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mr_lightside

he shoulda had two


No-Weird3153

I think maybe he forgot to actually drink it based on his fucking performance.


HoldMyBreadstick

You shouldn’t be surprised after watching him address the media the last 3.5 years


crowan83

Don’t know where else to ask but is there no megathread for the debate? Seems like crickets on Reddit at the moment.


Mataelio

There’s a live thread on r/politics


ForrestTrain

That thread broke right at the first commercial break lol


Porrick

It'd be nice if there was one on a less ideologically-homogeneous subreddit than that. I'm a great big auld lefty on the vast majority of issues, but the groupthink over there is too strong for my liking.


rhetorical_twix

If you don't agree with the talking points, you get banned. Edit: Even if you agree with them in general, you get banned for contradicting talking points.


wtfbruvva

That subreddit is compromised AF lmao.


DefiantLemur

If I was a betting man I'd bet that most political subreddits are compromised


beams_FAW

My friend all of reddit is compromised. We need to stop looking at it like trolling and the cyber warfare it is.


Mean-Coffee-433

New comments are getting delayed by at least 15 minutes right now. There seriously needs to be an open forum for discussion somewhere on this platform


WeeklyBanEvasion

There is no such thing as unmoderated discussion on reddit. I've been banned from subs that specifically say they never moderate comments outside of spam


RyuBZ0

heavily censored thread


KKRJ

New comments seemed delayed 15-30 minutes. Pretty useless megathread.


ChiaDaisy

Honestly, all of r/politics comment is not functional


Significant_Oven_753

I cant even see the comments wth


gearabuser

The most useless subreddit known to man unless you want a particular echo chamber haha


nobody369r

U mean the entire website?


crowan83

Thank you!


Dizzy_Emergency_6113

Don't thank him yet, its going horribly


Photogrifter

Fuck /r/politics


kaloonzu

Literally got banned for citing the Jefferson library to prove that Jefferson had said something. "Being combative with a moderator". Someone didn't like being proven wrong.


[deleted]

Yea the mods are biased losers over there. No neutrality...


Kermez

Dont be so harsh, low light in mama's basement and huge responsibility of walking others dogs is more stress than they could handle.


Atlantic0ne

It’s sad that such a neutrally named sub is so biased.


bongophrog

And horribly boring. Every comment thread has just one line jabs with no discussion on every post.


JonatasA

I think that is the point sadly. Have you seen r/pics?


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Liapocalypse1

Right? I was wondering the same thing. But I honestly can’t blame the moderators for not wanting to deal with that dumpster fire.


CobraKaiCurry

It is so bad.


dabluebunny

Can't imagine someone actively trying to seek it out. "Where's the forest fire I'd like to get right in the middle of it."


User28645

I hate to say it but I’m pretty sure if Biden hadn’t performed so poorly the front page would be full of debate content. It’s so quiet because Reddit is heavily biased towards progressives and tonight we don’t have a whole lot to celebrate. He came alive a little in the second half but unless you can see through Trumps blatant lies it looked like a pretty definitive victory for Trump tonight. More reason to make sure to vote in November, don’t become disheartened.


NinjaAncient4010

You can't blame moderators for wanting to halt discussion of the biggest political story of the day?? Why, because it didn't go favorably for their candidate? Of course you can blame them, if honest self-reflection and discussion was not verboten, the Democrats and their supporters would not be in this hole the have dug for themselves now.


Livid-Zone-6872

It's because Biden performed horribly lol. No one on reddit wants to even discuss the debate after that. Trump was his typical bullshitting self but Biden is very clearly degraded severely, meanwhile reddit has been trying to make it seem like Trump was the one degrading for the past several months. So that's why yall aren't seeing anything about the debate lol


Carthonn

It’s kind of worthless tbh. People just saying the same thing over and over “These are our candidates?!” like it’s a genius take.


mjt98765

Looks like the stuff is working great. He sounds like he’d lose an argument with a mannequin right now.


twintiger_

So fucking cooked lol


drkshape

This debate is so fucking embarrassing


RobotChrist

I can't believe the US will pick a president that is unable to hold a debate, pathetic, both of them


house343

At this point we're not voting for a presidential candidate. We're voting for a cabinet.


