NBA fans love to romanticise the DLo/LeVert/Allen team, but it was going to have the exact same faith as the Siakam/OG/Van Vleet team.
When you have the opportunity to sign Kyrie/KD/Harden, you should take the chance.
Unfortunately for the Nets, Kyrie was having an episode in Brooklyn. Also, in hindsight, Brooklyn should have just let Kyrie play away games and make sure Kyrie/Harden aren’t alienated.
I liked that team but I feel like it was understood they weren’t going to be a contender anytime soon without adding something. The problem was they undervalued how well the team fit together and Jarrett Allen.
Add top talent to that team while keeping at least some of the bones would have been less memeable. Your parallel is great- Kawhi on the raptors won a chip. Can’t help but be curious how good the nets could have been adding just one or even two stars and having them more supported by the surrounding cast.
Right bro just refused to get vaccinated (problematic for other reasons ) and missed a bunch of games because of it. Besides from that he got hurt in the playoffs and missed a game to party (on his Rodman shit)
It is mostly used for manic or depressive episodes, but It is actually used for short "bursts" of mental illnesses in general and was even an euphemism for mental illness in the past.
LeVert did drop a [50-piece at TD Garden](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T9DoaYWF8Q), which is probably when that hype started, but yeah, obviously didn't pan out.
>NBA fans love to romanticise the DLo/LeVert/Allen team, but it was going to have the exact same faith as the Siakam/OG/Van Vleet team.
No it wasn't, that Raptors core was a lot better.
I wanted to say the Raptors core was better too but didn’t want to come off as a homer.
Also, Raptors had/have Scottie Barnes. And they still had to break that team off because it was not good enough to justify the investment.
Imagine if they never traded and gave up anything for Harden. They’d have everything they currently have now and then some while getting a few contention seasons of fun in between the two timelines.
huh? that's like... not true at all, really..
the Bulls have made the playoffs 12 times since 2000s (literally half the time), including a stretch from 2005-2017 where they made the playoffs 11 out of 13 seasons, finished with the best record in the league mutilple times, won 5 playoff series, had their star players win MVP and DPOY in different years, coach won COTY.... they averaged 47 wins per season for over a decade straight.....
I'm not saying they ever set the league on fire or anything and were some memorable dynasty, but still.... probably like 40-50% of the teams in the league havent come close to that amount of success in the sime time frame
CHA (Bobcats/Hornets), Pistons, Wizards, Knicks, Magic, Kings, Wolves, and NO (Hornets/Pelicans) have all been MUCH worse than the bulls in the 21st century. and the Nets, Blazers, Hawks, Suns, Pacers and Jazz have been close to or arguably worse than them as well.
That's 14 teams right there that have arguably had a more bleak 21st century
The Rockets, Grizzlies, Clippers, Thunder and Sixers are basically the only non-championship teams that have had a better 21st century run than the Bulls.
You could even argue they've had a better century overall than the Raptors outside of 2019, obviously
I guess Im just saying there are many worse teams to root for lol. Since 2004, the Bulls have only won fewer than 40 games 6 times, including last year when they won 39 games.
All true but if you factor in the Rose injuries that makes all the success sting that much more. Still agree though that there have been worse teams to cheer for. Not the Raptors though, from 2014 to 2022 it was an awesome ride (aside from the Tampa tank year)
It sucks too cause Chicago is such a great city and the Bulls are such a historic franchise, so there are probably tons and tons of fans just waiting for the bulls to be good again so they can turn up. But they just cannot escape the treadmill of mediocrity recently :/
The fans show up to the bulls games, regardless. They’ve got great attendance figures, and since Chicago is such a transplant city, away fans show up in droves too.
Yeah that’s the main issue honestly. Our owner, Reinsdorf, is a cheap fuck and only cares about money. Chicago Bulls have had one of the best attendance figures in the past 25 years. So Reinsdorf just doesn’t care since his team is pumping out money.
He even said trade Bulls trophy for a White Sox championship, which is another teams he’s also cheap as fuck with.
They don’t want to get off the train of mediocrity. That costs money. And the history keeps fans coming no matter what so there’s little incentive to compete.
In all honesty I feel like they should be open to offers on anyone, they really need to follow the path of the one and only ash ketchum, and collect all them picks
Cam might be difficult to get much value back on. Makes a lot of money for being a good shooter and not much else. Dumping him wouldn't be the worst option just to tank as hard as possible next season.
Yeah but if you are a Nets fan do you assume all those picks will help build a legit contender or be wasted in spectacular fashion? The PTSD of this fan base has to be pretty high.
To be fair, and this is ancient history, Gerald Wallace was pretty good as like a slasher, playmaker, and defender. Now by 2011 you could maybe have seen that his game was highly reliant on athleticism and wouldn’t age well.
