>Same result can be achieved without installing any software, just only one little registry tweak.
The thing is you shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get a functional system.
The meme was always Windows works OOTB and Linux required the terminal, luck, magic spells, etc.
In reality Windows is straight up living that meme.
I can drop an ISO onto a ventoy USB, boot, a few clicks, reboot, start a GUI front end for the package manager and check 50 programs I want, click apply and have a working system with my shit ready in 7 minutes or less.
Windows now requires either CMD bypasses during installation or Rufus but you better still be unplugged, walk through the slow ass installation unchecking all the (exposed) telemetry options, waiting for 20+ minutes for it to finish just to spend 30 minutes minimum downloading and installing drivers and programs which have to install in a one after the other serial fashion.
Now I have the privilege of spending time using a combination of third party software, registry tweaks, and typing in power shell commands and hope I don't remove too much bloat or the MS store which already barely works will break and there goes game pass.
Then after a seasonal feature update I get the pleasure of doing much of it over again as well as setting my default programs back to what I actually want.
Its a clown show and anyone trying to downplay how stupid, anti consumer, user unfriendly, and a big waste of time this all is is a bigger clown than MS.
> Windows now requires either CMD bypasses during installation or Rufus
Yeah the default sucks, but all Rufus is doing is make their own partial answer file. If you know how to make one the Windows install can be made really smooth. Since I end up doing a lot of installs for our org I have an installer USB that anyone can plug in and run, and it will go straight from installation to desktop.
You can even run batchfiles on first boot to take care of all those registry entries to disable telemetry, windows search etc., or install other software like Office using ODT.
Windows Answer File Generator will get you most of the way there (sans post-install auto-runs): https://www.windowsafg.com/
I agree with you BUT even if this thing amongst many others would be somewhere in the settings 90% of users would not find, nor even search for it and complain. Even if it would be somewhere logical like in this case taskbar settings.
Could this post be any more hyperbole? Lmao. I just installed windows the other day AND Arch to a usb for the same device and the windows install was incredibly faster and easier. Also, registry tweaks have been a common thing for lots of windows users for over 20 years and never has it been a "windows works ootb over Linux" that would be the mac meme of "it just works". Also to act like Linux just works ootb is extra hilarious if you exclude a mainstream distro like Ubuntu, etc. I doubt any user could install a lesser distro without the wiki or guide/yt video.
I'm not saying windows is without fault, but you're being severely over dramatic. I've never had a single issue you've written about. There's absolutely no reason your drivers should take 30 minutes to download and install. Nor should you seasonly have to redo all your settings and default programs.
I refer you to the cluster that was the Win7 to 10 transition:
MS: Humm, people aren't downloading 10, how to fix?
The normal update became a critical update became an update that downloaded a thing that then changed the long standing 'hit the X to cancel' with options of "install now, install in 15 minutes, or go F\* yourself and install anyway".
Someone makes a thing to block the 10 nagware. MS changes the patch number to work around the block. Back and forth a few times until you work around the work around with a work around to fix the work around to block the work around in the work around.
After that, you honestly think MS is not going to 'conveniently' either revert or change how the setting are handled every chance they get if it lets the shove in ads and harvest data?
Or do I need to break out the many posts on sysadmin forums about candy crush saga showing up in the pro version?
That's Arch, though... there are many much easier/quicker Linux installs than Arch. Unless you're using some GUI Arch installer, but last time I looked for one of those I couldn't get any of them working properly.
Installing Arch is like building your car from a kit. A lot more control over everything that goes in and whatnot but not exactly beginner friendly. Comparing a distro like Mint or Ubuntu to Windows is way more accurate
I mean yeah, but that means your argument is effectively "As long as you don't count the most common and popular distros, Linux is a pain to get started."
My point was the hyperbole of their installation of windows.
"I can drop an ISO onto a ventoy USB, boot, a few clicks, reboot, start a GUI front end for the package manager and check 50 programs I want, click apply and have a working system with my shit ready in 7 minutes or less." As if that's not exactly how a windows install would work.
Have a bootable usb, run it and install reboot and boom windows. The hilariousness of requiring cmd bypasses, rufus, unchecking telemetry (as if that's not the same as "check 50 programs I want" time wise) and 30 minutes to get drivers installed or as if driver installation times are a fault of anyone besides the company who wrote the driver installer lmao.
Saying installing windows requires jumping through hoops to get a functional system is the same as me saying Arch linux is why linux is a pain in the ass and why you have to jump through hoops to get a functional system.
