Ironically I get a lot of spam calls asking for my dad who passed away a few years ago. Usually they apologize and hang up but the worst was a lady from sears who didn't even apologize and tried to sell me a warranty on a water heater.
Every time one of these guys gets rehired it just highlights the nepotism problem in the league. Like of the millions of people who would be easily capable of competing for that job they're only allowed to higher from a rotating pool of about 10 candidates.
From “Legacy”:
Me against the world so what? I'm Brian Dawkins
Versus the whole oh and sixteen Lions offense
So bring on the Giants, Falcons and Miami Dolphins
It's the body bag game bitch, I'm supplying coffins
'Cause you dicks, butt kiss, bunch of Brian Baldingers
You gon' die a ball licker I've been diabolical
With this dialogue since '99 Rawkus
The whole song uses that rhyme scheme, amazing
Don’t worry I get a guilty smirk when I see parsons flip offensive lineman out of the way, watching great defensive players is hard not to like regardless of the team
I remember the burning dumpster that was the Schottenheimer offense in St. Louis. I remember us warning Seattle fans about him and I certainly remember their fans wanting him out after a few weeks of bad football. I have no idea what Cowboys saw in him.
Can't wait to shit on this decision all offseason and then make sarcastic responses about how I never doubted him or double down how Cowboys gun Cowboy based off results from week 5 of next year
McCarthy is calling the plays and it looks like he's installing his system. Honestly not sure what Schotty brings except maybe ensuring that MM doesn't go too crazy trying to throw 50x/game.
Gonna be another weird ass season.
I wanted Moore gone just because he still had to much connection with the Garrett system and I didn’t feel it was innovative enough. I would 1000% have Moore back over shottenheimer though.
It's not the Garrett system, its the Jerry system
Listen to him any time he talks on the radio or to the media, he's always talking about feeding zeke and the run game makes this offense go...
In my “what if” brain, I’m now curious how much blame was placed on the revolving doors of OCs in Seattle incorrectly. Not saying they were all blameless but I wish there was a way to quantify how much blame should be placed where now when at the time it felt like it all belonged on the schemes.
Nepotism at its finest. If only the NFL cared 1/4th as much about blatant nepotism and the "good old boys club" as they do about racial hiring practices. I'll even go a step further and say that nepotism is a far larger reason that there aren't more minority coaches and execs than outright racism.
Nepotism is the primary issue for sure. I fully believe that owners and front offices aren't actively racist in the year 2023. The problem is that if you're hiring based on who someone's dad is, you're accidentally reinforcing the barriers that were put up in past generations.
Racial bias can also affect things even without active racism. A lot of picking out a head coach is going to come down to who you think has the best shot of running the team well, and that is greatly impacted by intangible and subconscious factors that aren’t necessarily seen on paper. And any implicit bias that exists will influence that.
Yup. Across 32 teams, there is almost certainly a good handful of minority pass or run game coordinators, or offensive position coaches, who deserve a shot at OC. To give it to a guy who is a known loser over them is absurd.
> Nepotism at its finest.
As I tell all of the kids I meet when doing campus recruiting for my company, "the most important thing in your career is your network, figure out how to build and grow that and make it work for you and you'll be successful in your career"
yea I don't get the hate, he wasn't terrible with us. Just pulled this from google:
>Over his three years in Seattle, the Seahawks' offenses ranked ninth in EPA per play (0.023) and 16th in successful play rate.
This hire is fucking hilarious! There are so many other coaches that child fit and they choose this fucking imbecile. He has to know no one likes this. It's pure entertainment. He's the m night shaymilininiana of the nfl.
I like how he’s out there in the media and how out there he is in within the cowboys community. Like I said, at the end of the day I watch more cause it’s a way to have fun because it’s just a game
Exactly, and OC’s coming in know this, so expecting a big name or someone promising wanting to prove themselves just means you don’t understand the situation here.
The Cowboys fans that loved it were always delusional. How quickly they’d forgotten the Linehan offenses. Moore was able to generate a top 5 offense this year with 5 Cooper Rush games and an offense that lost Amari Cooper with no replacement.
