It's a weird take. The staff may also believe Reich has the better ability to train a rookie QB given his background compared to Wilks which is a CB coach.
A CB coach who refused to make any adjustments when Dionte Johnson and Mike Evans single handedly beat us in two critical games. Getting burned by Evans on the same route 3 times is just ridiculous. Idk how he didn’t put anyone over the top at any point in that game lol.
The best part of Mike McCarthy not being our coach, is I never have to hear him talk about pad level.
Or his vague assurance to "get that cleaned up in practice this week."
Frank got some heat for the last couple seasons or so here, but he is gonna be fine as long as you get a decent QB. Every QB that came through here had an improved season compared to their previous year. Luck looked fantastic once his arm was fully back, and ended up having arguably his best season. Rivers had a bounce back year. Jacoby showed great improvement. Wentz’s stats were night and day compared to 2020 in Philly. Just fell apart this season due to the line collapsing and Ryan being washed. Hope you guys land a great QB and find a ton of success with Frank.
I mean I’d like to know more about when the Panthers hired Reich’s daughter (and whether that was after Reich was fired by Indy) like Schefter said they did but I don’t think there’s anything malicious here
While I can't answer that, I do know that he was a pastor and the president of a seminary (pastor training school) in Charlotte between playing and coaching, about the time his daughters graduated high school. It's entirely plausible that she wanted to return home, and stay close to the NFL, without any foul play involved.
This is a total non issue.
If people are concerned about nepotism in the NFL, they can literally just turn around and look at the multiple sons of head coaches being directly hired by their dads. Or look at Irsay hiring his unqualified mate for the top job.
The fact that Reich's daughter happens to work in a non-decision making, non-football part of the same organisation isn't even close to be a problem compared to the many very obvious and blatant examples of nepotism.
Hue commanded the tank admirably (although, like one game would have been cool in 2017).
He may have been an incompetent snake who wanted to trade a 2nd rounder (Nick Chubb) for Andy fucking Dalton but he did get us Myles. He can fuck himself for the 6 games of 2018 though.
I just want to see a picture of the gms face when irsay says he's hired Jeff Saturday despite everyone he pays to advise on these issues having their advice completely ignored.
Yep. The Jan 1 game where Mike Evans got 600 yards was at Raymond James Stadium.
There's something painful about our beloved CB coach getting outsted as HC because his CBs couldn't play.
And after our other corners got absolutely roasted by Evans not only did he not even TRY Norman on Evans (what's the worst that can happen? Literally every target was a TD already) but he didn't give safety help overtop either.
He left them on an island and made 0 adjustments the entire game, which is exactly the kind of shit Rivera did, and exactly the kind of shit Fox did before him. Which is exactly why Panthers fans wanted an offensive focused head coach for once.
Wilks fucked himself by being stubborn, just like all the old defensive focused, refuse to make adjustment coaches that have come before him that are stuck in the 90's.
From what i recall, they did not slow him to pick any of his assistant coaches. If true, that one is not solely on him. They drafted Rosen for goodness sakes. Actually, let’s just pretend that didn’t happen lol.
The r/NFL hivemind and many scouts LOVED Rosen and insisted he was going to be the best QB in the draft.
Rosen was by far the worst 1st rd QB and might be worse than Mason Rudolph and Mike White, neither of whom I'd describe as franchise QBs.
Nah wilks was fuckin atrocious, easily one of the worst coaching jobs I’ve ever seen in my life. Not to mention he’d repeat the same dumb shit after every single loss and would constantly blame everything on the players instead of himself who was doing a horrendous job coaching the players. Also he was a bust but picking Rosen was looked at as a good move by most people, it’s not like we reached on a projected 3rd rd pick or some shit. Fact of the matter is Wilks was a truly horrendous coach that 1 year in AZ, prob the worst we’ve ever had at least in my lifetime and we’re like the most pathetic franchise ever.
*"Mr. Kingsbury, armed with quarterback Kyler Murray, has been given a much longer leash than Mr. Wilks and, to his credit, has succeeded. That said, Mr. Wilks, given the same opportunity afforded to Mr. Kingsbury, surely would have succeeded as well.”* - From the lawsuit.
Apparently Wilks disagrees with you about how horrendous he was in Arizona, since he SURELY would have succeeded if given more time.
For reference Mizzou’s defense went from I believe 104th or 109th to 29th in YPG this season. Believe it was like 439 to around 345.
Source: salty Mizzou fan who does not care for Steve Wilks.
The Steelers beating the trash out of the Panthers is one of the league's greatest traditions. It doesn't matter how good the two teams are. The fact that he only lost by 8 should probably get him a 10 year extension tbh.
