For both of them, it’d help if there was a legit young guy that could carry the torch, and they could take a back seat, and be healthy when it mattered, but the team was built around them dead in the middle of their primes, so them aging and not being healthy makes this situation so much worse.
Does anyone?
Philly is a great city. But their fans are truly awful. Imagine being hurled death threats for being bad.
I am proud Michigander. And I have never seen a Michigan Sports supporter ever go that low.
You still make that trade though.
>Kyrie and Hayward for the Celtics
>KD/Kyrie/Harden to the Nets etc
Moves that in hindsight didnt pan out but you still make the move to give yourself a shot.
Damn! Possibly the end of PG's Clippers era. Looked so promising at first, but in the end all that came out of it was the Clippers helping launch the next great OKC young core.
PG rightly called the Clippers bluff, he wants the 4 years, Kawhi's contract shouldn't effect his, now they are gonna have to pay or he's going Philly.
1 extra year isn't as big a deal as us fans like to make out.The window closes without Kawhi either way.
So, not a single banner or even finals appearance? Hundreds of millions in luxury taxes, a marginal future, and a massive debt of picks and swaps they still need to pay.
Cool, Cool Cool Coool.
This is such a dumb take, they made the playoffs every year and balmer made almost all that money back. Winning takes a lot of luck and skill, the clippers didn't pull it off sure but what should they have done? Just not tried?
The shitbag Clippers tampered with Kawhi in his season with the Raptors. Never got punished for irt though there were some rule changes after it happened. Lots of Toronto fans are now forever happy watching the Clippers fail.
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/report-raptors-complained-to-league-multiple-times-about-clippers-tampering-with-kawhi-leonard
https://www.libertyballers.com/2020/12/18/22187730/around-the-nba-clippers-being-investigated-for-tampering-nba-sets-trade-deadline
Basically they went to every single Kawhi game for a year, made public comments about him, talked to his friends and family, and a whole bunch of other stuff that was pretty over-the-top. Only Doc Rivers ever got fined for it. Hell, one guy even sued Jerry West over it because the Clippers were talking to Kawhi's friends tryign to get them to induce him to come to LA.
Hard to be mad at Kawhi, but fuck Uncle Dennis and Lawrence Frank. Those two are the reason we don't fully rationalize what happened as just a chip and dip.
Lol keep crying, just know that ring Kawhi won you is the only championship your poverty franchise will ever get. You should be thankful for Kawhi winning your trash team a championship.
Remember when we all thought that the Kawhi and PG Era of the Clippers would finally win the championship.
What a lifetime ago that was.
PG having huge expectations and then stinking it up. And Kawhi having the most injuries I have seen.
Cmon. Steph with a legit #2 is a playoff team.
Edit: lol. The downvotes. Warriors finished 46-36 this past year with an inconsistent Klay and despite all the injuries and time missed from players such as Wiggins.
They'd probably have to give up Kuminga with Cp3 to make it worth it for LA.
Sorry but a lineup of Curry, Podz, Paul George, Wiggins and Draymond is not moving me in the year 2024
But that’s not the point when I responded to OP. Very likely they would’ve gave up JK to get PG but that doesn’t mean the Warriors are done retooling if that trade happened..
Would not be a lot of moves to be made after that though..Wiggins is a negative asset at this point and Draymond is too important to their teams identity and an odd fit on a lot of rosters.
Just makes more sense for him to sign with Philadelphia/Orlando straight up. Those would be better teams on paper.
If he walks, I'd say that you just have to blow it up at that point, except with them opening that new arena, they're gonna want to put butts in seats and be competitive.
I think PG is gone, but he doesn't walk for nothing. Wherever he goes will be as a sign and trade, and the Clips will get someone back in return.
Off the top of my head, that could be Brandon Ingram, for instance. He ain't as good as PG, but he can put up buckets and the Pels don't want to pay him.
Kyle Neubeck report from earlier justified! The guy's got sources!
[Neubeck just now.](https://x.com/KyleNeubeck/status/1807153329778147526)
hahahahahahahahahaha
To be fair to the Clippers a younger PG didn’t help them win anything. What’s an older overpaid PG going to do.
That’s not fair to PG. Kawhi got hurt every time
Same logic, a younger Kawhi keeps getting hurt what makes you think an older Kawhi won’t?
They might patch him up with a newer version
Kawhi 2.0 patch with added bass in the laugh.
