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Nice! I did something similar but with the 0-9 twice d10
I got mine on eBay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/372972731959?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=gqvArKe9S62&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=2wbF7BzCRSG&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Love this, a very silly prompt with solid reasoning.
Major improvement with the added d10! That’s going to be *actually comprehendible* as opposed to the underlined d2*10 that came in the box.
Only thing you’re missing is a crayon!
Chessex started selling a similar multicolored set specifically for beginner players recently:
[https://www.chessex.com/25499](https://www.chessex.com/25499)
since they’re all opaque it’s very inexpensive, but they have a translucent multicolored set as well. I highly recommend them.
Worth every last penny, too. Razor sharp edges, durable as all get out, and dead ringers for the originals right down to the font. You won't get anywhere near that level of quality and precision from your everyday disposable Chessex rock tumbler fodder. It's a set you buy for life.
Hard agree. I spent an embarrassing amount of money on a few dozen sets of similar, old-school inspired dice. I love them. I could just buy whatever, but they capture my imagination and I have all the dice I need for the rest of my life (plus gifts for my friends!)
Unless you are charting every single roll for thousands of rolls, you will never notice any difference between decently made resin dice and "properly random" dice.
Come on now, I struggle to believe that sharp edges increase randomness, or if it somehow does (Beyond what can be achieved by saying, shaking the die in your hand), that it would make a difference noticeable to the human eye when playing an RPG.
It does. If tumbling dice removed material from all faces and edges uniformly it wouldn’t affect randomness. But it doesn’t. Thus tumbled dice will always favor certain faces.
This is why Lou Zocchi makes his dice the way he does. He’s run the numbers and shown that tumbled dice do in fact favor certain faces and he can even show it to the naked eye. One tumbled d20 in isolation is going to look fine. But a bunch stacked on top of one another next to a stack of untumbled dice reveals their unevenness.
This is also why state gaming commissions require craps dice to be milled rather than cast and retired very frequently. Just the actions of players shaking dice together and throwing them repeatedly on the comparatively soft surface of a craps table is enough to start wearing them and render them insufficiently random for gambling purposes. And if you’ve ever shot craps at a casino you know those dice are sharp.
Hmm that's interesting, but I think it's a bit too 'perfectionist' in reality.
Normal dice are totally fine, and this, to me, seems monstrously overpriced for an incredibly marginal benefit.
But if it does it for you, then whatever floats your boat!
When dice are polished down to have rounded edges by placing them into a rock tumbler, the wear they experience is never fully uniform. Different faces wear slightly differently, which has a statistically measurable effect on the outcomes of rolls. This means that it's not all just superstition: Some round-edged dice really do have a tendency to roll high or low (or just particular numbers in-between) more often than chance alone would dictate.
In short, sharp-edged dice are "fairer," as evidenced by the fact that their use is mandatory in casinos.
They do seem to sell out quick. They generally announce upcoming batches, though. I know there was one last month. Following them (there's an email list and FB) is the best way to get a heads-up and place an order in time.
The blue are what remains from my 1979 basic set, and the red are from my 1983 basic set for BECMI. I have never seen multi color dice in a box set. What set did the do that?
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Holmes basic, from 1977. OP erroneously calls it Blue box, a common mistake, because it has a multicolor box and blue *book* with a blue monochrome version of the same image as the box. Combine that with the custom of referring to BECMI sets by box color and you can see why people reflexively call Holmes basic that.
I picked up a couple of retro sets from Threshold Dice a few years ago! They are polyurethane and wonderful! I picked up an extra uninked d6 so I could colour it in white for d66 tables. I even picked up a pink d20 for rolling percentile!
https://preview.redd.it/xo8h9sa118ad1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b99165968c1755aa1f035b9bf8e711d0362a12cb
... why has it never occurred to me to have each dice size a different colour? That makes so much sense, especially for differentiating d8 vs d10 and d12 vs d20. I might have to pick a colour for each die size and get a nice set for each.
there are quite a few "nerd stores" in Budapest that sell board games, Warhammer minis and paints, fantasy books, etc. They usually have a box of unsorted dice, and you can dig through it to find what you need. It only took me two stores to get all of them, and then I painted the numbers black with a sharpie.