You cut the last part of that passage:
> They even killed their own mascot -- Brooklyn Knight. My god. It's no wonder whatever Brooklyn fans actually exist just walk around in a constant state of confusion.
[Never forget](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTxyB0J0SvSb8uDrS8q_yv69vav31VGi5rqzJhLuGLGJVRR_EuEJ9u3n5Y&s=10)
I mean, the reason why is because [the mascot shared its name with a porn star](https://deadspin.com/the-brooklyn-nets-new-mascot-basically-has-the-same-nam-5956493/), so it's understandable, I guess.
You really have to wonder what the league currently looks like if Harden's hammy doesn't turn into string cheese in the first game on the first play of the second round or if KD's foot is behind the line when he makes that shot at the end of Game 7.
Going back even further just thinking about if Fultz has actually panned out, so many things change. The 76ers really are a huge part of so much NBA craziness, they need a 30 for 30.
If that Kawhi shot misses, raptors still win OT. They had great momentum and suffocated the 6ers in the fourth. The only reason the game was tied was because of a missed free throw that bounced all the way to the 3 point line allowing for a transition and+1.
Being a Nets fan is a uniquely tortured existence. It’s different than teams who have just been bad for a long time. There’s been genuine glimmers of hope culminating in nothing which is worse than infinite bleakness. And it’s been mostly bleak since the back-to-back finals losses.
I still think about Giannis undercutting Kyrie, Harden being fat, and KDs shoe size on a weekly basis.
I’m glad we have a direction now, but watching a tanking basketball team isn’t fun. Probably gonna mentally check out for the next 2 years and try to be a hockey fan again.
> I’m glad we have a direction now, but watching a tanking basketball team isn’t fun
Idk how to break this to you but we started tanking the moment KD and Kyrie left BK. The only difference now is our front office finally woke up and accepted it
Hey, we'll always have the 2002 Finals which was the last NBC Sports production!
Yeah a gentleman sweep would have been better than getting swept but we haven't had anything else this century.
Ok, I guess it's back to irrelevance. Carry on without us, as always.
I genuinely will probably watch Knicks games just because I like Bridges so much. I'm not ever gonna call myself a Knicks fan but I could be a Nova Knicks fan.
Yeah I don't know why people are clowning on us for this. At least we try to make moves instead of just being satisfied with mediocrity like the Bulls and (until just last year) the Wizards.
Can confirm, would much rather have gone this route many times in our history. I think this is a great move, no idea why anyone would hate on this approach.
The song everything to get Garnet and Pierce was kinda crazy, but the way Durant and Kyrie were handled made perfect sense to me.
Good or bad, its been a wild ride to witness from afar. They made out like bandits but it doesn't really feel like the lucked into another team's blunder - the Knicks are taking a (large) calculated risk, but they are pushing their chips to the middle of the table and going all in and I respect that.
Yes, The Trade (Pierce/KG for all the picks) was a colossal fuck up because while they were a factor, for a few seasons, that move clearly had limited shelf life.
Since then, they have been dealt some shit cards. If a player of KD's caliber shows up and wants to sign, you do it. If he says he wants his buddy Kyrie, you sign him. They don't know Kyrie is going bad to worse in terms of being a cancer. You have a chance to bring in Harden, what can go wrong? He player with KD in OKC...yeah...You swap contracts and pull back some picks while taking on Simmons, get a haul from PHX and parlay Bridges into another massive haul...
Hat tip to the Nets. They still owe picks and still have some difficulties to navigate, but they have turned a dumpster fire into a pretty decent outlook going forward.
Tilman can't be left out.
He took over a team that 120 games in the two seasons before he bought/started getting involved,.
In the next 6 seasons, we won 197 games.
We've had 7 sub 30 win seasons since the Rockets moved to Houston, 3 under Tilman.
Our core might be good, but until further notice, we are a poverty franchise with one of the worst owners in basketball.
Unless the Suns trade Durant soon, they're going to lose the game of musical chairs. They're not a contender, Beal's contract is awful, and Durant will lose a ton of his value over the next two years (and his contract is up after 2025-26). And if Booker sees the writing on the wall, he'll demand out too rather than being the only talented player on a team without any other assets.
I mean despite all this we’ve made the playoffs and have more playoff wins than a lot of other franchises in that timespan.
Doesn’t take away the pure batshit insanity that is being a modern nets fan but it does mean the ride has had some decent highs
For sure, get to see what Cam T really is a #1 option.
See if Clowneys 5 games at the end were legit. Hopefully get Claxton back or sign and trade him. Have to imagine one of Cam J or DFS is gone by tonight or tomorrow.
Can not WAIT for the Nets o/u wins for next season. No way they touch 30 wins now right?
He has proven that he can't maintain a team with superstars and get all the egos managed. But he has also proven that he can build the shit out of a bunch of picks. For the 2-3 years coming up, I am very comfortable having him at the wheel.
