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.....* Jamie Fox appears on screen with a massive CGI MGM Lion behind him *
and the gambling addiction hotline numbers are in small print for ~3 seconds while there’s some celebrity telling you how incredible betting is and offering you deals in order to get you hooked.
How is it any different then celebrities endorsing alcohol? Both can be enjoyed in moderation if you have self control, but just like in anything, there will be those who are on the extreme side of the spectrum who will abuse it and ruin their lives.
There are also more regulations on alcohol ads currently. Nobody actually drinks in them, and I imagine you can't advertise a free first time drinker bonus (in some states discounts on alcohol at all are illegal).
A lot of gambling ads try to hook you with sign up bonuses and depict people winning money. They also sometimes integrate directly with the game broadcast in a way that isn't possible for alcohol, because you can literally bet on the current game right now if you just pull out your phone.
I'm sure part of it is just the relative novelty of the gambling ads and how many of them are aired, but idk it does feel different to me than alcohol ads.
I enjoy gambling and I think legalizing pro sports betting is good, but I would like to see more regulations on how the apps are promoted and what sort of engagement tactics (e.g. emailing you about new special bets when you haven't opened the app in a while) they are allowed to use.
Mobile gambling in my mind is a HUGE problem. It creates a bookie who rolls around in your pocket 24/7. That’s my big issue with modern online gambling it way to accessible
Witnessed my upstairs tenants’ now ex-fiancé completely ruin his life with this crap in the span of 3 months. wracked up more debt via fan duels than I did over a 4 year degree. “Luckily” (I guess) he got it mostly dispersed via bankruptcy, but fuck; the dude lost his future wife and 7years of credit at the age of 21.
I’m not even sure if you can throw everything away that fast by diving into heroin
Yep, a big barrier to addiction is accessibility. It’s like having a 24 hour alcohol delivery service or a coke dealer that will drop off whenever you text them. I foresee a huge gambling epidemic ruining a generation in the next decade.
Bruh, there was a gambling epidemic loooong before DFS. Long before the internet. Long before phones.
I come from a horrifying line of gambling addicts that goes back generations. Scratch tickets, keno, horses, dogs, slot machines. You name it.
This is why I refuse to even look at those apps on any device, even my buddies. That shit is just so much danger for people with addictive personalities, a bookie in my pocket? All these little "games" I can play with betting? Oh free bets? Oh many different services...
Nah, I like paying rent on time.
Oh do they do that? They give you free "monies" but its locked into the app. Jesus christ man, they're really just full throttle merging the addiction of gambling with the addiction of gaming on your phone. (As in gambling in professional sports vs the gambling normally done in games/apps)
We're going to hear stories in the future.
Valid point but the difference might be that one of them is counting on those people on the extreme side to support their business model and has some predatory practices put in place to purposefully hook people in and keep them in. For instance, the free site credit you get for your first bets from virtually every gambling entity must be spent on another bet within 7 days.
It's a bit tautological because he probably has so much money because he is in every commercial.
I once saw a cardboard cutout ad of him for some energy drink at a Kroger and he looked so tired and unenthused.
I wonder how long he can ride his wave of fame.
I feel like he hasn't done anything great in a while. He's just been himself as a celebrity ad basically. Like The Rock.
When do people just say, "why do we even care about this guy again?"
Its like Will Ferrell and another comedic actors once their flavor of comedy gets stale. They'll get movie for several years based on name alone even though no one finds them funny anymore. Hart is probably being smart in cashing as many checks as possible while his name means anything.
I think you’d be surprised how many normal ass people still love Kevin. I’ll bring up comedy to people that don’t love it like I do and he usually seems to brought up very quickly.
To be fair to Kevin, he can be genuinely funny. He just gets paid so much money to take dogshit projects that the parts of his comedy acts that got big laughs are extremely played out.
[Term update: Jets WR coach Miles Austin is being suspended for violating the league’s gambling policy for a minimum of a year, pending the appeal, per me and @RichCimini](https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1606418622087368704)
PFT has a piece up which I thought interesting; players are allowed to bet on other sports whereas coaches (& all other league personnel) are not.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/12/24/miles-austin-case-exposes-flaws-and-inconsistencies-in-nfls-policies/
Rumor is he bet on a Detroit Pistons NBA Championship futures bet.
If so, he should be prohibited from coaching forever due to questionable judgement/decision making.
Didn’t one guy like place a lottery bet of $100 pounds on Leicester City every year or something and then the year they won the premier league, he didn’t get the bet in in time and lost out on like half a million?
