Andy Reid and Kelce have both said it was Kelce who lined up wrong on that play. Kelce was supposed to be on the LOS so that Toney could go in motion. And apparently Toney knew the rules enough that play to not go in motion being on the LOS
Well now we’ve got 3 different reports on who screwed up the same play. The funniest part to me is it was a play they already ran, and ran correctly.
The Ringer FF pod has consistently said it was Toney’s fault, that’s my only source. I’m not really that invested in it to research behind that so I’ll town your word for it. Or the other person’s. Or the podcasters, I don’t know, new meta is that everyone lined up wrong.
And all because he said the jets had no plan when Rodgers went down, but everyone already knew that. Oh, and he said he wanted the chiefs to trade for him when everyone already knew the jets were looking to trade him.
Jordan Davis, Jalen Carter, Ringo Starr, Nolan Ryan, Nakobe Dean, D'Andre Swift
Nakobe is a stretch though, he's either injured or invisible on the field. I'd say we miss him out there, but he's played less than Eagles legend Frank Gore.
You said you’re not but even if you were, who cares if you were some recent switch? There’s thousands of cities in the USA and with two teams in LA there’s only 31 cities that have a team.
People should be allowed to be fans of teams anywhere without having to justify it. Gate keeping fandom in sports is the wildest thing
Yes but it's a whole region, and the Pats play very much within it. Tennessee isn't a city, Minnesota isn't a city, Arizona isn't a state, Carolina isn't even one state. New England is more accurate than NY
It’s not named after a city. It’s named after the metropolitan area of New York. Which includes parts of Jersey, parts of Connecticut, Long Island, westchester…
Less of 'gate keeping' and more of 'I didn't bandwagon'. I'm one of the rare(ish?) UGA raised Eagles fans. All I knew my entire life was two perpetually underwhelming franchises supposedly of glory, then suddenly my Eagles won a game of destiny against the GOAT and the designate "next year is our year" CFB team actually managed to have that "next year" (and then the year after) And now the two teams have a cross major/minor roster pipeline. Besides the new scumbag, it's funny to watch the teams become the 1A/1B to each other
Who’s literally saying “aw I want to be a fan of this team but this random redditor said I couldn’t”
No one gives a fuck what’s said on Reddit outside of Reddit
Same here. Been a fan of both my whole life. I get clarifying. Back in the day, both teams used to be the teams that couldn’t cross the finish line. Now that both have, especially with how dominant UGA has been, people assumed I was just a bandwagon fan of both, which is very annoying lol
Strange to think kids born in UGA territory now will grow up with the Dawgs being THE (well, right after the Tide, but maybe in a few years?) team, instead of being thought of as the perennial underachievers, a team that was in the SEC but was the number 3 or 4 team for 40 years.
Match made in heaven, worst fan bases in both sports uniting 🤝(gator fan so mostly joking about Georgia, definitely not joking about eagles fans they can fuck off lol)
I love Mecole but the work ethic stuff is 100% true lol. The guy had a great rookie season for us and then he just never got better at anything while he was here. When he left he said that people shouldn't have expected him to become a WR1 because he was behind so many good wide receivers. Horrible mentality.
Anybody can call the Jets a trash organization and I'd agree - but a guy thinking he deserves admiration from his peers and a starting spot because he played on the same team as Mahomes for a few years and can call himself a multi-time champ is absurd.
As fans we have no idea what someone’s work ethic is. There could be great players who don’t need to practice like LT, or practice squad guys who really put their heart and soul into every week. Only coaches and teammates have any insight about a players work ethic.
Hardman also pissed Mahomes off more than any teammate he's ever had. How many times did Mahomes get mad at Hardman for running the wrong route, making the wrong adjustment, quitting on a route, or making some other stupid mistake? All that stuff is 100% work ethic.
You don't know that Mahomes "wanted" him back rather than just accepted any WR help he could get this year.
Mahomes: These receivers keep dropping passes left and right boss, one of them is straight up turning the ball over. Can you get me literally anyone decent at the deadline?
Veach/Reid: We got you buddy, we're gonna bring in your old pal Mecole
Mahomes: ... fine.
For most jobs I’d agree but professionally sports is a lil different than the average occupation. We hear about guys all the time being super dedicated but just don’t have it. Mitch Trubisky is probably a solid example of this.
