Always excited for anything Witcher disappointing or whatever. An admirer of the saga and the games long before any particular actor's involvement. Both zebrowski and cavill did well in portraying Geralt. But they are just actors playing a character. Although in a continuous tale actor change is not anything good but if the transition is satisfactory then ok. But I am a little disappointed by the writers' ability to tell a good, coherent, interesting story. It should have been better
I'm excited.
I have very low expectations with virtually every game-to-TV show adaptation, so I've been totally fine with what The Witcher show tries to do. I think they've done a good job, if you view the show in isolation, away from the games/books.
I also watch with my wife, who has no background knowledge of The Witcher, and she's really enjoying it, so we are totally fine with the show.
Yeah I'm excited. I thought season 3 was incredibly fun. Binged it in one go. Then came back to visit it a couple more times. I particularly liked the design of Thanedd as well as the Nilfgaardian capital with its evocation of Rome.
Because I really enjoyed season 3, I'm looking forward to season 4. They've cast some super interesting folks and great actors for some of the upcoming roles too.
Ultimately though it's a show. I like what it gives me so I look forward to it's next installation because I've enjoyed the story so far. In the meantime I'll watch other stuff that I like or dislike. I don't dwell much on it once the initial excitement of watching it and engaging deeply with it passes.
Willing to give Liam a chance for a few episodes. Very concerned if the chemistry with Yennefer or the care and concern for Ciri will be as good as Cavill pulled off though ☹️
I wouldn't say Cavill had particularly good chemistry with Chalotra, so I'm hopeful Hemsworth can match it on that front. I'm more concerned about the steadily decreasing quality of the writing. Season 3 was an absolute slog.
In the reading room video it looks like Liam has great chemistry with both Aya and Joey. Although in the books Geralt only meets Yennefer and Ciri again almost at the very end. So if there are Geralt/Yennefer/Ciri scenes in S4, they are all Netflix invention.
Thats been telegraphed way ahead of time. Before S1 dropped they said they were making more room for the female leads, and cavill even supported that at the time.
Yes, and I'm looking forward to that, would have been a pity if they had kept Yen as a jade figurine for months and then a prisoner for most of the rest of the story. But that does not mean that the trio will have any scenes together, except at the end. So, Liam's chemistry with Jaskier and the Hansa might be more important than with Yen and Ciri. But no matter what, I think he'll be a good Geralt and am very much looking forward to the next two seasons.
Btw, you wouldn't by any chance have a link to where Cavill supports the idea of having more room for the female leads? I guess his die-hard fans who always complain that he's hardly in the show and that it's become a Ciri/Yennefer show only have not heard about that (or chosen not to hear it).
I liked season 3 a lot more than season 2, so my hype is pretty much restored. But the thing that really gets me excited is all the new directors coming in for season 4. That's been my beef with the show since season 2. How'd we go from HBO-tier directors to BBC directors? (Note: I'm sure it had to do with moving production to the UK and Covid lockdown constraints on local hires but it was so offensive to my palate that I still have to complain, apologies) I hope having HBO-tier directors back next season really shows in the look and feel of the show. That's my hope and why I'm back on the hype train. Plus, I really like the look of Liam with the cast. The table read video was adorable. Geralt and Yennefer are everything to me.
this got me so so excited too! knowing that we got directors from shows such as The Terror, For All Mankind, and The Great has me so hyped and like you said Liam looked really great along the cast during the table read, it looks like their chemistry is gonna be amazing!
If you can't discern between different directors, that's cool. But it impacts my enjoyment, and I'm really glad to see directors like Alex Garcia Lopez back. Tricia Brock is another one I'm excited for because, being familiar with her work, she has a wonderful ability to leave her stamp as director even when working within someone else's sandbox. Halt and Catch Fire's "Who Needs a Guy" is an episode I've closely analyzed. She has great instincts, brings out the best in actors, and her episodes look beautiful.
As for the writing, my comment made clear that I found season 3 to be an improvement overall. The writers room, save for a few people coming and going each season, hasn't changed much. Meanwhile, directors are more transient. I'm glad to see evidence of better judgment in terms of those hires heading into season 4. It certainly increases my excitement.
So far I've liked the show a lot. I'm excited for what comes next but I am apprehensive/scared of the casting change. Not because I don't think Liam will do well, just because of the sudden change. It might take a rewatch to get over it. If Liam was cast from season 1 he would probably do a fine job and there wouldn't be an issue. It's just the casting change. And man how unlucky, it's not even a side character but the main main character.
I don't even plan on watching it. Season 1 had a couple good episodes, 2 was bad but I seem to recall a few good moments. 3 just made me feel nothing. I'm sure my wife will watch season 4 and I might catch a few episodes but I have zero expectations for it, hopefully it's good and if so I'll be happy to watch it.
I'm pleasantly surprised by the optimistic responses here. Glad it had a fan base but the show doesn't speak to me like the books or games did.
I gave up halfway through the third season; the relationships in the show, which are at the core of the narrative to me, have been so rushed as to be entirely unbelievable, so there's just nothing in it to compel me at this point.
I'm very excited to see the Hansa come together and the worst villain come to life, Leo Bonhart. They cast a great actor for that role, also for Regis (although he does not look at all like I imagined him, but I don't mind as long as he transports the humour and idiosyncrasies of the character) and I even got curious about the Rats in S3. I have a very good feeling about S4 and am definitely looking very much forward to it!
Spoiler alert
Season 3 actually followed the books, especially with Geralt almost dying in a fight against Vilgefortz, and the Thanned massacre Tissaia orchestrated with her blunder, together with Cirilla getting lost in a desert.
Just following the books and following them well are two different things. The Thanedd coup was way better in the books, mostly because the sorcerers could do something a bit more enjoyable than creating some ball of light and a fight in a rather small room that's supposed to contain that many nilfgaardian soldiers. Plus the similarities end about there. Yen prioritizing some lodge over ciri, and doing what Philippa is supposed to be doing is insane.
Exactly, and the almost complete lack of Geralt fights monsters is totally book accurate, too, Netflix even added the flesh monster and the one in the labyrinth.
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Literally this
That's what the naysayers wanted, right? Book accuracy. So we got it... and they're still complaining lol which proves that they just enjoy complaining lol
I'm in it till the end cause I'm a witcher fan not a cavil fan.
Nobody has an issue with that.
What people complain about is:
*Voleth Meir.
*Obelisks cause the planes to merge and enable travel between them.
*Yennefer was willing to hurt Ciri to get what she wanted.
*Vesemir wanted to re-start the school and was willing to hurt or kill Ciri to do it.
*Eskel was a drunken imbecile who bought whores to Kaer Morhen.
*Vesemir did not give a single shit about Eskel defiling Kaer Morhen so.
All of those are massively against book characterisation.
>All of those are massively against book characterisation.
Eh. No. Disagree if you really want to, but the book gives almost no explanation to anything... lol it ends WITHOUT a conclusion to the wild hunt arc for christ sake. What the show is doing is filling in very obvious plot holes with new storylines.
