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ormip

>A slam dunk is worth 3 points This would really benefit the Mavs, at one point in the playoffs we had more alley oop dunks than every other western team combined. I like these rules! >If a player misses a free throw, points are deducted Ah shit, nevermind


downinCarolina

I could see an arena getting hyped during free throws


p00py-

Then they would have to make it so I can't just foul bad free throw shooters because it would be happening way too often


Takemyfishplease

Foul out with 4.


p00py-

And the loophole to that would be sub in a player from the end of the bench to foul the worst free throw shooter immediately


zlaw32

Maybe a soccer red card style rule where a foul out reduces the number of players you can have on the court. Or more like a penalty box and have the power play limited by time


ShinobuSimp

Maybe a point deduction when both are missed instead of


str8rippinfartz

It would just make bad FT shooters unplayable That would be interesting 


Silly_Stable_

Make it so for not shooting fouls any player on the floor can take the shots.


FullmetalEzio

gobert really could end up with like -10 points


renecade24

He would make up for his missed free throws with his dunks and rim protection.


Bobblefighterman

And screens


throwawayyrofl

He would be unplayable unless he improved his free throws. A 60% shooter would only be expected to get 0.4 points per trip down the line (for 2 shots). He would just get hacked on the offensive side every time


renecade24

You don't think it would be advantageous to have the best rim protector in the NBA on your team if dunks were worth 3 points?


throwawayyrofl

No, not if your offensive game is completely gutted. Good post defenders that can actually shoot free throws would be way more valuable


JackieDaytonaAZ

? this change would make him a 30ppg scorer. he dunks more than anyone in the league and averages 64% FTs over his career


BailysmmmCreamy

How would adding one point to his dunks turn him from a 15ppg scorer to a 30ppg scorer you may need to redo the math on that one lmao


Moltk

They may feed him a tad more if his shots are worth 50% more


BailysmmmCreamy

If there is one thing we can be absolutely certain about Rudy Gobert as a basketball player, it’s that he does does not have the offensive versatility to be fed more on offense. He’s good for 5-6 buckets a game and that’s it.


lexington59

He'd lose on average 0.6 points per trip to the line And would only gain 1 point from dunks. Add in that'd He'd be fouled more often


FullmetalEzio

okay man it was a joke, im glad he would be good in this shitpost hypothetical case that's not gonna happen


questforthelove

Why are you mad that someone responded hypothetically to your hypothetical lol


FullmetalEzio

i still have 30 min left until i can leave work and i kinda wanna be playing elden ring since I'm on the last boss and this dude came with logical thoughts and we don't stand by logical thoughts on /r/nba. Nah for real, I just named the first player I could think of who wasn't a great FT shooter and had low ppg, was gonna say luka but he was the scoring leader.


Temporary-Level-5410

Alright


Vegetable-Tooth8463

LOL


Sharpedd

Dang rip luka


Own-Lynx498

The Celtics stopped those oops so well even without Porzingis. Mazulla the genius.


FlyingDiscsandJams

The key was stick to Luka with 1 defender and make him hit a tough shot, any time they sent help the ball was going to an open guy. Plus Tatum was big enough to defend the lobs. What a series by Joe.


DrunkenMasterII

This only works if you have the right players to defend him 1 on 1 otherwise you can get in trouble from him scoring. Celtics were stacked.


--Alix--

Yea, Timberwolves were the best defensive team but they had nobody to stick on Luka specifically. Meanwhile Celtics were able to shut down literally everybody on the Mavs individually.


The_Dok33

Mavs were like "Hey we can attack Sam Hauser!" and it made Sam end up with the highest plusminus.


bedlam_au

He still scored a bunch even with some absurd JB/JT/Jrue attention. But it was the scoring we could live with. Take away his options, make him work hard for buckets then abuse him on the other end so he's Embiid-gassed in the second half. And rely on Kyrie to do a Harden.


lexington59

Man Luka would have some truly inconsistent statlines. Like seems he either goes like 9/10 on free throws or like 4/10, and no in between. Like some games he'll get 40/10/10 other games he'll get like 18/10/10 losing like 6 points from free throw misses


Independent_Bat_7131

> 3) In the last three seconds of the game, field goals are worth 8 points instead of 2 or 3 points So Peyton Pritchard wins every close game for the Celtics LMAO As a Mavs fan I cry but that dude is FIRE in those moments


Cheeseish

Wtffff these are mf quidditch rules


WanderlustFella

I am in the belief that a team (most likely Kim Jung Un's favorite team) lost by 7 and so the team lobbied (bribed) team officials to add this rule. Eight is such a weird number to be awarded at the end of the game.