Good for Moore to escape the franchise though, he should be able to thrive in LA
Def not a universal firing that Cowboys loved. Kellen Moore wasn’t the best OC, but he was better than like 75% in the league imo. Idk what Jerry was thinking.
I really do think it was a mutual parting of ways like the press release said, if not Kellen telling Jerry he wanted out and Jerry trying to preserve a relationship.
Ironically he'll probably be here for the next Superbowl with his head in a jar, Futurama style. While we all roll over in our graves due to the great disturbance of the cowboys winning the SB.
This isn’t going to make the Cowboys suck bad enough to get a good draft pick, the roster is too talented barring injuries. This will just reinforce their one and done or just-missed-the-playoffs personality
Seahawks fans have always hated our OCs under Carroll. Bevell, Schotty, Waldron before Russ left. It's not based in any objective measure it's about letting Russ cook those years and feeling like it was the coaching holding him back
Offensive coordinator for the Jets 2006-2011.
Offensive coordinator for the Rams 2012-2014.
Colts QB coach 2016-2017.
Offensive coordinator for the Seahawks 2018-2020.
Passing game coordinator for the Jags 2021.
Coaching analyst for the Cowboys 2022.
Does that inspire confidence in you?
Also was the OC for Georgia in 2015, the year we fired Richt after the season.
5 of our games we scored 20 points or less, including a thrilling 9-6 victory. I left that game in the third quarter because it was so asinine
Prepare yourselves for a whole lot of running between the tackles on first and second down and screens/checkdowns on 3rd down. His offense was a major reason the Rams were unwatchable from 12-14, I cried tears of joy when he got fired.
On purpose?
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No no, let them finish.
I will sign the treaty
Mr. President!
They thought it was Marty but felt too embarrassed to turn him away
Welcome aboard Marty! I’m Brian. Yes, yes of course. Welcome Brian.
Janet, call printing. Nothing Bran, don’t worry.
I'm Brian and so's my wife!
** whispers ** *fuuuuuuuuck*
“We thought you were your dead father” is a tough convo for sure
Ironically I get a lot of spam calls asking for my dad who passed away a few years ago. Usually they apologize and hang up but the worst was a lady from sears who didn't even apologize and tried to sell me a warranty on a water heater.
You don't understand, they're thinking long-term
Long term as in already tanking for a high future pick?
Every time one of these guys gets rehired it just highlights the nepotism problem in the league. Like of the millions of people who would be easily capable of competing for that job they're only allowed to higher from a rotating pool of about 10 candidates.
We see the same group of losers continuously fail upwards in full view of the public. I can’t imagine how bad it is behind closed doors.
I lol’d hard at this.
People meme on him but his offenses ranked 6th, 9th and 8th in SEA. It's not like he was hot garbage
It was actually the last time the Jets made the playoffs when he was OC. I think that says a lot! 🤣
They meant to hire Brian Ferentz.
This is the kind of energy I was hoping for in this comment section.
Every time I hear the name Schottenheimer I think of Eminem rhyming it with Naughty Rotten Rhymer. So that's about how I feel 😐
cursing at your players worse than marty schottenheimer
You wacker than the motherfucker you bit your style from, you ain't gonna sell two copies if you press a double album!
Slim Shady LP was a masterpiece.
Admit it, fuck it, while we comin out in the open, I’m doin acid crack smack coke and smokin dope then
Bitch im comin out swingin, so fast it will make your eyes spin
You gettin knocked the fuck out like Mike Tyson
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Just ask DeShaun Holton
I’ll slit yo mothafuckin’ throat worse than Ron Goldman!
From “Legacy”: Me against the world so what? I'm Brian Dawkins Versus the whole oh and sixteen Lions offense So bring on the Giants, Falcons and Miami Dolphins It's the body bag game bitch, I'm supplying coffins 'Cause you dicks, butt kiss, bunch of Brian Baldingers You gon' die a ball licker I've been diabolical With this dialogue since '99 Rawkus The whole song uses that rhyme scheme, amazing
As a closet Weapon X fan this line made me make the stank face when I first heard it.
