This giant ass clown is going to cost us so much money. Church, that's what churches are for. This stunt should anger EVERYONE, including and especially Christians. He's not making Christianity better, he's making education worse.
You seem to be talking past each other here. Evangelicals do overwhelmingly support MAGA, eg IIRC it was at an 84% clip nationally in 2020 for Trump. But we can acknowledge not all do, including you u/momofklcg. How much of a difference that 16% can make at this pivotal time remains to be seen. Not sure if you can help some of your fellow evangelicals snap out of their theocratic spell, but we do support you.
Honestly what we need is that extreme minority to come forward and give the rest of us some direction on how to break through. We’re on the outside seeing that 84% go wild for authoritarian theocracy, no idea how we wake them up.
Ryan Walters scares the living hell out of me. And these stupid ideas he has are absolutely asinine. A friend and I had a discussion about this today. She said she didn’t know why I was stressing over this so much since I didn’t have kids in school anymore . I told her these kids that are getting an education right now will be the ones taking care of us in our old age And like I told her also not every child is Christian in the school district. How dare he assume that a teacher can teach my child or grandkids about the Bible better than our church and us.
Then you aren’t evangelical, you just happen to attend an evangelical church or was raised in one like me and just still consider yourself that by default. The evangelical churches I’ve been around and grew up in would ostracize you for even voicing that within hearing distance of their front doors. They absolutely overwhelmingly support this. Any twinge of hesitancy from them would be from the fear that it might allow other religions in also. But they are very willing to take that chance.
I grew up going to a parochial school until jr high. I had to go to chapel every day. I had to wear a dress everyday. In fact boys and girls played on different sides of the field. In my school (this has many years ago) the girls had the home ec type classes, the boys got to do science and wood shop. My family went to the church tied with that school. And there was a priest there. This man was one of the smartest men I had ever met. He wanted the kids to question what we were being told. He made a comment once that Gods words were truth, but humans were fallible. Meaning 3 people can read the same thing and interpret it 3 different ways. As a good Christian we have a responsibility to question it. Don’t just accept it because someone says it. and I think that is what is going on here.
I have a friend that was happy about this idea. I asked her if she was ready to have someone with a different viewpoint than her teach her special needs kids their interpretation of the Bible. Was she ready for a practicing Catholic, to teach her Baptist kids the Bible. Because let me tell you the Bible is the same but the doctrine is different. She had no answer.
And you just proved my point. Who is to say the person that teaches that bible class in school won’t teach about Lilith. I mean they could teach a bible that has missing books in it.
Yes, but also because they can use it to demonize and persecute everyone else. Which will be even easier once the court says evangelical Christianity can be the national religion.
Which will be when someone sues because of bs like this. It’s fast tracked to SCOTUS and they rule in favor of Walters, it becomes law of the land. Just like the rulings today.
I don’t see how this will possibly hold water. Isn’t this a clear violation of separation of church and state? This is just a big waste of time and money and all it serves is to make themselves look not just bad, but stupid. I’d think it was a psyop if it wasn’t so incredibly dumb.
The argument that the Theocrats use when someone brings up the wall of separation between Church and State is “That phrase doesn’t appear anywhere in the Constitution.”
“Congress shall make NO LAW respecting an establishment of religion, “ 1st words of the 1st Amendment, pss, you know, it’s called the Constitution and the Establishment Clause
They want to force a lawsuit against state, then the case can be heard by corrupt SCOTUS to re interpret the 1st amended.
That's why LA passed their stupid 10 commandments law.
Unfortunately there’s plenty of Christians that actually agree with this fool. I’m friends with several pastors and they are totally against it. This isn’t the Middle East.
I agree but unfortunately many many Christian’s want this because they’ve been brainwashed and indoctrinated via their cult for too long.
I’m a Christian and this is destructive to the state and the faith. It’s a losing proposition all the way around.
A few of my more left leaning friends that are teachers are taking this as a challenge. There's some stuff in the Bible that the conservatives ignore that will be absolutely hilarious to talk about... Like donkey dicks and massive ejaculations, abortions, slavery, etc.
Daughters getting dad drunk and having sex with him.
Wearing mixed fibers is wrong.
Planting 2 crops is wrong.
Shellfish is evil. Bashing babies heads into rocks.
Pulling out after sex with sister in law.
Talk about the antichrist and how trump matches it.
“She wanted to have sex with her lovers who had genitals like donkeys and who ejaculated like stallions.”
Ezekiel 23:20 FBV
My very conservative religious zealots family members were applauding this.
The was like so what happens when teach about Oholah and Oholibah.
They immediately said that’s part of the Bible they should be teaching at school
Numbers 5:11-31 tells the story of a test of a wife who’s suspected of being unfaithful. The end result looks a whole lot like the result of a saline solution abortion. Is God a murderer?
While the dirty bits are pretty entertaining, we could use the more progressive bits. There's Jubilee (universal debt forgiveness) and all the stuff about helping the poor the minor prophets wrote about. That doesn't even get to the New Testament.
They should also use the stories of jesus to teach empathy and the golden rule. Conservative's kids could get to learn it is better to give all of your things to the poor or migrants than to keep them, and that you should abandon your parents to feed the poor and downtrodden. Teachers could teach a whole lesson on how the bible demands we treat immigrants like citizens.
This is the best way, use their own law to teach their children how not to grow up to be dickheads and either their parent will rage against this law or their kids will have less of a chance of being the next Ryan Walters.
I feel like the plan here is to cause teachers to walk out so he can replace their positions with sycophants. Problem is, teachers don’t get paid enough to go along with that plan…
Private will still charge, then they will all be full. So where do kids go then?
Private is expensive, and you'll only get what? 3k from the State? Still leaves you on the hook for 10k, at least.
The rich don't care. Kids can go work in the fields/factories/mines as they loosen child labor laws. Less competition for their kids if the less wealthy aren't educated too. They win on many fronts.
This is their plan. The thing they are arguing for really is to make education full privilege. What you can afford dictates what kind of education your kids get.
The cowards can’t say this out loud, so they mask it in mislead language like “school choice”.
What it really means is they (rich, white, Christians) have the choice to educate their children away from poor, non-white, heathens.
Barring the schools actually having to close because of the shortages the republican voters won't care.