Nah he cashed out early as he didn't want to be greedy. [He got £72,000 on a £50 bet instead of £250,000 if he had stayed with it til they won.](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-35747633)
The initial odds were 5000-1 and he was a bit annoyed that the next year they were "just" 300-1.
It's kinda funny because so many people are sure that the NFL is pulling strings with the refs to affect the outcome the way the NFL wants. But when it comes to taking measures to ensure the integrity of the game by prohibiting sports betting, nobody can see why they're doing it?
Regardless of whether the NFL thinks it's OK for NFL coaches to bet on other sports, it's the optics of having someone in a position to potentially affect the outcome of games gambling on sports at all. Let's say an NFL coach as been seen spreading a lot of money around at a sports book, then there is a very suspicious seeming play that comes in like a cowardly punt late in the 4th quarter instead of going for it. Something like that just looks bad.
What's to stop someone who doesn't work in sports from talking to his buddy on the Knicks? Makes no sense to ban non-football betting for all nfl employees, not all of them have intimate connections in other sports
I mean I think there are plenty of downsides to legal sports betting, but is game fixing really one of them? Donaghy, Pete Rose, etc all took place before legal gambling. Calvin Ridley got caught immediately - any game fixing that's currently happening isn't going through FanDuel.
On the one hand, I'm not a conservative "all gambling is evil" person. On the other hand it can be addictive and can be abusable but mostly it has super annoying ads now that it's openly accepted.
So basically yeah, let's ban it so I don't have to be bombarded with dumb gambling adds.
100% but now I'm banned too cuz we're friends.
We're friends, right? I feel like we've had a pretty solid connection ever since I've started writing this comment (God knows how long ago).
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/betting-scandal-hits-afl/news-story/860aeef473a3c229bec0921e5156f5ad
This happens.
The bookies talk to the leagues. In this case they noticed unusual activity
There's nothing stopping that, but generally speaking sports coaches are more "plugged in" than the average person who might know someone's trainer or coach. They would know insider information about the all of the local sports teams (hockey, basketball, football, etc.). Instead of writing a complex rule it's easier for the NFL to place a blanket gambling ban. It's also easier to avoid a gambling scandal if you come down hard on anyone who gambles on any sport, because a real football gambling scandal would significantly hurt the credibility of the NFL.
> sports coaches are more "plugged in" than the average person who might know someone's trainer or coach
No one is more "plugged in" than NFL Insiders. Let's ban Ian Rappoport, Tom Pelisaro, and that dweeb over at ESPN.
My gut says it’s just like having a DraftKings account and they checked his receipts. They have proof that he didn’t bet NFL but just want the whole thing nixed
nah its def not this. i think its to curb gambling addiction within offical NFL positions. makes sense honestly people really underestimate how common gambling addiction is.
> What's to stop a coach of the jets from talking to his buddy on the Knicks about making some money with a side hustle?
If you think that's bad, never bet on horse racing.
Actually, I take that back. Never bet on horse racing, period.
Info that’s leaked before the reporters tweet it. Stuff like “Lebron is getting next Tuesday off” and then you bet accordingly before the lines move. Not relative to the Knicks but a general example
I believe the idea is no gambling as a player or coach cause if you get into debt intentional misplays could be used to “clear” your debt and rig games
It’s that they don’t want you having gambling debts more than the sport
When is that not true? If you get into too much debt buying jewelry you can still rig games to make money to pay back the debt. That doesn’t seem specific to sports gambling debt.
True, but if it's "sports gambling" debt, you're much more likely to meet someone willing to make a sports fixing deal with you. Not necessarily the gambling establishment you owe, but a fellow patron.
I watched a interview with a formal mafia member. He said that they had refs from all the leagues. The way they got them to start fixing games was to get them in debt from betting on other sports.
Fortunately mafia members never embellish the tales of their criminal past. Especially not the ones who go on VladTV or the SiriusXM radio circuit looking for attention.
That they feel disrespected. Just because they don't dress as sharp doesn't mean they shouldn't get respect. They will break your kneecaps just as much as the other guys.
Also "casual" mafia is their preferred nomenclature. But as Kevin Durant can attest, giving yourself a nickname just doesn't stick.
Not really. Any gambler knows that you don't just bet only in the sport you are coaching or employed in. And that's a good way to get sucked into a deep hole with a bookie or site. Go back and look at any fixed game controversy.
The whole point is you can get in a hole and it makes you vulnerable to outside forces. Like “oh we will wipe your debt if you help us out in this Jets game” situation
It's a slippery slope that opens up more avenues for people to get away with things. There is less they have to filter through if gambling is strictly, 110% not allowed at any point ever. Than it's simple to find out someone is gambling at all, ban. Instead of this person gambles and have to have someone audit all of their transactions to make sure none of them are NFL related.