Don’t worry I get a guilty smirk when I see parsons flip offensive lineman out of the way, watching great defensive players is hard not to like regardless of the team
One of my favorite songs by him
Firing Kellen Moore for Brian Schottenheimer is as Cowboys of a thing as you’ll ever see
I remember the burning dumpster that was the Schottenheimer offense in St. Louis. I remember us warning Seattle fans about him and I certainly remember their fans wanting him out after a few weeks of bad football. I have no idea what Cowboys saw in him.
Brains dad Marty gave Mccarthy his start in the league so ya know nepotism.
What’s crazy is that under Schottenheimer, the Hawks had their highest-scoring offense ever. Still wasn’t good enough.
Moore asked to be let out of his contract. He wasn't fired.
Cowboys got their guy
They forgot Linehan offense so soon
Oh man there's a name I forgot. So many hated cowboys guys
Can't wait to shit on this decision all offseason and then make sarcastic responses about how I never doubted him or double down how Cowboys gun Cowboy based off results from week 5 of next year
The NFC East special
McCarthy is calling the plays and it looks like he's installing his system. Honestly not sure what Schotty brings except maybe ensuring that MM doesn't go too crazy trying to throw 50x/game. Gonna be another weird ass season.
first and run
Pretty sure what he brings is a willingness to be an OC under a coach who’s almost certainly fired if he doesn’t make a deep playoff run next year.
The thing people keep forgetting is he won't even be calling plays.
I'll just take some solace in the fact that I also hated the Dan Quinn hire.
Get ready for repeated runs up the middle on first and second down!
So nothing will change?
I think you’ll miss Kellen Moore by about week 4 cowboys fans
Preseason Week 2
Week 1 second quarter
21 minutes ago
I would've missed him the moment they let him go
Already do, Jerry never fucking learns
[Cowboys fans right now](https://twitter.com/cjzer0/status/912083184745111552)
The sect of our fanbase that wanted Moore gone is far to stubborn to acknowledge they miss him
I wanted Moore gone just because he still had to much connection with the Garrett system and I didn’t feel it was innovative enough. I would 1000% have Moore back over shottenheimer though.
It's not the Garrett system, its the Jerry system Listen to him any time he talks on the radio or to the media, he's always talking about feeding zeke and the run game makes this offense go...
Cowboys fans already hate this hire. He is a massive downgrade to Moore.
I’ll say week 2
His last season with the Hawks was pretty good until Russ started to not be able to play against 2 high lol
In my “what if” brain, I’m now curious how much blame was placed on the revolving doors of OCs in Seattle incorrectly. Not saying they were all blameless but I wish there was a way to quantify how much blame should be placed where now when at the time it felt like it all belonged on the schemes.
Just wait for all the 3 and 5 draw plays. Roughly 30 a game.
Bro wtf this guy sucks
Yea bad idea lmao
I disagree, this is a great hire
This hire has been approved by the NFC East.
I see no down sides!
-- literally every team that employed him in the past ...yet he still keeps getting jobs.
I remember us Rams fans trying to warn y'all about this guy. He was terrible.
he was decent for the last season with the hawks
Nepotism at its finest. If only the NFL cared 1/4th as much about blatant nepotism and the "good old boys club" as they do about racial hiring practices. I'll even go a step further and say that nepotism is a far larger reason that there aren't more minority coaches and execs than outright racism.
Nepotism is the primary issue for sure. I fully believe that owners and front offices aren't actively racist in the year 2023. The problem is that if you're hiring based on who someone's dad is, you're accidentally reinforcing the barriers that were put up in past generations.
I guess we'll find out when Tomlin's kids start coaching.
His oldest son is 23, might be soon. Only 13 years to win the Super Bowl as HC younger than his dad.
Never make a blanket statement like that about a professional sports league. You are certainly wrong IE look at the Snyderskins and all the mess there
Racial bias can also affect things even without active racism. A lot of picking out a head coach is going to come down to who you think has the best shot of running the team well, and that is greatly impacted by intangible and subconscious factors that aren’t necessarily seen on paper. And any implicit bias that exists will influence that.