If ciri is the one that can travel between worlds, how come eredin can do it also? No explanation, so the show came up with one.
Eskel being a jerk and dying... eh... was more than he did in the books, he and the other witchers were barely in them. Unlike the games, which is where you like him from, don't deny it.
Vesemir wanting to restart the school... where does it say in the books that he absolutely would not do that?
You're nitpicking. The game did the exact same thing the show is doing, adding and changing things... the difference is you are used to the nonsense from the games, and the show is presenting a different nonsense that you dislike, simple as that.
Eredin can travel between realms through psychic projection (this is why the Hunt appear as wraiths) and to a limited degree via Navigators who are attuned enough to the way Conjunctions work to take advantage of when the various Spheres align to travel. That means they can only got to specific, limited places at certain times. Unicorns and Sources can go anywhere they want whenever they want. All this is explained in *Lady of the Lake.*
Show Eredin is completely different to book Eredin; he's weedy where he should be massive, he doesn't have a stellar empire to re-conquer because the Aen Undod don't exist, he doesn't despise humans and find them fit only for slavery because he doesn't know they exist, the Dearg Ruardri aren't an elite terror cavalry/slave-snatching service, and he doesn't know anything about the Haen Ichor because that comes up after his stranding.
The books show Vesemir not wanting to start the schools back up after the peasantry stormed Kaer Morhen. He finds the way it tortured boys distasteful. Book Vesemir would not subject Ciri to potentially fatal experimentation to start again in any case. The closest he gets in non-canon media aside from the show is when he brings Triss in to see the mutagens during the first game's prologue, and even then it's a half-hearted attempt because he knows Leo is too old.
Eskel gets very little page time, but in what he does get he's shown as courteous and gentlemanly, not a whoremonger and drunkard. He treats Ciri and Triss well and rips his brother Wolves a new one for their lack of manners towards them.
On top of that, Kaer Morhen is basically sacred ground for Vesemir. He forbids trespassers and keeps the secrets of accessing it fiercely. Only Witchers he trusts absolutely are welcome there, and the invitation only extends as long as he considers someone worthy. This gets thrown in Geralt's face in *Season of Storms* by Brehen when he complains about never having a safe place to go. Ironic indeed when in the books the Cats were the ones who whipped up the peasents to attack Kaer Morhen in revenge for the Wolves all but annihilitaing their School in a fight the Cats started.
The show character assassinates Vesemir and the Wolves in *Nightmare of the Wolf* by having them producing monsters to terrorise the peasantry.
Triss is the only non-Witcher we know who was trusted to go there in the books, though presumably Yen has been as well over the years.
Even if for some ungodly reason Vesemir had tolerated outsiders to befoul the living graves of his brothers, anyone who goes to Kaer Morhen at that time of year is isolated from the nearest towns by over a week through passes that are sealed by snow.
This is what people mean when they complain about the departures from the books.
There was one element I did like from the show; book Emhyr is exactly the sort to slaughter an unborn child to set someone on the path of vengeance, even if Francesca leading the Scoia'tel is nonsensical.
First you label the voice of reason as "coming from the games" which is I guess a trick you learned from the showrunners, to explain away any criticism of the incoherence and abuse of basic themes and characterizations. And when you are shown all the points making it clear you yourself have not read the books (or played the games) and lack logic, you retort like a five-year old. What does it take for you to be ashamed of yourself?
On one hand, Eskel does get fleshed out a lot by the games, especially Wild Hunt. On the other hand, he's a well-mannered bro in the little we see from the books and they were clearly hoping for the shock factor in the show based on the positive regard people had for him from the games.
No. You cant go for a few seasons against the source material, than forcibly hit some plot points and act as if you are book accurate.
That's like having Frodo and Sam go through Disneyland but at the end they end up at Ithilien, meet Faramir and say "see? We do follow book, ee met Faramir". Like.. no, you dont. You just happened to cross path with a book, but your story cant progress same when Aragorn is at Rivendell, Gimli id an Army leader and Eowyn is leading charge at Saruman. Who falls because they destroy a dam. "See? Saruman got flooded, ee follow books."
It doesnt work like that. When you change the entire foundation and characterization. It is toomlate and too little to randomly hit some plot points, with different context and different characterization.
Like.. how even can Ciri skate fight Rience when he is already dead in the show?
This is a very good analogy. And exactly what is wrong with the show. Peter Jackson slaughtered characters and did not understand many of the core themes or plot points in the LotR movies, at a level comparable to S1 of the Witcher, but he did that increasingly towards the end so it does not wholly spoil things. Witcher went off the rails after S2E1 for much less motivation. PJ at least followed the rule of the cool, the Witcher incoherence is inexplicable.
similarly as Game of Thrones. They laid out a strong foundation and then started deviating. But due to the foundation being strong, their deviating took a while to be noticably wonky (unless you were a core fan who read the books etc, im sure cracks could be visible sooner).
But with Witcher show, when you right of the gate start with Season 7-8 level of butchery, how do you expect to course correct from there? Like.. you flushed it. There's no way fixing it, you can just make that turd look shinier, but it will be forever held back by that cracked foundation. Like Hunger Games did. First movie did many questionable changes and choice, and then, when second movie came, it tried to stick with the book as much as it could, but it had to juggle weird movie 1 decisions. And while the movie is still best out of the trilogy, it still couldnt achieve what it wanted to achieve, due to how first movie handled various things. Catching Fire could approximate, could go 1:1, but still was forced to deviate at times.
As you say.. you can start deviating towards the end, cause momentum of great beginning is carrying it. As Herbert in Dune says.. "beginnings are the most delicate". You mess up this and ciao & ahoy.
Have Frodo send Sam back is awful change, but makes more sense towards the end, with ring ahving full control and Gollum whispering into his ear. But have Frodo start right away as annoying brat, well good luck making us believe that Sam even wanna stick with him.
It is too late for changes to course correct. Story is off the rails now. Best course they can do is just commit to their fan fiction 100% and dont look back.
I actually don't get a lot of the S3 criticisms. Has anyone got an ELI5 for me? I enjoyed it.
I am keen for S4, because I dont think you can survive as a netflix series with a big change in leading man unless literally everyone on the project is 100% keen for it. From what I understand literally everyone remaining is super invested and thats always a good indicator.
Well, they wouldn't communicate to the outside world that they're not feeling their multi-million dollar project anymore.
Season 3 had the worst acting, it was the most tedious and the scenario-writing was awful. It became unbearable around the midway point. You can actually see the imdb-ratings collapsing around that point as well
No but the "not feeling it" would translate to a series cancellation. I would imagine they lobbied netflix hard to keep going. Thats energy, passion, something.
I mean the acting has been super wooden, especially from geralt, since day 1. But the back half of that series had a lot of good Ciri and Jaskier content.
Yeah but with Geralt the acting is kind of intentional. Although Cavill is kind of like that. And no, the series has been a hit for Netflix to the point of it being valid for continuation.
Yeah and i expect theres an element of sunk costs too. Thats likely why there have been so many spinoffs considered. Just to grab more money out of the investment.