FractalHarvest

Always have been 🔫


ExternalMonth1964

No, YOU'RE the worst president in the history of the world.


Apple_butters12

Other country’s gotta be looking at this and wondering how pathetic we look putting these guys up as the “best we had” to represent the US


jhustla

I don’t think it’s working lol


TipperGoresOnlyFan

I knew it was going to go like this... but holy fuck,.


thegunnersdream

Very likely the worst debate performance of any presidential candidate. That was beyond anything I expected.


Q_dawgg

The worst you’ve seen so far lol, we have a few more before November


culnaej

Just one slated for September


indy_been_here

Biden didnt need to be great, just good. I knew he wouldn't be sharp, but I was expecting something similar to the state of the union or slightly less. When he started to speak...I immediately wanted the DNC to figure a way to switch candidates. His tone, his mumbling, his cough, loosing his train of thought. I was shocked he was this bad. Shocked. Even if it's an off day, he can't have days like this is he's brokering a peace deal, or negotiating, or commanding the military during an attack. Yes, we'd be better off with a Biden admin instead of a Trump admin. But let's get real, Biden won't win looking like this.


PensiveinNJ

Just watching him old man shuffle to the podium was painful. The DNC are out of their fucking minds going for a 2nd Biden term instead of looking for a replacement.


PartadaProblema

The DNC has made questionable choices in this century. When you aspire to oppose from the middle to preserve the status quo, you're apparently not inspired. That a man who silenced Anita Hill so he could play footsie with Strom Thurmond should have been ineligible for the top of the ticket.


ClearDark19

Because the DNC and Center-Right Democratic Party leadership is fully aware that a 2024 Democratic Primary probably would have resulted in a Bernie Sanders victory for the Nomination. Bernie came in a relatively close second place in 2016 and 2020 (about 46% of the votes), and a 2024 Primary would have no groomed DNC favorite on the level of a Hillary or a Biden. Just Kamala. Who had to drop out months before the voting even started in 2020 and came in 5th place in her own home state of California (which Bernie won by double digits over Biden in 2020). The DNC views Bernie Sanders as equivalent to or worse than Trump. Just look at a lot of the Moderate and Conservative Democrats' animus against The Squad or Jamaal Bowman. They frequently compare Progressives, AOC, and Bernie to MAGA. They would rather take a gamble on stretching Biden past the snapping point to get him a 2nd term and heavily risk losing to Trump than Sanders becoming President. Bernie is a threat to the interests of the Democratic Party's corporate donors. Trump isn't. Fascists are still a friend of Capital and the wealthy. Social Democrats and Socialists aren't.


IamA_Werewolf_AMA

In the state of the union - he was going off a prompter and did fine. He clearly cannot handle someone else hitting him with new information and forcing him to be quick on his feet. He is slow, and even at the state of the union, his only flubs happened when Marjorie Taylor Greene piped up - another situation where he had to be quick on his feet. A debate was doomed to be a disaster, I've been pointing out how slow he is even to my most blindly pro establishment friends. It's just that after tonight, they finally believe me. Even I didn't expect it to be this catastrophic though.


PensiveinNJ

He was speaking so quickly and robotically, like he was rushing through a list of talking points. Absolute deathknell when he confusedly said that he beat medicare. Trump was lying relentlessly yet somehow came across as more mentally there. Between the 2 of them probably the worst presidential debate in memory. Just shocking what we have to pick from.


IamA_Werewolf_AMA

Yeah, depressingly, horrifyingly bad. Trump kind of just let Biden do himself in while he lied relentlessly. But Biden was too out of it to really hit him on the lies.