Some stars are easier to manage than others. Harden and Kyrie are magnets for drama and that’s been the case on teams before the Nets. Maybe they’ve mellowed with age or the drama explosions are still impending.
B+ id say, cant be an A without an elite young talent but we have a great market, cap sheet, and draft capital for the future with a GM thats had a knack for finding talent in the later draft
Iso joe was our best player during those early brooklyn years. I thought it was a bad trade at the time, but he lived up to that contract for the nets.
Yea so. Shit happens. Better than being in no mans land which is where we would be had we not gone full rebuild. I feel way better about this team as of this morning than i did 2 days ago
I’ve enjoyed being a Nets fan thus far.
I trust the FO for the most part and they’ve done a good job on most decisions.
The KD/Kyrie era just poisoned things a little bit. We had a really good vibe in the prior team and it’s a slow process of getting that back.
But, I think Marks and co are the perfect team to have when you’re trying to rebuild, so we’ll see what they can do.
All right, finally some long overdue recognition and sincere respect!
BTW, how do I add Long Island Nets and Dr J to my profile? Or even Piscataway Nets which the first NBA game I ever saw!!?
Yeah, I'm old 😛
The Nets gear is very generic looking. Black and Silver with a giant B.
A lot of people wear it but I’d be surprised if more than 1 in 4 have ever watched a full game.
I became a fan when they moved to Brooklyn. I’m from LI and was becoming a fan of the league around that time. I liked that they used to play on the island back in the day, and could never imagine myself rooting for a Knicks team that a) was owned by James Dolan, b) had been mismanaged my entire conscious existence, and c) whose best player was Carmelo Anthony. So yeah, us Nets fans in NY do exist! It’s been a journey for sure.
I grew up a Nets fan and still am. Lived through whoop-de-damn-doo, 'Trade Me', Drazen, Shaq breaking the stanchion, having the #1 overall pick in the worst draft ever. Back-to-back conference finals where they had no chance. I don't blame them for moving to Brooklyn. Then this spectacular flameout. I don't live in Jersey any more.
They don't have many fans in Brooklyn. I go to Nets games often because they're affordable and I like basketball. Most fans there are either fans of another team or casual/new.
Most Nets fans I know have been fans of NJ. Since moving to Brooklyn some of them still are fans but many have lost some interest
The fanbase is a work in progress.
The NJ fans are basically gone. The “fans” at games either root for someone else or came because they wanted to see an NBA game but don’t want to pay Knicks ticket prices.
However, there is a small contingent of Brooklyners who are genuine fans (mostly from the less “fashionable” parts of Brooklyn, east and south of prospect park).
Also, the team has growth potential. The franchise has done well at branding itself as a “new school” alternative to the Knicks (who give off an “old school” vibe). Tons of people wear the gear. It’s not a Clippers situation, whose identity is basically “that other LA team that isn’t the Lakers.” They just need a winning team to make those bandwagoners real fans.
**TL;dr is that the fanbase is mostly randos, but they have growth potential. They’re not doomed to be the Knicks’ little brother forever.**
To add on to this, Brooklyn has a steady pipeline of transplants that have no prior ties to the NY/NJ/CT tri-state. In theory with enough time they'll have an organically grown fanbase.
Also the Liberty play at Barclays which anecdotally has worked in their favor. I have 4 friends who are splitting season tickets for the Libs and they have def gone to more Nets games because of it because Barclays is a cool stadium so why not.
All that said, similar to the 1st round this year, it will always be a sea of orange and blue when the Knicks are playing there because it's a cheaper way to see the good guys play and its always cool to take over another stadium.
I'm a Nets fan from the Midwest who started watching NBA games during the D'Lo/LeVert/Allen/Dinwiddie years and just loved that team. Didn't have a local team to root for and I like black and white as a colour pair so I just went with it.
It's tough being a fan of a lot of teams, even the Knicks. It's been LoLKnicks and ridiculous Knicks for clicks articles/stories forever. At least with other teams like Bulls, Wizards, Clippers (pre lob city) and etc. aren't universally shitted on even if they are bad or going through some dysfunction.
Not sure if this is a hot take or not, but this is how at least a quarter of the franchises should be run. Sure being in Brooklyn/New York is much more attractive than being in a most other cities, but I think teams like the Rockets, Hawks, or Bulls are capable of attracting free agents and should try taking these big swings. I get trying to build longevity but look at how far those franchises have gotten (from a team building sense).
Look - every experiment the Nets have tried has failed. And failed horribly. But god damn at least they tried. That’s what I hang my hat on as a nets fans
Look, even if that trade never happened and the Nets had the picks, they would have picked Kris Dunn at #3 and Markelle Fultz at #1, both consensus picks at the time.
injury luck has really fucked us the last 4-5 years. can't say we haven't been a very active team though, not settling for mediocrity like certain other teams out there.
