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Last-Leader4475

Vercel team pricing is a joke you get a free slot for billing members. I use DigitalOcean and AWS but both are not so easy to use if you know how you never go back to Vercel


itipiso

Check out coolify. You install it on a vps and get vercel-like features


Simple_Law2628

Will look into coolify!


zxyzyxz

Coolify on Hetzner is the most cost effective solution, Hetzner servers for the same prices are more powerful (more CPU cores, higher RAM) than others like DigitalOcean.


antoine-ross

Is there anyone who benchmarked the differences in pricing/server power/features? Would love to read through something like that.


engage_intellect

this šŸ‘†


mechanized-robot

Seconding & I havenā€™t even really used it much. The capabilities are seemingly awesome and the developer is obsessed with his project. I suspect Coolify isnā€™t going to continue to have success and hopefully will be around for a long time.


antoine-ross

What's the difference between digitalocean and aws? Ease of use wise and features wise?


-doublex-

aws has more features


Last-Leader4475

DigitalOcean is simpler and more user-friendly, ideal for beginners and small to medium projects. AWS offers a vast range of advanced features, scalability, and enterprise-grade solutions but has a steeper learning curve. It's what Vercel uses in the background. Choose DigitalOcean for ease of use and AWS for extensive capabilities.


redlotus70

digital ocean egress is practically free


kupppo

you can check out something like Coolify, Netlify, or Render. all have varying costs and pros/cons. that said, you always pay any cost with a mix between time and money. vercel gets your frontend deployed insanely fast, has a ton of best practices baked in, and is trusted by several large production appsā€¦but it costs money. want to glue all this together yourself and have a lower monthly bill with AWS? you can totally do that, but what you arenā€™t paying in money youā€™re paying in time and resources. there are other implicit costs to this as well, but this has the lowest financial bill. every project and company is different and has their own values and principles. i personally think vercel is worth it. even if your team expands to 10 people ($200/mo with a rate of $20/mo/seat), that is radically lower than any monthly developer pay. it allows you to spend more time building your unique product and less time on infrastructure.


2this4u

Yep. People here balk at cost but for most the difference is less than an hour's work every month. There's something to be said for a system that "just works".


antoine-ross

Why not GCP, Azure or AWS?


kupppo

you can definitely use any of those. again, those services don't come with a "plug and play" experience like Vercel does. AWS, GCP, and Azure fit more into the "provider" space vs the "service" space. a lot of the services are built on top of these providers. the provider might be cheaper financially, but you then pay in time to build what these services give you out of the box. Vercel, Render and Coolify fit more into the "services" space. Render, for example, ships with a bunch of comparable features like preview environments based off git branching. these services have more abstractions and primitives for you to get going fast. if you want the Vercel experience and you don't already have a bunch of existing infrastructure, i personally think it's better to just use Vercel. some people love AWS (or other providers), have multiple parts of their project(s) there, and want to keep everything in one platform. that can also work. everything is about understanding the trade-offs at a high level. the main point of this post is to be aware that you might be paying a lot more in time than money if you want "the Vercel experience" but think you can build it yourself. it's not trivial work, there's a lot of nuances, and it's likely not going to be nearly as good as what a company valued at $3.25b who has a team of engineers full-time on this are building.


pm_me_ur_doggo__

How much are you paying that developer per month? What is their effective hourly rate? How many hours are you going to spend migrating to something other than vercel? $40 a month is actually not that much money in the context of a business where youā€™re paying people thousands per month for their labour.


sheriffderek

So true. If one 150h dev gets distracted or has to fiddle around with anything for even 30 minutes - or the other stakeholders need preview branches - this flips quickly. But Iā€™ve been in situations where I was adding 8+ students to a group project, and I just couldnā€™t afford it. One of those people might not even contribute that month. I donā€™t have a solution, but I feel like thereā€™s a pricing model thatā€™s _different_ - and could work for everyone. Iā€™m happy to spend money. But I canā€™t spend money on barely used ā€œslots.ā€


Simple_Law2628

Sure. But I come from a finance background and have a frugal mindset in life and in business. I know there is no way that what I am using vercel for would cost $20/seat anywhere else. The team will grow, that $40 is not a fixed cost. As a young company, I donā€™t think itā€™s a bad thing to want to save cash anywhere I can.


ellisthedev

You didnā€™t answer their question, though. What is the cost of migrating to another service vs just paying $40? Have you done a CBA, or are you just jumping right into a migration?


Simple_Law2628

Itā€™s not a massive SaaS platform. I understand this could cause it to be more complex. But itā€™s not.


Simple_Law2628

The migration itself could be done in a day, like I said itā€™s mostly static hosting. A few functions. Nothing crazy. Would almost undoubtedly be less monetary consumption to migrate than stay.


Won-Ton-Wonton

"Done in a day" At a rate of 2 devs, $40/hr, 8hr day, that's a $640 jump. What's your actual cost benefit analysis to jumping ship to somewhere else *right now*? Do you anticipate having significant downtime as a result of going to another service that wouldn't happen with Vercel? Such as poor documentation for hosting a Next app on their service. That's ultimately what you need to look at. Not the fact that you're paying $240/year per person. But how much additional costs will come from shopping around.