Yeah the spinoffs were disasters and the next season is going to have a dramatic drop in viewership. Netflix really wanted this to compete with the GOT-prequel and the Rings of Power, building a cinematic universe around the property. There is a chance that season 5 will simply be cancelled if viewership declines too harshly.
Depends. Yeah the spinoffs had some very dumb decisions (i liked the dorf) but Rings of Power isnt doing amazingly either (i liked the dorfs).
I dont think they will cancel s5 now it has been greenlit unless it tanks super hard. I cant imagine that negative reviews enter into netflixes consideration too strongly as they persisted with snyders second rebel moon film.
Probably witcher is something that, despite a lot of loud noise, will get a lot of people watching who have no idea about the drama. It will just show as a suggestion for hordes of zombies to continue watching.
My partner and I also lost our excitement through S3. It was a noticeable downgrade from what was already an uneven show. We may try and come back to it just to see, but we don’t talk about amongst ourselves anymore and there’s not going to be much rush to get to it when it does finally come out.
Same here, dropped in the middle of S3 because even allowing for deviations and inconsistency, it was just suddenly extremely generic in execution, dialogue and had no energy.
I'm still looking forward to it. Aside from season 1 which I enjoyed on first watch, I tend to enjoy the show more on a rewatch once I see the direction they've gone in compared to the books. As a standalone the show does fine and I'm enjoying it as it's own little alternate universe version of Witcher. (Also, I'm excited to see what Liam brings! I liked Henry fine, but his chemistry with Anya was hit or miss for me. As someone who loves the Yennefer-Geralt subplot in all versions of Witcher, I'm looking forward to seeing how this works with Liam)
I know it's something that gets ridiculed a lot on reddit, but... I like the show. It's not what I expected it to be when it was announced but I've found it to be a fun and entertaining adventure which isn't something a lot of Fantasy shows try to be since GOT. Plus, the cast is fantastic.
I'm incredibly optimistic over the last two seasons. I genuinely enjoyed the majority of season 3. Had my own issues like anyone (which I could rant about on my own time), but I am usually very happy to watch the show. I don't understand where people are coming from in saying that s3 was boring, especially if one was a reader of the book beforehand. The *books* are exhausting slogs at times and are rife with political talk that goes in one ear and out the other for me.
I'm excited for Yennefer's more proactive role in the plot instead of just. Barely being there like she was in the last few books. I'm excited to get to see Freya's acting chops be tested by the Rats storyline, and how that's going to be adapted. The thing I'm mainly most afraid of is if we'll actually get Anna Henrietta. If we don't get her in the show to pamper Jaskier like a prized pomeranian, I'll riot.
As for Henry: I'm in the camp of good riddance. I'll leave it at that and not get too into it, because my opinion on him ultimately doesn't matter.
Basically, I think if you stop you'll be missing a lot of good characters (Regis, Anna Henrietta) and the dynamics that form. Of course, I don't know exactly what's going to happen. Maybe they'll fuck it up and I'll eat my words, but I still genuinely don't think this is a bad show. I've watched far worse stuff, I'm enthused to watch it, it makes me happy. I'm really not that difficult to please, but when I'm not enjoying myself, I will not deal with it for long.
But, if it's not for you. It's not for you. That's fine. No shame in it. I'm just disappointed when people can't accept a show just isn't for them and can do nothing but bitch and moan about it. Imagine having the energy to whine about things you don't like and bring down the people who do like it. (That last bit wasn't focused at you btw! Just a very mild form of ranting about the more negative folk on this subreddit and twitter lmao)
So, you just spent a lot of energy bitching and moaning about people who spend a lot of energy bitching and moaning. You do realize Anna Henrietta only appears in the DLC of the games? I very much doubt they have rights to characters that do not appear in the books. Also, even in the games, please tell us more about the dynamics between Anna Henrietta and a deceased character.
Anna Henrietta is a character in the books, my guy lmaoooooo
What are you even on about, the dynamics between her and a deceased character?? You mean Regis? I meant they themselves are interesting characters by themselves. The dynamic with her I wanna see is with her and Jaskier. Learn to read, boyo.
well, I love the witcher universe and anything related to it will always bring me excitement, however whenever i watch another season it brings me more disappointment. The 1st season was more or less ok (atleast the 1st episode cos of Renfri). But since then I only watch it cos I'm drawn to anything about The Witcher universe
It’s a lose lose, people complained the earlier seasons swayed too much from the books, and so when they followed the books much more accurately in season 3 everyone says the season felt it had writing and pacing issues compared to the other seasons.
It’s obvious Lauren catered to the fan complains for season 3 to follow much more closely to the book at the detriment of the show, not all book storylines/scenes translate to TV the same, good example being S3E7 the worst rated episode which followed the books very closely of Ciri wandering around the dessert. The fans are the shows own worst enemy imo and the main reason people don’t like season 3.
It's funny so many people hated it, because I loved S3E7. But I also loved that part in the books and the episode used some tropes that I've always enjoyed. If nothing else, the show has something for everyone... even if it isn't always consistent with it haha
I haven't watched Season 3 and don't think I'll ever will honestly, but from what you say I think the problem is not that they followed the book down to the detail last season, its the inconsistent pacing and lack of commitment.
It all starts at Season 1, you show a sort of strong commitment to capture the books, but then in Season 2 you go off the rails and decide to not commit at all with them except for a few things, which ends in absolute disaster. Then Season 3 comes around and you try to commit again to the books, but the damage is already done, Season 2 changed the formula and now you're trying to commit to another formula that was not supported in the previous season, and the formula you're trying to follow now is missing key elements, rhythm and tone that should have been built across the seasons, not betrayed at each turn.
When Season 2 came around I realized the direction Netflix was taking the show was simply not for me and moved on, my expectations were not being met and I couldn't enjoy what I received instead, so I decided to leave the show and it's community, I just came back to read a little on people's POVs regarding these news, but honestly I don't really think the problems with the last episodes are that they're following the books, more like they're trying to mix things up again but it's incompatible with both the formula of the show and the fans they captured with the original seasons.
Why is this thoughtful, neutral analysis being downvoted? This is exactly what happened. Whether you like the changes or not, the problem is inconsistency. That is a neutral observation and if you do not catch this obvious inconsistency, no point in discussing.
Honestly I always know when a comment I make is going to be downvoted and this was one of them lol, but still I think it's valuable that people, even blinded as they are now, read it and hopefully come around later down the line after analyzing more media and remember a random comment some random idiot said in a TV series community he liked and reflect on it.
I'm excited. That table read video made me realise how much I miss the cast. Nice to see Freya, Anya and Joey again. I loved Henry as Geralt, but I'm ready to see Liam's performance. I liked him in The Hunger Games and I hope he'll be fine. I'm also hyped for the new characters. I'm already in love with Bonhart's actor, the rest seems to be good as well.
Absolutely, I love The Witcher to death and I've really enjoyed the show except for Season 2 (but it still wasn't the worst thing on the planet I could rewatch it).