Mind you, I don't think any form of linux, windows, etc. is actually a pain in the ass to install they all have their ups and downs and issues and hiccups.
> I just installed windows the other day AND Arch to a usb for the same device and the windows install was incredibly faster and easier.
Yeah, you picked one of the most manual Linux distros possible. If you picked almost any other Linux distro, it would install faster than Windows.
Your analogy is like saying "Could this post about supercars be any more hyperbole? I just tried driving a 2004 Kia and Lamborghini Trattori tractor the other day, and the Kia was WAY faster than the Lambo.".
Yeah, if you cherrypick your example to that extreme, of course you're going to get the result that you want.
You could probably plug in a USB keyboard and enable third party closed-source drivers, but yeah Surfaces are very much designed for Windows and nothing else.
The better question is why does one need to be a power user, leveraging registry tweaks or third party tools in order to disable a feature that literally nobody asked for, nobody wants, and nobody finds helpful.
It'd be mildly helpful if it searched with the user's preferred search engine, but it doesn't. It just spits in the face of established muscle memory from Windows 7 and 8 in an effort to promote Bing.
Best part is it eventually tries to be clever and give you control panel stuff when looking for something in settings. By trying to make search smart they made it a million times dumber for people who actually know what they are looking for and just want a faster way of getting there without memorising a million and one key combos.
Me: "Please open this program I just installed."
Windows: "Here's the website for that program where you can download it."
Me: "No, I literally just installed it - like 2 minutes ago."
Windows: "I've never met you in my life."
what? how come windows cant open edge in any way? i can type anything i want into the windows search and spam enter and nothing happens. it might be that i removed something else too idk it was a long time ago.
windows downloads updates and notifies you about it. But its easy to miss the few seconds notification in the corner. If you dont, windows will schedule the restart at first not-active time, which by default starts at 23:00 or 24:00. Then if you are not actively using the computer (which can include things like going to the toilet) it will restart and update without asking.
And no, there is no reason, not updates, not antivirus, not anything that will make me restart more than once a week. if you need a restart you are waiting for friday.
>And no, there is no reason, not updates, not antivirus, not anything that will make me restart more than once a week.
Just making the problem for yourself then, aren't you. A restart takes a minute or two at most.
A restart takes closing all current software, notifying all users of that, then rebooting all of it and reestablishing service. Theres a reason i only do it once a week, its an actual process. But windows dont care, they will just forcequit everything.
Just get the Pro version if you are that concerned about it. Don’t update for a few weeks? It doesn’t care. Won’t force you. (Not that it is a good practice to be in.)
Then users won't update at all. There is a reason enterprise has critical patches which hard close everything with few hours of constant nagging in corporate world.
> A restart takes a minute or two at most.
Disregarding getting all the closed software reopened, opening data files, waiting for Windows to really finish booting, because while it gives you a desktop, there's still a lot of OS loading going on in the background.
So yeah, a minute or two, if you ignore people that actually have work to do, rather than thinking seeing a desktop is 'done'.
When work is finished, and you're going to log off - then do "update and shutdown". It doesn't really affect you then.
I've always followed this...I see the update needs to restart pop up, I ignore it till the EOD and hit update and shutdown later.
The thing is. I don't shut down or restart often but I usually keep my PC on sleep (Is that a bad thing?). But why can't I just have control over when I want to update and when I dont?
Another thing is that I don't get notifications about it. The only indication is the orange dot on "power" options.
Some corporate installs I’ve seen enforce a maximum window you can put off an update-and-restart. I’ve seen people booted off of live meetings as windows effectively hijacks itself to restart.
Do you regularly turn off your computer like a scholar and a gentleman, or do you keep your computer always on like a troglodyte?
Joking aside, so many issues with Windows can be completely avoided just by voluntarily restarting the machine at least once a week.
I do actually turn it off when im done just because sleep modes been broken on my AM5 sense I got it, and im too lazy to fix it. The amount of people who don't just update windows and ignore it for weeks or don't even restart their computer is mind boggling.
It doesn't happen. It's users who don't know what the hell is going on in the OS. They probably brat fingered something and then said "stupid computer." No, Becky, you don't know how to control a mouse. Don't blame it on the computer.
It's a thing since windows 10. It's totally fucked up, tried lots of different things and it will just override and restart regardless. Not even the group policy did anything.
Now i just run do not sleep in autostart.
Restarts on its own?
Check if "get me up to date" is enabled in advanced options. If yes, disable it.