Pandamonium98

I doubt it. 8 is just a number that high enough to overcome a reasonable sized lead, but not so high that the rest of the game is irrelevant


FavaWire

No it's really a bit like NBA JAM or PLAYGROUNDS 2.


GSG2120

Just having to keep a game within 16 pts to keep it a two possession game is fucking hilarious


str8rippinfartz

Though tbf how often do you score twice in the final 3 sec Basically need to hold and score just under 3, foul, and then get another shot off


FlyingMocko

This is how i felt withJordan Poole after the ‘22 Finals.


schmubbyboi

Giannis would get chopped down with a machete when he drives to the hoop.


enad58

Doc over there asking the ref if he can decline free throws.


Statalyzer

Intentional lane violations?


Born-Spinach5235

Memphis fs with Ja dunking and throwing lobs to JJJ and Edey and all the shooters they got


KneelBeforeCube

Also known as the Fuck Midranges rules.


FoundMyResolve

Demar “Irrelevant Midrange Game” Derozan


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Dinobot2_

So Slamball, minus the rim protection and ball security.


EnderLFowl

Imagine the lob city clippers with this rule lmaooo


deathrattleshenlong

Make it extra. If the player contesting the dunk gets sent flying out of bounds, it's a 5 points FG. DeAndre Jordan and Blake Griffin are now both MVP candidates.


rorank

That’s not an MVP candidate, that’s a GOAT right there. At least 20 points off only lobs every game.


Pardonme23

The Bynum Gasol team literally had more lobs than the Clippers lol


WanderlustFella

You mean there will be a lot more people fouling out


Maverick_1991

Would that be so bad? Physical games and players having to play smart defense would help the league 


[deleted]

How do they clearly define a dunk tho? I’d hate to see a game end on a bad “no dunk” call


AffordableGrousing

There would have to be objective criteria, like "does it look rad as hell"


kushnokush

If D-Wade gives it a 10


ShinobuSimp

The ball in a downwards trajectory after it leaves the hand I imagine


[deleted]

The debates gonna revolve around “does the hand have to touch any part of the basket, and what is defined as a natural touch during a dunk and an unnatural touch” It’s NBA rule writing and NBA officiating: they’ll find a way to fuck this up


chironex101

I think rim protection is already important as it should be.look at player like embiid.the dude is elite defender just because of his rim protection


antieverything

Hate to spoil the fun, but these rules were only used for about a year between 1997 and 1998. They were a short-lived side-effect of Kim Jong Il's weird habit of getting personally involved in government initiatives he was passionate about, in this case developing basketball in the country. By 1998 there was a government basketball research organization which had, presumably, figured out that these rules were dogshit. As you can probably imagine, basketball development in contemporary DPRK is geared toward FIBA competition and uses FIBA rules (like everywhere else outside of the US). [https://www.nknews.org/2024/04/the-little-known-true-story-behind-north-koreas-bizarre-basketball-rules/](https://www.nknews.org/2024/04/the-little-known-true-story-behind-north-koreas-bizarre-basketball-rules/)


eoin62

I can’t believe you would do this to me. I want to believe that North Korea still has these awesome rules. 


ryux999

lmao fuck it we gonna implement these rules anyway. Sounds fun af


VeinIsHere

Party pooper


jkeefy

These rules all seem like they’d help the Mavs a lot lol. PJ and Kyrie only swish their 3s. We had the most dunks in the playoffs by like 60 lol


Maverick_1991

Teams would just play Hack-a-Luka


jkeefy

Every team would play hack-a-someone. Maybe only the Celtics and Thunder would be immune to that


confuddly

If these rules were implemented, otherwise net positive players like Mitchell Robinson wouldn’t even be in the league It would have to be someone on Shaq’s level of impact to justify the minus 8-10 points a game


AffordableGrousing

Yeah, that would be way too easy to abuse. I think to counter they would have to let the team choose the free throw shooter regardless of who was fouled.