Whether or not you believe the allegations and rumors that keep coming out about Cavill being a huge problem on set and forcing the script to be altered in a negative way the series is moving on and will end with S5 as there is nothing more to adapt after that (makes me sad because what do I do after that???) and Cavill was never the standout role at least to me so it's not a big loss for me.
Liam seems to have a ton of chemistry with the cast and everyone overall seems excited to get to filming so as a hardcore Witcher fan I am very excited to see the product of their hard work. Always looking forward to more Witcher content!
So who were the standout roles? And you really think seeing two minutes of chatting in a read-through is evidence of on-screen chemistry? How was it worse in the read-throughs with Cavill? You really think they would put out footage where they pout?
Well for me the standout roles were Anya and Freya as Yennefer and Ciri. I guess it also helps that I prefer Yennefer and Ciri as characters much more than I do Geralt and I guess Cavill's interpretation of him not really feeling like the Geralt I know and love didn't help that much.
No one can speak about on screen chemistry yet as we don't even have a trailer yet but yes the cast does seem to have an overall happier and more friendly vibe in both the table read and their social media/interviews that simply wasn't really there when Cavill was the lead and they all seem to love Liam so like I said I'm excited to see what they're cooking up.
I followed every piece of info about the show ever since the first rumours from 2017. I really wanted the show to be good, so I could show this beautiful world I was obsessed with to all my friends and family.
Season 2 and Blood Origin and the subsequent hate from every corner of the internet left me sad and devastated. Season 3 returned on the correct path but the damage done in season 2 and Blood Origin completely nullifies all the effort. There are some great moments in season 3 (easter eggs, character banter, book and game refferences), brief glimpses of an amazing show that could've been.
I'm no longer excited for this show but I will watch it till the end anyways. Something ends, something begins.
Despite its flaws I'm quite excited. The casting seems really good. I'm really looking forward to Sharlto Copley as Bonhart and Laurence Fishburne as Regis. An odd casting for Regis, but I think Laurence will fit this role really well. I also really liked the short appearance of Maria Barring aka Milva at the end of season 3. Immediately upon seeing her, I thought "yep that's Milva, alright."
Liam is a wait and see bc I don't think anyone could do a better job than Henry, but from BTS stuff it seems he has good chemistry with the cast.
As a long time witcher fan it does pain me the direction they've taken the story and what we could've had, but as a fantasy show I do enjoy it quite a bit and I think that the cast is amazing from every charcter we've seen so far. I've come to just see it as a fantasy show opposed to a witcher show, which helps my enjoyment a lot, but I can see why many fans of the IP don't like it and wouldn't continue watching.
I don't know, man. I'm one of the few book readers who actually liked Season 3. I think Geralt vs Vilgefortz was so good. Generally, I liked S3 and would give it an 8/10, I have no MAJOR complaints about it, apart for some weird shit like gay Radovid/Jaskier ( wtf is up with that ) and BDSM Dijkstra.
But after Henry leaving and then casting Lawrence Fishburne/Morpheus as my favorite character, Regis, who I invisioned as an older, white, graying man ( Jeremy Irons was my fancast ) I'm quite... bummed. I'll watch S4 and S5 but I'm no longer excited for them.
I think for me it’s a love/hate thing. I am excited but I hate myself for being excited. I know that doesn’t make sense. I just have been so grr with how things have played out and it’s like part of me wants it to vanish off the face of the earth and the other part is constantly looking everyday for some new news. Make it make sense… I guess I just love the Witcher that much that it could be anything Witcher related and I have to check it out. I see people comment to others if you don’t like the series don’t watch it (which makes sense) but for me I can’t seem to help myself. I just keep coming back for more. I even still will go back and just watch pieces of seasons 1-3. I just don’t understand why If I despise it (maybe not all of it) that I can’t just let it go. I do actually feel excited but I don’t understand why, it’s a weird juxtaposition of emotions. I’ve never had this happen with anything else.
i love the witcher world but the netflix show has been dogshit. subpar at best. but i am a bored dude and so when season 4 comes along and if the trailer peaks a sliver of interest then i might as well give the first episode a try. i share a netflix account with the family so it's not like i pay a subscription just to watch it.
season 1 i could rewatch a few times as long as i skipped the non Geralt scenes. s2 i could not do that and s3 i don't even remember except that one fight with Geralt and vilgefortz.
the only reason i would give it a chance honestly is if Liam actually pulls it off and makes a cool geralt.
I for one did not find Geralt to really work as he is too massive and jockish
I knew perhaps 30 people first hand IRL that watched and was excited about season 1 of this show. No one is still watching lol. This show is so dead i cant help but wonder why Netflix is even bothering with the last 2 seasons tbh, i cant imagine it will bring in new or keep many existing subscribers, seems like a waste of money.
I'm still excited because I'm honestly only watching, and have been for a while now, for Jaskier. Joey Batey is hilarious and his voice is amazing. His band, The Amazing Devil, is also working on new music.
Tbh cavill was great as geralt but he didn't really do that much. It was just a poker face or slightly annoyed expression and constant grunting with him. It's not something Liam can't do. I would've been able to watch it regardless of geralt's actor if the writing was tolerable.
Lmao Cavill nailed the role. Crazy bad take. He is usually cast in this kind of stoic "just look cool" roles, which failed for him as Superman because people expect a bit more from their superheroes now. But for Geralt, he fits the character perfectly.
The writing on the show has never been good but it has fallen off incredibly now.
I'm actually pleasantly surprised at how many positive responses this got.
I personally am just going to watch because I read, watch, and play everything Witcher related. I'm going in with 0 expectations and excitement but so far still ended up disappointed.
My wife has 0 knowledge of any other Witcher content besides the show but has since given up on it after the first couple of episodes of S3. I think in her case, it was Blood Origin that robbed her of any passion for the show.
Im going to watch it all to the end nonetheless.
I’m still interested to see what the show runners will do for the next two seasons regardless of the actor playing Geralt.
Season three at least was much much closer to the novels so I’m hoping that’s the direction that they’ll continue to go in! The next few books are obviously going to be condensed for the show because of how much dialogue they carry - if they take the key components of the novels though and keep the storyline for these next two seasons I think it’ll be great!
Ciri and Yennifer carry the remainder of the books anyway tbh so I can’t imagine that we’ll be seeing as much of Geralt as we’ll see of them.
Really excited to see Freya Allen continue Ciri’s story - she’s such a fantastic actress and Ciri as a character has so much to go through and grow it’ll be good!
Always excited for anything Witcher disappointing or whatever. An admirer of the saga and the games long before any particular actor's involvement. Both zebrowski and cavill did well in portraying Geralt. But they are just actors playing a character. Although in a continuous tale actor change is not anything good but if the transition is satisfactory then ok. But I am a little disappointed by the writers' ability to tell a good, coherent, interesting story. It should have been better
Gave up on it at the end of season 2 when they ruined yen’s character, I had no hope left after that, RIP you had so much potential
I'm excited. I have very low expectations with virtually every game-to-TV show adaptation, so I've been totally fine with what The Witcher show tries to do. I think they've done a good job, if you view the show in isolation, away from the games/books. I also watch with my wife, who has no background knowledge of The Witcher, and she's really enjoying it, so we are totally fine with the show.
