2020 Westbrook, we win that series in my opinion.


Dingusmelon

That team has no shot vs the 2020 Lakers. You're def smoking something else


UpVoteThis4

Username checks out


nomadrone

So what that he was 4-32 fg, but at least he is out there having fun.


yasminnaturalboobs

well before he was dominant inside the paint even as a pg with his explosiveness but now he is losing that athleticism, it exposes his weakness outside


Insufferable-Asshat

Westbrook has never had an efficient playoff run even with all that ā€œexplosivenessā€


Quirky-Sentence-3744

Heā€™s better than harden without half the foul baiting šŸ˜¹šŸ˜¹šŸ˜¹ Swap westbrook and harden in houston he wouldā€™ve gone all the way


AkatsukiWereRight

Wild to say about someone who has had no playoff success on any of his 5 teams


Cudizonedefense

Westbrook has been out of the first round once without KD, right? And that was on the back of harden, right?


Quirky-Sentence-3744

Howā€™d harden do with KD? How many finals has Harden appeared in again? How many 32 pt triple double seasons? And Westbrook thoroughly outplayed Harden in 2017, it just wasnā€™t enough


Cudizonedefense

Harden has won a ton of playoff series? Heā€™s been to multiple WCF without KD. Russ canā€™t even win a single playoff series without KD. Russ didnā€™t outplay harden. He kept chucking. 38% FG is horrendous. You were like 10 when the series happened, you definitely donā€™t remember it well


Quirky-Sentence-3744

I was prolly younger lol Iā€™ve watched all 5 games tho. russ was doing everything and the team fell apart when he sat. He put up video game numbers and was actually a + in his minutes, the team was like -50 across the minutes he sat


Cudizonedefense

That would be true for basically every superstar outside of Tatum


TeTrodoToxin4

When he got injured in 2020 it was all down hill. His defensive effort improved quite since then, but he doesn't have the burst of speed he used to have anymore and it looks like the hand injuries have made him have the touch of playing with oven mitts. Dude probably needs to do nerve therapy on his wrists to get feeling back, not even just for playing basketball, just for life. Also I find it infuriating that he becomes inactive when he doesn't have the ball. He doesn't move much, doesn't set screens and repeatedly parked himself in the corner (which limits his potential to drive to the basket, kick it to someone else and he should not be taking threes). Dude is still plenty fast and has the endurance to do that sort of work off the ball and he would add value just by doing that.


Downtown_Soft_202

Every time Russ touched the ball I wanted him to shoot, that pull up bank shot on the elbow is money in the bank


Dota2008

Got to respect the guy who built the bank too. One brick at a time. Actually he really could capitalize on this as an opportunity to corner the market and start a company named West Brick. Known for reliability! Id invest.


LHamiltonPP

It's very easy to fathom if you've watched him play at any point in the last 3 years


TuqiDuque12

Cool will you to a post about how you can't win with Royce O'Neale, Jose Alvarado or Dante Exum next ?


ChiRaider

I think the point of this post is to show how far Russ has fallen to be compared with those names. Itā€™s probably time to consider retiring And I would comfortably rather have the 3 you just listed


TuqiDuque12

He's a back up guard on the minimum, if he was any better he wouldn't be that. And honestly I'm not sure there's a point in discussing who is the 197th or 201st best player in the league


silkkthechakakhan

Fwiw heā€™s not on the minimum, I think heā€™s on like 6m annually. Not that itā€™s a dramatic difference, just pointing it out.


DotDotBoy

he's on 4m


CP3sHamstring

it doesn't matter if he's on a cheap contract if he comes into the game, gets completely ignored on defense, and refuses to make a play for someone else bricking shot after shot for himself while the other stars on the court are getting doubled 4m players aren't typically black holes the way russ is.


DotDotBoy

Alvarado has a worst ts than Westbrook in the playoffs


LHamiltonPP

The difference is that none of those bench guys would ever be putting up a shot every 2 minutes like Russ. Every team has backups that opponents will ignore in the playoffs but they're all low usage guys. Only Russ tries to play like he's still an MVP.


Insufferable-Asshat

All them guys are better than russ


cookedbutok

The ā€œApril 32ndā€ line


Steelers7589

Russ has won 1 playoff series since Durant left OKC in the summer of 2016.


knicksdeadman

What was Tobias Haris lol


Party-Benefit-3995

Had enough bricks to build a mansion in cancun.