I have one of the original sets and the d20 (properly colored red and black!) is almost a sphere now.
it says a lot about this hobby that we have pieces reaching that level of wear
It also says a lot about the quality of the original plastic used
Yeah, they were shit. Mine were chipped and rounded within weeks/months.
I've had them for a very long time
Please post a pic!!! 🙏
I'll try to remember to do that soon.
https://preview.redd.it/mi666fnzp5ad1.png?width=2417&format=png&auto=webp&s=cce94afd6af4350d30915c47809d4fc39e33e0eb Nice! I did something similar but with the 0-9 twice d10
Where can you get the 0-9 twice d20s? I keep looking for them but can’t seem to actually find any that aren’t ancient, overpriced originals.
I got mine on eBay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/372972731959?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=gqvArKe9S62&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=2wbF7BzCRSG&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Think chessex as well? If you can’t get a 0-9 still you can get like four sets of the basic dice for 18.09 though. I just did!
Classic. Looks great! This is how I make my dice in Foundry.
Good idea
Love this, a very silly prompt with solid reasoning. Major improvement with the added d10! That’s going to be *actually comprehendible* as opposed to the underlined d2*10 that came in the box. Only thing you’re missing is a crayon!
Chessex started selling a similar multicolored set specifically for beginner players recently: [https://www.chessex.com/25499](https://www.chessex.com/25499) since they’re all opaque it’s very inexpensive, but they have a translucent multicolored set as well. I highly recommend them.
Nice! I swear by [this set](https://thresholddiceworks.net/products/holmes-retro-full-monte-set), myself. Best dice I've ever owned.
40 quid?? Jesus fuck. Just go into a hobby shop and go through their massive pots of dice till you get something about right.
Worth every last penny, too. Razor sharp edges, durable as all get out, and dead ringers for the originals right down to the font. You won't get anywhere near that level of quality and precision from your everyday disposable Chessex rock tumbler fodder. It's a set you buy for life.
Hard agree. I spent an embarrassing amount of money on a few dozen sets of similar, old-school inspired dice. I love them. I could just buy whatever, but they capture my imagination and I have all the dice I need for the rest of my life (plus gifts for my friends!)
Respectfully, hard disagree. I'm not even a fan of sharp dice, but to each their own I guess.
If you ever get a chance to handle some in person, give 'em a roll. You may just find them working their One Ring-esque mojo on you. ;)
No, they're spiky and rough and they get everywhere.
They’re also properly random, unlike dice that have had the sharp edges tumbled off.
Unless you are charting every single roll for thousands of rolls, you will never notice any difference between decently made resin dice and "properly random" dice.
Come on now, I struggle to believe that sharp edges increase randomness, or if it somehow does (Beyond what can be achieved by saying, shaking the die in your hand), that it would make a difference noticeable to the human eye when playing an RPG.
It does. If tumbling dice removed material from all faces and edges uniformly it wouldn’t affect randomness. But it doesn’t. Thus tumbled dice will always favor certain faces. This is why Lou Zocchi makes his dice the way he does. He’s run the numbers and shown that tumbled dice do in fact favor certain faces and he can even show it to the naked eye. One tumbled d20 in isolation is going to look fine. But a bunch stacked on top of one another next to a stack of untumbled dice reveals their unevenness. This is also why state gaming commissions require craps dice to be milled rather than cast and retired very frequently. Just the actions of players shaking dice together and throwing them repeatedly on the comparatively soft surface of a craps table is enough to start wearing them and render them insufficiently random for gambling purposes. And if you’ve ever shot craps at a casino you know those dice are sharp.