Yes and no. We get to see the effort they put in on every play they are on the field. Frequently see posts here about guys putting next to zero effort in during games. Dionte Johnson and George Pickens come to mind from last year. Pretty easy to draw conclusions when you see stuff like that.
Eh, the guy didn't develop into a complete receiver, but I don't know if I'm going to blame work ethic. It seems like a lazy catch all without any real evidence. It's not like he was ever James Harden showing up to preseason covered in stripper glitter and 15 pounds overweight.
It's a great example because some guys have natural talent that doesn't require as much hard work to excel. Harden could give you 40 walking straight outta magic city. While some players work really hard and are just average.
Maybe running the show and not having to worry about having other stars like Westbrook and KD next to him allowed him to flourish into the player that he became but everyone could tell even when he was in OKC that he had Superstar potential, there was just no way they were going to be able to keep all three of those guys.
He improved while playing with Westbrook and Durant too. Then yes he took another step when he became the number 1 option. And then he went from being an all star on Houston to an mvp level candidate.
How anyone can look at his career and not see how he was improving year after year is mind blowing to me.
I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Mecole having a low ceiling does not mean he doesn't work hard or hasn't tried to improve. James Harden despite any amount of hard work he does clearly has a ton of talent and his floor is higher than most. So much so that even if he was to phone it in he would still be an incredible player. I think Mecole has just hit his ceiling. He is a WR2 at best but really more like a WR3 and that has nothing to do with his work ethic.
I mean you clearly implied Harden doesn’t work hard when all he’s done is greatly improve upon his game throughout his career.
Yes he’s more talented but he’s improved a ton.
Mecole not improving at all since his rookie year would be a clear indicator that he doesn’t work hard towards improving.
that really gets lost in the craziness that was the last few years of his career. guy was in crazy shape and still a very talented WR up until he threw his pads in the end zone
This isn’t a stray at the eagles! He’s just saying Mecole hardman leaked the game plan to his Georgia teammates. The eagles just being diligent employees in this story.
Because the Eagles losing a game in which the game plan was leaked would be incredibly humiliating, on top of losing to Zach Wilson. Didn't need to reference a specific game I guess is the "no reason".
No matter who is in the right or wrong in this particular situation, Mecole seriously does not have enough awareness to realize that he's just a Walmart Ted Ginn. Those 40 times at the combine make these players think they are way better than they actually are.
He didn’t play in one of them and caught one pass in the other alongside KR duty.
Feel like any ego boosting would have come from catching the game winner lmao.
I’m just thinking maybe he has enough sense to know when he didn’t contribute.
But MFer couldn’t even leak game plans right to my Georgia Eagles, so you’re probably right.
The jets offensive game plan was “have Zach fuck around for 60 minutes”. No leak necessary.
The eagles offensive game plan on the other hand was “lose the game lol” and we executed to perfection
Talking about his former Georgia teammates who play for the opposing teams in the NFL who played against HIS current NFL team....he gave THEM the game plan.....so when he talks about Georgia Eagles he means Eagles (nfl) players who went to Georgia (College).
Cleared it up for you fam.
Believe he’s implying hardman leaked their game plan to yall. Hardman went to Georgia and while didn’t overlap a ton with many of y’all’s players he likely still is close with some of them cause of the Georgia ties
It’s a pretty embarrassing take tbh considering they had the absolute worst qb in the nfl, a terribly ran offense, and *still* won the game.
Like really? The eagles stole your game plan and still lost to you? What is even your complaint?
Hardman went to Georgia, lot of Eagles players went to Georgia, Yeboah is trying to imply that Hardman leaked the offensive gameplan to his former college teammates on the Eagles before he played them
The mecole slander is wild. Tyreek who is the best WR in the league if not the 2nd best always vouches for how hard he works. Some guys just have a lower ceiling.
Hardman caught like 6 passes all season and is somehow dominating headlines lol
Caught the most important one of the season though
Stevie Wonder would have caught that pass.
Kadarious toney wouldn’t have
He scored a TD on the same play last Super Bowl
Could have had a second too, but he lined up on the wrong side.
That was Sky Moore - Moore was on the wrong side but Mahomes said “fuck it, we do it live” and it still worked
God our entire WR room is so fucking ridiculous.
I heard it was Toney, but really fits the brand for either one.