For both of them, it’d help if there was a legit young guy that could carry the torch, and they could take a back seat, and be healthy when it mattered, but the team was built around them dead in the middle of their primes, so them aging and not being healthy makes this situation so much worse.
A young guy like Maxey?
Yeah and he's gonna continue to get hurt every time. It's unfortunate but literally every run since the bubble he's gotten hurt.
Is Kawhi going to be any healthier in PGs next contract?
2021 WCF appearance??!?
1 WCF appearance 4 years ago 😂 Might as well max out CJ Mcollum if that’s your criteria.
More like maxing Lillard than McCollum.
Philly or Orlando, then.
Yup. Orlando stealing him would be something
Does he fix Orlando’s issue of creation? Feel like he’d be better for Philly
Portland has one Anfernee Simons that would solve that issue and should be available for trade.
Philly. He doesn't want to play with 20 year olds
orlando because the philly media is brutal
Indiana, he wants to come home
Source close to George does not want to be in Philly lol
He wouldn’t survive in the Philly media
Does anyone? Philly is a great city. But their fans are truly awful. Imagine being hurled death threats for being bad. I am proud Michigander. And I have never seen a Michigan Sports supporter ever go that low.
Only true idiots still fall for the narrative that Philly sports fans are bad. Ask Bryce Harper how horrible Philly fans are and you'll get laughed at
Because playing in front of a passionate crowd is like nothing else.
You can be passionate without hurling death threats though…
No doubt but there’s plenty of fan bases that also don’t really care
Why not? They already have an injury prone star that comes up short in the playoffs. He should fit in
Get ready to learn Wawa buddy
Or Mickey Mouse
I hope Philly offers him a full four year max.
So the clippers gave up all that just for this to be the outcome of the Kawhi/PG era. Brutal
You still make that trade though. >Kyrie and Hayward for the Celtics >KD/Kyrie/Harden to the Nets etc Moves that in hindsight didnt pan out but you still make the move to give yourself a shot.
I wonder if they had traded for someone else that didn't cost as much as PG, and still got Kawhi, then they might still have SGA as well.
Kawhi probably would've gone to the Lakers if the Clips cheaped out.
Doubt they thought Kawhi would be every single year
Even if they did wisely take that into consideration, 2020 was the year and they fucking choked. Hard to come back from that.
It’s like the Baron Davis trade all over again.
You had to do it. Gotta take big swings.
Damn! Possibly the end of PG's Clippers era. Looked so promising at first, but in the end all that came out of it was the Clippers helping launch the next great OKC young core.
And they're real jerks for that
PG rightly called the Clippers bluff, he wants the 4 years, Kawhi's contract shouldn't effect his, now they are gonna have to pay or he's going Philly. 1 extra year isn't as big a deal as us fans like to make out.The window closes without Kawhi either way.
Gonna be a disaster for Philly in 2 years. mark that
A 4 year max for Paul George is a mistake for any team from a basketball perspective. From a business perspective I’m sure he helps sell tickets etc
I honestly think the Clips would fold and pay him
Sadly that could very well happen. Sucks this has to be the team where the owner can solve any problem by throwing money at it and not thinking twice.
Don't let this make you forget that the Clippers traded 6 frps for PG
It was also to get Kawhi to sign as well.
How has that gone for them?
Kawhi is worth the risk tbh. Dude was so good
We'll see how they feel about the risk once they're done paying off the price tag.
They made their first WCF ever and won two games. It's one of the best Clippers runs of all time.
So, not a single banner or even finals appearance? Hundreds of millions in luxury taxes, a marginal future, and a massive debt of picks and swaps they still need to pay. Cool, Cool Cool Coool.
This is such a dumb take, they made the playoffs every year and balmer made almost all that money back. Winning takes a lot of luck and skill, the clippers didn't pull it off sure but what should they have done? Just not tried?
Overshadowed by how they had it all going for them in 2020 and choked.
SGA too. Jdub was one of the picks.
He gone
That roster without him is rough. They also don't have their picks. Stuck in no man's land
You know it's bad when not even Pistons fans want him on the Contract he's looking for.
For next time on dragon all z!
Come to Orlando PG13. It’s sunny like LA and you won’t have to pay so much in taxes
And you have the better Disneyland 😂
There is no Disneyland in Florida
Leave PG let's get some more lottery picks from the SGA trade!