ChickenLiverNuts

The Sixers have been amazing free throw shooters ever since we got rid of Ben. Even our bench guys shoot well id be surprised if we havent been #1 in FT% multiple times in the last couple years. The worst ones are probably Drummond and Dwight but they dont play much.


Rudy_Gobert

Do you get 8 free throws on a shooting foul in the last 3 seconds of the game?


L0N01779

Potentially losing 8 points if you miss them lol


EezeeBreezey

-Tied game -Bad free throw shooter is fouled -He alternates misses and makes for eight free throws giving him a total of 0 points -Game ends in a tie


Rudy_Gobert

You are up three and lose by 5 by missing free throws. I\`d actually love to see that finish!


Megatron_McLargeHuge

Foul Giannis and the last 3s takes 15 minutes.


SquimJim

Step 1: Sign Dennis Rodman to deal Step 2: Have him recruit Kim Jung-Un Step 3: Win all the championships Idk which franchise is most likely to do this. Bulls?


N3rdMan

At this point, the Bulls will need ~~divine~~ totalitarian intervention to win a chip.


BounceMan

Those rules are nuts.  Mavs with their lobs and Luka end of game clutchness benefit nicely from #1 and #3.  Luka will have to stop sucking at free throws though.


Merkin_Jerkin

It makes free throws so much worse. A 70% freethrow shooter shooting two under NBA rules gives you 1.4 points per possession. Under DPRK rules, it’s 0.8. Last year, average points per possesion leaguewide was 1.15. That means you need to be a ~78% free throw shooter to beat league average offense under DPRK rules. Add in the other rules that increase scoring and it’s probably at least 80%.


theabhster

I think Shaq would’ve been a liability


Templar-Order

100% even though dunks are three points, all you have to do is foul him when he touches the ball. Plus you get a free 24 fouls from the 12th, 13th, 14th and 15th roster spot players.


PsychologicalArt7451

No? Shaq would still be OP considering he can dunk through contact. That's a 3 point play every time considering his FT % is 52%.


theabhster

Sir I think we took this too seriously


thy_armageddon

Scott Foster


NBA2024

That wasn’t the question. Which team?


referee-superfan

Refs = the best team


Thunderhorse74

Whichever team the *Supreme Leader* wants to win that day.


FriendlyNBASpidaMan

Since he's a huge Bulls fan, I can see this helping them.


ZarduHasselffrau

Payton Pritchard would average 25+ with just 4 field goal attempts per game.


phlumpy

I would say the team who has the best free throw percentage benefits the most consistently. With this ruleset, rule 4 is probably most likely to happen reliably. Shooting 75% is essentially equivalent to 50% with these new rules. It’s probably a bigger incentive to go foul anyone who is a sub 60% free throw shooter. Doing so would result in an abysmal expected <0.56 points per possession.


Timpa87

Where is 6. Players can be executed at the discretion of the Supreme Leader.


Phenomenal2313

Aka “ Fuck your Midrange , we going slamball” , but losing points for missing free throws is kinda interesting


eoin62

Losing points for missing free throws is INSANE. There would be so many fouls. 


manticore16

What channel is slamball on these days?


Banana_Pete

I can see an extra five replays/game to see if the 3pt attempt grazed the rim or not. Maybe they have sensors? FG jumping to 8pts is absurd lol. I could see all points jumping up 1 though.


jimmyre10

> In the last three seconds of the game, field goals are worth 8 points Am I the only one who thinks this rule is batshit crazy???? This seems so insane lmao. Imagine building a 3 possession lead and it’s not safe because of one shot in the last 3 seconds


-Tazriel

The meta would just be to intentionally foul in the last 3 seconds right?


learningmusiclol

Wish Dunks being worth 3 was an actual NBA rule


mouseball89

Man if shaq played with these rules he would simultaneously be the best and worst player of all time


CommonerChaos

That clean-swish rule would get annoying fast. We'd have to stop play during crucial moments to review if the ball scraped the hoop or not. This could happen many times per game with the amount of 3PT attempts in today's league.