That's not even scratching the surface of some other shady dealings that could occur with betting on other sports and connections, I bet on your team to do "x", you bet on my team to do "y" and both parties win, sort of underhand dealings. It is far simpler to just eliminate it entirely and be strict with it. They cannot risk it ever being a problem that gets out of hand. It unravels the entire league too quickly and it's already catching flak for the gambling sponsors and the refs having far too much objectivity.
They also do not shy away from the fact that this is something that will get you hammered instantly without any remorse. Anybody involved with the NFL has said numerous times that they are very thorough in making sure it's brought up every season multiple times. You cannot be involved at any level and be surprised by this rule.
Yeah, so my brother worked at a major casino-horse racing venue in a production capacity producing/directing the races for casino and online viewers. He was barred from any gambling in our state for 10 years after finishing working at the venue, in any capacity, he couldn’t even play the lottery. That’s also when we found out that if any of our family potentially won the lottery there is a bunch of further restrictions and investigations by lottery/state officials we would be subject to.
Gamble, get in debt, sell inside information/tip plays/ etc it's not a big stretch to see how any sports gambling could become problematic for the league.
You can't turn on ANY sport (not just NFL) without seeing pre-game odds before the game & LIVE in-game odds during the game.
The industry is fucking huge and almost nobody can beat sports betting.
Yeah. And Jason Kelce is the only one who immediately advocates against it right after their promos every time. They gotta be paying a ton to them if Jason is doing the ads with how much he dislikes them.
Online sports gambling is really out of control. I could not watch the World Cup games where I live without being bombarded with sports gambling apps ads (Mexico). Hell, there's even an Official^TM Gambling App for the Mexican National Team.
I knew if I really got into it I wouldn’t be able to stop, I did the first time deposit on a couple just for fun but deleted the apps after because I knew if I didn’t it would be a snowball effect
It’s the closest thing I’ve found to cocaine. I’m not joking. The 15 minute dopamine rush when you win/hit a rail, feeling on top of the world, then soon i need another line/game to bet on, then after a bad day/big bender I’m out of money pacing around my living room with absurdly high anxiety. I need to quit both lol.
I took a trip to Ireland a few years ago to visit family. Sports betting seems to be completely unregulated over there. There are OTB-style sports betting places on every other corner.
I liked it more when it was sketchily done online and it was a bitch to get your payout. Back then it was predominantly smart betting. At least to some extent by sticking to the spread, over/under or the occasional teaser.
Nowadays all I hear about is you degenerates trying to hit 16 leg parlays and missing on the last leg. They are stringing you along. That shit is supposed to happen so you're sure to think you'll get it next time. These sportsbooks have this new wave of sports betting fans exactly where they want them. Playing the stupid low odds bets in hopes of hitting it big. Doing it across multiple sports. Degens hoping for such obscure bets too. Like Tyreek Hill going over 81 yards and some fucking movie you've never heard of taking best picture at the Sundance film festival in the same parlay lmao.
You guys could be playing blackjack but instead you're getting enticed by the big numbers on the slot machine. But hey, surely next week that 16th leg of your ridiculous parlay will come in lmao.
You laugh, but when Justin Fields throws a TD to a raccoon, Dick Allen bowls 420 series, and Billy Eichner wins best male lead and *Bros.* wins best picture, I’m going to be a billionaire on $69 bet.
Happy at least they banned advertising the details of the bet offers until you're actually logged into the bookies, something America should look into honestly
I have seen Tom Brady and other NFL guys at the Kentucky Derby. Do they want us to think those guys weren’t gambling on horse racing? Players also play fantasy football for money. What’s the problem?
Imagine you’re Jalen Hurts playing fantasy football. You’re playing in the championship. You’re a Monday night game but your opponent started you. He’s a real dick head so you intentionally throw 5 ints in the first half so that coach benches you.
Checkmate
For established starters I wonder what the interception limit is before benching. Like if Brady throws five into in the first half does he get benched? I doubt it. Kyler Murray? Probably
> I have seen Tom Brady and other NFL guys at the Kentucky Derby.
Idk if it's true for NFL's rules, but in Kentucky, sports betting isn't legal. Horse racing isn't considered sports betting as it's under a parimutuel system rather than against the house.
NFL: Takes a billion dollars from all of the major sports betting companies, advertises gambling in the stadiums and on TV, and one of their stadiums named after Caesars.
Also NFL: Oh, you want to use BetMGM to put $50 on the Nets -10.5? Suspended!