Other than this, just tey to use the "update and shut down" option when possible. Don't always let it sleep or hibernate. If something is critical and you're being too lazy, it will restart to apply.
That is off and it still restarts. Restarted today and lost a bunch of work even though there were no critical updates in the windows update tab 2 days ago
Same lol
My worst search experience was with Windows 10 when it launched in 2015. Windows 11 worked right out of the gate.
Most of these issues I never come across so I rarely say anything about it.
My windows 11 tell me "here, update available, wanna install it now, out of active hours or during a restart?".
Like if people push back updates because they complain the updates "anyway happen" they push the OS to make the updates anyway happen.
> I really love it when windows restarts and updates without my permission thus closing all programs I had opened 😍😍 (I am going to k!ll myself)
Don't worry, some guy will swing by and claim they don't know what you're talking about and that its not a real issue and you'll feel comforted.
Why the sarcasm? This is definitely a user created issue as that in fact is a normal setting in the settings menu not some registry hack that you would need to apply. Setup your system correctly and no update will restart without permission.
Can you tell me how to disable it then?
I've tried multiple guides on how to stop it from doing that but I still come back to my programs closed once in a while.
And I check for windows updates and it says all good. But then a few days later it restarts by itself and my work is gone
You can disable the web search by going into the registry editor and shifting some values
Win+R then type "regedit"
Look for "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows"
If in the Windows folder you can't see a folder called Explorer then right click on the Windows folder then click New then Key
name this new Key "Explorer" and hit enter
Then right click on the Explorer folder New then DWORD(32-bit) Value
Name this new DWORD "DisableSearchBoxSuggestions" after that double click on the freshly created DWORD and change it's value to 1
It's so god damn conplicated for no fucking reason, oh and if you happen to use a version older than 2004 there is an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PROCESS AND I HATE IT
Search for “Teams”
First result is “Teams Reset Tool”
Second is actual Teams
The reset tool doesn’t ask for confirmation. It just resets teams (logs you out and sets everything to default settings)
Windows search is just the worst
The really annoying thing is that Windows search was pretty good in 7 and 8. Then along came 10 and Web search being built in and fucked the whole thing up.
Seems like "Teams Reset Tool" is just the application you use more often because the Windows search "learns" from what you usually end up using after searching for something.
Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC is currently the only even remotely decent version of Windows (that's still receiving security updates). None of the bloatware, none of the spam tiles, none of the spam messages, local accounts easily made, easier to turn off telemetry.
Windows 11 is an absolute shitshow. It's like they want to see how much they can piss their users off before they switch to Apple or Android. They looked at the Taskbar, the Start Menu, and Explorer, and said 'Well, we made it worse in Windows 10, but they took it. Let's make them absolute pieces of shit with the worst functionality ever and laugh at how they take it up their ass even harder!'
Both my win 8.1 and 11 computers check the hdd /ssd first, and the top results are what's in storage. Web results are at the bottom and there's a space to separate them.
I only get Web results if there's nothing on my storage going by my search query.
Best is to install search everything from voidtools. It's a fast indexer that allows you to find files instantly. I am using a plugin that mixes the windows search bar with search everything, so names of programs (apps) show up using the normal windows system but anything else is search everything results.
[Someone else](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1bj8a79/windows_be_like/kvqfi0h/) in the thread posted a registry tweak after you were here.
Download [OpenShell](https://open-shell.github.io/Open-Shell-Menu/), it allows you to bring back the good ol' Windows 7 Start Menu, the best one ever. Works for Windows 11 and and 10
I'll add one more officially by microsoft.
Powertoys.
It has a module "Run" which is basically your mac os/ios spotlight. It works great and has enhanced indexer.
If I didn't need Windows and Mac setups for work I'd have switched to Linux after experiencing how bad Win 11 is getting.
They keep shoving OneDrive, Office 365, and now Copilot onto me. Yes I can disable all of these new features as they come out, but I shouldn't have to; just give me security updates, keep your bells and bloat whistles off my setup plz.
No, I don't want to hide *any* icons in my systray. Why add a second click to see information?
No, I don't want the weather forecast in my taskbar.
No, I don't want ads in my start menu.
Stop. Fucking stop! 😭😭😭
“Searching Web for that app you wanted to launch”
No, search for the app, I’m gonna click the app tab
“No apps called that”
Fine, I’ll go through the menus to open it that way then. I’ll pin it to the start menu to make it easier for next time.