Statalyzer

Also for some dunks, like a couple of the famous Blake Griffen posters where he technically never touched the rim and just threw the ball threw the hoop from half an inch away...


Realistic_Condition7

I don’t think it would be very hard to install technology that lights up any time the rim is hit (sorta like wickets in Cricket, but this would only need to blink for a second and only paid attention to when the shot is attempted from beyond the arc).


DblockR

Absurd. All of these. Absurd. A game can end in a tie…. But every single type of shot has some random bonus (dunk, swish, etc) and in the last 3 seconds they are worth 8?! What happens if you foul a guy with 1 second to go and he makes it? 8+FT=9? So a foul on a 3pter that goes in could be 10. wtf


sliccricc83

I'd actually be into games ending in a tie instead of going to overtime in the regular season


iamacelticsenjoyer

Why did this get upvotes? Lol


Soxalam2

Jamal Murray getting clutch 8 point buckets is a cheat code


darth_butcher

Did Kim Jong Un came up with these rules? But honestly, some of these would be fun to watch.


KingsElite

Even if he didn't, he'll say he did, so sure


Thriller83

Are these actually the rules North Korean teams play by or is this all satire?


Ok_Perception3180

Rules 1-4 = pretty cool idea all things considered Rule 5 = make rules 1-4 utterly pointless. (No pun intended)


HeyItsChase

Pacers shoot 3s and score inside. The nearly complete lack of a midrange (spicy p dabbles) makes these rules work for us. Basically a chance at 1 extra point on every play. The Free throws hurts a bit but we were 13th in ft% with very few taken so that's probably not bad.


Chuckyducky6

Make dunks worth 4 and everything else worth 1.


kushnokush

Rule number 3 is ridiculous lmao at least make it like 1 second and 5 points


Statalyzer

Also makes end game timing really interesting if there's a similar shot clock. I guess you'd want to shoot with around 30 seconds left so your opponents can't run the clock down to under 3.


NoBook9868

Wish they'd adopt these crazy rules just for play-in games


ZandrickEllison

I’m curious how teams would gameplan for the final shot. Presumably you’d always intentionally foul to prevent an 8 point game winner.


The_MadStork

Fuck it, they should test rule 1 and 4 in the D-League, they both sound great.


EagleswonSuperBowl52

Easily teams with good shooting. Free Throws are very common in the nba and most 3 point makes are swishes.


20I6

4 would be wild lol


snappy173

It would probably benefit the Celtics. They don’t really depend on free throws that much, and mazulla ball would adapt to optimize for more dunks


Arkham14

I love the "missing free throw reducing one point" rule. It's kinda tricky. VERY tricky but an interesting concept. I think it should re-evaluate the calls over clutch-time fouls.


GoForAGap

You definitely saw the circlejerk post lmao


Delicious_Series3869

North Korea might be onto something with some of these rules. I’m all for further embarrassing players who can’t make their free throws, and making dunks relevant again.


PlaneCall6012

Tie results in both teams being executed


llaume

You need FT% of 75% to average 1 point for 2 FTA. Really you'd need even more than that to avoid being hacked because the rest of the rules increase efficiency elsewhere. This would make almost half of the players in the league unplayable. I'd guess Boston is still the best team in the league because their whole center rotation can shoot FTs.


pointguard22

zero. zero teams would benefit from these cockamamie rules


TW_Yellow78

What about the rule that losers are shot for disappointing the great leader?


QubixVarga

idk about the winner, but I think the viewers are the losers. just imagining all the reviews for if the ball touches the rim or not...


Pantiesafteralongrun

I can see the game being 20x more fun


Pantiesafteralongrun

Detroit takin L’s 0-82 season can be achieved


cuftapolo

Rule 4 and 5 are fine, the rest are just awful.