Edit: Spelling
I find it so hypocritical that the NFL does this when they show nothing but gambling ads. Go watch any video on their Youtube pages and it's literally nothing but Draftkings, Caeser's and Fanduel ads. It's very obnoxious.
They don’t want their people to get in money trouble from gambling and get lured into game fixing schemes. They don’t give a shit if fans lose their life savings.
We are a league of morals and integrity, please remember to drink beer and gamble responsibly while watching people turn their brains and bodies to mush.
The nfl has sources inside the casinos and books just like they have sources inside the league. I’m sure a name was seen on a ticket and it was passed along for further investigation.
Or a coach makes a questionable call and then someone who knows them tells a reporter that they're gambling on sports. Even if it turns out to not be NFL games that will be a huge mess.
Did a double take there. Was like "No way Miles Austin is still in the league"
Then I saw the bit about receivers coach. Guess if I was the receivers coach on a team featuring Zach Wilson at QB I'd break a rule or two to get out as well.
Thats stupid
Gambling on a different sport is not allowed? Lmao okay..
What about them peddling it down everyone’s throats every game? Kids see that and grow to be addicted to gambling
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and the gambling addiction hotline numbers are in small print for ~3 seconds while there’s some celebrity telling you how incredible betting is and offering you deals in order to get you hooked.
How is it any different then celebrities endorsing alcohol? Both can be enjoyed in moderation if you have self control, but just like in anything, there will be those who are on the extreme side of the spectrum who will abuse it and ruin their lives.
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There are also more regulations on alcohol ads currently. Nobody actually drinks in them, and I imagine you can't advertise a free first time drinker bonus (in some states discounts on alcohol at all are illegal). A lot of gambling ads try to hook you with sign up bonuses and depict people winning money. They also sometimes integrate directly with the game broadcast in a way that isn't possible for alcohol, because you can literally bet on the current game right now if you just pull out your phone. I'm sure part of it is just the relative novelty of the gambling ads and how many of them are aired, but idk it does feel different to me than alcohol ads. I enjoy gambling and I think legalizing pro sports betting is good, but I would like to see more regulations on how the apps are promoted and what sort of engagement tactics (e.g. emailing you about new special bets when you haven't opened the app in a while) they are allowed to use.
Mobile gambling in my mind is a HUGE problem. It creates a bookie who rolls around in your pocket 24/7. That’s my big issue with modern online gambling it way to accessible
Witnessed my upstairs tenants’ now ex-fiancé completely ruin his life with this crap in the span of 3 months. wracked up more debt via fan duels than I did over a 4 year degree. “Luckily” (I guess) he got it mostly dispersed via bankruptcy, but fuck; the dude lost his future wife and 7years of credit at the age of 21. I’m not even sure if you can throw everything away that fast by diving into heroin
Yep, a big barrier to addiction is accessibility. It’s like having a 24 hour alcohol delivery service or a coke dealer that will drop off whenever you text them. I foresee a huge gambling epidemic ruining a generation in the next decade.
Next decade? Be more cynical, next 2 years. Find me one "crypto bro" who isnt now shilling for their "sure-fire" 10 leg parlay
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Bruh, there was a gambling epidemic loooong before DFS. Long before the internet. Long before phones. I come from a horrifying line of gambling addicts that goes back generations. Scratch tickets, keno, horses, dogs, slot machines. You name it.
This is why I refuse to even look at those apps on any device, even my buddies. That shit is just so much danger for people with addictive personalities, a bookie in my pocket? All these little "games" I can play with betting? Oh free bets? Oh many different services... Nah, I like paying rent on time.
"free" or "no risk" but that money you "got back" is now locked into the app forever until you spend it on more bets.
Oh do they do that? They give you free "monies" but its locked into the app. Jesus christ man, they're really just full throttle merging the addiction of gambling with the addiction of gaming on your phone. (As in gambling in professional sports vs the gambling normally done in games/apps) We're going to hear stories in the future.
It's like how every gas station and restaurant where I live now has a little casino area. It's too available and serves no benefit to the community.
Valid point but the difference might be that one of them is counting on those people on the extreme side to support their business model and has some predatory practices put in place to purposefully hook people in and keep them in. For instance, the free site credit you get for your first bets from virtually every gambling entity must be spent on another bet within 7 days.
Jamie Fox did blame it on the alcohol though.
*A-a-a-a-a-alcohol
We’d be saying the same thing if the NFL suspended a coach for drinking while blasting ads for alcohol all over, I’m pretty sure
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>if you have self control Well surely that is much more helpful messaging, thank you for your service.
I can't get drunk within 20 seconds by clicking buttons on my phone.