So he walks to sixers and clippers get nothing back? Insane, karma for tampering with kawhi, fuck you bald ass 5 year looking bitch Lawrence Frank
what
The shitbag Clippers tampered with Kawhi in his season with the Raptors. Never got punished for irt though there were some rule changes after it happened. Lots of Toronto fans are now forever happy watching the Clippers fail.
how were they tampering I feel like I’ve never heard about this
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/report-raptors-complained-to-league-multiple-times-about-clippers-tampering-with-kawhi-leonard https://www.libertyballers.com/2020/12/18/22187730/around-the-nba-clippers-being-investigated-for-tampering-nba-sets-trade-deadline Basically they went to every single Kawhi game for a year, made public comments about him, talked to his friends and family, and a whole bunch of other stuff that was pretty over-the-top. Only Doc Rivers ever got fined for it. Hell, one guy even sued Jerry West over it because the Clippers were talking to Kawhi's friends tryign to get them to induce him to come to LA.
I don’t really get the whole trying to persuade him to come. Wasn’t he like dead set on being in LA?
Yes but Kawhi was using the Lakers as leverage.
Hard to be mad at Kawhi, but fuck Uncle Dennis and Lawrence Frank. Those two are the reason we don't fully rationalize what happened as just a chip and dip.
I dont blame Kawhi at all. I wouldnt even blame the Clippers if they hadnt been such absolute dipshits about it.
Still cant let go eh
Never, I’m so happy yall trade Canadian boy SGA away and I can actually root for him Crazy how he ended up being best player in whole situation
Lol keep crying, just know that ring Kawhi won you is the only championship your poverty franchise will ever get. You should be thankful for Kawhi winning your trash team a championship.
You’re a clippers fan?
Oh I know you ain’t talking
Daryl got his guy
He's going to Orlando
Remember when we all thought that the Kawhi and PG Era of the Clippers would finally win the championship. What a lifetime ago that was. PG having huge expectations and then stinking it up. And Kawhi having the most injuries I have seen.
what other teams besides Orlando and Philly can make a run for him?
the Pistons lmao
Welcome to hell Piston P
Outside chance OKC, maybe Houston but idk bout their Cap situation. I can’t think of any team besides Philly and maybe Detroit in the East.
I mean if Philly or ORL offer him a max and LAC isn’t willing to, yeah he’s probably leaving.
He should’ve came to the warriors man wtf lmao
Maybe he wants to be on a playoff team
Cmon. Steph with a legit #2 is a playoff team. Edit: lol. The downvotes. Warriors finished 46-36 this past year with an inconsistent Klay and despite all the injuries and time missed from players such as Wiggins.
They'd probably have to give up Kuminga with Cp3 to make it worth it for LA. Sorry but a lineup of Curry, Podz, Paul George, Wiggins and Draymond is not moving me in the year 2024
But that’s not the point when I responded to OP. Very likely they would’ve gave up JK to get PG but that doesn’t mean the Warriors are done retooling if that trade happened..
Would not be a lot of moves to be made after that though..Wiggins is a negative asset at this point and Draymond is too important to their teams identity and an odd fit on a lot of rosters. Just makes more sense for him to sign with Philadelphia/Orlando straight up. Those would be better teams on paper.
>would not be a lot of moves to be made after that though.. Let’s get back to this later on.
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Klay is likely gone and we worsened our relationship with wiggins b/c the whole team Canada thing we’re so done
What? Other than his health, he is a significant upgrade over Wiggins and Klay. Lol.
Paul George has been carrying the Clippers on his back. Something Wiggins and Klay combined couldn't do for any team.
Clips should have accepted their fate and trade PG and Kawhi last year and load up on picks. They were never gonna get it done
Yes, leave for nothing please
Good thing they won a title, have all their picks moving forward and perennial MVP candidate SGA. Err....
Come back to OKC on the MLE bby
If he walks, I'd say that you just have to blow it up at that point, except with them opening that new arena, they're gonna want to put butts in seats and be competitive. I think PG is gone, but he doesn't walk for nothing. Wherever he goes will be as a sign and trade, and the Clips will get someone back in return. Off the top of my head, that could be Brandon Ingram, for instance. He ain't as good as PG, but he can put up buckets and the Pels don't want to pay him.
He gone
BRING IT TO ME BABY