Hmm that's interesting, but I think it's a bit too 'perfectionist' in reality. Normal dice are totally fine, and this, to me, seems monstrously overpriced for an incredibly marginal benefit. But if it does it for you, then whatever floats your boat!
Lou Zocchi explains it in detail. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXZbdZNuRIw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ-A5Ec-Ybs
> Razor sharp edges How is this a plus?
When dice are polished down to have rounded edges by placing them into a rock tumbler, the wear they experience is never fully uniform. Different faces wear slightly differently, which has a statistically measurable effect on the outcomes of rolls. This means that it's not all just superstition: Some round-edged dice really do have a tendency to roll high or low (or just particular numbers in-between) more often than chance alone would dictate. In short, sharp-edged dice are "fairer," as evidenced by the fact that their use is mandatory in casinos.
I've had a similar set for like 15 years and they still look like I just took them out of the box (or bag, I guess).
You da real mvp!
Is there any rhyme or reason for when these become available? I've got the cash, but they're always "sold out" whenever I look for them.
They do seem to sell out quick. They generally announce upcoming batches, though. I know there was one last month. Following them (there's an email list and FB) is the best way to get a heads-up and place an order in time.
Follow his Facebook page - he used to, and still does, announce restocks there first.
He used to announce restocks there. He still does, but he used to, too.
Follow his Facebook. He announces each run in advance.
the BECMI d4 has the definitive number placement, as also sold on their site
I do like the BECMI set, too. I've considered grabbing one.
[This](https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/57229/fanroll-reveals-three-new-d-d-50th-anniversary-dice-sets) is coming out soon too.
Seconded. My favorite set that I own. Well worth the cost.
SOLD OUT :O\
Between batches, it seems.
He recently announced a new batch is coming. Go follow him for updates.
Have a set of these myself, back from when he was doing the sales via invoices through Facebook. They still look as-new.
I bought a set of these and they are almost perfect recreations of my originals. The guy does great work. Highly recommend.
That site is blocked by my antivirus.
The blue are what remains from my 1979 basic set, and the red are from my 1983 basic set for BECMI. I have never seen multi color dice in a box set. What set did the do that? *
Holmes basic, from 1977. OP erroneously calls it Blue box, a common mistake, because it has a multicolor box and blue *book* with a blue monochrome version of the same image as the box. Combine that with the custom of referring to BECMI sets by box color and you can see why people reflexively call Holmes basic that.
https://preview.redd.it/3vcc6b6a6iad1.png?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=869a7a80d8638cabad960d8ebee1b096c420d77a
I picked up a couple of retro sets from Threshold Dice a few years ago! They are polyurethane and wonderful! I picked up an extra uninked d6 so I could colour it in white for d66 tables. I even picked up a pink d20 for rolling percentile! https://preview.redd.it/xo8h9sa118ad1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b99165968c1755aa1f035b9bf8e711d0362a12cb
I have a similar set from [Chessex](https://www.chessex.com/25499). It's great for teaching people.
... why has it never occurred to me to have each dice size a different colour? That makes so much sense, especially for differentiating d8 vs d10 and d12 vs d20. I might have to pick a colour for each die size and get a nice set for each.
Same. I feel so very, very stupid right now.
I would love to have this again. I realized many years later the coloration was helpful for newbs to learn which die was what.Â
Not exactly. The classic dice set has a d20 that's numbered 0-9 twice. We would use liquid paper to color it to distinguish between 1-10 and 11 to 20.
Nice Where did you get them?
there are quite a few "nerd stores" in Budapest that sell board games, Warhammer minis and paints, fantasy books, etc. They usually have a box of unsorted dice, and you can dig through it to find what you need. It only took me two stores to get all of them, and then I painted the numbers black with a sharpie.
I could've sworn the OG D10 was pink.
I think it was a white or red d20 but numbered 0-9 twice. Players would color in one of the sets of numbers to use it as an actual d20.
I meant the first true 10-sided die offered in the TSR sets.