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r121tree

Did you know Roglic used to be a ski jumper?


RandomWhitness

Did you know he is junior team event world champion in ski jumping?


Team_Telekom

Came here for this comment.


JeroenS80

Cane here for this comment.


betelgozer

Reminds me of Sofie Gråbol from *The Killing*. Oh wait. She used to wear a ski jumper...


qchisq

Did you know Jonas Vingegaard used to pack fish?


pantaleonivo

Did you know Marlen Reusser is a doctor?


darraghfenacin

Did you know Steve Buscemi was a firefighter during 9/11?


tchnvkng

Wist u dat hij vroeger schansspringer was?


Flashy-Mcfoxtrot

Im not saying it is completely out of the question that he could have made it that far. But if his career in football was paved, in the same way some journalists make it out to be there is no way in hell he would have changed career. He could make so much more money, playing football if he was good enough to be a national team level player for Belgium. There are plenty of guys getting a handful of u/16 caps on NT level that are never heard of again.


Thomas1VL

[A Sporza article from 2 years ago interviewed some of his former teammates.](https://sporza.be/nl/2022/09/07/het-voetballersbestaan-van-evenepoel-hij-liep-tussen-de-kenianen-op-de-halve-marathon-van-brussel~1662530436000/) He was physically a wonder kid, but his technical footballing skills weren't that amazing. By the time he was at the U16 he also didn't get a call up for the national team every time. The fact that he ended his 'career' "only" at the academy of KV Mechelen, while previously playing for much bigger clubs (Anderlecht and PSV) probably means he wasn't good enough for those clubs. He's mainly a phenomenal athlete as a whole. No doubt he could've been a professional footballer, but I don't think he would be anywhere near a world-class player.


GiaA_CoH2

I don't think it's deadset that he could have been a pro footballer. Being in a pro club academy doesnt guarantee you later pro status at all. Edit: This is similar to the narrative that Rog was on his way to becoming a world class Ski jumper and only the crash in Planica prevented him. Which is total bs from what I can tell. Truly can't trust mainstream journalists on shit like this.


Thomas1VL

You're right, I just thought he would've at least been good enough for the Belgian 2nd or 3rd division. That's not exactly high level and he wouldn't become rich from it, but it's still professional.


telegraph_road

Yeah, Roglic himself said that he saw that he won't ever become a top ski jumper (even if he was junior team WC before) and that this is why he decided to change his career. He said that his crash in Planica (as trial jumper, not as competitor as he was still 18 at that point) wasn't a main factor in this decision.


Big-On-Mars

Whereas Michael Woods set the Canadian junior mile and 3200m records before getting injured. He wouldn't have been world beater, but he could've gone pro.


nookrulz

this is generally what the Athletic article says as well.


Straight_Panda

Dangerous accidental subreddit there.


GeniuslyMoronic

More like an accidental username. And if someone got that username we could rest easily knowing they would be quite old by now.


Frontdelindepence

He would have had a better shot as a pro track athlete in long distance running. Belgium’s woes on the pitch have to do with the FA sucking serious ass and he Irony a loser like Tedesco.


OUEngineer17

Yeah? Did he do track events? Ironically, he seems kind of heavy for a marathon runner, and kind of short for middle distance track, so long distance track does sound like the right fit.


Frontdelindepence

He ran the Brussels half marathon in 1 hour 16 minutes day after a football match at 16. Kept up with Kenyans for the first 10 km.


DrMerkwuerdigliebe_

Remco makes 2.8 million euro's a year. Not too bad as a constellation price.


DueAd9005

In terms of salary, yes, but he made over € 4 milllion in 2022 incl. bonuses and private sponsorships.


Travuw

A consolation prize?


keetz

Sir, this is /r/peloton and we know every unimportant fact about the riders.


Many_Consideration86

True, cycling fans are data geeks. Most of them even have their own bikes and try to figure how hard it is to do TdF. Unlike some football fans who don't even own a football. But to be fair only one guy needs to bring a football for 22.


BeneBern

uae gc leader backstory really lacking, dont think they got a chance


Whole-Employer-9912

Do you know Urska’s boyfriend?


Angryhead

The scenes of her and Tadej in Unchained S2 were great, but I'm bummed they never mentioned that she's a pro cyclist. Not surprised, but would have been nice IMO.


Dont_tell_my_friends

Is that Tilen Pogacar's brother?


Himynameispill

There was a guy on here when Pogacar won the Tour the first time who said he and Pogacar were on the same youth cycling club team. More importantly, they played league of legends together. Did you know Pogacar used to carry mid?


Ann-NeverSettle96

An unicyclist in a small town? (Ok really lacking, I agree)


Xqf_VdW4Rr4V

Georg Steinhauser is the nephew of Jan Ullrich.


Team_Telekom

Well, they divorced, so not really any more. Rather ex-nephew.


Dopeez

I didnt know you can divorce your nephew, interesting.