I guess the good thing about getting all those stars is they were able to sell them off and get a ton of picks. Time to shed some of those vets and go full tank.
Honestly, I'd prefer this over the perpetual mediocrity that is the Chicago Bulls, Atlanta Hawks, Washington Wizards, and other large market teams that are fine with just making the 1st round for extra money.
And why wouldn't he be? He pulled us out of two collosal nets fuckups. Granted the 2nd one was partially his fault but he managed to turn KD into 9 picks + more depending on how much he can get out of Cam Johnson. If that isn't good GM work then idk what is
They got like 10 first rounders for KD, could be worse
Kyrie unironically save them from purgatory of being a play in team paying DLo 50 mil a year
NBA fans love to romanticise the DLo/LeVert/Allen team, but it was going to have the exact same faith as the Siakam/OG/Van Vleet team. When you have the opportunity to sign Kyrie/KD/Harden, you should take the chance. Unfortunately for the Nets, Kyrie was having an episode in Brooklyn. Also, in hindsight, Brooklyn should have just let Kyrie play away games and make sure Kyrie/Harden aren’t alienated.
I liked that team but I feel like it was understood they weren’t going to be a contender anytime soon without adding something. The problem was they undervalued how well the team fit together and Jarrett Allen. Add top talent to that team while keeping at least some of the bones would have been less memeable. Your parallel is great- Kawhi on the raptors won a chip. Can’t help but be curious how good the nets could have been adding just one or even two stars and having them more supported by the surrounding cast.
"having an episode" makes it sound like he's manic or something lmao
Right bro just refused to get vaccinated (problematic for other reasons ) and missed a bunch of games because of it. Besides from that he got hurt in the playoffs and missed a game to party (on his Rodman shit)
The antisemitism didn’t help things much either
Sounds like an “episode” to me.
Definitely an episode for him no doubt
It is mostly used for manic or depressive episodes, but It is actually used for short "bursts" of mental illnesses in general and was even an euphemism for mental illness in the past.
I remember when Nets fans were trying to convince themselves that Caris Levert was better than Jaylen Brown - that take aged like year old goats milk
LeVert did drop a [50-piece at TD Garden](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T9DoaYWF8Q), which is probably when that hype started, but yeah, obviously didn't pan out.
Levert is firmly on the list of “players that become HOFers for no reason whenever they play the Celtics”
Shoutout Middleton
Le chevrot is really good though
>NBA fans love to romanticise the DLo/LeVert/Allen team, but it was going to have the exact same faith as the Siakam/OG/Van Vleet team. No it wasn't, that Raptors core was a lot better.
I wanted to say the Raptors core was better too but didn’t want to come off as a homer. Also, Raptors had/have Scottie Barnes. And they still had to break that team off because it was not good enough to justify the investment.
Imagine if they never traded and gave up anything for Harden. They’d have everything they currently have now and then some while getting a few contention seasons of fun in between the two timelines.
That's why I was always confused about Nets fans hating Kyrie. He definitely left them better than he found them
I'll take their situation over ours.
I feel for you man. the state of the Chicago Bulls in the 21st century is as bleak as it gets.
huh? that's like... not true at all, really.. the Bulls have made the playoffs 12 times since 2000s (literally half the time), including a stretch from 2005-2017 where they made the playoffs 11 out of 13 seasons, finished with the best record in the league mutilple times, won 5 playoff series, had their star players win MVP and DPOY in different years, coach won COTY.... they averaged 47 wins per season for over a decade straight..... I'm not saying they ever set the league on fire or anything and were some memorable dynasty, but still.... probably like 40-50% of the teams in the league havent come close to that amount of success in the sime time frame CHA (Bobcats/Hornets), Pistons, Wizards, Knicks, Magic, Kings, Wolves, and NO (Hornets/Pelicans) have all been MUCH worse than the bulls in the 21st century. and the Nets, Blazers, Hawks, Suns, Pacers and Jazz have been close to or arguably worse than them as well. That's 14 teams right there that have arguably had a more bleak 21st century The Rockets, Grizzlies, Clippers, Thunder and Sixers are basically the only non-championship teams that have had a better 21st century run than the Bulls. You could even argue they've had a better century overall than the Raptors outside of 2019, obviously I guess Im just saying there are many worse teams to root for lol. Since 2004, the Bulls have only won fewer than 40 games 6 times, including last year when they won 39 games.