Andy Reid and Kelce have both said it was Kelce who lined up wrong on that play. Kelce was supposed to be on the LOS so that Toney could go in motion. And apparently Toney knew the rules enough that play to not go in motion being on the LOS
I can believe every part of that except Toney knowing rules about lining up at scrimmage.
Well now we’ve got 3 different reports on who screwed up the same play. The funniest part to me is it was a play they already ran, and ran correctly. The Ringer FF pod has consistently said it was Toney’s fault, that’s my only source. I’m not really that invested in it to research behind that so I’ll town your word for it. Or the other person’s. Or the podcasters, I don’t know, new meta is that everyone lined up wrong.
toney has the SB buffs tho that max out all his stats
He would’ve, he just would’ve been lined up offsides before too.
Stevie knows how to use his hands
MVS would have been 50/50
Tyler Goodson would have dropped it.
Colts fans looking at this post like “What he say fuck me for?”
Jokes on him, I don't even know who that is...
Well first off, Stevie wonder can see
now that is a deep cut
How about I start a team of leaders and pick up Stevie Wonder to be the wide receiver
Shut up
We call that pulling a Tyree
A Chiefs receiver other than Rice catching a pass IS a headline.
>!MVS got them Ravens tho!<
And all because he said the jets had no plan when Rodgers went down, but everyone already knew that. Oh, and he said he wanted the chiefs to trade for him when everyone already knew the jets were looking to trade him.
LOL Georgia eagles.
How many former bulldogs are on the eagles right now?
At least four, not including Swift who is a free agent.
Jordan Davis, Jalen Carter, Ringo Starr, Nolan Ryan, Nakobe Dean, D'Andre Swift Nakobe is a stretch though, he's either injured or invisible on the field. I'd say we miss him out there, but he's played less than Eagles legend Frank Gore.
Damn, how have they been losing with both Ringo Starr and Nolan Ryan on the team?
Should've kept Pete Best instead tbh
Ringo isn't even the best drummer in the band
But he does have the most blisters on his fingers.
Damn that sucks, I thought he was gonna be a baller.
It’s true lol If this no one is making this up though that’s insanely fucked up to say about your teammate
It's somewhat amusing as a UGA/Eagles fan to see this label be thrown around (Lifelong fan of both btw not some recent switch)
You said you’re not but even if you were, who cares if you were some recent switch? There’s thousands of cities in the USA and with two teams in LA there’s only 31 cities that have a team. People should be allowed to be fans of teams anywhere without having to justify it. Gate keeping fandom in sports is the wildest thing
Also two teams in nyc
*new jersey
New York Metro area. Stop with this non-sense.
Reminds me of when a Patriots fan was making fun of my city and I pointed out how New England isn’t even a city.
Yes but it's a whole region, and the Pats play very much within it. Tennessee isn't a city, Minnesota isn't a city, Arizona isn't a state, Carolina isn't even one state. New England is more accurate than NY
> Arizona isn't a state
Kansas City is a whole region too
Congratulations to the great state of Kansas for the super bowl victory
how about you pay your bondor we put you in jail for a long time?
There are like 10 teams that don't ctually play in the city they are named after.
It’s not named after a city. It’s named after the metropolitan area of New York. Which includes parts of Jersey, parts of Connecticut, Long Island, westchester…
It’s still Jersey Bub!
Less of 'gate keeping' and more of 'I didn't bandwagon'. I'm one of the rare(ish?) UGA raised Eagles fans. All I knew my entire life was two perpetually underwhelming franchises supposedly of glory, then suddenly my Eagles won a game of destiny against the GOAT and the designate "next year is our year" CFB team actually managed to have that "next year" (and then the year after) And now the two teams have a cross major/minor roster pipeline. Besides the new scumbag, it's funny to watch the teams become the 1A/1B to each other
Who’s literally saying “aw I want to be a fan of this team but this random redditor said I couldn’t” No one gives a fuck what’s said on Reddit outside of Reddit
Same here. Been a fan of both my whole life. I get clarifying. Back in the day, both teams used to be the teams that couldn’t cross the finish line. Now that both have, especially with how dominant UGA has been, people assumed I was just a bandwagon fan of both, which is very annoying lol
Strange to think kids born in UGA territory now will grow up with the Dawgs being THE (well, right after the Tide, but maybe in a few years?) team, instead of being thought of as the perennial underachievers, a team that was in the SEC but was the number 3 or 4 team for 40 years.