Because gambling is strictly a wealth transfer from poor people to rich people
Selling alcohol and having owners invested in alcoholic beverage companies doesn’t create a {potential} motive to fix games to help their investments
It's not. Both are absurd
One is accessible in your pocket 24/7
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Kevin Hart: WHAAAAAAAAAAAA
Doesn't he have enough money not to be annoying as fuck in commercials
It's a bit tautological because he probably has so much money because he is in every commercial. I once saw a cardboard cutout ad of him for some energy drink at a Kroger and he looked so tired and unenthused.
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Dont you dare lump Shaq in with that unfunny friend of the former wrestler who isnt a good enough to hold anything other than a 3 minute cameo
I wonder how long he can ride his wave of fame. I feel like he hasn't done anything great in a while. He's just been himself as a celebrity ad basically. Like The Rock. When do people just say, "why do we even care about this guy again?"
Its like Will Ferrell and another comedic actors once their flavor of comedy gets stale. They'll get movie for several years based on name alone even though no one finds them funny anymore. Hart is probably being smart in cashing as many checks as possible while his name means anything.
I think you’d be surprised how many normal ass people still love Kevin. I’ll bring up comedy to people that don’t love it like I do and he usually seems to brought up very quickly.
To be fair to Kevin, he can be genuinely funny. He just gets paid so much money to take dogshit projects that the parts of his comedy acts that got big laughs are extremely played out.
Yeah, this really is a /r/RedditMoment because Kevin Hart is still very much famous and popular
He's going on an arena world tour and people are acting like he's penny pinching 🤦🏾♂️
I'd do the same thing. In the industry for years and didn't really "make it big" until he was in his late 30s.
Bitch, don't use those fancy big boy words round here. We (I) can't read good.
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Gronk wouldn't have started shilling for gambling apps if those jerks at USAA had just let him have a fucking insurance policy.
How much money is enough money? More money.
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Where can I bet the over on it being longer than a year?
Sounds like lifetime ban as he's now just a liability
If only he sexually assaulted someone instead smh
PFT has a piece up which I thought interesting; players are allowed to bet on other sports whereas coaches (& all other league personnel) are not. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/12/24/miles-austin-case-exposes-flaws-and-inconsistencies-in-nfls-policies/
_That, of course, would have prevented the NFL from putting a head on a spike at the border of DraftKing’s Landing._ Not bad, Florio.
Rumor is he bet on a Detroit Pistons NBA Championship futures bet. If so, he should be prohibited from coaching forever due to questionable judgement/decision making.
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Didn’t one guy like place a lottery bet of $100 pounds on Leicester City every year or something and then the year they won the premier league, he didn’t get the bet in in time and lost out on like half a million?
Nah he cashed out early as he didn't want to be greedy. [He got £72,000 on a £50 bet instead of £250,000 if he had stayed with it til they won.](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-35747633) The initial odds were 5000-1 and he was a bit annoyed that the next year they were "just" 300-1.
The moral of this story is that if you don't gamble, you can't win.
Like, he thought at some point in the future the Pistons might win the championship? Seems reasonable to me.
22-23 season
That's just throwing away money at this point
You can't even bet on basketball or anything? I understand integrity of the game but that's excessive to me.
Like I get 0 football at all, college football, xfl and what not. Then that’s fine. But Jesus nothing at all?
Nothing at all!
Stupid sexy Rexy.
It's kinda funny because so many people are sure that the NFL is pulling strings with the refs to affect the outcome the way the NFL wants. But when it comes to taking measures to ensure the integrity of the game by prohibiting sports betting, nobody can see why they're doing it? Regardless of whether the NFL thinks it's OK for NFL coaches to bet on other sports, it's the optics of having someone in a position to potentially affect the outcome of games gambling on sports at all. Let's say an NFL coach as been seen spreading a lot of money around at a sports book, then there is a very suspicious seeming play that comes in like a cowardly punt late in the 4th quarter instead of going for it. Something like that just looks bad.
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What's to stop someone who doesn't work in sports from talking to his buddy on the Knicks? Makes no sense to ban non-football betting for all nfl employees, not all of them have intimate connections in other sports
Good point. Ban gambling for everyone who has at least one friend in sports.
>Good point. Ban gambling ~~for everyone who has at least one friend in sports.~~
Good point. Ban.
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allowing sports betting has (my unscientific, unproven opinion) probably swayed AT least 1 game. 1 game is too many.
I mean I think there are plenty of downsides to legal sports betting, but is game fixing really one of them? Donaghy, Pete Rose, etc all took place before legal gambling. Calvin Ridley got caught immediately - any game fixing that's currently happening isn't going through FanDuel.