All true but if you factor in the Rose injuries that makes all the success sting that much more. Still agree though that there have been worse teams to cheer for. Not the Raptors though, from 2014 to 2022 it was an awesome ride (aside from the Tampa tank year)
It sucks too cause Chicago is such a great city and the Bulls are such a historic franchise, so there are probably tons and tons of fans just waiting for the bulls to be good again so they can turn up. But they just cannot escape the treadmill of mediocrity recently :/
The fans show up to the bulls games, regardless. They’ve got great attendance figures, and since Chicago is such a transplant city, away fans show up in droves too.
Yeah that’s the main issue honestly. Our owner, Reinsdorf, is a cheap fuck and only cares about money. Chicago Bulls have had one of the best attendance figures in the past 25 years. So Reinsdorf just doesn’t care since his team is pumping out money. He even said trade Bulls trophy for a White Sox championship, which is another teams he’s also cheap as fuck with.
They don’t want to get off the train of mediocrity. That costs money. And the history keeps fans coming no matter what so there’s little incentive to compete.
It's okay you guys got..*checks note* Giddey for Caruso...
*laughs in pistons blue*
I don't think that quite makes up for the past 11 years, but it's a start.
Plenty of franchises have less exciting spans of 10-20 years with currently poorer outlooks on the future
See Charlotte hornets
Brandon Miller is worth much more than any of those picks likely. Future great
We still have Cam Johnson, too. Could probably unload him by tonight if we needed to.
Cam, DFS, Clax, Dennis - make everyone available. Also Ben if we can get any value out of his expiring.
I’d like 1 cam Johnson please :)
In all honesty I feel like they should be open to offers on anyone, they really need to follow the path of the one and only ash ketchum, and collect all them picks
Sam Presti is Ash Ketchum?
lets be real he couldnt beat whitney’s miltank
Cam might be difficult to get much value back on. Makes a lot of money for being a good shooter and not much else. Dumping him wouldn't be the worst option just to tank as hard as possible next season.
He makes 4 million less in 2025-26 then he did in 2023-24, that’s something
That's actually probably huge. To a team deep in the tax, that'll work out to something like $12M in savings
They made another trade last night removing one of the protections from the harden trade for some of those KD picks, it's hard to keep track!
Sean Marks is a criminally underrated GM
Yea with how bad he is
Y do u think he’s bad
Yeah but if you are a Nets fan do you assume all those picks will help build a legit contender or be wasted in spectacular fashion? The PTSD of this fan base has to be pretty high.
Don't forget they also traded the pick that became Damian Lillard for Gerald Wallace
Don’t remind me lol
To be fair, and this is ancient history, Gerald Wallace was pretty good as like a slasher, playmaker, and defender. Now by 2011 you could maybe have seen that his game was highly reliant on athleticism and wouldn’t age well.
Yeah, don't get me wrong, I loved Crash Wallace when he was a Blazer, but you could tell the way he played was taking a toll on him before that trade.
Arguably even more indefensible than the KG PP trade, they _traded a lotto pick_ for an incoming free agent!! They could've just signed him!
Only 5 players worth taking in the draft, lol
You cut the last part of that passage: > They even killed their own mascot -- Brooklyn Knight. My god. It's no wonder whatever Brooklyn fans actually exist just walk around in a constant state of confusion. [Never forget](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTxyB0J0SvSb8uDrS8q_yv69vav31VGi5rqzJhLuGLGJVRR_EuEJ9u3n5Y&s=10)
That's a power rangers villain.
Oh, they were just making room for [their future mascot](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAx5bcLGcOY) after they trade venues with the Clippers.
I mean, the reason why is because [the mascot shared its name with a porn star](https://deadspin.com/the-brooklyn-nets-new-mascot-basically-has-the-same-nam-5956493/), so it's understandable, I guess.
You really have to wonder what the league currently looks like if Harden's hammy doesn't turn into string cheese in the first game on the first play of the second round or if KD's foot is behind the line when he makes that shot at the end of Game 7.
KDs foot being on the line, and Kawhi's shot bouncing around and falling in at the buzzer reshuffled a lot of the last 5 years.
Going back even further just thinking about if Fultz has actually panned out, so many things change. The 76ers really are a huge part of so much NBA craziness, they need a 30 for 30.
They've had a major plotline in the soap opera for the past few seasons.
I hope the writers don't get a boner from the lakers celtics most championships race now that the tie is broken
The Process is surely a lock for a 30 for 30
30 bums under 30
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There’s a very good chance they lost to the Bucks in the next round or the Warriors in the finals.
Also they still had OT even if the shot missed. That team was great, but the romanticizing of them is out of control.
Only true contender since 2001. And the team decided, "nah, we'll be better without Jimmy!"
Even worse. They chose Tobias over him.
If that Kawhi shot misses, raptors still win OT. They had great momentum and suffocated the 6ers in the fourth. The only reason the game was tied was because of a missed free throw that bounced all the way to the 3 point line allowing for a transition and+1.
Tobi and Ben also had 5 fouls :).