No_Roof_1910

He's just earning his moniker of "Westbrick", one brick at a time.


MiamiPower

Russ has been trash šŸ—‘ for a while.


Smekledorf1996

OP is just karma farming/trolling at this point Who tf is thinking about Westbrook at this point? Especially when heā€™s a bench player?


domingodlf

I can't fathom how anyone still believes he's a positive NBA player. He hasn't been for a while now, since his Lakers stint. All the clowning Lakers fans got after he went to the Clippers and had like 1 good game was truly pathetic.


HaramHas

Some mfers really tried to act like the Lakers were why Westbrook looked so bad on their team just because he had a few good games with the Clippers.


BruceBrownMVP

He tries really really hard though that's gotta count for something šŸ„ŗ


domingodlf

That's literally the entire argument around him lmao it's crazy. You don't see that for anyone else.


syllabic

thanasas tries hard too


Dingusmelon

Except he doesn't try at things that could help win games


veerkanch489

he has that mamba mentality


PointBlankCoffee

Hasn't been positive since he left OKC tbh. He had stats in Houston, but the team was worse with him on the floor


sickfalco

Even during OKC era he was hurting KDs effectiveness. He just ballhogged during his triple double era as well. Dude is a negative.


socialistbcrumb

You *can* hate on him despite the minimum contract but ignoring his stature due to his prime, this would be like hypothetically getting mad at Sam Hauser or Payton Pritchard for being ass after a Tatum injury. Like, sure they could have been better, but maybe focus on the guy making the big bucks who was unavailable, or the performances of the stars who were on the floor. That said he was awful.


CP3sHamstring

Russ plays a significantly more ball dominant style than Hauser or Pritchard though. When Russ checks in, he gets pretty tunnel visioned on trying to finish over everyone and rarely converts. The defense also always changes how they're defending to ignore Russ; they definitely aint leaving Pritchard or Hauser open like that lol


socialistbcrumb

Iā€™m not saying he plays as well as they *usually* do, just that weā€™re talking about small $ value bench guys who are capable of underperforming. If his name wasnā€™t Russell Westbrook, we wouldnā€™t be getting posts long after the Clippers were eliminated blaming a bench player for their loss lol.


Propelerate

I fucking despise this goddamn team


GuestBadge

He averageed 1 made FG per game in those games. Wow.


luka4damp

they call him westbrick for a reason


skrulewi

I can


PaperMoon-

It's hard to defend this mf. And I don't mean in game.


jarred_98

Isnā€™t it like 6-35?


UnbracedConsecration

Heā€™s way worse than pj tucker


Russ_Culture

game 5: Harden: 7/4/7 on 16.7/14.3/100 splits PG: 15/11/4 on 30.7/33.3/83.3 splits game 6: Harden: 16/7/13 on 31.25/0/62.5 splits PG: 18/11/5 on 33.33/20/100 splits And you're out here blaming the back up pg lol


Vicentesteb

Btw so you know 31% and 33% are almost 3 times more than 12.5% which is 4/32.


floridabeach9

4-32 is 12.5%


boozinf

check out the big brain on Brad! ;P


Insufferable-Asshat

Harden and pgs terrible game 5 was literally still better than Russ all series


Russ_Culture

They should be better since Russ is a bench player. Come on man


Insufferable-Asshat

Russ had a higher usage rate than harden in the playoffs btw.


Russ_Culture

That's on Harden for being passive when he's not getting foul calls


Insufferable-Asshat

Sure harden could have played better but not sure why youā€™re trying to move the conversation to hardens terrible play in elimination games (which is definitely a huge problem dating back to his prime) We talking about Russ going 4-32 from games 2-5


Russ_Culture

because blaming the loss on a bench player instead of the stars is weak


Insufferable-Asshat

YOU SAID RUSS SHOULD START ALL YEARšŸ¤£


Russ_Culture

Russ should start if he's allowed to play his natural position, pg. Ty Lue had Russ being a spot up shooter literally standing still while Harden ran the offense. This would be like asking Zubac to play point guard or brittle Kawhi to actually play games


Insufferable-Asshat

Russ with the ball makes better decisions than harden in your opinion? Like you rather trust Russ with the ball? In 2024


DotDotBoy

You're 2 Max players shot better(6/25 combined in G5) than a man on a minimum who shot 9/40 whole series WOW, you should definitely max them again.