On the one hand, I'm not a conservative "all gambling is evil" person. On the other hand it can be addictive and can be abusable but mostly it has super annoying ads now that it's openly accepted. So basically yeah, let's ban it so I don't have to be bombarded with dumb gambling adds.
Can we also ban cars and anti depressants because of the ads
We also need to ban insurance commercials. And bad movie commercials. Actually nevermind, bad movie commercials are good comedy.
I work for youth lacrosse company, should I be banned too?
100% but now I'm banned too cuz we're friends. We're friends, right? I feel like we've had a pretty solid connection ever since I've started writing this comment (God knows how long ago).
BANNED. The police are on their way to delete the gambling apps off ur phone. Sorry bro :(
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/betting-scandal-hits-afl/news-story/860aeef473a3c229bec0921e5156f5ad This happens. The bookies talk to the leagues. In this case they noticed unusual activity
There's nothing stopping that, but generally speaking sports coaches are more "plugged in" than the average person who might know someone's trainer or coach. They would know insider information about the all of the local sports teams (hockey, basketball, football, etc.). Instead of writing a complex rule it's easier for the NFL to place a blanket gambling ban. It's also easier to avoid a gambling scandal if you come down hard on anyone who gambles on any sport, because a real football gambling scandal would significantly hurt the credibility of the NFL.
> sports coaches are more "plugged in" than the average person who might know someone's trainer or coach No one is more "plugged in" than NFL Insiders. Let's ban Ian Rappoport, Tom Pelisaro, and that dweeb over at ESPN.
My gut says it’s just like having a DraftKings account and they checked his receipts. They have proof that he didn’t bet NFL but just want the whole thing nixed
It’s likely more so if public sees a guy gambling on other sports, they may assume he gambles on football too
nah its def not this. i think its to curb gambling addiction within offical NFL positions. makes sense honestly people really underestimate how common gambling addiction is.
> What's to stop a coach of the jets from talking to his buddy on the Knicks about making some money with a side hustle? If you think that's bad, never bet on horse racing. Actually, I take that back. Never bet on horse racing, period.
What is his friends on the Knicks gonna say "Oh yeah we're gonna try to win this next game, instead of trying to lose it"
Info that’s leaked before the reporters tweet it. Stuff like “Lebron is getting next Tuesday off” and then you bet accordingly before the lines move. Not relative to the Knicks but a general example
You guys are acting like gambling is a human right or something lmfao. When you work certain jobs you can’t do certain things.
I believe the idea is no gambling as a player or coach cause if you get into debt intentional misplays could be used to “clear” your debt and rig games It’s that they don’t want you having gambling debts more than the sport
But players are allowed to bet on other sports. It’s weird that coaches aren’t.
Refs aren't even allowed to set foot inside a casino or any place with betting.
How do they get through the Las Vegas Airport?
I don't think they can stop.
They have to parachute into the stadium.
Through a window.
Flight delay at the Vegas airport? Sorry man it’s outta man hands, gotta fire you.
They just take dudes off the street for Raiders games, which explains their TD call last week.
Madden Bus takes them to games
They just leave them outside near the runway and let them on the plane when it's ready to go
CBA vs No CBA.
Coaches do have a union, so I'm guessing they have a CBA but it doesn't include this.
When is that not true? If you get into too much debt buying jewelry you can still rig games to make money to pay back the debt. That doesn’t seem specific to sports gambling debt.
True, but if it's "sports gambling" debt, you're much more likely to meet someone willing to make a sports fixing deal with you. Not necessarily the gambling establishment you owe, but a fellow patron.
Easier to trace.
I watched a interview with a formal mafia member. He said that they had refs from all the leagues. The way they got them to start fixing games was to get them in debt from betting on other sports.
Fortunately mafia members never embellish the tales of their criminal past. Especially not the ones who go on VladTV or the SiriusXM radio circuit looking for attention.
You mean that the guys who did crime are also possibly liars??
>formal mafia member What did the informal mafia say?
That they feel disrespected. Just because they don't dress as sharp doesn't mean they shouldn't get respect. They will break your kneecaps just as much as the other guys. Also "casual" mafia is their preferred nomenclature. But as Kevin Durant can attest, giving yourself a nickname just doesn't stick.
Not really. Any gambler knows that you don't just bet only in the sport you are coaching or employed in. And that's a good way to get sucked into a deep hole with a bookie or site. Go back and look at any fixed game controversy.