And even if they do they'll just blame it on the dems for not allowing them to hire anyone off the street without any qualifications.
The plan here is to distract everyone from his misspending and mismanagement of the office. He was finally facing real consequences from state Congress and AG Drummond. Now most of the state reps will not speak up against him because their constituents support teaching Christianity in schools.
It was a genius move. Even broken clocks are right twice a day.
Secretary of education has to be on his agenda but an ego like that isn't stirring this much shit just so they can snag a job that's harder than the one they already have. He's in it for fame (infamy) and the adoration of christo-fascists. Once he gets his chance he'll make a run.
Either public schools become Christian public schools or they fail as they also will attempt to send tax dollars to religious schools again. 2 pronged attack. Tax dollars to religion away from public schools and force public schools to become religious. Either way they win.
Attorney General Drummond and this piece of shit will be running for governor in 2026. Count on it. Defeating Ryan Walters will come down to the Republican primary. So what can you do? Register Republican and vote in the primary. Encourage your friends and family to do the same. It is the only way we get this state back to any sort of reasonable governance. The Democratic Party in Oklahoma is dead. Put ego aside and let’s get ready to make actual change in this state.
I had a while ago but switched back to dem as all the GOP were loons. I need to switch back form drummond.
When my wife is tired after work she did enjoy telling GOP phone callers they were pro life since against kids they were born and birth control to prevent abortions.
I was more immature and just loudly scream or blast music into phone or keep pretending I can't here until they hang up.
This is a great idea. Also, I just checked and it's actually very easy to change your Oklahoma party affiliation because you can do it all online. I have been a registered Independent voter in Oklahoma for over 40 years but I think I can stand to be a Republican long enough to vote against Walters in his next primary.
I have a feeling that all this talk of "Christian Fascism" is just the "diet" version of whatever these oh- so-persecuted sacks of shit are hoping to shit out on the public. *So* persecuted in fact they're forcing every single classroom in the state to become a literal bible school...but, okay. Fine. Teach from the Bible. Just encourage our teachers to get as donkey dick deep into the scriptures as they possibly can.
Imagine walking into a classroom and, instead of posters *actual* historical illustrations or famous literary quotes or the usual grade school paraphernalia, give visitors the illustrated, raw dog version of the Bible:
**The Rape of Dinah**: where, in Genesis 34, the prince Shechem rapes Dinah, the daughter of Jacob, the patriarch.
**Genocide in Joshua**: where, in Joshua 1-12, the Israelites systematically slaughter the people who were already in the Promised Land.
**The Slaughter of the Innocents**: where, in Matthew 2:13-23, Herod the Great orders the massacre of all male children in Bethlehem and the surrounding area who are two years old and under.
**The Seven Plagues** where, in the book of Revelation, the Earth is struck by seven plagues, including disease, intense heat, drought, and deadly hailstones.
And instead of literature, quote the most profane and sexually explicit verses available, and in cursive.
Don’t forget what Levi did to Shechem to avenge Dinah!
He told Shechem he could marry Dinah, but everyone in the village would need to be circumcised. They happily complied.
The next day when the men were recovering from the mass circumcision, Levi and Simeon went door to door in the village and killed everyone..
Jacob their father, and by extension God, responded with a: “YOU GUYS!” kind of reaction. These are the good guys in the Bible.
As a teacher I have to ask where will the curriculum come from? Are there academic standards? It takes years and millions and millions of dollars to roll out new curriculum and standards. Just getting new math curriculum this year in okcps for only the elementary students is millions of dollars. And then, who's going to be checking on every teacher in every school? Is there some scale of godliness? Even if you are a Christian, do you want someone from a different faith to teach your child about religion? I work with teachers who are Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Muslim, atheist, and agnostic etc. Faith is a personal choice and it's bizarre he wants to strip our children or their freedom. He is so out of touch with what is actually happening in our schools and with our children. He's a pathetic, selfish moron.
He’s forgetting that there is a process, set in law, for revising the Oklahoma Academic Standards. Walters can’t change them independently (although I’m sure he thinks he can). School districts are responsible for teaching the standards, but they decide how the standards are taught (i.e. what textbooks are used, what framework, etc.). Walters has no say in that and to believe otherwise is an overreach of authority that won’t be upheld. He’s simply blowing smoke for more media coverage, and it’s working.
My suggestion for teachers is to email their superintendent and ask how all this is going to impact the classroom next school year. If your district leader is worth a damn, he/she will respond with support for teachers and opposition to Walters.
He knows there is a process and someone's brought it up at OSDE to him I'm sure.
He's testing to see how much authority he can take without any consequences while also providing himself a platform and talking points for future offices.
Walters Church.
Christianity doesn't have many different denominations. There is only the 1 correct interpretation of the Bible. Not like the church has ever had major splits.
Walters Church.
/s
The worst part is that teachers are going to face legal repercussions for not complying with this blatantly unconstitutional mandate, but when this is struck down in court, Walters will face no consequences for his blatant disregard of the constitution and will immediately do it again.
He is still attacking the teacher that showed a link to banned books even though she moved away. He is a religious psycho.
Come from a family of teachers and while the GOP has always attacked it by underfunded Walters is on a whole other crazy level.
Hate what he is doing and legislators do nothing and/or state constitution wasn't built expecting such a loon. As we have seen at other government levels where lots of rules have no consequences if ignore them.
Continuing the dismantling of the public education system so that religious institutions can make money off of regular citizens. Sad state of affairs here and it’s only going to get worse
So few things that I find interesting:
1. No way this will hold up. State Supreme Court or AG will probably intervene pretty quickly.
2. Teachers only have to teach the state standards. None of this shit is currently in the standards.
3. If a teacher refused to teach this on religious grounds and Walters fired them, I would think they'd have reason enough to sue for discrimination based on religion. I'm not a Christian. If I get fired for refusing this shit, you bet your ass I'm going to say it was because I was targeted for my religious beliefs.