FuckingColdInCanada

PJ Tucker plays defense. I would take Tucker over Westbrick in a NY minute


maybeacademicweapon

100% at least Bones is entertaining sometimes, Westbrook is just excruciating to watch. Everytime he took a shot I knew that thing was hitting the side of the backboard


Insufferable-Asshat

Yā€™all had to have been on cloud 9 whenever Russ checked in


sickfalco

I wanted nothing but Russ minutes as a Mavs fan. Hoping they give Giddey another chance tomorrow too.


DubsFanAccount

Traumatic flashbacks of Harrison Barnes in G5-7 of 2016.


Think-Grapefruit1508

See "Wagner, Franz"


Call555JackChop

Age comes for us all at some point


POV420

Why is this a shocker? OKC Russ was when he dominated playoff games.


runaway86s

looks very bad until u rewatch the games and see why that was. he was out there playing very tough defense in spurts and had a short leash. he doesn't really even try to score unless it's in transition. the only shots he took were when the play blew up, or where the mavs damn near *left the entire arena* when they saw him at the 3. he tries to not fuck up the flow by making them respect the 3 but it just sucks.


livefreeordont

He should not be allowed to shoot 3s period. Itā€™s a win for the defense


runaway86s

yea that's the issue though. the play/offense can't progress since he's the weakest link. harden or pg burning seconds off the clock for russ' man to double them or zubac leading to an open russ with 6 seconds left. there's only so many plays to be made from russ in that position


Swoosh_rotaerc

Wrap your head around this, since the 3:20 min mark of the first quater, game 3 between the Clippers and Mavs, when Luka re-injured his knee in a collision with Westbrook (more Westbrook pushing him over); Luka Doncic shot 7/39 from three for the rest of the series. That's 17.9%!!! It was only somewhat better than Westbrooks 12.5% from games 2 onwards. So as much as you may think if another player like Bones, was in and shot better, the Clippers might have won the series, you could also say, if Luka shot league average from 3, it probably doesn't get to a game 6. The clippers losing wasn't only down to Westbrook's shooting, but it was a contributing factor.


Guppster64

If my grandmother had wheels sheā€™d be a bicycle


yoppee

Yes and Tyrone Lue is getting an extension


Propelerate

Not Tyā€™s fault his best player is hurt every fucking year. Itā€™s hard to do a good job when ur team is kneecapped every yr


syllabic

its not his fault he had to play russ to keep his dumbass stars happy


yoppee

Heā€™s playing a player that sucks whoā€™s fault is that?


jaysonman1

Literally canā€™t even make layups lol


UrGirlThroatGame

the funny part is that his FG% at the rim this postseason was better than 5 of the 9 postseasons he had in OKC, including his MVP year lol this is who Westbrick always been


Bombshock2

Mate he was put out on the corner without the ball. He played like shit to end the series, but he wasn't put in a position to succeed. He was taking a lot of bail out shots at the end of the shot clock.Ā  If you have Russ you need to have him on ball. He provides nothing off ball at this stage of his career. Taking the ball out of his hands and sticking him in the corner is not only bad for Russ, but bad for his teammates too.Ā  Ā  At least have him set screens or something. But no. Ty and Harden had him sitting in the corner all series, meanwhile Amir Coffey was bringing the ball up on some possessions. I just don't understand it man.Ā  He will never be a spot up shooter. He will never provide spacing, but he can still move the damn ball. I know a full season happened in between, but he was fantastic last year with the clippers. I don't think he lost all of that. Harden just displaced him and the role he had on the clips turned into basically exactly the role he had on the Lakers. It's dumb basketball.Ā  Please Russ, find a team that will let you play point guard or just retire. No sense destroying your body more just to play a role you don't fit for teams that don't trust you.Ā 


msf97

Heā€™s never been a top 5 player. The fact he got an MVP still remains bizarre, and shows just how much of a villain KD was.


BruceBrownMVP

Harden robbed


Delusional_Lynchpin-

The OG pity MVP


Insufferable-Asshat

I donā€™t believe Russ would be the best player in the G League right now


syllabic

obviously not


Efficient-Split527

Cmon man as bad as Russ is he would still drop 30 12 12 in the G


SigmaColts

Rocket flair Makes sense