“Hey so, I didn’t think you actually wanted to keep that app pinned to the start menu, so we just went ahead and took it off there for ya. It’s okay, we get. Everyone makes mistakes XOXO”
Honestly mine probably does 😂. I'm just use to hitting the start key and typing what I need. Do the same on my phone I always open menu and type the app I need
Whatever algorithm windows uses for searches never seems to make any sense. Something I search for a lot is "advanced system settings". Search for "adv" and the top result is advanced system settings. Search for "adva" and the top result is search the web for advance auto parts, advanced system settings is not even a result at all
What the fuck are you on about? This does not happen. Unless you typo notepad even on windows 10 it opens notepad if you press windows key and type notepad into the search.
I don't know how you have that sh!t configured, but *Search the Web* is the third option after I use the search bar to look for Notebook - "Apps" comes second and suggests Notepad++ because I have it there. Also, you can always just right-click your mouse on the Desktop and chose "New>Text Document".
Look, I know it's a funny meme, but come on...
> https://www.debian.org/
I get that you want to plug your favorite distro but many people here game and being so far behind in kernel drivers and MESA versions is counter productive to that end.
Yes I know you can manually install newer packages but they won't contain the Debian tweak of fixes and security updates defeating the purpose of choosing Debian in the first place.
A non-starter for most Nvidia users with an up-to-date GPU. Those should get Fedora or something (wouldn't want them to kill several Arch installs and ragequit)
Winaerotweak has the option to turn off web search. Game Changer. Or rather, Game Reverter.
Same result can be achieved without installing any software, just only one little registry tweak.
Yes but why bother when you can download the portable version and click a few times.
Having choice is always good.
Absolutely especially if you wanna automate stuff like this.
It's an ego thing, fucking around in the registry is fun
I don't know... it's sort of like fiddling around in Bill Gates pants.
Until you edit the wrong entry and absolutely destroy your computer. I still like messing around in it for simple things like deleting user profiles.
Agree.
Because software that accesses registry is a security risk. In 3 years they may sell the product to someone else who puts a spyware in it, etc.
So file explorer and notepad? Its really not had to muck about in the registry if you know where to look, no special software needed.
file explorer or notepad does not receive updates from third party developers.
Less potential in hijacked programs?
>Same result can be achieved without installing any software, just only one little registry tweak. The thing is you shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get a functional system. The meme was always Windows works OOTB and Linux required the terminal, luck, magic spells, etc. In reality Windows is straight up living that meme. I can drop an ISO onto a ventoy USB, boot, a few clicks, reboot, start a GUI front end for the package manager and check 50 programs I want, click apply and have a working system with my shit ready in 7 minutes or less. Windows now requires either CMD bypasses during installation or Rufus but you better still be unplugged, walk through the slow ass installation unchecking all the (exposed) telemetry options, waiting for 20+ minutes for it to finish just to spend 30 minutes minimum downloading and installing drivers and programs which have to install in a one after the other serial fashion. Now I have the privilege of spending time using a combination of third party software, registry tweaks, and typing in power shell commands and hope I don't remove too much bloat or the MS store which already barely works will break and there goes game pass. Then after a seasonal feature update I get the pleasure of doing much of it over again as well as setting my default programs back to what I actually want. Its a clown show and anyone trying to downplay how stupid, anti consumer, user unfriendly, and a big waste of time this all is is a bigger clown than MS.
> Windows now requires either CMD bypasses during installation or Rufus Yeah the default sucks, but all Rufus is doing is make their own partial answer file. If you know how to make one the Windows install can be made really smooth. Since I end up doing a lot of installs for our org I have an installer USB that anyone can plug in and run, and it will go straight from installation to desktop. You can even run batchfiles on first boot to take care of all those registry entries to disable telemetry, windows search etc., or install other software like Office using ODT. Windows Answer File Generator will get you most of the way there (sans post-install auto-runs): https://www.windowsafg.com/
I agree. Fuck Windows and fuck Microsoft. I've been sick of their shit for years. Linux FTW.
I agree with you BUT even if this thing amongst many others would be somewhere in the settings 90% of users would not find, nor even search for it and complain. Even if it would be somewhere logical like in this case taskbar settings.
Could this post be any more hyperbole? Lmao. I just installed windows the other day AND Arch to a usb for the same device and the windows install was incredibly faster and easier. Also, registry tweaks have been a common thing for lots of windows users for over 20 years and never has it been a "windows works ootb over Linux" that would be the mac meme of "it just works". Also to act like Linux just works ootb is extra hilarious if you exclude a mainstream distro like Ubuntu, etc. I doubt any user could install a lesser distro without the wiki or guide/yt video. I'm not saying windows is without fault, but you're being severely over dramatic. I've never had a single issue you've written about. There's absolutely no reason your drivers should take 30 minutes to download and install. Nor should you seasonly have to redo all your settings and default programs.