4. Walters is just pissy that OK SC struck down St. Isidore and he's scrambling to pander to his ignorant base.
5. Walters is also facing [multiple lawsuits](https://archive.ph/PLWuc) and is trying to distract from those.
6. He's a shill who had no interesting in government until his dad forced him to run. He got linked up with Matt Langston who doesn't even live in OK. Langston is an extremist piece of shit that wants as many right-wing fuck faces in government as possible. He approached Walters and said if he got hired, he'd fund the campaign. [The hiring of Langston is also under investigation](https://kfor.com/news/local/republican-lawmakers-seek-ag-investigation-of-osde-advisor-langston/)
Tl;dr: Walters is a scared piece of shit that has no idea what he's doing so he keeps on trying to come up with more outrageous things to distract from his own problems.
Edit: forgot to add, bombard his office with phone calls and emails. Call your school boards and ask to start the process of banning the Bible on grounds of sexual content, violence, and misogyny. The recent state Supreme Court rulings said that book banning is left up to the individual districts (rightfully so), so they're the ones to contact. Use Walters' bullshit book banning crap against him. The Bible has more porn than any other book in public schools.
Phone: 405-521-3301
He won't answer because he's a coward, but still call and leave messages.
He doesn’t want to put the Bible in classrooms. Because he knows he can’t. He wants to destroy morale among teachers and administrators. Because he knows he can do that.
Jesus christ I'm so tired of thus religious loon fascist.
My kid has1st amendment rights backed by the Constitution and Supreme Court (of course trumps GOP judges don't care about precedent or civil rights).
My kids school isn't your church. Stay out you pedophile protecting groomers.
The precedent of roe being struck down gave these Christian Nationalist such a hard on to strike down all civil rights since they have SC majority.
My daughter is a high school teacher here. A very good one who has received commendations and bonuses for her performance. Her students do well. She CARES about her students. I'm going to hate the long drive to visit her when she moves to another state soon.
Wait, we do t have enough teachers, let’s take the licenses away if they do not comply ( with what is no doubt an illegal requirement) that will fix the teacher shortage for sure.
This is so hare brained all those touching this issue should be fired for incompetence.
My feeling on this (as a Christian): when you force someone to do something, the more they rebel against it. (Personal experience!!)
Forcing kids to learn the Bible will push many to hate it and organized religion.
Look at how much people rebelled against masks.
Also, forcing an atheist to teach the Bible will not get you the results you think you’ll want.
And you’ll deserve it.
Jerk.
🙋♀️ progressive clergy here volunteering to teach your Bible classes. I'm willing to cover topics such as
* Immigration justice and the Bible
* Gospels of Jesus v Christian Nationalism
* Homosexuality isn't a sin (and why so many read it wrong.)
* Why inerrancy may actually be heresy
* Why the state shouldn't be mandating this class.
SIMPLY , let them take action against you, then, SUE them - stating they forced upon you against your freedoms and religion, Christianity, to preach Amid the square like when Jesus was a boy, is sacreligious or as a CATHOLIC that you are not a lay person or you are a WOMAN and not allowed to preach. You will win the lawsuit. You are already protected class. You will win and it will be based on Religious Freedom, how ironic, or moronic at this point. SIMPLY Sue them. YOU WILL WIN.
Just to be clear, a teacher who does this in a public school WILL get in trouble. But a teacher who doesn’t loses their license.
This is how you lose all the teachers.
I am a kindergarten teacher in Oklahoma. I hate Stitt and Walters. If this actually manages to be enforced, I am not putting a bible in my classroom. Absolutely ridiculous and I don't have the time nor do I want to teach religion to my kids. Or I'll be putting up other religious books alongside it to piss these people off. I am not going to indoctrinate children, it is abhorrent. I'm done with this idiot.
Jesus Tapdancing Christ the religious right is stupid. That mindset is in direct opposition to the what the Founding Fathers intended, not to mention unconstitutional.
Another dickless HICK looking for his 15 minutes of fame and his spot on Fox News/Newsmax/fill-in-the-blank 🙄
i.e. -- Scott Pruitt...anyone remember when it was discovered Pruitt was trying to buy used mattresses from one of Trump's Hotels in DC 🤮
If I were a teacher, I'd bring two Bibles to class: one in Braille and one in Aramaic. I'd also display a giant list of other ridiculous Bronze Age superstitions. The most blatant oxymoron in the English language is "religious education."
He said every classroom. I’ve been struggling to find a good verse to use for math class, but I think I found the perfect one that will put those godless mathematicians in their place.
1 Kings 7:23 King James Version (KJV)And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.
If you solve for the coefficient used, you find that the biblical equation for circumference of a circle is 3.0*D, not 2*pi*r, the equation students are currently being indoctrinated with.
Project 2025 streamlines this. Everyone working in the federal govt will be replaced with MAGA loyalists. They will swear an oath to Trump. Not to our country and its laws. Anyone undecided or lefty accelerationists … if he wins… you don’t have to ever be undecided again. There won’t be another fair election. Any lefties who wanna build a utopia from the ashes… technology won’t allow much room for you there. From facial id to being inside of your phone, no movement will ever gain traction. Your leadership will always just… disappear. You might too. This is what it looks like https://www.authoritarianplaybook2025.org/what-we-can-expect-1#federal-law-enforcement-overreach
https://joebiden.com/project2025/
I haven't met one person in this very republican state who thinks this is a good idea. It won't hold. He's a fucking ass clown begging for a vote thinking the ol hillbilly Oklahomans would love this. How very stupid of him. Sit back everyone because this will blow up in his face.
I’d teach the Bible. I’d teach about all the heinous shit done in the name of their god. We’d by god have church. But wouldn’t make any evangelicals happy, I promise you that. We’d talk about how nowhere in the Bible does it say anything about abortion, and we’d talk about all the times their god commanded murdering infants, both in and out of the womb. We would talk about how homosexuality wasn’t included in the Bible until a faulty translation was published. And how it ACTUALLY said pedophilia was bad, and we might ponder upon why that group of Catholic scholars maybe made that mistake at the time… We would talk about eunuchs. We would talk about what a eunuch ACTUALLY was back then, and we might even talk about the priests and priestesses of Inanna were known to be able to transform men into women, by making them eunuchs and drinking the urine of pregnant mares (a very potent source of bio identical estrogen), thus proving that trans people aren’t a new phenomenon. We’d whip out ALL the shit in the Bible that you’d pastors don’t talk about. 💕
So are they going to reissue TLE indicators with Bible teaching rubrics? This was not thought out at all and the timing was to compete with whatever crazy shit the Supreme Court was going to throw down on their way out.