Upon looking it up, the Steelers and Panthers have played each other eight times. The only game the Panthers won was the first one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw9Kv8w-LQM
This year's game was also the first time we've only won against them by a single score and only the second time it's been within two scores. Our average margin of victory in our wins is over 20 points. On top of that, their win percentage usually falls significantly after playing us. We don't just beat them. We annihilate them.
I am a lawyer in CA. 90% of lawyers don't do anything like this, especially not in public. It's that 10% that won't shut the fuck up that gives us all a bad name. Kind of like most professions.
It definitely adds a caveat to hiring black coaches that you have to worry about a racism scandal if you decide to fire them, which of course you almost certainly will, eventually, the same as with all coaches.
Thanks Flores.
I think we're getting to the point with Bieniemy where over half the league has interviewed him and the sentiment is turning to he must be doing something to fuck up.
Bienemy has never been a head coach at any level. He is a run game focused coach in a passing focused league. He reportedly is a bad interview. Do you want more Matt Nagy? Because this is how you get more Matt Nagy.
Wilks did a great job and would have earned the gig most anywhere else. He should get interest from defensive focused franchises. Frank is a quarterback whisperer, and the Panthers need to draft one. Wrong fit for an otherwise qualified Steve Wilks.
When Bienemy was a coach at Boulder, he was banned from the campus for a year after choking a female parking attendant. It's not exactly rocket science why he hasn't been hired. The guy has been arrested multiple times.
I agree with your first paragraph and disagree with your second.
Wilks did well enough in a bad situation, but I wouldn't call it a great job. He lost two winnable games. The NFL is, significantly, a results game (unless you're Josh McDaniels and somehow con people into thinking you can do the HC job).
No, we're going to have an off-season full of sports "news" outlets repeating the same stupid shit over and over. There's not going to be any debating involved.
Smells like lawyer bullshit for publicity. What type of attorney announces a suit over Twitter before even filing it? Not to mention, the news just broke and I find it hard to believe Wilks immediately called about suing.
We’ve also had a black HC and Hispanic HC within the last 10 years. If it was a race thing, MacAdoo would’ve been named the interim HC, not Wilks.
I'll never forget when the Lions hired a black GM, black Assistant GM, black DC and black RB coach but were racist according to ESPN because they hired a white Head Coach that same year.
Certainly not that 3rd quarter against the Steelers where that D made Trubisky look like Steve Young, by scoring a TD on a 21-play, 91-yard drive that took 12 minutes to start the 3rd.
Funny we just went through this in Nebraska with the hiring of Matt Rhule. People were screaming Nebraska's never had a black HC at the top of their lungs. Everyone shut up real quick though when Mickey Joseph got arrested for beating his wife.
Well we wanted him to stay because he's a top notch recruiter and definitely had a place on the staff. Plus he was a former Husker. Tom Osborne went to bat for him, then he went to bat on his wife or something. I think he snapped at the news about him not getting the job, and hopefully he can make amends with what he did.
I mean, Reich has proved way more than Wilks has as a Head Coach.
Are we really moving towards a world where skin color is something that you put on your resume? What happened to measuring someone based on performance/accomplishments.
Absolutely and that's what's going on here. They're never actually going to file a suit against the NFL but the name of their company sure is going to be in the news a lot. Crazy how that works.
Yep, this is what I don’t get. Want to hire a black coach? Get ready for them to sue you when you decide to fire them. That definitely won’t be a liability.
If your lawyer is going to put out a statement every time you are interviewed but not hired for a position... I don't think you're gonna get many interviews.
This is so ridiculous. Most people would rather have Reich than Wilks as their HC. Wilks was coaching at a mid level college job a year ago and had an awful season his other NFL opportunity. If Panthers let him become DC, that's a major promotion from where he recently was.
From here on out, I would not be surprised if a lot black coaches file these types of complaints anytime they're passed over or fired. NFL will eventually settle, and it is easy money.
> It worked out so well for Colin... I guess he did grift a couple million directly from the NFL for "programs"
This was by far my favorite moment in time. When it got leaked that he settled for under $10 million...and had to split that figure with Eric Reid. So when you factor in attorney fees and all that stuff he probably got a $2 million at best.
He could have been a back up QB in that same time frame and made more money than that.
But how much did he make from Nike and other endorsements who only brought him on to push his cause and would have never gave him any money if he was just another backup?
Truthfully, he still would have made more money as a backup and a possible starter.
His issue was that he wasn’t going to accept being a back up and no team was going to pay him the money he was demanding. This is most likely why his lawsuit was going to end up failing in the court system and why settled for peanuts.