I refer you to the cluster that was the Win7 to 10 transition: MS: Humm, people aren't downloading 10, how to fix? The normal update became a critical update became an update that downloaded a thing that then changed the long standing 'hit the X to cancel' with options of "install now, install in 15 minutes, or go F\* yourself and install anyway". Someone makes a thing to block the 10 nagware. MS changes the patch number to work around the block. Back and forth a few times until you work around the work around with a work around to fix the work around to block the work around in the work around. After that, you honestly think MS is not going to 'conveniently' either revert or change how the setting are handled every chance they get if it lets the shove in ads and harvest data? Or do I need to break out the many posts on sysadmin forums about candy crush saga showing up in the pro version?
That's Arch, though... there are many much easier/quicker Linux installs than Arch. Unless you're using some GUI Arch installer, but last time I looked for one of those I couldn't get any of them working properly.
Installing Arch is like building your car from a kit. A lot more control over everything that goes in and whatnot but not exactly beginner friendly. Comparing a distro like Mint or Ubuntu to Windows is way more accurate
Yeah, that's why I prefaced it with "excluding mainstream distros like Ubuntu, etc." lol.
I mean yeah, but that means your argument is effectively "As long as you don't count the most common and popular distros, Linux is a pain to get started."
My point was the hyperbole of their installation of windows. "I can drop an ISO onto a ventoy USB, boot, a few clicks, reboot, start a GUI front end for the package manager and check 50 programs I want, click apply and have a working system with my shit ready in 7 minutes or less." As if that's not exactly how a windows install would work. Have a bootable usb, run it and install reboot and boom windows. The hilariousness of requiring cmd bypasses, rufus, unchecking telemetry (as if that's not the same as "check 50 programs I want" time wise) and 30 minutes to get drivers installed or as if driver installation times are a fault of anyone besides the company who wrote the driver installer lmao. Saying installing windows requires jumping through hoops to get a functional system is the same as me saying Arch linux is why linux is a pain in the ass and why you have to jump through hoops to get a functional system. Mind you, I don't think any form of linux, windows, etc. is actually a pain in the ass to install they all have their ups and downs and issues and hiccups.
> I just installed windows the other day AND Arch to a usb for the same device and the windows install was incredibly faster and easier. Yeah, you picked one of the most manual Linux distros possible. If you picked almost any other Linux distro, it would install faster than Windows. Your analogy is like saying "Could this post about supercars be any more hyperbole? I just tried driving a 2004 Kia and Lamborghini Trattori tractor the other day, and the Kia was WAY faster than the Lambo.". Yeah, if you cherrypick your example to that extreme, of course you're going to get the result that you want.
Linux bricks my Surface Book as it has no drivers for the keyboard, trackpad or wireless nic.
You could probably plug in a USB keyboard and enable third party closed-source drivers, but yeah Surfaces are very much designed for Windows and nothing else.
The better question is why does one need to be a power user, leveraging registry tweaks or third party tools in order to disable a feature that literally nobody asked for, nobody wants, and nobody finds helpful. It'd be mildly helpful if it searched with the user's preferred search engine, but it doesn't. It just spits in the face of established muscle memory from Windows 7 and 8 in an effort to promote Bing.
In a perfect world regular user doesn't need to be a power user. In a real world we're gonna deal with stuff we have or just not mess with it.
Dope, thank you MunkyChron, kind benevolent stranger
Just doing my bit to even out the world!
You're absolutely a king
This is a man of knowloodge
Open shell gives you the option to revert your taskbar to windows 10, 7, even xp i think
Ah yes, the good win10-logo.png.jpg
Cont You want Settings? Control You definitely want Settings! CONTROL PANEL MOTHERFUCKER!!!! :'(
Best part is it eventually tries to be clever and give you control panel stuff when looking for something in settings. By trying to make search smart they made it a million times dumber for people who actually know what they are looking for and just want a faster way of getting there without memorising a million and one key combos.
Me: "Please open this program I just installed." Windows: "Here's the website for that program where you can download it." Me: "No, I literally just installed it - like 2 minutes ago." Windows: "I've never met you in my life."
Sounds like you don't know how to type
i deleted edge so it cant open it.
How?