If they start to teach the Bible in schools they need to teach other religions. Cause I know that if they try to push the Bible to no Christians the parents can sue
I keep saying it that guy needs to get voted out or impeached at this point. The Bible belongs in Sunday school and not public school. There is still religious freedom in this country and not everybody is a Christian. Some people like me are not religious at all and we should not be forced to any of that. Ryan Walter's is going to far simple as that.
This directly violates the constitution, because it quite literally goes against freedom of religion, by forcing everyone to learn the Bible regardless of their religion. He’s a clown
And whose version of the Bible are they teaching? Is it supposed to be standardized because I don't even think Christians agree on what Christianity is.
I saw a tiktok about how literature teachers can treat it like any mythology and deconstruct it and look at possible meanings including contradictions.
So, is it like a “mythology” class? We have Greek mythology class here at my kids high school in Cleveland, Ohio. Because it’s not history, or science, or math, it COULD be like an anthropology or social studies class. But… how do they fit this bullshit into a math class?
I am going to get my teaching degree, get a job in Oklahoma and join some off the wall Christian denomination and teach the bible from that perspective. I wonder how long I would last.
There are as many interpretations of the Bible as there are denominations. Are they going to try and tell teachers they Have to teach it a certain way? Do they really want a nonbeliever doing this? I couldn't be anything but sarcastic if they made me do this.
Oklahoma really doubling down on the 46th in education ranking. Your elected leaders are claiming that the bible has historical importance. That should scare every single one of you with a brain.
I warn yall.
If I see that motherfucker take a SINGLE teachers cert over THIS before he takes
SERIAL CHILD MOLESTER
DAVID IRBY'S?
OH Ryan thinks I'm a pest NOW?!? 🤣🤣🤣
He WILL regret this.
The text of the law doesn't say *how* the Bible must be taught, nor does ot say to teach Christianity, likely to forestall the inevitable legal challenges. This means the content of the lesson and the perspective its taught from are entirely the teacher's prerogative. Just saying.
Looks like time for malicious compliance. The Bible has plenty of material to use creatively and still tell the truth to inquiring minds. This is all Walters has. This is the extent of his leadership skill.
Make sure they have a discussion on Ezekiel 23:20
20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses
If you're a Christian and this does not upset you, then I encourage you to really think about the implications of this. Both our constitution and the Bible are clear: Religion and politics do not mesh.
Go let’s take this to the Supreme Court. Ryan Walters is all talk and maybe has action but the higher courts will strike this mofo down. Heck even the AG is about to enter the chat and take down Walters HP points.
Oklahoma voters have voted in (for years) republican candidates to lead this state. The results show... almost dead last in education. This is just a reminder elections have consequences. We will see if OK continues to vote this way. If they do, the way I see it is they like the results.
It’s a bunch of BS, it won’t make education in this state any better and they want to scream about indoctrination here because a drag queen reads a book to a kid…but it’s okay to try a slam a religious book into a child’s teachings!? Unreal! We have the choice, we don’t choose it, we decline sir! Parents can take their children to Sunday school cost free and for the religion that they follow for that type of education
This giant ass clown is going to cost us so much money. Church, that's what churches are for. This stunt should anger EVERYONE, including and especially Christians. He's not making Christianity better, he's making education worse.
This is what the evangelicals want. They love this.
I am an evangelical Christian and I do not want this. This is so wrong. It is not a public schools place to teach the Bible.
Then you’re in an extreme minority and probably in denial about what they actually believe.
I never said I was a good one. You might be very surprised how many of us are against it.
If that’s actually true, stop voting for republicans.
Who says I do.
You seem to be talking past each other here. Evangelicals do overwhelmingly support MAGA, eg IIRC it was at an 84% clip nationally in 2020 for Trump. But we can acknowledge not all do, including you u/momofklcg. How much of a difference that 16% can make at this pivotal time remains to be seen. Not sure if you can help some of your fellow evangelicals snap out of their theocratic spell, but we do support you. Honestly what we need is that extreme minority to come forward and give the rest of us some direction on how to break through. We’re on the outside seeing that 84% go wild for authoritarian theocracy, no idea how we wake them up.
Ryan Walters scares the living hell out of me. And these stupid ideas he has are absolutely asinine. A friend and I had a discussion about this today. She said she didn’t know why I was stressing over this so much since I didn’t have kids in school anymore . I told her these kids that are getting an education right now will be the ones taking care of us in our old age And like I told her also not every child is Christian in the school district. How dare he assume that a teacher can teach my child or grandkids about the Bible better than our church and us.
Not every teacher is Christian. I am so glad I got out of teaching.
Then you aren’t evangelical, you just happen to attend an evangelical church or was raised in one like me and just still consider yourself that by default. The evangelical churches I’ve been around and grew up in would ostracize you for even voicing that within hearing distance of their front doors. They absolutely overwhelmingly support this. Any twinge of hesitancy from them would be from the fear that it might allow other religions in also. But they are very willing to take that chance.
I grew up going to a parochial school until jr high. I had to go to chapel every day. I had to wear a dress everyday. In fact boys and girls played on different sides of the field. In my school (this has many years ago) the girls had the home ec type classes, the boys got to do science and wood shop. My family went to the church tied with that school. And there was a priest there. This man was one of the smartest men I had ever met. He wanted the kids to question what we were being told. He made a comment once that Gods words were truth, but humans were fallible. Meaning 3 people can read the same thing and interpret it 3 different ways. As a good Christian we have a responsibility to question it. Don’t just accept it because someone says it. and I think that is what is going on here. I have a friend that was happy about this idea. I asked her if she was ready to have someone with a different viewpoint than her teach her special needs kids their interpretation of the Bible. Was she ready for a practicing Catholic, to teach her Baptist kids the Bible. Because let me tell you the Bible is the same but the doctrine is different. She had no answer.
The Catholic bible has more books than the Baptist (Protestant)Bible, so it’s not even the same Bible!
And you just proved my point. Who is to say the person that teaches that bible class in school won’t teach about Lilith. I mean they could teach a bible that has missing books in it.
So they can say, why are you persecuting me?
Yes, but also because they can use it to demonize and persecute everyone else. Which will be even easier once the court says evangelical Christianity can be the national religion.