Yeah I'm excited. I thought season 3 was incredibly fun. Binged it in one go. Then came back to visit it a couple more times. I particularly liked the design of Thanedd as well as the Nilfgaardian capital with its evocation of Rome. Because I really enjoyed season 3, I'm looking forward to season 4. They've cast some super interesting folks and great actors for some of the upcoming roles too. Ultimately though it's a show. I like what it gives me so I look forward to it's next installation because I've enjoyed the story so far. In the meantime I'll watch other stuff that I like or dislike. I don't dwell much on it once the initial excitement of watching it and engaging deeply with it passes.
Willing to give Liam a chance for a few episodes. Very concerned if the chemistry with Yennefer or the care and concern for Ciri will be as good as Cavill pulled off though ☹️
I wouldn't say Cavill had particularly good chemistry with Chalotra, so I'm hopeful Hemsworth can match it on that front. I'm more concerned about the steadily decreasing quality of the writing. Season 3 was an absolute slog.
In the reading room video it looks like Liam has great chemistry with both Aya and Joey. Although in the books Geralt only meets Yennefer and Ciri again almost at the very end. So if there are Geralt/Yennefer/Ciri scenes in S4, they are all Netflix invention.
Thats been telegraphed way ahead of time. Before S1 dropped they said they were making more room for the female leads, and cavill even supported that at the time.
Yes, and I'm looking forward to that, would have been a pity if they had kept Yen as a jade figurine for months and then a prisoner for most of the rest of the story. But that does not mean that the trio will have any scenes together, except at the end. So, Liam's chemistry with Jaskier and the Hansa might be more important than with Yen and Ciri. But no matter what, I think he'll be a good Geralt and am very much looking forward to the next two seasons. Btw, you wouldn't by any chance have a link to where Cavill supports the idea of having more room for the female leads? I guess his die-hard fans who always complain that he's hardly in the show and that it's become a Ciri/Yennefer show only have not heard about that (or chosen not to hear it).
I liked season 3 a lot more than season 2, so my hype is pretty much restored. But the thing that really gets me excited is all the new directors coming in for season 4. That's been my beef with the show since season 2. How'd we go from HBO-tier directors to BBC directors? (Note: I'm sure it had to do with moving production to the UK and Covid lockdown constraints on local hires but it was so offensive to my palate that I still have to complain, apologies) I hope having HBO-tier directors back next season really shows in the look and feel of the show. That's my hope and why I'm back on the hype train. Plus, I really like the look of Liam with the cast. The table read video was adorable. Geralt and Yennefer are everything to me.
this got me so so excited too! knowing that we got directors from shows such as The Terror, For All Mankind, and The Great has me so hyped and like you said Liam looked really great along the cast during the table read, it looks like their chemistry is gonna be amazing!
So, the writing is all good to you, it is the directors? I wonder if you understand the role directors play.
If you can't discern between different directors, that's cool. But it impacts my enjoyment, and I'm really glad to see directors like Alex Garcia Lopez back. Tricia Brock is another one I'm excited for because, being familiar with her work, she has a wonderful ability to leave her stamp as director even when working within someone else's sandbox. Halt and Catch Fire's "Who Needs a Guy" is an episode I've closely analyzed. She has great instincts, brings out the best in actors, and her episodes look beautiful. As for the writing, my comment made clear that I found season 3 to be an improvement overall. The writers room, save for a few people coming and going each season, hasn't changed much. Meanwhile, directors are more transient. I'm glad to see evidence of better judgment in terms of those hires heading into season 4. It certainly increases my excitement.
So far I've liked the show a lot. I'm excited for what comes next but I am apprehensive/scared of the casting change. Not because I don't think Liam will do well, just because of the sudden change. It might take a rewatch to get over it. If Liam was cast from season 1 he would probably do a fine job and there wouldn't be an issue. It's just the casting change. And man how unlucky, it's not even a side character but the main main character.
So far I have enjoyed the show...so I am pretty excited for the new seasons.
I don't even plan on watching it. Season 1 had a couple good episodes, 2 was bad but I seem to recall a few good moments. 3 just made me feel nothing. I'm sure my wife will watch season 4 and I might catch a few episodes but I have zero expectations for it, hopefully it's good and if so I'll be happy to watch it. I'm pleasantly surprised by the optimistic responses here. Glad it had a fan base but the show doesn't speak to me like the books or games did.
I gave up halfway through the third season; the relationships in the show, which are at the core of the narrative to me, have been so rushed as to be entirely unbelievable, so there's just nothing in it to compel me at this point.
And they were not even rushed, they were all over the place kind of rushed.
Your post just reminded me to leave this group lolol thanks homie
I'm very excited to see the Hansa come together and the worst villain come to life, Leo Bonhart. They cast a great actor for that role, also for Regis (although he does not look at all like I imagined him, but I don't mind as long as he transports the humour and idiosyncrasies of the character) and I even got curious about the Rats in S3. I have a very good feeling about S4 and am definitely looking very much forward to it!
Spoiler alert Season 3 actually followed the books, especially with Geralt almost dying in a fight against Vilgefortz, and the Thanned massacre Tissaia orchestrated with her blunder, together with Cirilla getting lost in a desert.
Just following the books and following them well are two different things. The Thanedd coup was way better in the books, mostly because the sorcerers could do something a bit more enjoyable than creating some ball of light and a fight in a rather small room that's supposed to contain that many nilfgaardian soldiers. Plus the similarities end about there. Yen prioritizing some lodge over ciri, and doing what Philippa is supposed to be doing is insane.
Exactly, and the almost complete lack of Geralt fights monsters is totally book accurate, too, Netflix even added the flesh monster and the one in the labyrinth.
This Literally this That's what the naysayers wanted, right? Book accuracy. So we got it... and they're still complaining lol which proves that they just enjoy complaining lol I'm in it till the end cause I'm a witcher fan not a cavil fan.
Nobody has an issue with that. What people complain about is: *Voleth Meir. *Obelisks cause the planes to merge and enable travel between them. *Yennefer was willing to hurt Ciri to get what she wanted. *Vesemir wanted to re-start the school and was willing to hurt or kill Ciri to do it. *Eskel was a drunken imbecile who bought whores to Kaer Morhen. *Vesemir did not give a single shit about Eskel defiling Kaer Morhen so. All of those are massively against book characterisation.
>All of those are massively against book characterisation. Eh. No. Disagree if you really want to, but the book gives almost no explanation to anything... lol it ends WITHOUT a conclusion to the wild hunt arc for christ sake. What the show is doing is filling in very obvious plot holes with new storylines. If ciri is the one that can travel between worlds, how come eredin can do it also? No explanation, so the show came up with one. Eskel being a jerk and dying... eh... was more than he did in the books, he and the other witchers were barely in them. Unlike the games, which is where you like him from, don't deny it. Vesemir wanting to restart the school... where does it say in the books that he absolutely would not do that? You're nitpicking. The game did the exact same thing the show is doing, adding and changing things... the difference is you are used to the nonsense from the games, and the show is presenting a different nonsense that you dislike, simple as that.