No_Amoeba_9272

No basic human rights but the most complicated form of basketball ever created...


RiskProductions

Miami prolly


Ok-Luck-2866

Game ending in a tie means next point wins? Let’s go!


RunninOnMT

Damiam Lillard low key kills it here. He's a little old these days to be dunking all over dudes, but he's getting you 8 points at the end of the game, not missing any free throws and you know that shit isn't ending in a tie. So yeah give me the bucks.


FavaWire

This looks a bit like the rules in NBA 2K PLAYGROUNDS 2. The game actually awards extra points for Perfect Dunks and Perfect Jumpshots. With these NK rules Dr. J would have become the all-time scoring leader. Today? I dunno. Brandon Ingram? Demar Derozan?


Important-Shallot131

I feel like Dame dolla benefits alot from rules two and 3.  Giannis from rule 1.


Dubonthetrac

Warriors would be a title contender again


FoundMyResolve

Not gonna lie these rules are kinda dope, but I’m not a fan of an 8 point field goal haha


magicking013

Ben Simmons would legit have to retire lmao


Argyrus777

6. Let kim win


JoJoPizzaG

Would work if they remove the offensive 3 seconds. We need to pack the paint and make defense legal again.


RealGoodBub

Dunks being worth 3 would make Gobert and Wemby MVP candidates. Not only would they score more points, their sheer presence at the rim would turn away 3 pt attempts.


KoppleForce

Can we trial this in the IST or at least a half of the all star game


zouinenoah29

Man other teams would feast on fouling Giannis in games


Zebracorn42

76ers


AmbitionExtension184

NBA needs elam endings more than any other rule change.


MartialArtsHyena

Oh shit. The off-season posts have started!


WafflesTheWookiee

Welcome to the Offseason everyone


sorendiz

Idk about overall team benefit but under this rule set Yao could very well be the GOAT lol. 3 pt dunks? Missing FTs loses you points?  No hesitation, gimme the 7'6 dude hitting FTs at an 85% clip, dunking with zero visible effort and denying many of your dunk attempts just by existing in the general area of the rim. Good fucking luck trying to hack *that* off the court in the clutch lmao


crskatt

is there a difference between a 'dunk' and a 'slam dunk'?


Intelligent_Top_328

How about we do Dagestan rules? Who would be the champion?


Nonartisticdog

Was waiting for some good offseason action 


Youngtro

I can tell you which team gets even worse then they already are. It's my Detroit Pistons.


T-T-N

Hack a shaq is now a real plan


gdg76

How the hell does North Korea have anyone in the country who can dunk? Literally no immigrants and any hooper would be out of their mind to go there even for a ton of money (ex: Rodman, who is out of his mind). And the citizens I've seen on the small bit of footage are all short and barely surviving? If they did have someone who could dunk in the country, if I were them I'd do everything I could to stay off of the dictators radar since they could execute you on a whim. Ha - a quick look at the North Korean national team shows the tallest guy is 6'4" and 183 lbs. yeesh. so yeah prob some guys who are on the taller side with hops who can dunk but I would imagine it's a rarity in the games, hence the bonus.


Da-goatest

As an aside I’d love to see a summer league game with these rules.


Cultural_Tank_6947

GSW. Don't let anyone other than Curry to touch the ball. That's the 3s turning to 4s and the no missed FTs. And if he's clear, then let Kuminga go downhill.


IMovedYourCheese

>If a player misses a free throw, points are deducted We may see a team end the game with negative points


No-Wafer-9571

Mad funny that a swish behind the arc is worth 4 points. Do they call it a swish? That's what it sounds like no matter what language they speak.


trowdatawhey

Are there any north koreans that can dunk? Missed free throws should not be punished because free throws are compensation for having an illegal act committed on you.


GHPLee

The Bucks are winning the championship. Nevermind, just saw #4.


wharf_rat_01

Washington Generals


grandmasterfunk

Yeah, but the problem is it'd help the Globetrotters too.


airbus29

4 would legit ruin the game


cygnusloops

WNBA