Which will be when someone sues because of bs like this. It’s fast tracked to SCOTUS and they rule in favor of Walters, it becomes law of the land. Just like the rulings today.
Yes, this is literally a "taking my freedom to have slaves" type of mentality.
Very simple, more rubes to take advantage of. More belivers more money.
That’s the point. GOPers do this with the sole intention of adding another way to bankrupt the government so it can’t function.
Isn't OK ranked at the bottom when it comes to K-12 education?
49th. Next year probably 50.
Is there a negative ranking?
After this fiasco it won't even get a rank...
I don’t see how this will possibly hold water. Isn’t this a clear violation of separation of church and state? This is just a big waste of time and money and all it serves is to make themselves look not just bad, but stupid. I’d think it was a psyop if it wasn’t so incredibly dumb.
The argument that the Theocrats use when someone brings up the wall of separation between Church and State is “That phrase doesn’t appear anywhere in the Constitution.”
“Congress shall make NO LAW respecting an establishment of religion, “ 1st words of the 1st Amendment, pss, you know, it’s called the Constitution and the Establishment Clause
Tying up the court system too.
It won't, but he's only doing it to make national headlines, so he doesn't care. Media whore.
They want to force a lawsuit against state, then the case can be heard by corrupt SCOTUS to re interpret the 1st amended. That's why LA passed their stupid 10 commandments law.
Unfortunately there’s plenty of Christians that actually agree with this fool. I’m friends with several pastors and they are totally against it. This isn’t the Middle East.
The thing is, people of faith, LEADERS of faith need to speak out against this.
He doesn't care how much it costs. He wants it to go to the Supreme Court where there is a good chance it will be upheld.
I agree but unfortunately many many Christian’s want this because they’ve been brainwashed and indoctrinated via their cult for too long. I’m a Christian and this is destructive to the state and the faith. It’s a losing proposition all the way around.
A few of my more left leaning friends that are teachers are taking this as a challenge. There's some stuff in the Bible that the conservatives ignore that will be absolutely hilarious to talk about... Like donkey dicks and massive ejaculations, abortions, slavery, etc.
Daughters getting dad drunk and having sex with him. Wearing mixed fibers is wrong. Planting 2 crops is wrong. Shellfish is evil. Bashing babies heads into rocks. Pulling out after sex with sister in law. Talk about the antichrist and how trump matches it.
And then explaining “pulling out”.
Awx?
He helped them hook their iPod to a stereo?
That New New Testament.
Would there be a way to tie it back to CRT?
Matthew 15:21-28 maybe, talks about non Jews being less than human, but Jesus treating them anyway. Might be able to work race relations into that.
Absolutely are. Half of the New Testament would be considered CRT.
CRT is just another clickbait bs that’s not taught in K-12. Signed retired History and Government teacher
“She wanted to have sex with her lovers who had genitals like donkeys and who ejaculated like stallions.” Ezekiel 23:20 FBV My very conservative religious zealots family members were applauding this. The was like so what happens when teach about Oholah and Oholibah. They immediately said that’s part of the Bible they should be teaching at school
Romans 13:7 basically just says “pay your fucking taxes” and some conservatives would rather fight the moon than admit that.
Numbers 5:11-31 tells the story of a test of a wife who’s suspected of being unfaithful. The end result looks a whole lot like the result of a saline solution abortion. Is God a murderer?
While the dirty bits are pretty entertaining, we could use the more progressive bits. There's Jubilee (universal debt forgiveness) and all the stuff about helping the poor the minor prophets wrote about. That doesn't even get to the New Testament.
They should also use the stories of jesus to teach empathy and the golden rule. Conservative's kids could get to learn it is better to give all of your things to the poor or migrants than to keep them, and that you should abandon your parents to feed the poor and downtrodden. Teachers could teach a whole lesson on how the bible demands we treat immigrants like citizens.
This is the best way, use their own law to teach their children how not to grow up to be dickheads and either their parent will rage against this law or their kids will have less of a chance of being the next Ryan Walters.
Malicious compliance!
I feel like the plan here is to cause teachers to walk out so he can replace their positions with sycophants. Problem is, teachers don’t get paid enough to go along with that plan…
If public schools fail, gives them what they need to move it all private.
Private will still charge, then they will all be full. So where do kids go then? Private is expensive, and you'll only get what? 3k from the State? Still leaves you on the hook for 10k, at least.
The rich don't care. Kids can go work in the fields/factories/mines as they loosen child labor laws. Less competition for their kids if the less wealthy aren't educated too. They win on many fronts.
We can’t allow this shit to happen in this country!
This is their plan. The thing they are arguing for really is to make education full privilege. What you can afford dictates what kind of education your kids get. The cowards can’t say this out loud, so they mask it in mislead language like “school choice”. What it really means is they (rich, white, Christians) have the choice to educate their children away from poor, non-white, heathens.
Barring the schools actually having to close because of the shortages the republican voters won't care. And even if they do they'll just blame it on the dems for not allowing them to hire anyone off the street without any qualifications.
The plan here is to distract everyone from his misspending and mismanagement of the office. He was finally facing real consequences from state Congress and AG Drummond. Now most of the state reps will not speak up against him because their constituents support teaching Christianity in schools. It was a genius move. Even broken clocks are right twice a day.
I think the plan is to hell with his current career because he's going for president or smthng
Trumps head of education. Or just send up cases to GOPs Supreme Court to help him and the heritage foundation.
Secretary of education has to be on his agenda but an ego like that isn't stirring this much shit just so they can snag a job that's harder than the one they already have. He's in it for fame (infamy) and the adoration of christo-fascists. Once he gets his chance he'll make a run.
Either public schools become Christian public schools or they fail as they also will attempt to send tax dollars to religious schools again. 2 pronged attack. Tax dollars to religion away from public schools and force public schools to become religious. Either way they win.
My public school taught me how to put a thought together.
More teachers leave, shutdown that public school, turn it private and Christian.
Yes. Untrained in teaching, sycophants that is.
Attorney General Drummond and this piece of shit will be running for governor in 2026. Count on it. Defeating Ryan Walters will come down to the Republican primary. So what can you do? Register Republican and vote in the primary. Encourage your friends and family to do the same. It is the only way we get this state back to any sort of reasonable governance. The Democratic Party in Oklahoma is dead. Put ego aside and let’s get ready to make actual change in this state.