Unfortunately it will result in less black coaches getting hired. Teams won't want to deal with potential lawsuits from having to fire or pass up on black coaches or staff. It's a shame because it's a real problem, but Wilks didn't deserve to stay.
This was what I was thinking.. surely if you sue everyone who interviews and doesn't hire you, everyone will simply decline to even interview you in the first place.
Why is Wilks' attorney involved in this at all? Not to mention Wilks would not have been a good HC. It's one thing to finish out a season as a decent interim, but Wilks was not a good HC when he had the chance, and I think his ceiling is solid DC at best.
Unless he can prove the Panthers didn't do their due diligence in their hiring process or that there was something shady going on, I don't really see the point in getting lawyers involved here.
I mean, he got passed over for a guy who's 40-33-1 in his career despite having a different starting QB literally every season (thanks to two unexpected retirements) and made the playoffs twice despite that.
Given those difficulties, I'd say Reich did a pretty damn good job and therefore, the Panthers hiring him is entirely reasonable. On top of that, Panthers ownership made it perfectly clear they want an offensive-minded head coach. Given how they past few years paid out, Most NFL teams want offensive guys in charge now. Maybe if Wilks was the OC instead, this would be a much different story.
Who would give this clown a chance now that he has TWICE cried racism after shitting the be on head coaching jobs?
I’m so glad Panthers didn’t go with this guy. Personal accountability has to mean something to a head coach in the NFL.
How to guarantee you don’t get another chance in one easy step. Why would you hire a litigious liability when you could just avoid the headache altogether?
After watching Mike Evans clown the defense for three TDs with the season on the line, it shouldn’t be that much of a shock. Even with Horn out, that’s pretty inexcusable.
I am not dismissing the fact that this is a serious problem in the NFL, but I sincerely don’t think race had anything to do with the decision to not go with Wilks.
1. The team made it clear that they want to go with an offensive head coach. Carolina has never had one, they’ve always focused on defense and they’ve never had sustained success. This was fairly well known long before Wilks’ team started doing well.
2. The team won a lot of meaningless games and when they actually had a shot at the playoffs, they came up flat against Pittsburgh and lost a must win against Tampa Bay.
2A. In that must win game against Tampa Bay, Wilks elected to punt the ball at the TB 41 down multiple scores late in the game. This kind of playcalling has been far too consistent in Carolina and while this is just conjecture, I have no doubt that for a guy like Tepper, he wants a coach that isn’t ultra conservative.
3. Wilks made it clear that Al Holcomb would be his DC and assistant head coach. The defense was demonstrably worse with Al Holcomb compared to Phil Snow (who, despite all of Matt Rhules faults, is an incredible DC).
The track record of promoting interim coaches is not great. Seems to be an immediate boost when a coach gets fired, and anyone semi-competent looks decent. But then the wheels fall off because the players get complacent and the coach isn't always that great. Guys like Tom Cable, Leslie Frazier, and Romeo Crennel come to mind who got the job and sucked.
Much more often it seems like teams want a completely different direction for the franchise, which is why you don't see them brought on full time. Doug Marrone had one good run in Jacksonville before winning 12 games in 3 years. Mike Mularkey was pretty pedestrian in Tennessee and had two 9-7 seasons before they decided it was enough. They're the only interim coaches since 2013 to get the full-time gig. The history before that was pretty bad as well.
Why are we involving an attorney in this?
Frank Reich is a proven head coach, and proven to be able to develop qbs. He is a gamble, but so is anyone else, and Wilkes would be too
Also, it’s rare the interim gets the job long term. If it turns out it was a race issue, then so be it, and heads should role, but it feels like whenever there is a coach hire, and the black coach candidate doesn’t get it, then “something has to be up”
Maybe Reich is the better candidate, maybe Carolina is making a mistake, but it can be other things besides racsim
Jesus, everything is a race or gender problem when someone more qualified gets the job nowadays. What's up with these people?
EDIT: These people as in the ones complaining when it's clearly not the case.
wilks is a shit coach and I remember when the cards fired him the comments said don't act like this was undeserved because of a bad team. they were absolutely horrible at every level and he never accepted any blame or criticism
Damn right. I walked out of the first home game that season knowing we were going to be garbage. 3 teams scored 40 or more points on us that year. And they didn't improve as the season went on either.
Just garbage
I don't get why people are so surprised. Comments and radio callers calling racism, that (probably/hopefully) has nothing to do with it. It's been stated since day 1 of the search that Tepper wanted an offensive minded coach.