Eredin can travel between realms through psychic projection (this is why the Hunt appear as wraiths) and to a limited degree via Navigators who are attuned enough to the way Conjunctions work to take advantage of when the various Spheres align to travel. That means they can only got to specific, limited places at certain times. Unicorns and Sources can go anywhere they want whenever they want. All this is explained in *Lady of the Lake.* Show Eredin is completely different to book Eredin; he's weedy where he should be massive, he doesn't have a stellar empire to re-conquer because the Aen Undod don't exist, he doesn't despise humans and find them fit only for slavery because he doesn't know they exist, the Dearg Ruardri aren't an elite terror cavalry/slave-snatching service, and he doesn't know anything about the Haen Ichor because that comes up after his stranding. The books show Vesemir not wanting to start the schools back up after the peasantry stormed Kaer Morhen. He finds the way it tortured boys distasteful. Book Vesemir would not subject Ciri to potentially fatal experimentation to start again in any case. The closest he gets in non-canon media aside from the show is when he brings Triss in to see the mutagens during the first game's prologue, and even then it's a half-hearted attempt because he knows Leo is too old. Eskel gets very little page time, but in what he does get he's shown as courteous and gentlemanly, not a whoremonger and drunkard. He treats Ciri and Triss well and rips his brother Wolves a new one for their lack of manners towards them. On top of that, Kaer Morhen is basically sacred ground for Vesemir. He forbids trespassers and keeps the secrets of accessing it fiercely. Only Witchers he trusts absolutely are welcome there, and the invitation only extends as long as he considers someone worthy. This gets thrown in Geralt's face in *Season of Storms* by Brehen when he complains about never having a safe place to go. Ironic indeed when in the books the Cats were the ones who whipped up the peasents to attack Kaer Morhen in revenge for the Wolves all but annihilitaing their School in a fight the Cats started. The show character assassinates Vesemir and the Wolves in *Nightmare of the Wolf* by having them producing monsters to terrorise the peasantry. Triss is the only non-Witcher we know who was trusted to go there in the books, though presumably Yen has been as well over the years. Even if for some ungodly reason Vesemir had tolerated outsiders to befoul the living graves of his brothers, anyone who goes to Kaer Morhen at that time of year is isolated from the nearest towns by over a week through passes that are sealed by snow. This is what people mean when they complain about the departures from the books. There was one element I did like from the show; book Emhyr is exactly the sort to slaughter an unborn child to set someone on the path of vengeance, even if Francesca leading the Scoia'tel is nonsensical.
Not reading all that but best of luck with your fanfiction
First you label the voice of reason as "coming from the games" which is I guess a trick you learned from the showrunners, to explain away any criticism of the incoherence and abuse of basic themes and characterizations. And when you are shown all the points making it clear you yourself have not read the books (or played the games) and lack logic, you retort like a five-year old. What does it take for you to be ashamed of yourself?
On one hand, Eskel does get fleshed out a lot by the games, especially Wild Hunt. On the other hand, he's a well-mannered bro in the little we see from the books and they were clearly hoping for the shock factor in the show based on the positive regard people had for him from the games.
Keep up the good work
No. You cant go for a few seasons against the source material, than forcibly hit some plot points and act as if you are book accurate. That's like having Frodo and Sam go through Disneyland but at the end they end up at Ithilien, meet Faramir and say "see? We do follow book, ee met Faramir". Like.. no, you dont. You just happened to cross path with a book, but your story cant progress same when Aragorn is at Rivendell, Gimli id an Army leader and Eowyn is leading charge at Saruman. Who falls because they destroy a dam. "See? Saruman got flooded, ee follow books." It doesnt work like that. When you change the entire foundation and characterization. It is toomlate and too little to randomly hit some plot points, with different context and different characterization. Like.. how even can Ciri skate fight Rience when he is already dead in the show?
This is a very good analogy. And exactly what is wrong with the show. Peter Jackson slaughtered characters and did not understand many of the core themes or plot points in the LotR movies, at a level comparable to S1 of the Witcher, but he did that increasingly towards the end so it does not wholly spoil things. Witcher went off the rails after S2E1 for much less motivation. PJ at least followed the rule of the cool, the Witcher incoherence is inexplicable.
similarly as Game of Thrones. They laid out a strong foundation and then started deviating. But due to the foundation being strong, their deviating took a while to be noticably wonky (unless you were a core fan who read the books etc, im sure cracks could be visible sooner). But with Witcher show, when you right of the gate start with Season 7-8 level of butchery, how do you expect to course correct from there? Like.. you flushed it. There's no way fixing it, you can just make that turd look shinier, but it will be forever held back by that cracked foundation. Like Hunger Games did. First movie did many questionable changes and choice, and then, when second movie came, it tried to stick with the book as much as it could, but it had to juggle weird movie 1 decisions. And while the movie is still best out of the trilogy, it still couldnt achieve what it wanted to achieve, due to how first movie handled various things. Catching Fire could approximate, could go 1:1, but still was forced to deviate at times. As you say.. you can start deviating towards the end, cause momentum of great beginning is carrying it. As Herbert in Dune says.. "beginnings are the most delicate". You mess up this and ciao & ahoy. Have Frodo send Sam back is awful change, but makes more sense towards the end, with ring ahving full control and Gollum whispering into his ear. But have Frodo start right away as annoying brat, well good luck making us believe that Sam even wanna stick with him.
Ok, let me know if anything changes
It is too late for changes to course correct. Story is off the rails now. Best course they can do is just commit to their fan fiction 100% and dont look back.
They did not mean that. It was a playground retort. They do not know the books.
Ok keep us posted
No, the show is a dumpster fire.
I never finished season 3. I couldn’t get through it unfortunately.
very, cannot wait to watch it burn to the fuckin ground
Seriously disappointed in the Witcher, Tolkien based medias, and GRRM’s constant sidetracking
I actually don't get a lot of the S3 criticisms. Has anyone got an ELI5 for me? I enjoyed it. I am keen for S4, because I dont think you can survive as a netflix series with a big change in leading man unless literally everyone on the project is 100% keen for it. From what I understand literally everyone remaining is super invested and thats always a good indicator.
Well, they wouldn't communicate to the outside world that they're not feeling their multi-million dollar project anymore. Season 3 had the worst acting, it was the most tedious and the scenario-writing was awful. It became unbearable around the midway point. You can actually see the imdb-ratings collapsing around that point as well
No but the "not feeling it" would translate to a series cancellation. I would imagine they lobbied netflix hard to keep going. Thats energy, passion, something. I mean the acting has been super wooden, especially from geralt, since day 1. But the back half of that series had a lot of good Ciri and Jaskier content.
Yeah but with Geralt the acting is kind of intentional. Although Cavill is kind of like that. And no, the series has been a hit for Netflix to the point of it being valid for continuation.
Yeah and i expect theres an element of sunk costs too. Thats likely why there have been so many spinoffs considered. Just to grab more money out of the investment.