Quite the opposite I think. We were up, and the sixers had stormed back. They had the mo
I still maintain that KD is one Joe Harris made 3 away from never having to deal with slander about his legacy.
I mean, creating a super team in BKN isn’t exactly legacy defining. Def would have added to it outside of GSW
Or if Kyrie stayed off the internet
Or if COVID never happened, or even if NYC was never one of the global epicenters during the pandemic
I mean we all had to deal with covid . Kyrie invented his own stupid bullshit over and over.
Or if Kyrie didn’t land on someone’s foot
Nets are the ultimate What If? franchise
Being a Nets fan is a uniquely tortured existence. It’s different than teams who have just been bad for a long time. There’s been genuine glimmers of hope culminating in nothing which is worse than infinite bleakness. And it’s been mostly bleak since the back-to-back finals losses. I still think about Giannis undercutting Kyrie, Harden being fat, and KDs shoe size on a weekly basis. I’m glad we have a direction now, but watching a tanking basketball team isn’t fun. Probably gonna mentally check out for the next 2 years and try to be a hockey fan again.
> I’m glad we have a direction now, but watching a tanking basketball team isn’t fun Idk how to break this to you but we started tanking the moment KD and Kyrie left BK. The only difference now is our front office finally woke up and accepted it
Hey, we'll always have the 2002 Finals which was the last NBC Sports production! Yeah a gentleman sweep would have been better than getting swept but we haven't had anything else this century. Ok, I guess it's back to irrelevance. Carry on without us, as always.
Hey, it could be worse. The Nets have been significantly better this century than the Knicks have.
Oh so it's like being a Vikings fan.
Just become a Knicks fan. No one will ever know.
I genuinely will probably watch Knicks games just because I like Bridges so much. I'm not ever gonna call myself a Knicks fan but I could be a Nova Knicks fan.
It does show the Nets are constantly trying to move the needle. They go big or retool quick. The injury gods just hate them.
Yeah I don't know why people are clowning on us for this. At least we try to make moves instead of just being satisfied with mediocrity like the Bulls and (until just last year) the Wizards.
Can confirm, would much rather have gone this route many times in our history. I think this is a great move, no idea why anyone would hate on this approach. The song everything to get Garnet and Pierce was kinda crazy, but the way Durant and Kyrie were handled made perfect sense to me.
Good or bad, its been a wild ride to witness from afar. They made out like bandits but it doesn't really feel like the lucked into another team's blunder - the Knicks are taking a (large) calculated risk, but they are pushing their chips to the middle of the table and going all in and I respect that. Yes, The Trade (Pierce/KG for all the picks) was a colossal fuck up because while they were a factor, for a few seasons, that move clearly had limited shelf life. Since then, they have been dealt some shit cards. If a player of KD's caliber shows up and wants to sign, you do it. If he says he wants his buddy Kyrie, you sign him. They don't know Kyrie is going bad to worse in terms of being a cancer. You have a chance to bring in Harden, what can go wrong? He player with KD in OKC...yeah...You swap contracts and pull back some picks while taking on Simmons, get a haul from PHX and parlay Bridges into another massive haul... Hat tip to the Nets. They still owe picks and still have some difficulties to navigate, but they have turned a dumpster fire into a pretty decent outlook going forward.
Ishbia says “oh you think you know how to implode? Just watch “
At least we get to watch the implosion on local tv for free 😎
Yes please, the quicker the better
I really don't appreciate the Rockets and Spurs having such high value picks.
Yay. We need even more stacked western conference
Tilman can't be left out. He took over a team that 120 games in the two seasons before he bought/started getting involved,. In the next 6 seasons, we won 197 games. We've had 7 sub 30 win seasons since the Rockets moved to Houston, 3 under Tilman. Our core might be good, but until further notice, we are a poverty franchise with one of the worst owners in basketball.
Unless the Suns trade Durant soon, they're going to lose the game of musical chairs. They're not a contender, Beal's contract is awful, and Durant will lose a ton of his value over the next two years (and his contract is up after 2025-26). And if Booker sees the writing on the wall, he'll demand out too rather than being the only talented player on a team without any other assets.
The Process has been way more embarrassing and this is coming as a Sixers fan.
Yes but the Nets are infinitely less relevant than the Sixers
Same shit different toliet
Y'all would probably have embiid maxey and Tatum rn cause the nets probably would've not traded with you and taken Fultz.
It’s been a lot
I actually prefer to just look at the picks and smile. I've thought enough about how absurd this franchise is lol.
I mean despite all this we’ve made the playoffs and have more playoff wins than a lot of other franchises in that timespan. Doesn’t take away the pure batshit insanity that is being a modern nets fan but it does mean the ride has had some decent highs
Bold to assume that the Nets would’ve drafted Jaylen and Jayson and not Ben Simmons and Markelle Fultz
Simmons went 1, Brown was 3, so they couldn't have done that. Maybe they would have taken Thon Maker or Dragan Bender though.