Imagine giving Steve Wilks an interview at any point in the future when you know with near certainty he will accuse you of racism if you don't hire him.
Shocked sure, but disturbed? They didn't hire Hue Jackson or anything.
It's a weird take. The staff may also believe Reich has the better ability to train a rookie QB given his background compared to Wilks which is a CB coach.
A CB coach who refused to make any adjustments when Dionte Johnson and Mike Evans single handedly beat us in two critical games. Getting burned by Evans on the same route 3 times is just ridiculous. Idk how he didn’t put anyone over the top at any point in that game lol.
Yeah but Reich doesn’t coach gap integrity and Wilks does
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Not the gap integrity😭🫡
The best part of Mike McCarthy not being our coach, is I never have to hear him talk about pad level. Or his vague assurance to "get that cleaned up in practice this week."
Thank you for being a reasonable Panthers fan. The circle jerk for Wilks on the sub has been unbearable
Those TDs looked so similar that I had to check if it isn't a replay.
Frank got some heat for the last couple seasons or so here, but he is gonna be fine as long as you get a decent QB. Every QB that came through here had an improved season compared to their previous year. Luck looked fantastic once his arm was fully back, and ended up having arguably his best season. Rivers had a bounce back year. Jacoby showed great improvement. Wentz’s stats were night and day compared to 2020 in Philly. Just fell apart this season due to the line collapsing and Ryan being washed. Hope you guys land a great QB and find a ton of success with Frank.
as long as the panthers don't let him talk them into trading for Carson Wentz he should be a fine head coach for them
Phil actually had a whatever year but that run game carried him.
I mean I’d like to know more about when the Panthers hired Reich’s daughter (and whether that was after Reich was fired by Indy) like Schefter said they did but I don’t think there’s anything malicious here
She said she applied for the position while he was still coaching for the Colts.
I missed this story, what does she do?
She started working in the marketing department
While I can't answer that, I do know that he was a pastor and the president of a seminary (pastor training school) in Charlotte between playing and coaching, about the time his daughters graduated high school. It's entirely plausible that she wanted to return home, and stay close to the NFL, without any foul play involved.
This is a total non issue. If people are concerned about nepotism in the NFL, they can literally just turn around and look at the multiple sons of head coaches being directly hired by their dads. Or look at Irsay hiring his unqualified mate for the top job. The fact that Reich's daughter happens to work in a non-decision making, non-football part of the same organisation isn't even close to be a problem compared to the many very obvious and blatant examples of nepotism.
Don’t mention him he owes me 2 years of trauma and of my life back
Hue commanded the tank admirably (although, like one game would have been cool in 2017). He may have been an incompetent snake who wanted to trade a 2nd rounder (Nick Chubb) for Andy fucking Dalton but he did get us Myles. He can fuck himself for the 6 games of 2018 though.
He wanted to trade it for AJ McCarron, not Dalton
And it was a 2nd and a 3rd
Yeah getting Dalton for a 2nd at that point would have been considered an awesome trade on the Browns' part.
Man who is paid to zealously advocate for his client zealously advocates for his client, news at 11.
[Schefter] Wilks' attorney rumored to have been seen shitting and puking when he was made aware of the Frank Reich hiring.
[Rapaport] officially official, wilks attorney has shat and puked
\[La Canfora\] Officially reporting that Steve Wilks has been hired as permanent Carolina Panthers HC
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The attorney reportedly stated Wilks hasnt left the locker room or even showered
He hasn't moved and is just staring at the wall
He’s been motionless so long Sharon from Janitorial is just vacuuming around him.
He’ll be headed to Thailand soon I imagine
McGruber will be watched on repeat so he can laugh and laugh.
McDaniel says Wilks yells "what's up beast" in the hallway.
I heard he left right away and then came back and then left again.
That was because his assignment is to move the ping pong tables when coaches change their mind
Wilks is beside himself. Driving around downtown Charlotte begging (thru texts) for Scott Fitterer’s home address
i heard he was on his way to Thailand
Wtf lol they are acting like Reich is Jeff Staturday. Imagine a team hiring that guy.
Oh I can imagine…
I just want to see a picture of the gms face when irsay says he's hired Jeff Saturday despite everyone he pays to advise on these issues having their advice completely ignored.
I wonder if he’d quit. Trying to build a winning team and the owner just completely undermines all your work
“You’re sticking with that motherfucker?!”
If he wouldn't have got blown the fuck out by the Buccaneers we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.
I do believe had the Panthers made the playoffs, Wilks likely gets the job. Even if it’s just a seat warmer for the next coaching search.