I think Microsoft recently added support for uninstall edge, I've seen a post about it
You can uninstall it but it'll reinstall itself every time there's a windows update.
Isn't that only for the EU though? If not, how could I do that?
I nuked that shit with Revo
BCU is a FOSS alternative
Easy.[There is even a tutorial on the MS page](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/linux/install)
RevoUninstaller will wipe it from the registry. That was the first tool I downloaded after installing Chrome.
find edge > open file location > ctrl + a > delete
this does snot delete edge nor windows internet engine.
Haha. Snot.
what? how come windows cant open edge in any way? i can type anything i want into the windows search and spam enter and nothing happens. it might be that i removed something else too idk it was a long time ago.
That's why you disable internet searches on windows search, and it works amazing, local searches only.
My employer does that through a group policy and it's a fucking pain when you are used to working with Computers that have not been mutilated.
I really love it when windows restarts and updates without my permission thus closing all programs I had opened 😍😍 (I am going to k!ll myself)
I never understand how people get this. Been a windows user sense windows 2000 and never once had windows do this.
Well ofc you didnt if youre still on windows 2000 duh
or if your iq is at least 70
I think it's because people never do the updates when shutting down the pc so at some point Windows just does it by itself
windows downloads updates and notifies you about it. But its easy to miss the few seconds notification in the corner. If you dont, windows will schedule the restart at first not-active time, which by default starts at 23:00 or 24:00. Then if you are not actively using the computer (which can include things like going to the toilet) it will restart and update without asking. And no, there is no reason, not updates, not antivirus, not anything that will make me restart more than once a week. if you need a restart you are waiting for friday.
>And no, there is no reason, not updates, not antivirus, not anything that will make me restart more than once a week. Just making the problem for yourself then, aren't you. A restart takes a minute or two at most.
A restart takes closing all current software, notifying all users of that, then rebooting all of it and reestablishing service. Theres a reason i only do it once a week, its an actual process. But windows dont care, they will just forcequit everything.
Just get the Pro version if you are that concerned about it. Don’t update for a few weeks? It doesn’t care. Won’t force you. (Not that it is a good practice to be in.)
Im using Enterprise version. It still forces them. What is good practice is to allow a user to manage his own device.
Then users won't update at all. There is a reason enterprise has critical patches which hard close everything with few hours of constant nagging in corporate world.
so because some users dont update, we must force all users to update when microsoft wants?
> A restart takes a minute or two at most. Disregarding getting all the closed software reopened, opening data files, waiting for Windows to really finish booting, because while it gives you a desktop, there's still a lot of OS loading going on in the background. So yeah, a minute or two, if you ignore people that actually have work to do, rather than thinking seeing a desktop is 'done'.
When work is finished, and you're going to log off - then do "update and shutdown". It doesn't really affect you then. I've always followed this...I see the update needs to restart pop up, I ignore it till the EOD and hit update and shutdown later.
The thing is. I don't shut down or restart often but I usually keep my PC on sleep (Is that a bad thing?). But why can't I just have control over when I want to update and when I dont? Another thing is that I don't get notifications about it. The only indication is the orange dot on "power" options.
Some corporate installs I’ve seen enforce a maximum window you can put off an update-and-restart. I’ve seen people booted off of live meetings as windows effectively hijacks itself to restart.
Do you regularly turn off your computer like a scholar and a gentleman, or do you keep your computer always on like a troglodyte? Joking aside, so many issues with Windows can be completely avoided just by voluntarily restarting the machine at least once a week.
I do actually turn it off when im done just because sleep modes been broken on my AM5 sense I got it, and im too lazy to fix it. The amount of people who don't just update windows and ignore it for weeks or don't even restart their computer is mind boggling.
It doesn't happen. It's users who don't know what the hell is going on in the OS. They probably brat fingered something and then said "stupid computer." No, Becky, you don't know how to control a mouse. Don't blame it on the computer.
It's a thing since windows 10. It's totally fucked up, tried lots of different things and it will just override and restart regardless. Not even the group policy did anything. Now i just run do not sleep in autostart.
People who downwote, please explain how to disable that. I have also tried multiple setting and it still restarts on its own.
Restarts on its own? Check if "get me up to date" is enabled in advanced options. If yes, disable it. Other than this, just tey to use the "update and shut down" option when possible. Don't always let it sleep or hibernate. If something is critical and you're being too lazy, it will restart to apply.
That is off and it still restarts. Restarted today and lost a bunch of work even though there were no critical updates in the windows update tab 2 days ago
Same lol My worst search experience was with Windows 10 when it launched in 2015. Windows 11 worked right out of the gate. Most of these issues I never come across so I rarely say anything about it.