Two years before that we know he WILL become governor. We all know that every governor will be worse than the ones before it.
Walters is beatable in the primary, not in the general.
We’ll see. Knowing how this state is, him loosing will be from luck
I had a while ago but switched back to dem as all the GOP were loons. I need to switch back form drummond. When my wife is tired after work she did enjoy telling GOP phone callers they were pro life since against kids they were born and birth control to prevent abortions. I was more immature and just loudly scream or blast music into phone or keep pretending I can't here until they hang up.
This is a great idea. Also, I just checked and it's actually very easy to change your Oklahoma party affiliation because you can do it all online. I have been a registered Independent voter in Oklahoma for over 40 years but I think I can stand to be a Republican long enough to vote against Walters in his next primary.
Man, this steady walk towards Christian fascism is awful.
I have a feeling that all this talk of "Christian Fascism" is just the "diet" version of whatever these oh- so-persecuted sacks of shit are hoping to shit out on the public. *So* persecuted in fact they're forcing every single classroom in the state to become a literal bible school...but, okay. Fine. Teach from the Bible. Just encourage our teachers to get as donkey dick deep into the scriptures as they possibly can. Imagine walking into a classroom and, instead of posters *actual* historical illustrations or famous literary quotes or the usual grade school paraphernalia, give visitors the illustrated, raw dog version of the Bible: **The Rape of Dinah**: where, in Genesis 34, the prince Shechem rapes Dinah, the daughter of Jacob, the patriarch. **Genocide in Joshua**: where, in Joshua 1-12, the Israelites systematically slaughter the people who were already in the Promised Land. **The Slaughter of the Innocents**: where, in Matthew 2:13-23, Herod the Great orders the massacre of all male children in Bethlehem and the surrounding area who are two years old and under. **The Seven Plagues** where, in the book of Revelation, the Earth is struck by seven plagues, including disease, intense heat, drought, and deadly hailstones. And instead of literature, quote the most profane and sexually explicit verses available, and in cursive.
Don’t forget what Levi did to Shechem to avenge Dinah! He told Shechem he could marry Dinah, but everyone in the village would need to be circumcised. They happily complied. The next day when the men were recovering from the mass circumcision, Levi and Simeon went door to door in the village and killed everyone.. Jacob their father, and by extension God, responded with a: “YOU GUYS!” kind of reaction. These are the good guys in the Bible.
It feels more like a desperate sprint than a steady walk.
As a teacher I have to ask where will the curriculum come from? Are there academic standards? It takes years and millions and millions of dollars to roll out new curriculum and standards. Just getting new math curriculum this year in okcps for only the elementary students is millions of dollars. And then, who's going to be checking on every teacher in every school? Is there some scale of godliness? Even if you are a Christian, do you want someone from a different faith to teach your child about religion? I work with teachers who are Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Muslim, atheist, and agnostic etc. Faith is a personal choice and it's bizarre he wants to strip our children or their freedom. He is so out of touch with what is actually happening in our schools and with our children. He's a pathetic, selfish moron.
He’s forgetting that there is a process, set in law, for revising the Oklahoma Academic Standards. Walters can’t change them independently (although I’m sure he thinks he can). School districts are responsible for teaching the standards, but they decide how the standards are taught (i.e. what textbooks are used, what framework, etc.). Walters has no say in that and to believe otherwise is an overreach of authority that won’t be upheld. He’s simply blowing smoke for more media coverage, and it’s working. My suggestion for teachers is to email their superintendent and ask how all this is going to impact the classroom next school year. If your district leader is worth a damn, he/she will respond with support for teachers and opposition to Walters.
He knows there is a process and someone's brought it up at OSDE to him I'm sure. He's testing to see how much authority he can take without any consequences while also providing himself a platform and talking points for future offices.
Walters Church. Christianity doesn't have many different denominations. There is only the 1 correct interpretation of the Bible. Not like the church has ever had major splits. Walters Church. /s
Whatever the source it will surely be a laundering scheme to pay back or pay off friends of the administration.
The worst part is that teachers are going to face legal repercussions for not complying with this blatantly unconstitutional mandate, but when this is struck down in court, Walters will face no consequences for his blatant disregard of the constitution and will immediately do it again.
He is still attacking the teacher that showed a link to banned books even though she moved away. He is a religious psycho. Come from a family of teachers and while the GOP has always attacked it by underfunded Walters is on a whole other crazy level. Hate what he is doing and legislators do nothing and/or state constitution wasn't built expecting such a loon. As we have seen at other government levels where lots of rules have no consequences if ignore them.
Continuing the dismantling of the public education system so that religious institutions can make money off of regular citizens. Sad state of affairs here and it’s only going to get worse
Guess I’ll be out of job soon.
Same.
Same
Retired before the batshit loser came into office
Me too. I’m not doing this bullshit. Fuck him.
Hi, I’m Wyan Walters and I don’t won’t anyone to know I love mansex, so I punish everyone.
I bet he's even more into man-bear-pig sex.
So few things that I find interesting: 1. No way this will hold up. State Supreme Court or AG will probably intervene pretty quickly. 2. Teachers only have to teach the state standards. None of this shit is currently in the standards. 3. If a teacher refused to teach this on religious grounds and Walters fired them, I would think they'd have reason enough to sue for discrimination based on religion. I'm not a Christian. If I get fired for refusing this shit, you bet your ass I'm going to say it was because I was targeted for my religious beliefs. 4. Walters is just pissy that OK SC struck down St. Isidore and he's scrambling to pander to his ignorant base. 5. Walters is also facing [multiple lawsuits](https://archive.ph/PLWuc) and is trying to distract from those. 6. He's a shill who had no interesting in government until his dad forced him to run. He got linked up with Matt Langston who doesn't even live in OK. Langston is an extremist piece of shit that wants as many right-wing fuck faces in government as possible. He approached Walters and said if he got hired, he'd fund the campaign. [The hiring of Langston is also under investigation](https://kfor.com/news/local/republican-lawmakers-seek-ag-investigation-of-osde-advisor-langston/) Tl;dr: Walters is a scared piece of shit that has no idea what he's doing so he keeps on trying to come up with more outrageous things to distract from his own problems. Edit: forgot to add, bombard his office with phone calls and emails. Call your school boards and ask to start the process of banning the Bible on grounds of sexual content, violence, and misogyny. The recent state Supreme Court rulings said that book banning is left up to the individual districts (rightfully so), so they're the ones to contact. Use Walters' bullshit book banning crap against him. The Bible has more porn than any other book in public schools. Phone: 405-521-3301 He won't answer because he's a coward, but still call and leave messages.