Yeah Wilks really fucked himself by coaching an awful game in an absolute must win spot at home. Has no one to blame but himself tbh
At home? Wasn’t that an away game?
Yep. The Jan 1 game where Mike Evans got 600 yards was at Raymond James Stadium. There's something painful about our beloved CB coach getting outsted as HC because his CBs couldn't play.
His cbs were hurt . They had to get coffee man Josh Norman
And after our other corners got absolutely roasted by Evans not only did he not even TRY Norman on Evans (what's the worst that can happen? Literally every target was a TD already) but he didn't give safety help overtop either. He left them on an island and made 0 adjustments the entire game, which is exactly the kind of shit Rivera did, and exactly the kind of shit Fox did before him. Which is exactly why Panthers fans wanted an offensive focused head coach for once. Wilks fucked himself by being stubborn, just like all the old defensive focused, refuse to make adjustment coaches that have come before him that are stuck in the 90's.
Or fumbled against the Steelers’ backup. Wilks had a chance. He blew it.
Or had an awful tenure in Arizona
Also had an awful year as Mizzou’s DC. He’s not a good coach, he had one fortunate stretch in the worst division in the NFL.
From what i recall, they did not slow him to pick any of his assistant coaches. If true, that one is not solely on him. They drafted Rosen for goodness sakes. Actually, let’s just pretend that didn’t happen lol.
The r/NFL hivemind and many scouts LOVED Rosen and insisted he was going to be the best QB in the draft. Rosen was by far the worst 1st rd QB and might be worse than Mason Rudolph and Mike White, neither of whom I'd describe as franchise QBs.
That just proves that r/nfl is completely incompetent when it comes to evaluating talent. Also I sadly was on the Rosen hype wagon
Nah he's absolutely worse than White and Rudolph. They at least still have jobs.
Nah wilks was fuckin atrocious, easily one of the worst coaching jobs I’ve ever seen in my life. Not to mention he’d repeat the same dumb shit after every single loss and would constantly blame everything on the players instead of himself who was doing a horrendous job coaching the players. Also he was a bust but picking Rosen was looked at as a good move by most people, it’s not like we reached on a projected 3rd rd pick or some shit. Fact of the matter is Wilks was a truly horrendous coach that 1 year in AZ, prob the worst we’ve ever had at least in my lifetime and we’re like the most pathetic franchise ever.
*"Mr. Kingsbury, armed with quarterback Kyler Murray, has been given a much longer leash than Mr. Wilks and, to his credit, has succeeded. That said, Mr. Wilks, given the same opportunity afforded to Mr. Kingsbury, surely would have succeeded as well.”* - From the lawsuit. Apparently Wilks disagrees with you about how horrendous he was in Arizona, since he SURELY would have succeeded if given more time.
He also then went to Missouri and was beyond atrocious as a DC there... Maybe he just ain't good
For reference Mizzou’s defense went from I believe 104th or 109th to 29th in YPG this season. Believe it was like 439 to around 345. Source: salty Mizzou fan who does not care for Steve Wilks.
The Steelers beating the trash out of the Panthers is one of the league's greatest traditions. It doesn't matter how good the two teams are. The fact that he only lost by 8 should probably get him a 10 year extension tbh.
Upon looking it up, the Steelers and Panthers have played each other eight times. The only game the Panthers won was the first one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw9Kv8w-LQM
This year's game was also the first time we've only won against them by a single score and only the second time it's been within two scores. Our average margin of victory in our wins is over 20 points. On top of that, their win percentage usually falls significantly after playing us. We don't just beat them. We annihilate them.
He had what, 12 weeks to win a division and a 1-4 record to start with?
I mean the division leader had 3 wins at that time so it’s not like they were out of the race.
6-6 in those 12 weeks wasn’t bad. But 7-5 would have made the playoffs.
This sounds like bullshit posturing by a lawyer.
Get all the money you can apparently
Looking for that settlement!
They’re lawyers what do you expect lol
I am a lawyer in CA. 90% of lawyers don't do anything like this, especially not in public. It's that 10% that won't shut the fuck up that gives us all a bad name. Kind of like most professions.
Flores opened the door for everyone to play the race card. Lawsuit incoming
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It definitely adds a caveat to hiring black coaches that you have to worry about a racism scandal if you decide to fire them, which of course you almost certainly will, eventually, the same as with all coaches. Thanks Flores.
That's half of the job.
More than half. Source: am lawyer.
Jesus it's not like Reich fucked his mother. Calm down.