My windows 11 tell me "here, update available, wanna install it now, out of active hours or during a restart?". Like if people push back updates because they complain the updates "anyway happen" they push the OS to make the updates anyway happen.
Hey! Some guy here. Not sure what you’re talking about & that’s actually not a real issue. Hope this helps!
> I really love it when windows restarts and updates without my permission thus closing all programs I had opened 😍😍 (I am going to k!ll myself) Don't worry, some guy will swing by and claim they don't know what you're talking about and that its not a real issue and you'll feel comforted.
Why the sarcasm? This is definitely a user created issue as that in fact is a normal setting in the settings menu not some registry hack that you would need to apply. Setup your system correctly and no update will restart without permission.
Can you tell me how to disable it then? I've tried multiple guides on how to stop it from doing that but I still come back to my programs closed once in a while. And I check for windows updates and it says all good. But then a few days later it restarts by itself and my work is gone
You can disable the web search by going into the registry editor and shifting some values Win+R then type "regedit" Look for "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows" If in the Windows folder you can't see a folder called Explorer then right click on the Windows folder then click New then Key name this new Key "Explorer" and hit enter Then right click on the Explorer folder New then DWORD(32-bit) Value Name this new DWORD "DisableSearchBoxSuggestions" after that double click on the freshly created DWORD and change it's value to 1 It's so god damn conplicated for no fucking reason, oh and if you happen to use a version older than 2004 there is an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PROCESS AND I HATE IT
Oh, they have a reason, it's to bolster bing search numbers and gather data. It's just not a good reason.
After that whole thing restart the pc for the shenanigans to take effect
Search for “Teams” First result is “Teams Reset Tool” Second is actual Teams The reset tool doesn’t ask for confirmation. It just resets teams (logs you out and sets everything to default settings) Windows search is just the worst
The really annoying thing is that Windows search was pretty good in 7 and 8. Then along came 10 and Web search being built in and fucked the whole thing up.
Seems like "Teams Reset Tool" is just the application you use more often because the Windows search "learns" from what you usually end up using after searching for something.
I wanted to rename a file and windows deleted it
Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC is currently the only even remotely decent version of Windows (that's still receiving security updates). None of the bloatware, none of the spam tiles, none of the spam messages, local accounts easily made, easier to turn off telemetry. Windows 11 is an absolute shitshow. It's like they want to see how much they can piss their users off before they switch to Apple or Android. They looked at the Taskbar, the Start Menu, and Explorer, and said 'Well, we made it worse in Windows 10, but they took it. Let's make them absolute pieces of shit with the worst functionality ever and laugh at how they take it up their ass even harder!'
Is there a Windows 11 Enterprise version? And where would a regular consumer get it?
I never had this problem
Both my win 8.1 and 11 computers check the hdd /ssd first, and the top results are what's in storage. Web results are at the bottom and there's a space to separate them. I only get Web results if there's nothing on my storage going by my search query.
I never had this problem either until it randomly decided to do this for me. And it was on notepad too.
Why searching for files in my computer brings up Internet search results will never cease to confuse me.
There Is a way to restore the search function to actually search stuff into the computer and not on bing?
Best is to install search everything from voidtools. It's a fast indexer that allows you to find files instantly. I am using a plugin that mixes the windows search bar with search everything, so names of programs (apps) show up using the normal windows system but anything else is search everything results.
[Someone else](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1bj8a79/windows_be_like/kvqfi0h/) in the thread posted a registry tweak after you were here.
Download [OpenShell](https://open-shell.github.io/Open-Shell-Menu/), it allows you to bring back the good ol' Windows 7 Start Menu, the best one ever. Works for Windows 11 and and 10
I'll add one more officially by microsoft. Powertoys. It has a module "Run" which is basically your mac os/ios spotlight. It works great and has enhanced indexer.
This is partially why I use Linux.
If I didn't need Windows and Mac setups for work I'd have switched to Linux after experiencing how bad Win 11 is getting. They keep shoving OneDrive, Office 365, and now Copilot onto me. Yes I can disable all of these new features as they come out, but I shouldn't have to; just give me security updates, keep your bells and bloat whistles off my setup plz. No, I don't want to hide *any* icons in my systray. Why add a second click to see information? No, I don't want the weather forecast in my taskbar. No, I don't want ads in my start menu. Stop. Fucking stop! 😭😭😭
That's another reason why I put Linux on my desktop, having to gut things out just to make the computer usable. Then my last reason is local accounts.