Philadelphia Bulldogs
Match made in heaven, worst fan bases in both sports uniting 🤝(gator fan so mostly joking about Georgia, definitely not joking about eagles fans they can fuck off lol)
I love Mecole but the work ethic stuff is 100% true lol. The guy had a great rookie season for us and then he just never got better at anything while he was here. When he left he said that people shouldn't have expected him to become a WR1 because he was behind so many good wide receivers. Horrible mentality.
Anybody can call the Jets a trash organization and I'd agree - but a guy thinking he deserves admiration from his peers and a starting spot because he played on the same team as Mahomes for a few years and can call himself a multi-time champ is absurd.
Yeah Mecole has always been cringe AF. A not good player who acts like he's Tyreek 2.0.
As fans we have no idea what someone’s work ethic is. There could be great players who don’t need to practice like LT, or practice squad guys who really put their heart and soul into every week. Only coaches and teammates have any insight about a players work ethic.
Thank you. Mahomes wanting him back is proof enough for me. Apparently this random redditor knows more about Mecole than Mahomes does.
Hardman also pissed Mahomes off more than any teammate he's ever had. How many times did Mahomes get mad at Hardman for running the wrong route, making the wrong adjustment, quitting on a route, or making some other stupid mistake? All that stuff is 100% work ethic. You don't know that Mahomes "wanted" him back rather than just accepted any WR help he could get this year.
Mahomes: These receivers keep dropping passes left and right boss, one of them is straight up turning the ball over. Can you get me literally anyone decent at the deadline? Veach/Reid: We got you buddy, we're gonna bring in your old pal Mecole Mahomes: ... fine.
If someone doesn’t improve at any job year after year you might have a decent idea.
For most jobs I’d agree but professionally sports is a lil different than the average occupation. We hear about guys all the time being super dedicated but just don’t have it. Mitch Trubisky is probably a solid example of this.
Zach Wilson famously got yelled at by Aaron Rodgers for spending too long in the film room before Aaron was a jet
Some people may feel that way, I don’t. There are a lot of factors that can hold someone back outside of a lack of effort.
Yes and no. We get to see the effort they put in on every play they are on the field. Frequently see posts here about guys putting next to zero effort in during games. Dionte Johnson and George Pickens come to mind from last year. Pretty easy to draw conclusions when you see stuff like that.
Eh, the guy didn't develop into a complete receiver, but I don't know if I'm going to blame work ethic. It seems like a lazy catch all without any real evidence. It's not like he was ever James Harden showing up to preseason covered in stripper glitter and 15 pounds overweight.
Not sure if harden is the best example in terms of skill development, he was 1st team all-nba/mvp.
It's a great example because some guys have natural talent that doesn't require as much hard work to excel. Harden could give you 40 walking straight outta magic city. While some players work really hard and are just average.
But Harden improved immensely from early in his career too.
Maybe running the show and not having to worry about having other stars like Westbrook and KD next to him allowed him to flourish into the player that he became but everyone could tell even when he was in OKC that he had Superstar potential, there was just no way they were going to be able to keep all three of those guys.
He improved while playing with Westbrook and Durant too. Then yes he took another step when he became the number 1 option. And then he went from being an all star on Houston to an mvp level candidate. How anyone can look at his career and not see how he was improving year after year is mind blowing to me.
I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Mecole having a low ceiling does not mean he doesn't work hard or hasn't tried to improve. James Harden despite any amount of hard work he does clearly has a ton of talent and his floor is higher than most. So much so that even if he was to phone it in he would still be an incredible player. I think Mecole has just hit his ceiling. He is a WR2 at best but really more like a WR3 and that has nothing to do with his work ethic.
I mean you clearly implied Harden doesn’t work hard when all he’s done is greatly improve upon his game throughout his career. Yes he’s more talented but he’s improved a ton. Mecole not improving at all since his rookie year would be a clear indicator that he doesn’t work hard towards improving.
Yeah, if anyone, that would be Mr. Big Chest
stop it antonio browns work ethic dwarfed every other receiver in the league
Mr. Biggest Commitment
that really gets lost in the craziness that was the last few years of his career. guy was in crazy shape and still a very talented WR up until he threw his pads in the end zone
Idk if that was necessarily work ethic or just him hitting his ceiling.
lol at us catching a stray for no reason
“I’m like what he say fuck me for”
“Nelly fucked yo first baby mama Melissa…”
I love 50 so much lmfao
It’s because mecole went to Georgia, he’s implying that’s how the playbook got leaked
This isn’t a stray at the eagles! He’s just saying Mecole hardman leaked the game plan to his Georgia teammates. The eagles just being diligent employees in this story.