We're gonna get a fourteen page statement from his lawyer later explaining how Bill Belichick texted him congratulations by accident
"Dammit, Steve. I'm sorry. I thought that this was Stone Cold Steve Austin's number."
Thanks Bill
The headlines makes it sound like they hired a serial killer.
*Greenbay laughs nervously*
It's not even Steve Wilks, it's his attorney lmao
That’s a bold claim without any evidence
I knew his mother. Great lady. Great lay.
Great lay and then she got that d and now shes a great lady
Yeah it’s not like they hired Jeff Saturday
You don't know that
Not yet...
Oh my god, they didn’t hire Steve Wilks?? Who can blame them…
We tried to tell them
I was “shocked and disturbed” by the Panthers decision to keep Rhule last season. It don’t change nothing now does it?
Are we really going to have an offseason debate over race built around Steve Wilks not getting a head coaching job ?
Just wait until Bieniemy is skipped over again
I think we're getting to the point with Bieniemy where over half the league has interviewed him and the sentiment is turning to he must be doing something to fuck up.
Bienemy has never been a head coach at any level. He is a run game focused coach in a passing focused league. He reportedly is a bad interview. Do you want more Matt Nagy? Because this is how you get more Matt Nagy. Wilks did a great job and would have earned the gig most anywhere else. He should get interest from defensive focused franchises. Frank is a quarterback whisperer, and the Panthers need to draft one. Wrong fit for an otherwise qualified Steve Wilks.
When Bienemy was a coach at Boulder, he was banned from the campus for a year after choking a female parking attendant. It's not exactly rocket science why he hasn't been hired. The guy has been arrested multiple times.
There was also the whole arranging for female students to "meet" with prospective recruits thing.
I agree with your first paragraph and disagree with your second. Wilks did well enough in a bad situation, but I wouldn't call it a great job. He lost two winnable games. The NFL is, significantly, a results game (unless you're Josh McDaniels and somehow con people into thinking you can do the HC job).
No, we're going to have an off-season full of sports "news" outlets repeating the same stupid shit over and over. There's not going to be any debating involved.
I felt the same when Wilks didn't put a safety over Evans to beat the Buccs
Smells like lawyer bullshit for publicity. What type of attorney announces a suit over Twitter before even filing it? Not to mention, the news just broke and I find it hard to believe Wilks immediately called about suing. We’ve also had a black HC and Hispanic HC within the last 10 years. If it was a race thing, MacAdoo would’ve been named the interim HC, not Wilks.
Even a racist would rather have Wilks be the interim HC than MacAdoo.
I was hoping no one would find that crucial hole in my logic… yet here you are.
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I guarantee ESPN has about thirty headlines locked and loaded and ready to outrage.
Stephen A already has a Tweet locked and loaded.
Man, I can already see all the talk shows ready to blast us tomorrow.
I'll never forget when the Lions hired a black GM, black Assistant GM, black DC and black RB coach but were racist according to ESPN because they hired a white Head Coach that same year.
Hey outrage won't make itself!
It's tough to avoid the feeling that most of ESPN's "talent" hates sports and instead want to be political journalists.
Mina Kimes already put her foot into the ring on Around the Horn today
Ugh I love her in almost everything she’s in but this whole nfl is racist cuz they haven’t hired more black coaches is too much for me.
I wasn't even against Wilks but its not like there wasn't a laundry list of reasons to not hire him.
Certainly not Mike Evans 200 receiving yards in a win or go home game
On the same freaking route every time at that
Second verse, same as the first!
lather, rinse, repeat.
Certainly not that 3rd quarter against the Steelers where that D made Trubisky look like Steve Young, by scoring a TD on a 21-play, 91-yard drive that took 12 minutes to start the 3rd.
The only tool in the toolbox.
Only card in the deck
Only bean in the burrito
The lawyer in his follow up tweet blamed it on race problem in the NFL.
This seems a little dramatic.
Lmao at “incredible job.” This guy is a nut.
Rich Bisaccia got the Raiders to the playoffs last year and he didn’t get the full time job. What makes this guy more deserving than that?
Maybe he should’ve beaten Tampa Bay? Quit crying racism about everything, it’s disgusting.
Browns were racist for firing Hue Jackson
Funny we just went through this in Nebraska with the hiring of Matt Rhule. People were screaming Nebraska's never had a black HC at the top of their lungs. Everyone shut up real quick though when Mickey Joseph got arrested for beating his wife.
Well we wanted him to stay because he's a top notch recruiter and definitely had a place on the staff. Plus he was a former Husker. Tom Osborne went to bat for him, then he went to bat on his wife or something. I think he snapped at the news about him not getting the job, and hopefully he can make amends with what he did.