Doggsleg

I’m not shocked at all. The evidence has been there for a while. What I’m shocked at is that two geriatric patients can get into the president seat in the USA! I don’t think they are representative of the best of anything. From an outside perspective I don’t want trump again…but Biden is lost in the wind. If you start singing a lullaby he’d be asleep! Surely America has something better to offer. Just to clarify still Biden over trump but that’s saying something about the state of affairs.


heimdal77

Things already citing people saying he has a cold.


SlothInASuit86

I listened to a post debate analysis on the radio and the commentators mentioned that the Biden camp was coming out right after the debate ended saying he struggled because he had a cold. One of the commentators say “Well then his camp should have said that 6 hours before the debate, not 5 minutes after it finished.” They’ll come up with any excuse.


GoT_Eagles

Every year South Park gets more and more accurate. This is simply pathetic from both sides.


postmodern_spatula

I always said I’d vote for a vegetable over Trump…this is the election where I put my money where my mouth is.  Fucking yikes. 


Trumpswells

Spray some steroid down his throat for Pete’s sake. When I heard he spent last weekend practicing at Ft David, knew we were lost. You don’t practice with facts against Trump.


PracticalRoutine5738

I think he forgot to drink it, holy shit.....


TK_Games

I'm 9 months sober and fighting for my life right now not to call in sick for tomorrow and Doordash 2 handles of the cheapest 120 proof swill money can buy


storytelleristaken

Stay sober. 9 months is amazing you can do 10 friend. You got this.


TK_Games

I'm safe for now, it's 1am now and I doubt any liquor store would deliver at this hour. Gonna distract myself with Stargate, drink a gallon of ginger tea, and try to avoid doom-scrolling


TruRateMeGotMeBanned

It’s embarrassing. No presidents above 60 allowed. I want a person who’s 45. I’m watching two toddlers argue. One is a crazy felon nazi and one doesn’t know where he is. Why are these our choices??? Still voting Biden. I can’t have hate win.


HiImDan

Man when Trump called out Biden for arguing over his handicap for acting like a child and Biden's retort was basically no u I died inside.


Aggressive_Elk3709

The fact that two presidential candidates were arguing over golf scores is a loss for the country. What's worse is that Trump was rolling his eyes over Biden's score when it's been made pretty clear Trump's not all that great at golf either


Jerthy

Yeah Americans. It's a choice between senile pensioner and fascist pensioner. I'm sure rest of the world can depend on you picking the lesser evil eh?


psumack

He either had too much or not enough, that's for sure


PAO_RT_IN_THE_KISSER

It's like watching a livestream of elder abuse


TheAnalsOfHistory-

Two dementia patients fighting over which news channel to watch in the common room of the psych ward. Except it's the future of American government.


captainbruisin

8o


Allstate85

they messed up and gave him a downer


HCJohnson

Fuck man, can you imagine if the USA had younger candidates that had sound minds and could actually talk about their policies and plans instead of stumbling around and attacking one another? We are truly fucked.


eliguillao

The younger candidates would still attack one another, but they’d do so speaking more clearly that’s for sure.


jhustla

That’s not allowed I don’t think


IHeartBadCode

The debate right now looking like. ![gif](giphy|iSZAKkZJPo1kk|downsized) I'm going with Statler being Biden and Waldorf being Trump.


Almost_Pi

I was really hoping instead of a debate the moderators just hand each of them a jump rope.


elkmeateater

I literally cannot understand what Joe Biden is saying.


SlothInASuit86

No one could. It’s astounding. Trump even took the opportunity to say “I don’t know what he just said, he doesn’t even know what he just said.” Right after Biden finished mumbling something. Damn that was fucking funny.


mid_vibrations

ah fuck is the debate happening? and it's going........as expected?


Enraiha

No, worse. Biden looks nothing like he did at the SotU or even in the 2020 debate.


GrinningStone

He looks worse than my 90 y.o. granddad after a second stroke. All the charisma of a dead fish on a beach.


TriggerHippie77

Yep, all one is doing is lying and the other sounds really confused. We are truly fucked.