Seems like a preventive kind of thing since gambling can be pretty addictive, like it starts with basketball but could easily transition into football
The whole point is you can get in a hole and it makes you vulnerable to outside forces. Like “oh we will wipe your debt if you help us out in this Jets game” situation
Not only that last thing the league wants is a coach or player making a bet on a game and some sketchy shit happens
It's a slippery slope that opens up more avenues for people to get away with things. There is less they have to filter through if gambling is strictly, 110% not allowed at any point ever. Than it's simple to find out someone is gambling at all, ban. Instead of this person gambles and have to have someone audit all of their transactions to make sure none of them are NFL related. That's not even scratching the surface of some other shady dealings that could occur with betting on other sports and connections, I bet on your team to do "x", you bet on my team to do "y" and both parties win, sort of underhand dealings. It is far simpler to just eliminate it entirely and be strict with it. They cannot risk it ever being a problem that gets out of hand. It unravels the entire league too quickly and it's already catching flak for the gambling sponsors and the refs having far too much objectivity. They also do not shy away from the fact that this is something that will get you hammered instantly without any remorse. Anybody involved with the NFL has said numerous times that they are very thorough in making sure it's brought up every season multiple times. You cannot be involved at any level and be surprised by this rule.
Yeah, so my brother worked at a major casino-horse racing venue in a production capacity producing/directing the races for casino and online viewers. He was barred from any gambling in our state for 10 years after finishing working at the venue, in any capacity, he couldn’t even play the lottery. That’s also when we found out that if any of our family potentially won the lottery there is a bunch of further restrictions and investigations by lottery/state officials we would be subject to.
Gamble, get in debt, sell inside information/tip plays/ etc it's not a big stretch to see how any sports gambling could become problematic for the league.
Dude took terry’s money so they ousted him
TIL Miles Austin is an NFL coach
I loved him on the team.
Me too, he was underrated.
He was adequately ratted imo, also god damn that chiefs game.
He also scored a long TD in the 2006 wild card game at Seattle. It was probably the first time I remember seeing him.
Nah because I have seen multiple people say Romo made him when he’s probably the best yac receiver we’ve had the last 20 years.
***GODS HE WAS STRONG***
This is only gonna happen more and more with all this gambling bullshit everywhere
Cant listen to a sports podcast without hearing DraftKings or the other companies
Even the official game broadcasts are showing odds and stuff now. It's permeated every aspect of the sport and the content surrounding it.
You can't turn on ANY sport (not just NFL) without seeing pre-game odds before the game & LIVE in-game odds during the game. The industry is fucking huge and almost nobody can beat sports betting.
Just call the Tennessee Redline
Yeah. And Jason Kelce is the only one who immediately advocates against it right after their promos every time. They gotta be paying a ton to them if Jason is doing the ads with how much he dislikes them.
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Online sports gambling is really out of control. I could not watch the World Cup games where I live without being bombarded with sports gambling apps ads (Mexico). Hell, there's even an Official^TM Gambling App for the Mexican National Team.
I agree and I gamble on sports all the time Though tbh I think any advertisement that promotes a potentially addictive vice should be heavily limited
I have several addiction issues I will never touch gambling. With my personality it would literally be speed running ruining my life.
I knew if I really got into it I wouldn’t be able to stop, I did the first time deposit on a couple just for fun but deleted the apps after because I knew if I didn’t it would be a snowball effect
It’s the closest thing I’ve found to cocaine. I’m not joking. The 15 minute dopamine rush when you win/hit a rail, feeling on top of the world, then soon i need another line/game to bet on, then after a bad day/big bender I’m out of money pacing around my living room with absurdly high anxiety. I need to quit both lol.
Yeah at least with spending your money on blow you know your getting the high lol.
I took a trip to Ireland a few years ago to visit family. Sports betting seems to be completely unregulated over there. There are OTB-style sports betting places on every other corner.
I liked it more when it was sketchily done online and it was a bitch to get your payout. Back then it was predominantly smart betting. At least to some extent by sticking to the spread, over/under or the occasional teaser. Nowadays all I hear about is you degenerates trying to hit 16 leg parlays and missing on the last leg. They are stringing you along. That shit is supposed to happen so you're sure to think you'll get it next time. These sportsbooks have this new wave of sports betting fans exactly where they want them. Playing the stupid low odds bets in hopes of hitting it big. Doing it across multiple sports. Degens hoping for such obscure bets too. Like Tyreek Hill going over 81 yards and some fucking movie you've never heard of taking best picture at the Sundance film festival in the same parlay lmao. You guys could be playing blackjack but instead you're getting enticed by the big numbers on the slot machine. But hey, surely next week that 16th leg of your ridiculous parlay will come in lmao.