Well 31 other teams just learned who not to let in the building due to uncertain threat of litigation.
30, we already knew
I mean, Reich has proved way more than Wilks has as a Head Coach. Are we really moving towards a world where skin color is something that you put on your resume? What happened to measuring someone based on performance/accomplishments.
You been in a coma the past 7 years?
Here we go again. I hope guys like this realize they're 100% not helping the cause they claim to support.
Let's be real the majority of these complaints they're looking out for themselves more than any cause.
Absolutely and that's what's going on here. They're never actually going to file a suit against the NFL but the name of their company sure is going to be in the news a lot. Crazy how that works.
Wilks definitely deserves praise for what he did, but putting the Panthers in ‘playoff contention’ via the 2022 NFC South isn’t much of a flex.
If they had just said surprised I think they could have had a good argument, being disturbed loses a bit of logic
You know what will make the NFL hire more black coaches? Making them a legal liability in case you ever want to fire them.
Yep, this is what I don’t get. Want to hire a black coach? Get ready for them to sue you when you decide to fire them. That definitely won’t be a liability.
If your lawyer is going to put out a statement every time you are interviewed but not hired for a position... I don't think you're gonna get many interviews.
This is so ridiculous. Most people would rather have Reich than Wilks as their HC. Wilks was coaching at a mid level college job a year ago and had an awful season his other NFL opportunity. If Panthers let him become DC, that's a major promotion from where he recently was.
Brian Flores moment
From here on out, I would not be surprised if a lot black coaches file these types of complaints anytime they're passed over or fired. NFL will eventually settle, and it is easy money.
He’s a shitty HC. This isn’t a race thing. If you want to win, you don’t hire Steve Wilks.
So everytime a black coach doesn’t get hired, they’re going to just sue now? Lol
It worked out so well for Colin... I guess he did grift a couple million directly from the NFL for "programs"
> It worked out so well for Colin... I guess he did grift a couple million directly from the NFL for "programs" This was by far my favorite moment in time. When it got leaked that he settled for under $10 million...and had to split that figure with Eric Reid. So when you factor in attorney fees and all that stuff he probably got a $2 million at best. He could have been a back up QB in that same time frame and made more money than that.
But how much did he make from Nike and other endorsements who only brought him on to push his cause and would have never gave him any money if he was just another backup?
Truthfully, he still would have made more money as a backup and a possible starter. His issue was that he wasn’t going to accept being a back up and no team was going to pay him the money he was demanding. This is most likely why his lawsuit was going to end up failing in the court system and why settled for peanuts.
He himself opted out of his $20MM deal
Unfortunately it will result in less black coaches getting hired. Teams won't want to deal with potential lawsuits from having to fire or pass up on black coaches or staff. It's a shame because it's a real problem, but Wilks didn't deserve to stay.
This was what I was thinking.. surely if you sue everyone who interviews and doesn't hire you, everyone will simply decline to even interview you in the first place.
Why is Wilks' attorney involved in this at all? Not to mention Wilks would not have been a good HC. It's one thing to finish out a season as a decent interim, but Wilks was not a good HC when he had the chance, and I think his ceiling is solid DC at best.
Wilks is involved in Brian Flores' discrimination lawsuit.
Welcome to outrage culture.
Unless he can prove the Panthers didn't do their due diligence in their hiring process or that there was something shady going on, I don't really see the point in getting lawyers involved here.
Good to see Jackie Chiles still getting work.
Disturbed? It’s a fucking football team, calm down.
He did fine as interim coach but since when does that entitle you to the permanent gig?
I mean, he got passed over for a guy who's 40-33-1 in his career despite having a different starting QB literally every season (thanks to two unexpected retirements) and made the playoffs twice despite that. Given those difficulties, I'd say Reich did a pretty damn good job and therefore, the Panthers hiring him is entirely reasonable. On top of that, Panthers ownership made it perfectly clear they want an offensive-minded head coach. Given how they past few years paid out, Most NFL teams want offensive guys in charge now. Maybe if Wilks was the OC instead, this would be a much different story.
Frank Reich record as a coach: 40-33-1 Steve Wilks record as a coach: 9-19
Who would give this clown a chance now that he has TWICE cried racism after shitting the be on head coaching jobs? I’m so glad Panthers didn’t go with this guy. Personal accountability has to mean something to a head coach in the NFL.
How to guarantee you don’t get another chance in one easy step. Why would you hire a litigious liability when you could just avoid the headache altogether?
'Steve Wilks' attorney' With that lead, it seems the Panthers dodged a bullet.
