"No brains on this guy" Says the guy with no brain 😂🤣😅 Don't be so quick to slag off others when you do not know what you are talking about.
There have been tons of debates and tests on this subject and it make little to no different if you configure your AIO as 'Intake' or 'Exhaust'.
"https://youtu.be/QjYli6itP38?si=eAP9KSmIxQortjgf"
Don't feel stupid as the guy is an idiot and has obviously not researched this himself.
There have been tons of debates and tests on this subject and it make little to no different if you configure your AIO as 'Intake' or 'Exhaust'.
https://youtu.be/QjYli6itP38?si=eAP9KSmIxQortjgf
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1162697-should-aio-fans-be-intake-or-exhaust/
despite how many airflow tests show that convection is basically worthless in any setup with an actual fan? It doesn't really matter where they are positioned as long as they arent causing turbulence or blocked by something.
Just flip your side fans and rad fans and be done with it.
I very much doubt you have "slight positive pressure" as the intake fans above your rad are gimped by having a huge obstacle in the way of airflow whereas your side fans are unrestricted.
That's crazy. Intake sides and bottom, and exhaust the top. That will give you positive pressure, and allows for air inside the system to work its way out through the nooks and crannies.
TBH I hate it. Typically you want to exhaust hot air out the top so convection helps with cooling.
>Can’t admit the fact that I need to reverse the side fans and see the ugly side so for me the side fans HAVE to be exhaust
You can buy reverse blade fans for this very purpose.
>Can’t admit that my top AIO will work good if I put it in exhaust if hot air from the inside will come through it to cool the radiator
With so many fans there won't be much heat in the case. You may even see temps improve since it won't be fighting your intake fans. It's a 7800X3D it doesn't need much cooling anyway.
IMO the airflow should be following
https://preview.redd.it/h6gpvsikzo9d1.png?width=1435&format=png&auto=webp&s=b69c2beddb02b9b40becd90596b9bbfb30d635ba
If you're concerned about natural convection as any kind of force that matters, you can safely forget it. Fans are in play and it just will not (as in *cannot*) matter.
Heat doesn't rise...hot air does, and the moment a single fan is in play, it's all over for convective pressures. The "force" is extremely weak by comparison.
I was wondering, my GPU has a fan on the underside, if I put another fan below it blowing up, since I'm able to put fans at the bottom of the case, is that a good idea? (I guess it's kind of a stupid question).
Maybe, if you could move all the fans to the top and rear of the case, extracting, even the top radiator fans. The case has plenty of intake in the bottom of the case, and air will follow its natural ascending path. I myself have something like this. The radiator being used with fans pushing or pulling isn't relevant performance wise. I prefer to have the radiators as exhaust, this way releasing the hot air outside.
Can you mount the rad on the side pulling in, and then have 2 in the bottom, 3 out the top?
That'd just be plain better in every way compared to this absolute shit show.
Pulling air down is just a bad idea. Don't worry too much about using fresh intake air vs external air, just make sure there's enough air moving the right ways.
It's not about convection. It's about dust. Upward facing surfaces are where first settles, pulling it down is going to pull first through the fans and into the case.
Case will get dirtier faster, fans will build up dust faster, make more noise, be less efficient.
Also for flow, in simple terms, you don't want air turning or crowding. If one side is in, make the opposing side out
I'll pray to Tech Jesus for you.
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"No brains on this guy" Says the guy with no brain 😂🤣😅 Don't be so quick to slag off others when you do not know what you are talking about. There have been tons of debates and tests on this subject and it make little to no different if you configure your AIO as 'Intake' or 'Exhaust'. "https://youtu.be/QjYli6itP38?si=eAP9KSmIxQortjgf"
Omg i never thought of it this way I feel stupid ><
Don't feel stupid as the guy is an idiot and has obviously not researched this himself. There have been tons of debates and tests on this subject and it make little to no different if you configure your AIO as 'Intake' or 'Exhaust'. https://youtu.be/QjYli6itP38?si=eAP9KSmIxQortjgf https://linustechtips.com/topic/1162697-should-aio-fans-be-intake-or-exhaust/
Intake on the side and bottom. Exhaust the top and back.