Yup. Across 32 teams, there is almost certainly a good handful of minority pass or run game coordinators, or offensive position coaches, who deserve a shot at OC. To give it to a guy who is a known loser over them is absurd.
I want to see Duce Staley get a shot He's so damn likable
I don't want Dallas to give him a shot
I'm hoping after we inevitably "fail to renew" (fire) Matt Canada next year that Duce is the guy. Loved him and Bettis together in Pittsburgh
The reason we had to have all these minority hiring practices is Nepotism
> Nepotism at its finest. As I tell all of the kids I meet when doing campus recruiting for my company, "the most important thing in your career is your network, figure out how to build and grow that and make it work for you and you'll be successful in your career"
Everyone thought Waldron sucked too and then Russ left. Coincidence?
yea I don't get the hate, he wasn't terrible with us. Just pulled this from google: >Over his three years in Seattle, the Seahawks' offenses ranked ninth in EPA per play (0.023) and 16th in successful play rate.
Schotty sucked lots of other times in lots of other places too, though.
I hate Jerry Jones with every fiber of my being.
This is Jerry's World - ya'll just live in it
In the same way that Hell is ruled by Satan, but yes.
I pray for his long life in good health
Amen
Jerry can have any of my redundant organs at a moment's notice. Maybe the non-redundant ones, too.
It’s for the greater good
The greater good!
I know you hate Jerry and rightfully so, but I’ve never understood how there are Cowboys fans who actually like Jerry.
Because he seems like an entertaining dude and at the end of the day it’s just a games that doesn’t affect any of our lives?
What does he do that makes him entertaining?
Salts his McGriddle
This hire is fucking hilarious! There are so many other coaches that child fit and they choose this fucking imbecile. He has to know no one likes this. It's pure entertainment. He's the m night shaymilininiana of the nfl.
I like how he’s out there in the media and how out there he is in within the cowboys community. Like I said, at the end of the day I watch more cause it’s a way to have fun because it’s just a game
I don't think it'll matter all too much who's OC in Dallas. That's McCarthy's offense for better or for worse.
Yeah McCarthy is calling the plays who our OC is I don't think will matter all that much.
Haha...we're in danger.
McCarthy has had a lot of success calling plays. I'm not saying he's going to be incredible but you could do a lot worse.
For worse. Definitely worse.
Exactly, and OC’s coming in know this, so expecting a big name or someone promising wanting to prove themselves just means you don’t understand the situation here.
Well shit lol Seems like this universally loved by everyone not a Cowboys fan haha
The only worse hires would be Matt Patricia and Joe Lombardi.
As a Lions fan, you are correct.
Kinda like their firing of Moore. Cowboys loved the firing everyone else knew he would find an OC job real quick.
The Cowboys fans that loved it were always delusional. How quickly they’d forgotten the Linehan offenses. Moore was able to generate a top 5 offense this year with 5 Cooper Rush games and an offense that lost Amari Cooper with no replacement. Good for Moore to escape the franchise though, he should be able to thrive in LA
Yeah I’m excited that he’s with us now. Lombardi was so bad this was a great hire for us. Bad OC don’t get you multiple top 5 offenses.
We're going from a guy who had Herbert 31st in ADOT to a guy who had Prescott 10th in ADOT. What Lombardi did to Herbert was football terrorism
He did his best to turn herb into a potato
The cowboys fans who wanted Moore gone never really had consistent reasoning why It seemed like they just wanted someone to blame
I did not love the firing at all really
Def not a universal firing that Cowboys loved. Kellen Moore wasn’t the best OC, but he was better than like 75% in the league imo. Idk what Jerry was thinking.
I really do think it was a mutual parting of ways like the press release said, if not Kellen telling Jerry he wanted out and Jerry trying to preserve a relationship.
That wasn't a firing that was a couple announcing they were splitting up amicably when one of them already had a storage unit lined up
That just means it's going to work out for them.
Jerry Jones 200 year plan is coming together perfectly
Ironically he'll probably be here for the next Superbowl with his head in a jar, Futurama style. While we all roll over in our graves due to the great disturbance of the cowboys winning the SB.