>Mr. Kingsbury, armed with quarterback Kyler Murray, has been given a much longer leash than Mr. Wilks and, to his credit, has succeeded. [X] Doubt
Money Money 💰
After watching Mike Evans clown the defense for three TDs with the season on the line, it shouldn’t be that much of a shock. Even with Horn out, that’s pretty inexcusable.
He was a terrible head coach in AZ
[удалено]
Begging through texts for the address to the ACLU
See Arizona resume. Dude was not exactly killing it there
I’m shocked and disturbed anyone thinks Wilks should be a head coach
I am not dismissing the fact that this is a serious problem in the NFL, but I sincerely don’t think race had anything to do with the decision to not go with Wilks. 1. The team made it clear that they want to go with an offensive head coach. Carolina has never had one, they’ve always focused on defense and they’ve never had sustained success. This was fairly well known long before Wilks’ team started doing well. 2. The team won a lot of meaningless games and when they actually had a shot at the playoffs, they came up flat against Pittsburgh and lost a must win against Tampa Bay. 2A. In that must win game against Tampa Bay, Wilks elected to punt the ball at the TB 41 down multiple scores late in the game. This kind of playcalling has been far too consistent in Carolina and while this is just conjecture, I have no doubt that for a guy like Tepper, he wants a coach that isn’t ultra conservative. 3. Wilks made it clear that Al Holcomb would be his DC and assistant head coach. The defense was demonstrably worse with Al Holcomb compared to Phil Snow (who, despite all of Matt Rhules faults, is an incredible DC).
Oh shut the fuck up already. This shit is so annoying
Don’t worry panthers. We’re used to being called racist for not keeping him too
Why haven’t any white backups sued over the racial disparity among starting players in the nfl ?
The track record of promoting interim coaches is not great. Seems to be an immediate boost when a coach gets fired, and anyone semi-competent looks decent. But then the wheels fall off because the players get complacent and the coach isn't always that great. Guys like Tom Cable, Leslie Frazier, and Romeo Crennel come to mind who got the job and sucked. Much more often it seems like teams want a completely different direction for the franchise, which is why you don't see them brought on full time. Doug Marrone had one good run in Jacksonville before winning 12 games in 3 years. Mike Mularkey was pretty pedestrian in Tennessee and had two 9-7 seasons before they decided it was enough. They're the only interim coaches since 2013 to get the full-time gig. The history before that was pretty bad as well.
You're "shocked and disturbed" that your client, with a 9-19 record as a head coach, didn't get another job as a head coach? Really?
Jesus this is dumb
Interim coach performance bump is an almost universal phenomenon in sports. It says nothing about the quality of the coaching.
Shocked? Fine, I guess. Disturbed? Well someone is being a little overdramatic...
Why the hell are attorneys getting involved with a coaching decision?
Why are we involving an attorney in this? Frank Reich is a proven head coach, and proven to be able to develop qbs. He is a gamble, but so is anyone else, and Wilkes would be too Also, it’s rare the interim gets the job long term. If it turns out it was a race issue, then so be it, and heads should role, but it feels like whenever there is a coach hire, and the black coach candidate doesn’t get it, then “something has to be up” Maybe Reich is the better candidate, maybe Carolina is making a mistake, but it can be other things besides racsim
Jesus, everything is a race or gender problem when someone more qualified gets the job nowadays. What's up with these people? EDIT: These people as in the ones complaining when it's clearly not the case.
If at first you don't succeed blame everybody else.
wilks is a shit coach and I remember when the cards fired him the comments said don't act like this was undeserved because of a bad team. they were absolutely horrible at every level and he never accepted any blame or criticism
Damn right. I walked out of the first home game that season knowing we were going to be garbage. 3 teams scored 40 or more points on us that year. And they didn't improve as the season went on either. Just garbage
Saw this coming
I don't get why people are so surprised. Comments and radio callers calling racism, that (probably/hopefully) has nothing to do with it. It's been stated since day 1 of the search that Tepper wanted an offensive minded coach.
I can't believe his attorney is Jackie Chiles! It's outrageous, egregious, preposterous.
I love how they mention bringing the team to the “doorstep of the NFC South title” like finishing 7-10 is some big accomplishment.
Imagine giving Steve Wilks an interview at any point in the future when you know with near certainty he will accuse you of racism if you don't hire him.
This isn't a case of 'more qualified minority gets passed over for someone's white golfing buddy's though. Wilks resume was no stronger than Reich's.
My god I am so sick of hearing about race all the fucking time.
Lol what? He went 6-6. It's not bad and the team did better with him but that's not evidence enough to be hired as the head coach.