This would be my preference too.
despite how many airflow tests show that convection is basically worthless in any setup with an actual fan? It doesn't really matter where they are positioned as long as they arent causing turbulence or blocked by something.
120mm fan don’t fit on the back of that case, is it recommended to put a smaller fan anyway ?
What kind of case did you buy where a 120mm won't fit on the back?
It’s called « Neoqube 2 » the clearance don’t even speaks about the back fan
>The NEO Qube 2 is a true showcase mid-tower chassis without compromise. Doesn't even have a rear fan mount lmfao
Just flip your side fans and rad fans and be done with it. I very much doubt you have "slight positive pressure" as the intake fans above your rad are gimped by having a huge obstacle in the way of airflow whereas your side fans are unrestricted.
That's crazy. Intake sides and bottom, and exhaust the top. That will give you positive pressure, and allows for air inside the system to work its way out through the nooks and crannies.
TBH I hate it. Typically you want to exhaust hot air out the top so convection helps with cooling. >Can’t admit the fact that I need to reverse the side fans and see the ugly side so for me the side fans HAVE to be exhaust You can buy reverse blade fans for this very purpose. >Can’t admit that my top AIO will work good if I put it in exhaust if hot air from the inside will come through it to cool the radiator With so many fans there won't be much heat in the case. You may even see temps improve since it won't be fighting your intake fans. It's a 7800X3D it doesn't need much cooling anyway.
Convection is totally irrelevant when fans are involved.
>convection helps with cooling. GN and others have shown that convection is utterly useless when fans are involved.
Okay, looks like I got some wrong « good ideas » on the build, thanks for the advices
Pull air from the bottom and side then exhaust from the top if this is all you have. Just don't pull hot air through your radiator into your system.
IMO the airflow should be following https://preview.redd.it/h6gpvsikzo9d1.png?width=1435&format=png&auto=webp&s=b69c2beddb02b9b40becd90596b9bbfb30d635ba
I'm not really sure how to even fix this since the AIO seems too wide to fit in the back side where your other fans are
So the idea is like an intake side AIO if I can find one that fits ? And then exhausts only on the top of the case ?
AIO fans are made to be flipped if you want to change the airflow direction
Mine allowed mounting of the fans on either side of the radiator, if he wants it in a push-to-radiator config.
Intake from bottom and side, exhaust from top and back.
........where is the power supply? EDIT: I'm not used to aquarium builds. Is it behind the mobo?
https://preview.redd.it/swws8s3kqq9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69e1468148312c361f61f7898949fb1b52d7e102 Other side !
Yep, gotcha.
Just lol. Top rad and back exhaust, bottom and side intake. Not hard
If you're concerned about natural convection as any kind of force that matters, you can safely forget it. Fans are in play and it just will not (as in *cannot*) matter. Heat doesn't rise...hot air does, and the moment a single fan is in play, it's all over for convective pressures. The "force" is extremely weak by comparison.
I was wondering, my GPU has a fan on the underside, if I put another fan below it blowing up, since I'm able to put fans at the bottom of the case, is that a good idea? (I guess it's kind of a stupid question).
Maybe, if you could move all the fans to the top and rear of the case, extracting, even the top radiator fans. The case has plenty of intake in the bottom of the case, and air will follow its natural ascending path. I myself have something like this. The radiator being used with fans pushing or pulling isn't relevant performance wise. I prefer to have the radiators as exhaust, this way releasing the hot air outside.
Wrong in so many levels
I don't doubt you, but could you list the many levels?
Can you mount the rad on the side pulling in, and then have 2 in the bottom, 3 out the top? That'd just be plain better in every way compared to this absolute shit show. Pulling air down is just a bad idea. Don't worry too much about using fresh intake air vs external air, just make sure there's enough air moving the right ways.
> Pulling air down is just a bad idea Why? Natural convection is simply *not* a strong enough "force" to matter once fans are involved.
It's not about convection. It's about dust. Upward facing surfaces are where first settles, pulling it down is going to pull first through the fans and into the case. Case will get dirtier faster, fans will build up dust faster, make more noise, be less efficient. Also for flow, in simple terms, you don't want air turning or crowding. If one side is in, make the opposing side out