You laugh, but when Justin Fields throws a TD to a raccoon, Dick Allen bowls 420 series, and Billy Eichner wins best male lead and *Bros.* wins best picture, I’m going to be a billionaire on $69 bet.
Come to Australia where you see the outcome. People pissing away millions on the pokies and on the punt. Gambling adverts on tv for sporting events.
Happy at least they banned advertising the details of the bet offers until you're actually logged into the bookies, something America should look into honestly
It ought to be re-banned IMO. Large-scale gambling on sports is a recipe for fixed/thrown games.
So is Zach Wilson shaving?
No, he doesn't even have pubes yet
I have seen Tom Brady and other NFL guys at the Kentucky Derby. Do they want us to think those guys weren’t gambling on horse racing? Players also play fantasy football for money. What’s the problem?
Imagine you’re Jalen Hurts playing fantasy football. You’re playing in the championship. You’re a Monday night game but your opponent started you. He’s a real dick head so you intentionally throw 5 ints in the first half so that coach benches you. Checkmate
For established starters I wonder what the interception limit is before benching. Like if Brady throws five into in the first half does he get benched? I doubt it. Kyler Murray? Probably
I think 6 in one half would be either benching or “we are not passing at all anymore” level.
> I have seen Tom Brady and other NFL guys at the Kentucky Derby. Idk if it's true for NFL's rules, but in Kentucky, sports betting isn't legal. Horse racing isn't considered sports betting as it's under a parimutuel system rather than against the house.
NFL: Takes a billion dollars from all of the major sports betting companies, advertises gambling in the stadiums and on TV, and one of their stadiums named after Caesars. Also NFL: Oh, you want to use BetMGM to put $50 on the Nets -10.5? Suspended! Edit: Spelling
NFL will not tolerate gambling, but much leniency with sexual assault
The Jaguars should hire him next year, he'll get the best out of Calvin Ridley
I legit forgot he was traded to the Jags
Isn't it exciting
I'm actually excited to watch him with Trevor
They put him on layaway
Longer suspension incoming than the assault of 24+ women.
Longer than Stephen Ross who actually wanted to throw games
I heard he put money on the Colts/Texans game and that's why they're saying he didn't bet on pro football.
That’s weird. If it’s other sports who cares? IIRC some leagues allow players to bet on non their league sports
I’m assuming there is the potential for coaches to get deeper down the rabbit hole with a larger influence on games
I find it so hypocritical that the NFL does this when they show nothing but gambling ads. Go watch any video on their Youtube pages and it's literally nothing but Draftkings, Caeser's and Fanduel ads. It's very obnoxious.
They don’t want their people to get in money trouble from gambling and get lured into game fixing schemes. They don’t give a shit if fans lose their life savings.
13 games for 26 rapes, but a year for gambling on another sport??? You really know what you're doing NFL.
We are a league of morals and integrity, please remember to drink beer and gamble responsibly while watching people turn their brains and bodies to mush.
How does the league even find out this is going on?
The nfl has sources inside the casinos and books just like they have sources inside the league. I’m sure a name was seen on a ticket and it was passed along for further investigation.
I would assume it’s to stop a quid pro quo situation, giving a bball coach tips in return for some
The NFL when disciplining sexual assaulters: I sleep The NFL when disciplining people for betting : Real shit
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All it takes is one dumb shit to bet on a game and some sketchy shit happens and it can hurt the league massively
Or a coach makes a questionable call and then someone who knows them tells a reporter that they're gambling on sports. Even if it turns out to not be NFL games that will be a huge mess.
Exactly. It’s just simply not worth the risk of that happening
> The integrity of the game is clearly the most important thing 😂
Did a double take there. Was like "No way Miles Austin is still in the league" Then I saw the bit about receivers coach. Guess if I was the receivers coach on a team featuring Zach Wilson at QB I'd break a rule or two to get out as well.
He can't bet on other sports? That's so dumb
Oh I didn’t realize it was actually against the policy, that’s still stupid but he should be knowing the policy and following it
The real question is why did Watson only get 11 games and gambling is a full year (or more)?
Thats stupid Gambling on a different sport is not allowed? Lmao okay.. What about them peddling it down everyone’s throats every game? Kids see that and grow to be addicted to gambling
Miles Austin is now coaching for the jets? I haven't heard or read that name in a while
Calvin Ridley's spirit has spread to a team we just beat
The NFL soullessly peddles gambling like literally psychos but suspends a coach for doing it? Hypocritical piles of shit
That’s honestly a bs policy as long as your not betting on football who cares
The Jets front office should be suspended for gambling on Zach Wilson.
Did he bet on FanDuel, Cesears sportsbook Draftkings??? The NFL wont announce that since they are partners with the league.