This is my relationship with win11
Man windows 12 is going to be so good if microsoft keeps to the pattern
Accidentally opens Edge* PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAKE ME YOUR DEFAULT BROWSER!!!! PLEAAASSSEEE!!!!!
Open any browser that is not default says this - firefox, chrome, etc.
“Searching Web for that app you wanted to launch” No, search for the app, I’m gonna click the app tab “No apps called that” Fine, I’ll go through the menus to open it that way then. I’ll pin it to the start menu to make it easier for next time. “Hey so, I didn’t think you actually wanted to keep that app pinned to the start menu, so we just went ahead and took it off there for ya. It’s okay, we get. Everyone makes mistakes XOXO”
Windows 7 felt easier to navigate idk why they designed things the way they are.
Windows lol
Another fake PNG victim 😔🙏
WTF is wrong with my Windows then? It always looks on the SSD first.
Win+R Notepad Enter
are you still using a launch version of Windows 10 cause mine never opens the web when searching for a program
Replaced the Windows on my Laptop with Kubuntu So much better
Funny how all the things I hate about Windows so much stopped being an issue as soon as I installed Linux 🤔
make me a sandwich
Same problem when I search calculator
Get a keyboard with a calculator hotkey. Best purchase ever
Honestly mine probably does 😂. I'm just use to hitting the start key and typing what I need. Do the same on my phone I always open menu and type the app I need
Thank god windows 10 doesn't do that unless you don't have the app or folder
When you try and click on the little pop up to turn on battery saver but accidentally open Microsoft Copilot 💀
I just love when windows decides that even though you have clearly stated your default browser is not edge, it still opens everything in edge. /s
am i the only one with out this problem?
Win+r notepad
I love the search bar other than when it decided it feels like being a stupid web browser
Whatever algorithm windows uses for searches never seems to make any sense. Something I search for a lot is "advanced system settings". Search for "adv" and the top result is advanced system settings. Search for "adva" and the top result is search the web for advance auto parts, advanced system settings is not even a result at all
So fucking real
"ed" opens the editor for me. No web search, just opens it
im gonna be real with you man, i just type "not" in my search bar and it finds it, maybe the problem is not windows here
Soooo \~ nobody is using Open-Shell? No? Just me? 
Best solution to 90% start menu complaints/problems
Winkey + R is your best friend. Type notepad there. Start search is bloated and terrible unless you disable some of the other crap it searches.
I wanna be back on linux
me and my regedit, gotta love it.
Close it! *Shuts down PC*
How do I Uninstall edge, shit still opens even with brave set as default for everything.
So true. I cannot even understand how you can mess up such a simple thing so badly.
Edge is good man
What the fuck are you on about? This does not happen. Unless you typo notepad even on windows 10 it opens notepad if you press windows key and type notepad into the search.
I don't know how you have that sh!t configured, but *Search the Web* is the third option after I use the search bar to look for Notebook - "Apps" comes second and suggests Notepad++ because I have it there. Also, you can always just right-click your mouse on the Desktop and chose "New>Text Document". Look, I know it's a funny meme, but come on...
opened a xml file a couple of days ago on a pc at work, it opened fking internet explorer, on windows 10
Just install notepad++ and edit the link for notepad to point to it and be done with it.
Life must be hard when you don't know how to use windows
Looks like smo don't know how to custumize windows LoL
https://www.debian.org/
> https://www.debian.org/ I get that you want to plug your favorite distro but many people here game and being so far behind in kernel drivers and MESA versions is counter productive to that end. Yes I know you can manually install newer packages but they won't contain the Debian tweak of fixes and security updates defeating the purpose of choosing Debian in the first place.
It's not my favorite, it's just a good starting point.
A non-starter for most Nvidia users with an up-to-date GPU. Those should get Fedora or something (wouldn't want them to kill several Arch installs and ragequit)
https://www.fedoraproject.org/
Let all go to Linux who doesn't like pinguïns bro🤷🏽♂️😂
https://preview.redd.it/l5ao1uj3lipc1.jpeg?width=2002&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d8cecb4366d79f030c8083e9d5754b096ca2a4c
Ehh I prefer trans fem furries
This or it searches some random mod file stored on my pc somewhere
MSEdgeRedirect on github. It's a blessing.
I hate that windows search doesn't know what alphabetical order is anymore
Uninstall Edge and completely block it from installing with a reg edit.
Windows ☕
Just use Linux. Nobara is really, really good