Hello darkness my old friend.
Jerry's gone and done it again.
The last person who hired this guy was Urban Meyer Lol
Last year of Daks guaranteed money. McCarthy calling plays Schotty drawing up the game plan. Get your helmets boys, we’re going tanking.
This isn’t going to make the Cowboys suck bad enough to get a good draft pick, the roster is too talented barring injuries. This will just reinforce their one and done or just-missed-the-playoffs personality
If there was ever a year to finally suck (besides 2020) this is it
Is he run-run-pass like Marty?
He can be if the coach wants him to be it
Dan Quinn will replace McCarthy as HC before Thanksgiving
then they'll be in worse shape, probably
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Let 'em have the laugh for now, though, they'll need it.
Mfs really took a downgrade on purpose
Nepo Baby FTW
Woof. imagine having McCarthy and Brian Schottenheimer as your play callers (be real, its gonna swap mid season).
I wanna die
Jets no longer have most comical OC hiring of the offseason
Schottys offenses with Russ (by DVOA): 8th, 5th, 6th Hackett's: 29th Hmm
Why does everyone schotty? I thought Russ loved him and they had some good offenses, he just didn’t get along with Pete. Am I wrong?
Seahawks fans have always hated our OCs under Carroll. Bevell, Schotty, Waldron before Russ left. It's not based in any objective measure it's about letting Russ cook those years and feeling like it was the coaching holding him back
_IF_ the Jets end up with Rodgers, that OC hire gonna like galaxy brain.
I wouldn't go that far. Schottenheimer is likely not going to be the playcaller
His presence alone is a detriment to the team and to this league
Is he that bad?
Im a Jets fan and a Georgia grad. Dude is cheeks
His work at Uga may be the most damming
Offensive coordinator for the Jets 2006-2011. Offensive coordinator for the Rams 2012-2014. Colts QB coach 2016-2017. Offensive coordinator for the Seahawks 2018-2020. Passing game coordinator for the Jags 2021. Coaching analyst for the Cowboys 2022. Does that inspire confidence in you?
Also was the OC for Georgia in 2015, the year we fired Richt after the season. 5 of our games we scored 20 points or less, including a thrilling 9-6 victory. I left that game in the third quarter because it was so asinine
I left that game as well. Too cold to watch that shit
He still gives me PTSD when he was with us
Prepare yourselves for a whole lot of running between the tackles on first and second down and screens/checkdowns on 3rd down. His offense was a major reason the Rams were unwatchable from 12-14, I cried tears of joy when he got fired.
I’m now taking pitches for joining a new team’s fanbase.
We're also blue
and haven't been to a super bowl in decades either. good fit!
We haven't lost an NFC Championship this past decade😤😤😤😤
Jesus Christ man. How is this your breaking point?
Pass
Mahomes is from Texas.
KC is the next closest team to me. In any case I am bleeding red next Sunday.
Two words: Justin. Herbert.
See ya
Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
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HOLY SHIT OH MY GOD
NFCE get in here
Good hire
Martyball is back on the menu, boys.
Lmao Run, Pass, Pass, Punt. Good luck
whelmed by this hire
Time to rebrand all the Schotty memes from Seahawks Twitter
Lol I hate this team
LMAO NO WAY I still have nightmares from his offense 10 years ago lmao
On purpose?
That seems like a massive downgrade
Well I’m fully erect
This is an interesting hire and with McCarthy calling plays…
Must be nice having been born into the right family circles. The amount of failure rewarded by continuous employment in professional sports is silly.
LOL
How does this gut keep getting jobs? Isn't he bad everywhere he's been?
Makes sense, this guy helped the Cowboys win a playoff game four years ago
Little early for an April Fools' joke, isn't it?
Oh hell yes
On purpose?
Holy shit. The worst OC UGA has ever had. Somehow keeps falling upwards after he was fired from a college job after 1 year
This a big win for continued Cowboys suffering.
Lmao that dude from a month ago seriously got this all correct
Seriously??? Are they even trying anymore???
Fuck.
This franchise is legit stuck in the mid 2000s
LMAO