WhatWhatHunchHunch

Sweet Home Saarland


fabianfl111

He is the nephew of Ullrich’s ex-wife, his father was a good friend of Jan Ullrich. So no bloodline nephew 😅


luxj

Let me tell you a story about Jonas


laziestathlete

Did you know he worked in a fish factory?


campbelldt

Bro the clips from Unchained of Jonas in the fish factory had me dyingggg. Looked like they made him get all dressed up to move some ice around LMAO like no way bro is still doing that.


hinds_blue

It’s from a clip from Danish tv I believe. So it’s from when he was younger and actually working there.


campbelldt

Oh lol that’s interesting. He looked exactly the same😂


vestergaard92

It is a clip from before he was a pro. He was apparently very unstructured, so the sports director made him work at the fish factory from 06-14 and then he would ride his bike afterwards.


Hawteyh

Did you hear the story about Remglic van Evanderpogagaard? The fish slinging, downhill skiing, footballing and cyclocrossing professional road cyclist?


Biblioklept73

My pick for this years tour right there… 😅


GiaA_CoH2

Imagine a rider who combines these 6 skillsets. He would be unstoppable. Until the Roglic DNA makes him crash out in some mundane transition stage.


houleskis

Post modern pentathlon


GeniuslyMoronic

No mention of equestrian Asgreen? https://bt.bmcdn.dk/media/cache/resolve/image_1240/image/147/1474589/23399634-asgreen.jpg


Hawteyh

This is new information to me. This changes everything!


Robcobes

Hmmm. Evenepoel eh? Never heard of him.


Spirited_Island_5173

It has started. The casuals have joined the sub for TdF. We welcome you! May the sun shine and our chains be waxed.


SWAN_RONSON_JR

Am I a casual to you, good person?


OUEngineer17

I guess I'm a casual too since I didn't know this and I pretty much only watch the big races and the GT's.


Suffolke

Not like the regulars are much better when it comes to Remco.


luxj

Btw i wonder who the "three" favourites to win are, remco pogi and jonas? poor roglic


scott9942

I doubt remco even gets top 5, he was struggling a lot at the dauphine


Nakrule18

He was at 80-85% according to him and still beating everybody but 10 guys. If he can get back to 100% (which I don’t know if it’s possible under 3 weeks) he will be top 5. And if he cannot be close to 100%, there is no way we see Jonas either considering he suffered much worse injuries.


Frisnfruitig

At Visma they know how to perfectly prepare a rider for a GT though. Can the same be said for Quickstep? I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Vingegaard perform at his best level this tour and I have less faith in Quickstep, I'm not convinced they really know what they are doing tbh.


Nakrule18

Common, it’s a professional team and one of the most successful overall. There is no way they are are clueless and Visma are goated. There is no more secret in the field, coaches, cyclists, etc… are swapping teams all the time and bringing the knowledge with them anyway.


Frontdelindepence

You’d be surprised. There used to be a lot of incompetence in cycling as well as pro sports.


Frontdelindepence

You’d be surprised. There used to be a lot of incompetence in cycling as well as pro sports.


OUEngineer17

You can bring the knowledge, but the application of that knowledge can vary widely. It's the same as when an NBA team hires away a coveted shooting coach from another team and all of a sudden everyone is shooting 40% from 3. The application of that knowledge on an individual basis is critical, and professional teams in every major sport that have better management and better coaching will get more and better results from their athletes. Not saying that this is the case between QS and Visma, just saying that it does make a difference, and not just in cycling. Also, see Laporte and Jorgenson for examples of the difference.


Frisnfruitig

Clueless is probably too harsh, but I think there is still a knowledge gap. In terms of budget there is a big difference so it is to be expected. I can't help but think Evenepoel would be a better rider if he was riding for Visma or Ineos. Quickstep has already dropped the ball with him a few times in the past. For example, rushing his recovery to ride the Giro.


scott9942

I agree, Remco would fit in much better in a GC focused team. I would have said Ineos would be a perfect fit a couple years back but I feel like they don't have enough experienced riders there to really cater to him in its current state. Him and Pidcock would clash massively too I expect. Somewhere like Lidl Trek would be perfect for him in the current season i reckon.


DriftlessCycle

Do you want to bet he won't make top 5?


scott9942

I wouldn't bet on it but I'd be very surprised unless he shows significant improvement in the 3 weeks he has.


youngchul

Rog, Pog and Vingegaard are well above Remco even if they're all in top shape.


luxj

great, the article includes remco in the 3 circle tho


nico_aka_redcat

Vingegaard gave up his fisherman career to become a pro cyclist


OUEngineer17

We all make sacrifices for the sport we love.


DueAd9005

One thing's for sure: Remco would not have lost to Peter Sagan on a bike these days!


qchisq

Somehow, that's not the best Evenepoel story in my mind. At 16, when he was still trying to become a footballer, he ran a half marathon for fun the day before a game. He did it in 1:16. That's only 16 minutes off the youth world record in the half marathon and would have been good enough to not finish last in the 2023 world championships


OUEngineer17

As a runner, I would have expected under 1:10 from him at minimum, and 1:05 or under to be really impressive. There was a guy at my high school that came straight from soccer and was running 5k equivalent times to that 1:16 half. He was winning small races, but nowhere near the top guys at state.


angryandannoyeddude

So much shit-talking here, but the vast majority of the US sports viewing world knows nothing but Lance Armstrong and are only starting to know people like Messi. This article is a good thing even if it is total cringe for you.


angryandannoyeddude

Also, the Euros are on. It's a lazy article for writers who need clicks.