Zooxer77

Worse, but in a very mellow and sad way


JustADutchRudder

It's wild both parties decided to run these two back again. Two people like 40-55 could be fun. Hell get saucy and try out a 36 year old!


ScumbagLady

WHAT I'VE BEEN SCREAMING. It's like they want the government to self-implode and watch it burn from their secret bunkers congratulating each other on a good Armageddon. Constitution needs some edits and amendments. Age limit should be one of them. Convicted felonies another. Things evolve, countries included. Time for some changes.


NJ_Legion_Iced_Tea

Pretty much. Biden is a poor public speaker and Trump is rambling about his big economy and dodging questions about Russia.


South_Bit1764

Yeah, Trump is a pompous dick and Biden can’t complete two sentences in a row.


wink047

If by “as expected” you mean Trump being high energy spouting lies all over the place while Biden looking and sounding like he’s on deaths door, then yeah.


InflamedLiver

I mean, yeah? This is 100% what I expected. It's painful, but not surprising


Indiancockburn

Should have boofed it


TuckHolladay

I feel bad for him. This is elder abuse for real.


roshanpr

It’s crazy that Trump sounds more coherent when he speaks. He may speak bullshit but it has been a minute since I watched him speak complete sentences. Biden memory lapses with some questions is weird.


rsfrisch

Biden is fucking up the delivery, while Trump is hardcore lying


cwt444

This aged like milk


Deathcon-H

Worse honestly


logisticitech

Aged like Biden


FRIENDSHIP_BONER

That’s what was in the can


JonatasA

Maybe the can has spoiled milk or not enough brain boosters.


Dixon_Sideyu

He sounds on stage as if he shotgunned quite of few of these before the debate.


jakeisstoned

Joe: "I'm all h-h-h-h-hopped up on, on ya know, on a situation where, mountain dew!" I'm going to go drink a lot. And vote for Biden on November as long as he has a fucking pulse


Glorfon

Requirements for my vote - Not Trump - Pulse (optional)


WWII-Collector-1942

If Biden is like this now what do you think it’s going to be like in two or three years. Thanks CNN you played it just right.


FrostyPost8473

Even the commenters on CNN were all like fuck


xmu806

I mean…. Even if you WANT to spin it, how do you spin that debate to not make Biden look absolutely fucking terrible? The conservative side has been SCREAMING that Biden has dementia. This debate is not exactly the best evidence that they are wrong….


NLVdad

He was like this during the last election. When they debated I had no clue what the hell he was talking about with trailing off and rambling. Why are we all acting like this is a new thing? Guy should have never been nominated as president elect.


DrawerValuable3217

Damn even CNN is giving up on Biden in air. Idk what happens now. Do the Dems go for someone else in the primary?


BigUncleHeavy

Hopefully, but not in reality. Just like how they rode that Hillary train over the cliff, they will keep riding the Biden choo-choo!


MoanyTonyBalony

No because they scheduled their convention after the date when the name on the ballots is finalised.


JohnBunzel

We are so fucked.


Highlander-Jay

Dude, like how does it get to this point? Both of them are just embarrassing


rugmunchkin

This was a HUGE mistake to agree to this. I don’t know who was close to Biden that thought this would help him win wavering votes.


BabyChimmyChangas

Agree to this? It’s a debate for the President of the United States. The suggestion that he didn’t have to do this and that would somehow be better for the country is absurd.


thisdesignup

Yes honestly it's good for everyone to see. To see that neither of them should be president. Unfortunately I doubt that is an option no matter how much I'd like it to be. But the fact that the key takeaway from all of this is that trump is bad and biden is old... does not look good in regards to election outcome. Still I don't get why anyone in this country thinks a 78 year old and an 81 year old should be running this country. Nobody is free from the effects of aging.