Not even untrue tbh. Y’all do have a lot of Bulldogs
What is the "stray" here, and why is it "for no reason?"
Because the Eagles losing a game in which the game plan was leaked would be incredibly humiliating, on top of losing to Zach Wilson. Didn't need to reference a specific game I guess is the "no reason".
This is the shit I live for.
Right? Give me the TEA
Between this stuff and the NFLPA survey we drama-lovers are *eating*
For real the off-season should be 100% petty twitter drama. Like reality TV
No matter who is in the right or wrong in this particular situation, Mecole seriously does not have enough awareness to realize that he's just a Walmart Ted Ginn. Those 40 times at the combine make these players think they are way better than they actually are.
3 rings can’t help the ego situation either
He didn’t play in one of them and caught one pass in the other alongside KR duty. Feel like any ego boosting would have come from catching the game winner lmao.
Hey I’m not saying he was important just that he has 3 rings
I’m just thinking maybe he has enough sense to know when he didn’t contribute. But MFer couldn’t even leak game plans right to my Georgia Eagles, so you’re probably right.
Nfl recievers are famously a logical and humble bunch I’m sure he knows
His chain is too big for me to ever think he doesn't think a lot of himself.
Tbh, if I were an nfl player who had made it beyond my rookie contract I might think a lot of myself too
The jets offensive game plan was “have Zach fuck around for 60 minutes”. No leak necessary. The eagles offensive game plan on the other hand was “lose the game lol” and we executed to perfection
The hell is this guy talking about. I hate these no context tweets
Multiple jets have accused Hardman about leaking the offensive game plan to the Eagles who went to UGA. Sauce also tweeted about it.
It's too early in the offseason for this
That feels like a career death sentence...
Jets beat the Eagles
For the first time in jets eagles history. I'm more upset by that loss than any other last regular season
He's tripping out and talking about the Georgia Eagles
Talking about his former Georgia teammates who play for the opposing teams in the NFL who played against HIS current NFL team....he gave THEM the game plan.....so when he talks about Georgia Eagles he means Eagles (nfl) players who went to Georgia (College). Cleared it up for you fam.
Be nice, he’s a dolphins fan
Ya, we dumb as shit
it's a reply to a tweet. there's context.
Not if you don't have twitter
Someone wanna fill me in? I’m not understanding the Georgia Eagles comment.
Believe he’s implying hardman leaked their game plan to yall. Hardman went to Georgia and while didn’t overlap a ton with many of y’all’s players he likely still is close with some of them cause of the Georgia ties
Ya’ll? I ain’t an Eagles or a Jets fan! I just like to watch petty shit between athletes.
Sorry just assumed eagles fan. Either way comment seems to imply hardman leaked their gameplan to the eagles
Yeah I gotcha. I am a Vikes fan though. So there is a bit of competitive dislike towards your flair🫣😒😂
It’s a pretty embarrassing take tbh considering they had the absolute worst qb in the nfl, a terribly ran offense, and *still* won the game. Like really? The eagles stole your game plan and still lost to you? What is even your complaint?
I think what he meant was the Philadelphia Bulldogs
Hardman went to Georgia, lot of Eagles players went to Georgia, Yeboah is trying to imply that Hardman leaked the offensive gameplan to his former college teammates on the Eagles before he played them
(he's right about Mecole's work ethic though)
You don't know shit about his work ethic. None of us do.
The mecole slander is wild. Tyreek who is the best WR in the league if not the 2nd best always vouches for how hard he works. Some guys just have a lower ceiling.
Kenny yeaahhhhboooooooiiiiii
lol 1 starter and 4 bench players
This escalated quickly
lol why didn’t you know actually come out with this during the season then? Jets players proving somehow they are more incompetent than Mecole claimed
Hardman's only notable stat is catching the game winning touchdown in the Super Bowl
Literally the dream of every football player ever.
True
“Hardman’s only notable stat is doing the thing every kid dreams of and only a few will ever do.”
He got to live Everybody’s dream but it was like the most well schemed up layup of all time. Like you better catch that
He ain't talk
A modern day freddie Mitchell
Wait, we had their game plan and still lost?