DueAd9005

I'm surprised (in a good way) that an American newspaper is writing an article on Evenepoel!


lutsius-memes

Have you been living under a rock?


wallonguy

r/woosh


lutsius-memes

Didnt know its was 2019 with insults like this


c33j

I always wondered what type of footballer Remco was. Cry-baby fall-down type always crying to the refs, or more of a gamesman, or a tough player, etc. Is his cycling persona similar to his football persona or no?


laziestathlete

What you mean with TdF contender? He has zero chance of podium.


TheRollingJones

Zero? !Remindme 3 weeks


laziestathlete

Keep dreaming dude. Remco will fold on the first hard mountain day. His TT skills will not save him the podium. He will go stage hunting but that’s about it. How did Dauphine turn out for him?


Nakrule18

He was not at 100% and not going for GC anyway, and yet he still got a stage win. Pretty impressive in my book when Tarling and Roglic were present.


_Micolash_Cage_

Why do people rate results in preparation races so high all of a sudden?


bogdanvs

I dont believe in Remco as a serious GC contender for the win, but outside of the big 3, he might be the best so if one of them has a bad TdF Remco in theory might sneak on the podium. this being said, I see him giving minutes on the Galibier and relinquishing any GC hopes, going stage hunting.


youngchul

I'd put Adam Yates above him.


TheRollingJones

I’m enough of a mathematician that I consider myself having better than a zero chance of a podium


laziestathlete

Let’s see about your math skills. RemindMe! 35 days


jolliskus

I'm just curious, do you not rate Remco in general as a climber or do you simply think his preparation has been hampered to ruin his GC hopes this season Bit hard to understand considering your aggressive tone throughout.


TheDark-Sceptre

There's definitely not a zero chance. The guy has won the vuelta, was leading the giro when he got covid and still managed to get up to 12th at the vuelta last year after cracking. He has a chance at the podium, and it's certainly not zero.


Koppenberg

Hush now, you are disturbing the narrative with your inconvenient memory of recent history. The narrative says every time someone brings up a success that Remco has achieved, the "very smart cycling fan" has to counter with "yeah, but". So when you bring up that Remco has won the Vuelta the narrative counters with: "yeah, but he hasn't won the Tour." When you bring up that Remco is a year younger than Tadej, 3 years younger than than Jonas, and a decade Primoz' junior, the narrative answers that just means he's going to burn out. The narrative says that only stupid people think Remco is a GC threat. Ineos' efforts to purchase his contract to be the foundation of their future GC efforts is strenuously ignored. The narrative says Remco is overrated and any evidence of his success as a rider is just twisted to say "well, he's so talented that he's wasting it all."


TheDark-Sceptre

My apologies, I should have known all along that remco is in fact complete rubbish and all his victories are actually major asterisks. I should read more Belgian media and listen to pog/rog fans.


youngchul

Vuelta and Giro is one big step below the tour in terms of quality and competition. You can see how Pog and Vingegaard made it look like a cake walk in the past year.


TheDark-Sceptre

Never once did I say he would win it or the vuelta is as good as the tour in quality of competition (although last year probably had the best startlist in gc terms). It also has nothing to do with the fact he is still a podium contender.


youngchul

Yes, and last year when it had actual competition Remco cracked completely despite not riding the Tour. I can easily see him crack as hard again when actually pressed, when the big teams set the tempo in the Tour, he'll be dropping out early on the big climbs.


Simulation-Central

Nah. I’m going to agree Remco has a lot to prove at the Tour, but podium isn’t that crazy. First, let’s assume Vingegaard isn’t in good shape. Boom, now Roglic and Pogacar are the obvious two men that would beat him. So he’d also need to be beaten by Tao, or Adam Yates, or Hindley, or Kuss/Jorgenson. I would say all of those guys are clearly worse GC contenders than Remco if Remco rides well. However, Remco has to be at top form. If he’s not at Vuelta 2022 form or better he’s not going to make podium. I give it a 25% chance.


jonnydomestik

If he gets a top 10 I’d be surprised. He’s too inconsistent to be a GC contender at this stage of his career. Maybe that will change but it hasn’t happened yet.


DeltaPavonis1

Top 10 is fully realistic. Pogi and Jonas (likely even in his state) will beat him handily. Roglic will also probably be better. Then there is a list of maybe 10-15 riders he can beat on a good day (including the three UAE lieutenants and the two Bora guys), and I think he is good enough to beat enough of them for a Top-10. The question is if he wants to go for a Top-10, or rather stages and the Polka Dots. I definitly can't imagine him further up than fifth this year, maybe even sixth.


jonnydomestik

Yeah, I think that if he focused on the GC then top 10 is realistic because he can just follow wheels and get to the second to last selection and then crush a lot of the pure mountain guys in the TT. But that doesn’t work if he has a day when he loses 5 minutes on everyone.


forevermcginley

click bair for calling him a contender