PowerfulPickUp

Hiding from debates wouldn’t look good either. He’s in a lose/lose situation.


sadeyeprophet

He's president lmao he has no choice


Zooxer77

Can the DNC still nominate someone else? ( serious question )


sstrevorson414

They can, but the DNC has a tradition of “don’t challenge the incumbent” so unless Joe steps down, it’s unlikely. I think they need to change both headliners on their ticket. Joe did not look good tonight so a vote for him is a seemingly likely to be a vote for his VP to take over at some point. It’s been a while since I’ve checked but I believe Kamala is even less popular than Joe so that won’t help their case. On the other side, Trump had much better presentation, but did his usual thing of trying to pass off easily verifiable falsehoods as truth. One of the analysts that was on right after the debate made a good point, it’s shaping up to be an election where one candidate shouldn’t be president, and the other candidate can’t be president.


Ok-Replacement9595

I personally think we need an old timey open convention where delegates horse trade on candidates. I watched a documentary on the primary in i think 1928, and it took like 4-5 days in the sweltering heat, and the frontrunners both left the convention on the second day, and by the end everyone settled on a dark horse candidate who wasn't in the running, it was cool. I hate the primary system we have, and candidates being decided by 3 states on the early ballots, and the media playing an outsized role in who is and isnt a "legitimate" candidate.


Deathismybitchlovur

Worlds not like that anymore and the DNC is absolutely not like that. Remember like or hate him Trump won his primaries, even the GOP higher ups didn’t want him in 2016 but he won. DNC made sure Hillary won while thanking you for your suggestion.


xmu806

“One candidate can’t be President and the other shouldn’t be president.” That is the single best summary of this election that I have heard.


ess-doubleU

A couple of Biden's own supporters on the CNN panel suggested this


lucysnakes

Yes. Technically the convention delegates in August can nominate someone else from the floor and several rounds of votes can be done before the magic number of delegates for a nomination is reached. After tonight, this is my hope.


primetimemime

WHAT THE FUCK WAS IN THAT CAN?!


Dr_Plecostomus

80 years.


DozenBiscuits

Fentanyl


IPromiseImNormall

Must have given him the presidential dose


JohnBunzel

These can’t be our only two options 🤦‍♂️


AdultishRaktajino

Giant douche vs turd sandwich sequel 7? 10?


CorpPhoenix

Could we just get a presidential candidate of the CURRENT generation, please? You know, someone who is 45-55 years old? Is this too much to ask for? I am in my mid 30s and my entire life felt like the Boomer generation REFUSING to give the steering wheel to the next generation. I see this at work, in politics, even in families where parents treat their sons and daughters like they were toddlers. At the same time, this older generation is completely overwhelmed and incompetent in the face of the challenges of the modern world and technologies. RETIRE AND LET US TAKE THE WHEEL


iusedtohavepowers

Right. I want to see someone just above the age requirement. Literally someone 35-45. Just to see what it's like for the country


Fragrant-Astronaut57

Damn how much alcohol was in it? He’s absolutely incomprehensible on stage. Mumblefest


TheHowlingHashira

Bros been cooked this whole debate man


SouthEastBerserker

Biden sounds likes going to die after this debate lol, holy shit the DNC should not have agreed to


AnthraxCat

When the moderator says he's only got 30 seconds left, it's ambiguous whether they mean time left in his answer or his mortal coil.


zignut66

It was the DNC’s idea to have this debate, believe it or not!


offendedkitkatbar

They fucked Bernie TWICE for this fucking garbage fire


neptunexl

The DNC is a joke, has been one since they screwed Bernie


IEatBabies

They always have been. I mean for god sake they though Hillary was going to win an election when half of her own party dislike her.


Electronic_Can_3141

Well, I’m sure it was before that but at least some of us figured it out then. Most figuring it out tonight.


joke-explainer-

Photos taken right before disaster*


Pointofive

r/lastimages


pdjddy

it's a drink that makes you slowly die live on cnn


juicenx

This didn’t age well.


johndoerecruit

Honestly amazed they were able to keep the charade up to their base for as long as they did.