Thinking of coming out of retirement and finding a position, then not being compliant. I want to file a lawsuit against this moron so badly.
He doesn’t want to put the Bible in classrooms. Because he knows he can’t. He wants to destroy morale among teachers and administrators. Because he knows he can do that.
Jesus christ I'm so tired of thus religious loon fascist. My kid has1st amendment rights backed by the Constitution and Supreme Court (of course trumps GOP judges don't care about precedent or civil rights). My kids school isn't your church. Stay out you pedophile protecting groomers. The precedent of roe being struck down gave these Christian Nationalist such a hard on to strike down all civil rights since they have SC majority.
My daughter is a high school teacher here. A very good one who has received commendations and bonuses for her performance. Her students do well. She CARES about her students. I'm going to hate the long drive to visit her when she moves to another state soon.
Wait, we do t have enough teachers, let’s take the licenses away if they do not comply ( with what is no doubt an illegal requirement) that will fix the teacher shortage for sure. This is so hare brained all those touching this issue should be fired for incompetence.
My feeling on this (as a Christian): when you force someone to do something, the more they rebel against it. (Personal experience!!) Forcing kids to learn the Bible will push many to hate it and organized religion. Look at how much people rebelled against masks. Also, forcing an atheist to teach the Bible will not get you the results you think you’ll want. And you’ll deserve it. Jerk.
🙋♀️ progressive clergy here volunteering to teach your Bible classes. I'm willing to cover topics such as * Immigration justice and the Bible * Gospels of Jesus v Christian Nationalism * Homosexuality isn't a sin (and why so many read it wrong.) * Why inerrancy may actually be heresy * Why the state shouldn't be mandating this class.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Christian Nationalism exactly what Satan promised Christ when he tempted him in the Wilderness?
SIMPLY , let them take action against you, then, SUE them - stating they forced upon you against your freedoms and religion, Christianity, to preach Amid the square like when Jesus was a boy, is sacreligious or as a CATHOLIC that you are not a lay person or you are a WOMAN and not allowed to preach. You will win the lawsuit. You are already protected class. You will win and it will be based on Religious Freedom, how ironic, or moronic at this point. SIMPLY Sue them. YOU WILL WIN.
Just some blatant Christofascism, and absolute assault on public education — and who suffers? The children. Pro-life my ass.
*He says, as if there isn’t already a teacher shortage*
Just to be clear, a teacher who does this in a public school WILL get in trouble. But a teacher who doesn’t loses their license. This is how you lose all the teachers.
This is ridiculous. Keep school at school, and church at church.
Fucking FUCK RYAN WALTERS!!!!
 Fuck you, I won’t do what you tell me
Dopest name ever*
Get ready for more teachers to leave the state. They were already leaving bc the state doesn't pay them enough
I am a kindergarten teacher in Oklahoma. I hate Stitt and Walters. If this actually manages to be enforced, I am not putting a bible in my classroom. Absolutely ridiculous and I don't have the time nor do I want to teach religion to my kids. Or I'll be putting up other religious books alongside it to piss these people off. I am not going to indoctrinate children, it is abhorrent. I'm done with this idiot.
That's ok. They would have to fire me. I would then get to sue them.
Can we challenge him to a duel yet?
Companies don’t come to the state due to behaviors like this.
Alan Dershowitz just schooled Walter's on Cuomo show. He was looking very uncomfortable
Is there a clip?
https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/education/oklahoma-public-schools-bible/
Here you go! https://youtu.be/MTyFBne143I?si=dO7MDSHz1WB4riWE
Jesus Tapdancing Christ the religious right is stupid. That mindset is in direct opposition to the what the Founding Fathers intended, not to mention unconstitutional.
Another dickless HICK looking for his 15 minutes of fame and his spot on Fox News/Newsmax/fill-in-the-blank 🙄 i.e. -- Scott Pruitt...anyone remember when it was discovered Pruitt was trying to buy used mattresses from one of Trump's Hotels in DC 🤮
If I were a teacher, I'd bring two Bibles to class: one in Braille and one in Aramaic. I'd also display a giant list of other ridiculous Bronze Age superstitions. The most blatant oxymoron in the English language is "religious education."
So does High School trigonometry teach math or the bible?
He said every classroom. I’ve been struggling to find a good verse to use for math class, but I think I found the perfect one that will put those godless mathematicians in their place. 1 Kings 7:23 King James Version (KJV)And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about. If you solve for the coefficient used, you find that the biblical equation for circumference of a circle is 3.0*D, not 2*pi*r, the equation students are currently being indoctrinated with.
r/Defeat_Project_2025 VOTE
Project 2025 streamlines this. Everyone working in the federal govt will be replaced with MAGA loyalists. They will swear an oath to Trump. Not to our country and its laws. Anyone undecided or lefty accelerationists … if he wins… you don’t have to ever be undecided again. There won’t be another fair election. Any lefties who wanna build a utopia from the ashes… technology won’t allow much room for you there. From facial id to being inside of your phone, no movement will ever gain traction. Your leadership will always just… disappear. You might too. This is what it looks like https://www.authoritarianplaybook2025.org/what-we-can-expect-1#federal-law-enforcement-overreach https://joebiden.com/project2025/
Clown show.
Fuck you, Wally.
This guy cheated on his wife with another teacher and she cheated on him with a coffee shop owner. Some fucking Christian this loser is.
Do they get to choose which parts they teach?
The entire state is going to have the worst education ín the *world*, not just for the united states at this rate.
I haven't met one person in this very republican state who thinks this is a good idea. It won't hold. He's a fucking ass clown begging for a vote thinking the ol hillbilly Oklahomans would love this. How very stupid of him. Sit back everyone because this will blow up in his face.
Giant Ass Clown…. You think there’s a teacher shortage now?
How about this? Malicious compliance. Teach what the Bible says, teach what the Koran says, what Buddhism says, etc. Make it not about just one POV.