Simple_Law2628

When I say done in a day, I mean I can do it on my own in a very insignificant amount of time. Iā€™m not on salary, I donā€™t technically have a ā€œrate.ā€ Not to say my time is worthless. I donā€™t think it would take more than a few hours tops, but obviously this varies with whatever platform I choose, which is up in the air hence this post. It took me 10 minutes to deploy to Vercel, so even something slightly more complex, I canā€™t imagine itā€™ll be much longer.


hakazvaka

you come from a finance background but donā€™t consider opportunity cost?


Simple_Law2628

How can I consider the opportunity cost when I donā€™t even know what I am moving to? I am not sure when I said I wouldnā€™t consider the cost. I did, however, say it will vary depending on what I choose. This post is purely fielding ideas.


hakazvaka

opportunity cost in this context means cost of your labor


Simple_Law2628

Yes, of course. I mentioned I know my time is not worthless. But building a company is different than working a w2 gig (not that thereā€™s anything wrong with a w2 job, ofc). Lots of different considerations. Iā€™m not trying to sound stubborn. But please read the context of my original post and these replies. I am looking for something that has similar features to vercel, without the ā€œbig startup returning money to VCsā€ pricing model. Thatā€™s all. Iā€™m not looking for a super complicated solution that would be cheaper but take hours to spin up. In my original post I said ideally I want something that is basically vercel but cheaper. It seems that exists with coolify and a VPS? If it takes me 2 hours to save $240 per year per team member (which, I expect to grow the team by another 3-4 people by December). Thatā€™s significant in the scope of my early business.


Won-Ton-Wonton

Given your income could be made at X company for Y rate, you need to be considering this as a cost factor when making opportunity cost decisions for your business. If you could make $50/hr at some company, then when you spend 3 hours working on something that was a $150 opportunity cost. You can further factor in future income potential multiplied by the probability of successfully reaching that income. Most business owners assume 100% odds of success though, as the more realistic 10% odds is quite defeating. I'll say this though... I tried to deploy a NextJS app as a subdomain to my own website... **it was impossible.** I spent hours and hours trying to make it work, and I could not figure out why it didn't work. The homepage was fine, but trying to go to any further routes it would break. I never figured out why, and there is virtually zero documentation to help. That's the risk you take when deploying somewhere else with Next. It works, until it doesn't. I probably lost in the vicinity of $1,000 in opportunity costs with how long I spent trying to make it work.


kchatdev

I've got a personal website using NextJS 14 that is hosted somewhere other than Vercel. It is a challenge for sure. The biggest consideration is that the people who are hosting the app are also the ones who built the framework. So as you are pointing out, all of the overhead and headache of maintaining Next in relation to your host, is taken care of.. by that host. When something goes wrong with my website my host would just say "lol and?"


goYstick

If you want to be frugal but ignore that the team costs have to do with security compliance, you could have them share you login information.


Lanky_Possibility279

I see nothing better than hosting on vps like DigitalOcean. Traefik and docker compose take care of most of the things.


vetkwab

This. I've got a small company myself and changed all my hosting to a single digital ocean droplet. With nginx to resolve the different domains. I deploy via gitlab ci/cd with SSH but you can probably do something similar with github. Because SSL is free with Let's Encrypt it saved me quite some monthly costs. Also if you're running nextjs static sites you can look into gitlab pages. It's free hosting and I use Cloudflair to add my custom domains to it. But if you need server side stuff a Digital ocean droplet is the way to go.


Sceptre

How powerful is your server? I love this in theory- but I feel like I really need to jump a few pricing tiers before I can justify running a bunch of docker containers.


vetkwab

I run a regular 4 GiB 2 vCPUs droplet, which cost $24 a month. I used to pay about $ 12 a month per domain with hosting. So running 3 sites on it would already be saving money. I run way more than those are but mostly either static sites or fairly low computing heavy sites. I think about 15 in total. Which otherwise would have cost my close to 200 a month. But the thing is, most of those websites are projects of mine, client websites all run on their own droplet, but the clients pay for that, the topic was about cutting your own cost and this is a fairly easy way to do that. I actually run a seconds droplet, the cheapest tier, which is my gitlab runner. Handles my docker in docker ci/cd builds without any problem. Makes me think my other droplet could even be cheaper probably.