Nets future went from a D- to a B- in an hour. Sean Marks for life
Even if you guys miss on a lot of picks at least your team has a direction now
For sure, get to see what Cam T really is a #1 option. See if Clowneys 5 games at the end were legit. Hopefully get Claxton back or sign and trade him. Have to imagine one of Cam J or DFS is gone by tonight or tomorrow. Can not WAIT for the Nets o/u wins for next season. No way they touch 30 wins now right?
30? We’d be lucky to get 25
I wouldn’t be surprised if they hit single digit wins
They play in a conference with the Wizards, Pistons, Raptors and Hornets so I would.
I’m gonna be surprised if there’s not a huge shift of star players trying to go to eastern teams for an easier route to the finals
We say this all the time, but the west with some small exceptions has been top to bottom better than the east for like 25 years now.
>Can not WAIT for the Nets o/u wins for next season. No way they touch 30 wins now right? Imagine Detroit but with worse players.
29-game losing streak, here we go
But the Nets coach will have a pulse.
I’m happy if cam pans out to a 2
He has proven that he can't maintain a team with superstars and get all the egos managed. But he has also proven that he can build the shit out of a bunch of picks. For the 2-3 years coming up, I am very comfortable having him at the wheel.
I’m no Nets fan but no one on planet Earth was going to successfully manage those three personalities on one team.
Some stars are easier to manage than others. Harden and Kyrie are magnets for drama and that’s been the case on teams before the Nets. Maybe they’ve mellowed with age or the drama explosions are still impending.
B+ id say, cant be an A without an elite young talent but we have a great market, cap sheet, and draft capital for the future with a GM thats had a knack for finding talent in the later draft
They also bailed the Hawks out of the Joe Johnson contract.
Iso joe was our best player during those early brooklyn years. I thought it was a bad trade at the time, but he lived up to that contract for the nets.
It also allowed us to build the "team basketball Hawks." So, worked out for everyone.
Yeah, Joe Jesus was solid for us. And he was worth it for the game winners alone.
Atleast we're not boring (you know who you are)
Our fans have had the most ups and downs of any team
I mean yea, but they still aren’t the least successful franchise over the same time period…
Everyone clowend on the JB pick so I dont know if the nets would be competent enough to take him
It’s tough being a nets fan 😵💫😵🥴
It's crazy that the KD-Kyrie-Harden Nets were just a blip. I would have bet $$$ on them winning at least 1 championship
I expected to see Nets and Clippers in the Finals at least once during those years
Were they also owned by a Russian gangster / arms dealer, or was that older than 10 years?
Yea so. Shit happens. Better than being in no mans land which is where we would be had we not gone full rebuild. I feel way better about this team as of this morning than i did 2 days ago
I’ve enjoyed being a Nets fan thus far. I trust the FO for the most part and they’ve done a good job on most decisions. The KD/Kyrie era just poisoned things a little bit. We had a really good vibe in the prior team and it’s a slow process of getting that back. But, I think Marks and co are the perfect team to have when you’re trying to rebuild, so we’ll see what they can do.
All right, finally some long overdue recognition and sincere respect! BTW, how do I add Long Island Nets and Dr J to my profile? Or even Piscataway Nets which the first NBA game I ever saw!!? Yeah, I'm old 😛
Genuinely curious what the nets fan base is like. Are there still New Jersey die hards? Who is a nets fan in New York?
Been a die hard fan for 20+ years now and I'm out of Maryland lol. My friend is the only other nets fan I've ever met in the state.
The Nets gear is very generic looking. Black and Silver with a giant B. A lot of people wear it but I’d be surprised if more than 1 in 4 have ever watched a full game.
I became a fan when they moved to Brooklyn. I’m from LI and was becoming a fan of the league around that time. I liked that they used to play on the island back in the day, and could never imagine myself rooting for a Knicks team that a) was owned by James Dolan, b) had been mismanaged my entire conscious existence, and c) whose best player was Carmelo Anthony. So yeah, us Nets fans in NY do exist! It’s been a journey for sure.
I grew up a Nets fan and still am. Lived through whoop-de-damn-doo, 'Trade Me', Drazen, Shaq breaking the stanchion, having the #1 overall pick in the worst draft ever. Back-to-back conference finals where they had no chance. I don't blame them for moving to Brooklyn. Then this spectacular flameout. I don't live in Jersey any more.