He is climbing the political ladder. This behavior is only for his resume.
What an embarrassing POS, makes us all look like simpletons
For anyone who has read the works of Robert Heinlen, this is totally not a suprise.
I’d teach the Bible. I’d teach about all the heinous shit done in the name of their god. We’d by god have church. But wouldn’t make any evangelicals happy, I promise you that. We’d talk about how nowhere in the Bible does it say anything about abortion, and we’d talk about all the times their god commanded murdering infants, both in and out of the womb. We would talk about how homosexuality wasn’t included in the Bible until a faulty translation was published. And how it ACTUALLY said pedophilia was bad, and we might ponder upon why that group of Catholic scholars maybe made that mistake at the time… We would talk about eunuchs. We would talk about what a eunuch ACTUALLY was back then, and we might even talk about the priests and priestesses of Inanna were known to be able to transform men into women, by making them eunuchs and drinking the urine of pregnant mares (a very potent source of bio identical estrogen), thus proving that trans people aren’t a new phenomenon. We’d whip out ALL the shit in the Bible that you’d pastors don’t talk about. 💕
Project 2025 is slowly coming to our doorstep as red states are becoming the proving grounds .
Thank god the Jefferson Bible is a thing.
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Talk to and support your local district superintendents.
Super glad I bailed on Oklahoma and moved to New Mexico.
So are they going to reissue TLE indicators with Bible teaching rubrics? This was not thought out at all and the timing was to compete with whatever crazy shit the Supreme Court was going to throw down on their way out.
If they start to teach the Bible in schools they need to teach other religions. Cause I know that if they try to push the Bible to no Christians the parents can sue
thought that it was illegal to like, teach it in the way he obviously wants it to be taught lol unless its a specific type of private school
I keep saying it that guy needs to get voted out or impeached at this point. The Bible belongs in Sunday school and not public school. There is still religious freedom in this country and not everybody is a Christian. Some people like me are not religious at all and we should not be forced to any of that. Ryan Walter's is going to far simple as that.
This directly violates the constitution, because it quite literally goes against freedom of religion, by forcing everyone to learn the Bible regardless of their religion. He’s a clown
And whose version of the Bible are they teaching? Is it supposed to be standardized because I don't even think Christians agree on what Christianity is.
Authoritarian as fuck.
Well I guess you can say “mission success”. Thanks to these stunts I’m learning all about the Bible and donkey balls.
I saw a tiktok about how literature teachers can treat it like any mythology and deconstruct it and look at possible meanings including contradictions.
It’s time to start taxing the churches
If I were an Oklahoma teacher I'd put in a 30-day quit notice and then burn a Bible on my last day teaching.
And .... that's what they want. Replace u with someone more aligned with their goals.
If we had issues getting educators to be educators, this will kill it.
The right is just getting crazier
So, is it like a “mythology” class? We have Greek mythology class here at my kids high school in Cleveland, Ohio. Because it’s not history, or science, or math, it COULD be like an anthropology or social studies class. But… how do they fit this bullshit into a math class?
I am going to get my teaching degree, get a job in Oklahoma and join some off the wall Christian denomination and teach the bible from that perspective. I wonder how long I would last.
Is there any way to impeach or get this man removed?
I’d love to see a teacher refuse, get fired, and sue under the 1st amendment.
Hear me out: This is actually a good thing. By teaching the Bible, we'll be creating a whole new generation of atheists.
He’s just an evangelist getting the radicals riled up. His mandates aren’t legal.
There are as many interpretations of the Bible as there are denominations. Are they going to try and tell teachers they Have to teach it a certain way? Do they really want a nonbeliever doing this? I couldn't be anything but sarcastic if they made me do this.
Imma go watch the YouTube clip of Cuomo taking the clown to "school"...
Let’s all start subbing at schools! I think I finally found something I would love and magats will hate. But hey, it is their stupid law.
Religion should be a personal choice and not a government edict. Keep your superstition out of schools.
Dudes over stepping his bounds big time. Hopefully the teachers union takes his ass to court over this entire debacle.
Oklahoma really doubling down on the 46th in education ranking. Your elected leaders are claiming that the bible has historical importance. That should scare every single one of you with a brain.
OK then just teach the kids that's it is OK for daughters to have sex with their father just like Lot.
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Effing Handmaids Tale wet dream..
I warn yall. If I see that motherfucker take a SINGLE teachers cert over THIS before he takes SERIAL CHILD MOLESTER DAVID IRBY'S? OH Ryan thinks I'm a pest NOW?!? 🤣🤣🤣 He WILL regret this.
The text of the law doesn't say *how* the Bible must be taught, nor does ot say to teach Christianity, likely to forestall the inevitable legal challenges. This means the content of the lesson and the perspective its taught from are entirely the teacher's prerogative. Just saying.
Sometimes, violence IS the answer. He's gone too far.
Start teaching every dark and nightmare inducing aspect… you know the assclown has not put forward any actual curriculum…
Looks like time for malicious compliance. The Bible has plenty of material to use creatively and still tell the truth to inquiring minds. This is all Walters has. This is the extent of his leadership skill.
Make sure they have a discussion on Ezekiel 23:20 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses
Christian Taliban
If I was a teacher, I would take that as a challenge to teach from the Quran and Torah as well!
this is probably an easy way of turning kids into atheists at an early age
As stupid as human beings can become. The world is laughing at Oklahoma and Louisiana.
If you're a Christian and this does not upset you, then I encourage you to really think about the implications of this. Both our constitution and the Bible are clear: Religion and politics do not mesh.
Go let’s take this to the Supreme Court. Ryan Walters is all talk and maybe has action but the higher courts will strike this mofo down. Heck even the AG is about to enter the chat and take down Walters HP points.
Oklahoma voters have voted in (for years) republican candidates to lead this state. The results show... almost dead last in education. This is just a reminder elections have consequences. We will see if OK continues to vote this way. If they do, the way I see it is they like the results.
It’s a bunch of BS, it won’t make education in this state any better and they want to scream about indoctrination here because a drag queen reads a book to a kid…but it’s okay to try a slam a religious book into a child’s teachings!? Unreal! We have the choice, we don’t choose it, we decline sir! Parents can take their children to Sunday school cost free and for the religion that they follow for that type of education