Yeah the spinoffs were disasters and the next season is going to have a dramatic drop in viewership. Netflix really wanted this to compete with the GOT-prequel and the Rings of Power, building a cinematic universe around the property. There is a chance that season 5 will simply be cancelled if viewership declines too harshly.
Depends. Yeah the spinoffs had some very dumb decisions (i liked the dorf) but Rings of Power isnt doing amazingly either (i liked the dorfs). I dont think they will cancel s5 now it has been greenlit unless it tanks super hard. I cant imagine that negative reviews enter into netflixes consideration too strongly as they persisted with snyders second rebel moon film. Probably witcher is something that, despite a lot of loud noise, will get a lot of people watching who have no idea about the drama. It will just show as a suggestion for hordes of zombies to continue watching.
The answer is nooopee lots of disappointments from season 1 :(
My partner and I also lost our excitement through S3. It was a noticeable downgrade from what was already an uneven show. We may try and come back to it just to see, but we don’t talk about amongst ourselves anymore and there’s not going to be much rush to get to it when it does finally come out.
Same here, dropped in the middle of S3 because even allowing for deviations and inconsistency, it was just suddenly extremely generic in execution, dialogue and had no energy.
I'm still looking forward to it. Aside from season 1 which I enjoyed on first watch, I tend to enjoy the show more on a rewatch once I see the direction they've gone in compared to the books. As a standalone the show does fine and I'm enjoying it as it's own little alternate universe version of Witcher. (Also, I'm excited to see what Liam brings! I liked Henry fine, but his chemistry with Anya was hit or miss for me. As someone who loves the Yennefer-Geralt subplot in all versions of Witcher, I'm looking forward to seeing how this works with Liam) I know it's something that gets ridiculed a lot on reddit, but... I like the show. It's not what I expected it to be when it was announced but I've found it to be a fun and entertaining adventure which isn't something a lot of Fantasy shows try to be since GOT. Plus, the cast is fantastic.
GoT a fun and entertaining adventure? With all the cynicism, rape, incest and backstabbing? I got lost here.
GOT really kicked off the trend of NOT having a fantasy show be a fun, entertaining adventure and instead be more dark and serious.
I'm incredibly optimistic over the last two seasons. I genuinely enjoyed the majority of season 3. Had my own issues like anyone (which I could rant about on my own time), but I am usually very happy to watch the show. I don't understand where people are coming from in saying that s3 was boring, especially if one was a reader of the book beforehand. The *books* are exhausting slogs at times and are rife with political talk that goes in one ear and out the other for me. I'm excited for Yennefer's more proactive role in the plot instead of just. Barely being there like she was in the last few books. I'm excited to get to see Freya's acting chops be tested by the Rats storyline, and how that's going to be adapted. The thing I'm mainly most afraid of is if we'll actually get Anna Henrietta. If we don't get her in the show to pamper Jaskier like a prized pomeranian, I'll riot. As for Henry: I'm in the camp of good riddance. I'll leave it at that and not get too into it, because my opinion on him ultimately doesn't matter. Basically, I think if you stop you'll be missing a lot of good characters (Regis, Anna Henrietta) and the dynamics that form. Of course, I don't know exactly what's going to happen. Maybe they'll fuck it up and I'll eat my words, but I still genuinely don't think this is a bad show. I've watched far worse stuff, I'm enthused to watch it, it makes me happy. I'm really not that difficult to please, but when I'm not enjoying myself, I will not deal with it for long. But, if it's not for you. It's not for you. That's fine. No shame in it. I'm just disappointed when people can't accept a show just isn't for them and can do nothing but bitch and moan about it. Imagine having the energy to whine about things you don't like and bring down the people who do like it. (That last bit wasn't focused at you btw! Just a very mild form of ranting about the more negative folk on this subreddit and twitter lmao)
So, you just spent a lot of energy bitching and moaning about people who spend a lot of energy bitching and moaning. You do realize Anna Henrietta only appears in the DLC of the games? I very much doubt they have rights to characters that do not appear in the books. Also, even in the games, please tell us more about the dynamics between Anna Henrietta and a deceased character.
Anna Henrietta is a character in the books, my guy lmaoooooo What are you even on about, the dynamics between her and a deceased character?? You mean Regis? I meant they themselves are interesting characters by themselves. The dynamic with her I wanna see is with her and Jaskier. Learn to read, boyo.
well, I love the witcher universe and anything related to it will always bring me excitement, however whenever i watch another season it brings me more disappointment. The 1st season was more or less ok (atleast the 1st episode cos of Renfri). But since then I only watch it cos I'm drawn to anything about The Witcher universe
It’s a lose lose, people complained the earlier seasons swayed too much from the books, and so when they followed the books much more accurately in season 3 everyone says the season felt it had writing and pacing issues compared to the other seasons. It’s obvious Lauren catered to the fan complains for season 3 to follow much more closely to the book at the detriment of the show, not all book storylines/scenes translate to TV the same, good example being S3E7 the worst rated episode which followed the books very closely of Ciri wandering around the dessert. The fans are the shows own worst enemy imo and the main reason people don’t like season 3.
It's funny so many people hated it, because I loved S3E7. But I also loved that part in the books and the episode used some tropes that I've always enjoyed. If nothing else, the show has something for everyone... even if it isn't always consistent with it haha
I haven't watched Season 3 and don't think I'll ever will honestly, but from what you say I think the problem is not that they followed the book down to the detail last season, its the inconsistent pacing and lack of commitment. It all starts at Season 1, you show a sort of strong commitment to capture the books, but then in Season 2 you go off the rails and decide to not commit at all with them except for a few things, which ends in absolute disaster. Then Season 3 comes around and you try to commit again to the books, but the damage is already done, Season 2 changed the formula and now you're trying to commit to another formula that was not supported in the previous season, and the formula you're trying to follow now is missing key elements, rhythm and tone that should have been built across the seasons, not betrayed at each turn. When Season 2 came around I realized the direction Netflix was taking the show was simply not for me and moved on, my expectations were not being met and I couldn't enjoy what I received instead, so I decided to leave the show and it's community, I just came back to read a little on people's POVs regarding these news, but honestly I don't really think the problems with the last episodes are that they're following the books, more like they're trying to mix things up again but it's incompatible with both the formula of the show and the fans they captured with the original seasons.
Why is this thoughtful, neutral analysis being downvoted? This is exactly what happened. Whether you like the changes or not, the problem is inconsistency. That is a neutral observation and if you do not catch this obvious inconsistency, no point in discussing.
Honestly I always know when a comment I make is going to be downvoted and this was one of them lol, but still I think it's valuable that people, even blinded as they are now, read it and hopefully come around later down the line after analyzing more media and remember a random comment some random idiot said in a TV series community he liked and reflect on it.
I'm excited. That table read video made me realise how much I miss the cast. Nice to see Freya, Anya and Joey again. I loved Henry as Geralt, but I'm ready to see Liam's performance. I liked him in The Hunger Games and I hope he'll be fine. I'm also hyped for the new characters. I'm already in love with Bonhart's actor, the rest seems to be good as well.