They don't have many fans in Brooklyn. I go to Nets games often because they're affordable and I like basketball. Most fans there are either fans of another team or casual/new. Most Nets fans I know have been fans of NJ. Since moving to Brooklyn some of them still are fans but many have lost some interest
The fanbase is a work in progress. The NJ fans are basically gone. The “fans” at games either root for someone else or came because they wanted to see an NBA game but don’t want to pay Knicks ticket prices. However, there is a small contingent of Brooklyners who are genuine fans (mostly from the less “fashionable” parts of Brooklyn, east and south of prospect park). Also, the team has growth potential. The franchise has done well at branding itself as a “new school” alternative to the Knicks (who give off an “old school” vibe). Tons of people wear the gear. It’s not a Clippers situation, whose identity is basically “that other LA team that isn’t the Lakers.” They just need a winning team to make those bandwagoners real fans. **TL;dr is that the fanbase is mostly randos, but they have growth potential. They’re not doomed to be the Knicks’ little brother forever.**
The Brooklyn geography in this is scary accurate
To add on to this, Brooklyn has a steady pipeline of transplants that have no prior ties to the NY/NJ/CT tri-state. In theory with enough time they'll have an organically grown fanbase. Also the Liberty play at Barclays which anecdotally has worked in their favor. I have 4 friends who are splitting season tickets for the Libs and they have def gone to more Nets games because of it because Barclays is a cool stadium so why not. All that said, similar to the 1st round this year, it will always be a sea of orange and blue when the Knicks are playing there because it's a cheaper way to see the good guys play and its always cool to take over another stadium.
I'm a Nets fan from the Midwest who started watching NBA games during the D'Lo/LeVert/Allen/Dinwiddie years and just loved that team. Didn't have a local team to root for and I like black and white as a colour pair so I just went with it.
Yes Nets fans from New Jersey are still kicking around I was a kid during the Kidd era and they’ve been my team since
Being a Nets fan isn't for the weak, that's why there's only dozens of us
It's tough being a fan of a lot of teams, even the Knicks. It's been LoLKnicks and ridiculous Knicks for clicks articles/stories forever. At least with other teams like Bulls, Wizards, Clippers (pre lob city) and etc. aren't universally shitted on even if they are bad or going through some dysfunction.
"Trust the (20 year) process"
I forgot Steve Nash existed. Is his coaching career done?
Hopefully they take all the bad luck and decisions for another 20 years away from the Knicks
Not sure if this is a hot take or not, but this is how at least a quarter of the franchises should be run. Sure being in Brooklyn/New York is much more attractive than being in a most other cities, but I think teams like the Rockets, Hawks, or Bulls are capable of attracting free agents and should try taking these big swings. I get trying to build longevity but look at how far those franchises have gotten (from a team building sense).
The picks ended up being Tatum and Brown, but would the Nets have picked and developed them?
Look - every experiment the Nets have tried has failed. And failed horribly. But god damn at least they tried. That’s what I hang my hat on as a nets fans
I don't get the whole 'ha ha ha let's clown this franchise" schtick Cmon Zach Lowe, do better
[https://youtu.be/YgbYS4nxYSI?si=Xr-8Jx3JsbnOUgyw](https://youtu.be/YgbYS4nxYSI?si=Xr-8Jx3JsbnOUgyw)
The curse of Dr J lives on.
Nostalgia hating
This first second we have ever paused to look back on it.
Look, even if that trade never happened and the Nets had the picks, they would have picked Kris Dunn at #3 and Markelle Fultz at #1, both consensus picks at the time.
They stay with 1st rd picks just 2 rebuild every season smh
injury luck has really fucked us the last 4-5 years. can't say we haven't been a very active team though, not settling for mediocrity like certain other teams out there.
I guess the good thing about getting all those stars is they were able to sell them off and get a ton of picks. Time to shed some of those vets and go full tank.
To be fair, every single team in the NBA would’ve gone all in on KD and Kyrie. No one could’ve predicted what happened.
Honestly, I'd prefer this over the perpetual mediocrity that is the Chicago Bulls, Atlanta Hawks, Washington Wizards, and other large market teams that are fine with just making the 1st round for extra money.
I mean it sucks things didnt pan out but at least there was hope and excitement, especially during the KD/Kyrie era.
It’s been a wild ride. Wish injuries didn’t derail 2021, but I’m finally excited again after last night’s trades.
Honestly Tatum would probably be in Philly rn with embiid and maxey cause nets would've taken Fultz. 💀
Could be worse. Could be Detroit.
No, cause hindsight mockery journalism worded like a high schooler's Twitter posts doesn't entertain me.
Trading picks is not the same thing as trading the players those picks were used on.
This 30 for 30 in 20 years is gonna hit harder than a fresh pipe
And somehow Sean Marks is still their GM
And why wouldn't he be? He pulled us out of two collosal nets fuckups. Granted the 2nd one was partially his fault but he managed to turn KD into 9 picks + more depending on how much he can get out of Cam Johnson. If that isn't good GM work then idk what is
It was a fun train wreck to watch lol.