Simple_Law2628

Will look into it, seems like digital ocean is popular!


key-bored-warrior

Digital Ocean is really easy to host on their App Platform or on a regular Ubuntu droplet. The documentation is really good as well


Azarro

This pretty much - Iā€™ve used various services and digitalocean is always my go to. I run most of my heavy trafficked apps out of one droplet. I recently tried vercel for another web app that blew up even more and vercel pricing isnā€™t ideal but not too crazy yet. The new pricing scheme is not good though so Iā€™ll be looking to move


Krunkworx

Youā€™re the reason why the free tier is so good


Simple_Law2628

Yes, free tier is excellent. Vercel is a good product, donā€™t get me wrong.


who_am_i_to_say_so

Yeah this should be a success story. Instead itā€™s a complaint about charging $40 per person per month, for a company of two people, to host an ENTERPRISE app. Comedic!


jjjustseeyou

Coolify self hosted. Very good. Takes a day to setup but you're fine right after.


nowlena

AWS via SST


biatchwhuuut

I second this. SST is also not just for deploying nextjs projects in AWS, making it a rather valuable tool to learn.


random_citizen_218

This is the way


mgruner

Checkout Cloudflare


roby-codes

Try Coolify, i am hosting 9 next.js apps on my server with it and itā€™s been the most time saving tool i ever tried!


bister_is_here

How much traffic or how many users do you have? How much do you spend on servers?


roby-codes

Hi, I run these apps on my VPS with 4vCore, 8 GB RAM, 240 GB NVMe, I spend around ā‚¬17 / month for this server. This is my VPS for personal projects, currently have 9 Next.js apps and 1 WordPress site. Regarding traffic: itā€™s basically zero since these apps are only stored to showcase my work to new customers if they want to see it. I occasionally update these apps to keep Next.js and other packages up-to-date. The auto-rebuild feature on repo push saves me plenty of time.


roby-codes

I'm using only 40% of ram memory so far, so I still can add plenty of projects here and not care about anything since bandwidth is unmetered too šŸ˜


Tall-Title4169

I use Railway for most things. Traditional servers not serverless. Spin up a Node.js server and database, connect GitHub for deployments. https://railway.app/template/0csXuv


chulbulbulbulpandey

[https://sst.dev/](https://sst.dev/)


qrzte

I use Google Cloud Run. Deploying is as easy as on Vercel imho. Just connect your repo and let gcp do the rest


thewritingwallah

check -Ā [https://coolify.io/](https://coolify.io/)Ā an open-source & self-hostable Heroku / Netlify / Vercel alternative.


Uber_Ape

Netlify


Few-Performer2074

I recently built my first SAAS product for writers. Initially I deployed it on the Vercel but looking at their pricing at the scale level I moved to the AWS amplify. Ha, it takes time to deploy but it works smoothly. At the start you need to feedle with it for some time but after that it is cool.


matthiastorm

you could use aws or google cloud. But just take a minute to think about the time that developer will need to get everything that's included in Vercel to work on there. It'll be a hell of a lot more than 20$ every month if you're not hiring Indians or whatever.


gonssss

sst if u wanna use aws


mustardpete

Just self host with docker on somewhere like digital ocean, takes an hour or 2 to setup and add GitHub actions to auto build and deploy it


ViolentCrumble

I rented a bare metal server. It costs me $100 a month so definitely more but I run caprover on it and anytime I like I can spool up a droplet or publish right from GitHub and it just works. Currently running like 7 droplets on it that all automatically build from gitlab. So if you have more uses I highly recommend I bet you can find somethin cheaper just depends on your workload needs.


v3gg

Coolify


AndreiHudovich

Hetzner + Coolify is all you need


YlikeThis_GFX

I am hosting my site (zvgscout.com) on render.com. In my Option the easiest to setup.


xkumropotash

Check dokploy


Intuvo

Aws amplify


Shion420

Amplify


MythicalOdyssey

AWS Amplify. Super annoying to setup but once itā€™s setup it runs like a charm. Cost very little. Auto deployment to Lambda for api


Mindless_Swimmer1751

Check out Railway and Adaptable


flybayer

You might like [https://www.flightcontrol.dev/](https://www.flightcontrol.dev/) ā€” it's a common next step for Vercel users


goato305

AWS Amplify. It has some rough edges but itā€™s getting better with each release.


codeleter

cloudflare pages, for 20$ you can try this good old heroku too.


TheDarmaInitiative

I think you could give a try to Cloudflare. It doesnā€™t have so many features but gets the job done.


marcelmd_

Cloudflare Pages can do a considerable amount of the things you were looking for


Blueberry73

if you're interested in serverless, checkout SST. Basically makes it really easy to host a next application on AWS serverless functions without having to touch any nasty AWS stuff


Simple_Law2628

Will check it out!


NeoCiber

Devs are expensive, 40$ USD a month doesn't sounds that much in comparison , to paying for example ~50$/hour.Ā  The Best thing you could do is host it by yourself with a service like coolify and a VPS, you could reduce the hosting to 5$ month in a cheap VPS.


Eric-Smith

Fly.io is what I went to, definitely the best alternative to Vercel. Very easy to get going too


AlarmedTowel4514

Digitalocean app platform or netlify


Mashwishi

aws amplify ?


valtro05

I love netlify


9sim9

Netlify


Dense_Papaya_1494

Self host coolify


levarburger

Your best bet is AWS. Amplify Gen2 is not perfect but way better than Gen1 and you pretty much only pay for compute. If you start a new account itā€™s practically free for a year depending on your user base. That being said, Vercel still has better Dx.


Few-Performer2074

If you setup Domain, they will charge for Route53 usage. I think it is hardly a dollar a month.