Absolutely, I love The Witcher to death and I've really enjoyed the show except for Season 2 (but it still wasn't the worst thing on the planet I could rewatch it). Whether or not you believe the allegations and rumors that keep coming out about Cavill being a huge problem on set and forcing the script to be altered in a negative way the series is moving on and will end with S5 as there is nothing more to adapt after that (makes me sad because what do I do after that???) and Cavill was never the standout role at least to me so it's not a big loss for me. Liam seems to have a ton of chemistry with the cast and everyone overall seems excited to get to filming so as a hardcore Witcher fan I am very excited to see the product of their hard work. Always looking forward to more Witcher content!
So who were the standout roles? And you really think seeing two minutes of chatting in a read-through is evidence of on-screen chemistry? How was it worse in the read-throughs with Cavill? You really think they would put out footage where they pout?
Well for me the standout roles were Anya and Freya as Yennefer and Ciri. I guess it also helps that I prefer Yennefer and Ciri as characters much more than I do Geralt and I guess Cavill's interpretation of him not really feeling like the Geralt I know and love didn't help that much. No one can speak about on screen chemistry yet as we don't even have a trailer yet but yes the cast does seem to have an overall happier and more friendly vibe in both the table read and their social media/interviews that simply wasn't really there when Cavill was the lead and they all seem to love Liam so like I said I'm excited to see what they're cooking up.
I kind of am because I think the actor change is exciting on a multiversal level.
You do understand they are actors?
I didn’t finish season 3 and don’t really have plans to soooo probably a nay for me
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I followed every piece of info about the show ever since the first rumours from 2017. I really wanted the show to be good, so I could show this beautiful world I was obsessed with to all my friends and family. Season 2 and Blood Origin and the subsequent hate from every corner of the internet left me sad and devastated. Season 3 returned on the correct path but the damage done in season 2 and Blood Origin completely nullifies all the effort. There are some great moments in season 3 (easter eggs, character banter, book and game refferences), brief glimpses of an amazing show that could've been. I'm no longer excited for this show but I will watch it till the end anyways. Something ends, something begins.
I am, i like fantasy and i enjoy the world of The Witcher.
Despite its flaws I'm quite excited. The casting seems really good. I'm really looking forward to Sharlto Copley as Bonhart and Laurence Fishburne as Regis. An odd casting for Regis, but I think Laurence will fit this role really well. I also really liked the short appearance of Maria Barring aka Milva at the end of season 3. Immediately upon seeing her, I thought "yep that's Milva, alright." Liam is a wait and see bc I don't think anyone could do a better job than Henry, but from BTS stuff it seems he has good chemistry with the cast. As a long time witcher fan it does pain me the direction they've taken the story and what we could've had, but as a fantasy show I do enjoy it quite a bit and I think that the cast is amazing from every charcter we've seen so far. I've come to just see it as a fantasy show opposed to a witcher show, which helps my enjoyment a lot, but I can see why many fans of the IP don't like it and wouldn't continue watching.
I don't know, man. I'm one of the few book readers who actually liked Season 3. I think Geralt vs Vilgefortz was so good. Generally, I liked S3 and would give it an 8/10, I have no MAJOR complaints about it, apart for some weird shit like gay Radovid/Jaskier ( wtf is up with that ) and BDSM Dijkstra. But after Henry leaving and then casting Lawrence Fishburne/Morpheus as my favorite character, Regis, who I invisioned as an older, white, graying man ( Jeremy Irons was my fancast ) I'm quite... bummed. I'll watch S4 and S5 but I'm no longer excited for them.
I think for me it’s a love/hate thing. I am excited but I hate myself for being excited. I know that doesn’t make sense. I just have been so grr with how things have played out and it’s like part of me wants it to vanish off the face of the earth and the other part is constantly looking everyday for some new news. Make it make sense… I guess I just love the Witcher that much that it could be anything Witcher related and I have to check it out. I see people comment to others if you don’t like the series don’t watch it (which makes sense) but for me I can’t seem to help myself. I just keep coming back for more. I even still will go back and just watch pieces of seasons 1-3. I just don’t understand why If I despise it (maybe not all of it) that I can’t just let it go. I do actually feel excited but I don’t understand why, it’s a weird juxtaposition of emotions. I’ve never had this happen with anything else.
i love the witcher world but the netflix show has been dogshit. subpar at best. but i am a bored dude and so when season 4 comes along and if the trailer peaks a sliver of interest then i might as well give the first episode a try. i share a netflix account with the family so it's not like i pay a subscription just to watch it. season 1 i could rewatch a few times as long as i skipped the non Geralt scenes. s2 i could not do that and s3 i don't even remember except that one fight with Geralt and vilgefortz. the only reason i would give it a chance honestly is if Liam actually pulls it off and makes a cool geralt. I for one did not find Geralt to really work as he is too massive and jockish
I knew perhaps 30 people first hand IRL that watched and was excited about season 1 of this show. No one is still watching lol. This show is so dead i cant help but wonder why Netflix is even bothering with the last 2 seasons tbh, i cant imagine it will bring in new or keep many existing subscribers, seems like a waste of money.
I'm still excited because I'm honestly only watching, and have been for a while now, for Jaskier. Joey Batey is hilarious and his voice is amazing. His band, The Amazing Devil, is also working on new music.
Do you feel his character is consistent?
Tbh cavill was great as geralt but he didn't really do that much. It was just a poker face or slightly annoyed expression and constant grunting with him. It's not something Liam can't do. I would've been able to watch it regardless of geralt's actor if the writing was tolerable.
Lmao Cavill nailed the role. Crazy bad take. He is usually cast in this kind of stoic "just look cool" roles, which failed for him as Superman because people expect a bit more from their superheroes now. But for Geralt, he fits the character perfectly. The writing on the show has never been good but it has fallen off incredibly now.
No, I **am** a hater and a negative nancy.
I'm actually pleasantly surprised at how many positive responses this got. I personally am just going to watch because I read, watch, and play everything Witcher related. I'm going in with 0 expectations and excitement but so far still ended up disappointed. My wife has 0 knowledge of any other Witcher content besides the show but has since given up on it after the first couple of episodes of S3. I think in her case, it was Blood Origin that robbed her of any passion for the show. Im going to watch it all to the end nonetheless.
I’m gonna give it a chance. Low expectations so hopefully it knocks it out of the park. Worst case, I don’t love it. Best case it’s amazing.
I’m still interested to see what the show runners will do for the next two seasons regardless of the actor playing Geralt. Season three at least was much much closer to the novels so I’m hoping that’s the direction that they’ll continue to go in! The next few books are obviously going to be condensed for the show because of how much dialogue they carry - if they take the key components of the novels though and keep the storyline for these next two seasons I think it’ll be great! Ciri and Yennifer carry the remainder of the books anyway tbh so I can’t imagine that we’ll be seeing as much of Geralt as we’ll see of them. Really excited to see Freya Allen continue Ciri’s story - she’s such a fantastic actress and Ciri as a character has so much to go through and grow it’ll be good!