ClearDark19

This is RBG and Dianne Feinstein all over again. The Weekend at Bernie's act is up because it's gotten so bad the body has gone into rigor mortis and is too stiff to believably move around anymore.


Rare_Message_7204

I don't think they gave him enough secret sauce for the debate. The guy is slurring every sentence.


custardbun01

Doesn’t look like it’s working for him 😅


Marmar79

lol if he had that before this debate you couldn’t pay me to drink it


Asabovesobelow778

He mixed it up with the can that has NyQuil in it. I mean, he needs to have a come to Jesus moment and drop out and let someone else run


Jamesatny

Maybe he should have had some of hunters crack before it


buttermbunz

Watching the debate live— the free world is fucked


KrustyKrabPizzaMan

“The planet is fine. The people are fucked” - George Carlin


elleeott

This is not going well for Biden.


Gingerstachesupreme

I mean it’s sad that we have to base the outcome on “energy”. Biden is sticking to the facts and keeping his head, just sounding old as fuck. Trump is just lying enthusiastically. And not answering half the questions, changing the subject constantly. To me, that speaks more about how he can’t handle complex issues or focusing at all


zekeweasel

Yeah, saying he was rated the best president ever was shocking to actually hear him say with a straight face.


[deleted]

I think they are gonna be recalling that drink.


elfy4eva

The man never drank a duff in his life


agiganticbrain

I'd also like to express my fondness for that particular beer


poingly

Boo!


CZar_P10

Has NO idea what’s going on.


BillLaswell404

It didn’t work.


BewareOfGrom

This aged so poorly so fast


WanderWut

I'm just shocked at what I witnessed tonight. It doesn't matter what WE think, it's the undecided voters that matter, and tonight was devastating.


EdliA

Why are you shocked though? We've seen him like this for quite a while now. It feels like a lot of you refused to accept it before or haven't really followed him.


FrogInAShoe

Liberals on reddit have been in denial about this for awhile now. They don't realize "anyone other than Trump" isn't the winning strategy they think it is.


Have_A_Jelly_Baby

If the secret sauce is stuttering and whispering, he clearly chugged the whole thing. And I say that as a blue as fuck voter. If the GOP had someone even remotely competent running, this would be a wash.


BreatheMyStink

It is decidedly caffeine free


jt_33

He maybe should have drank it lol.


Quirky-Inside1116

Wish we had better options


popsferragamo

I knew this debate would be a shit show but it has blown those expectations out of the water. Why did Biden talk about his golf handicap...?


ImBoredCanYouTell

Trump is lying, but Joe can barely speak and looks awful. This is horrific.


rbloedow

Too bad that not a fucking bottle of cough syrup w/ codeine.


JRockstar50

Well we know it isn't caffeinated


bdjohn06

Bro did they put chamomile tea in that can?


EscortSportage

Lost in the sauce


masman55

Would this account for his disaster of a performance?


External-Piccolo-626

He doesn’t know what he’s holding.


barefootbud

Poor guy. The imbeciles running this administration (it’s obviously not him) must think we’re all stupid.


Longhorn_TOG

most awake he looked all night.


butterburgerbutthead

This is what a dying empire looks like.


Fragrant_Excuse5

I hate living through historical events! I just wanna grill, for God's sake!


AVeryHairyArea

This did not age well in hindsight, lol. Kudos to his marketing team, but this man has no clue what's going on. And I say that as someone who does not want Trump to win. Democrats really screwed the pooch. If they ran anyone under the age of 60 they would have easily beat Trump.


peoplepersonmanguy

"That's my name!" he was heard saying.


ChromeBadge

Biden isn't fit to be president. 


MRFUR1OUS

I’d ask for a refund


scelerat

This photo is going to haunt us for the remainder of the republic.


PittsburghSS

So, about 15 minutes.


PracticalPianist4531

He looks so old


mrkruk

lol zero malarkey


Chronibitis

He slipped one in about twenty minutes in


buttered_jesus

I think it was expired


Bluesbrother504

Why is he inside one of those back of the truck tool boxes?