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Ok but I didn't gave this picture but animators gave her such giant ass that even series wikipedia asks question why and makes theory about why its so big
It scares me how if you write her name and series there will be around 5 yt videos with just fragments of movie people clipped where her rear is visable, its damn deer
I looked up pictures of this deer and it's ass is not that big. I also looked up the Wikipedia page and there is no mention of said ass. So what the fuck is this post and these comments???
,,It is never explained as to why Giselle's butt is so large, though it is most likely a result of gaining too much weight as her children do not sport anything similar. ''
https://openseason.fandom.com/wiki/Giselle
Idk why they can’t at least use real animals that work like that, like [fur seals](https://media.springernature.com/lw685/springer-static/image/chp%3A10.1007%2F978-3-030-63177-2_4/MediaObjects/484249_1_En_4_Fig1_HTML.jpg) or [blackbuck](https://as2.ftcdn.net/v2/jpg/00/86/82/15/1000_F_86821540_CKTrGmCG5GrRzjNip5iCdX5wsiVGrAmu.jpg)? You can tell which one is which, you don’t have to make it weird
I don’t know what kind of deers these are supposed to be but you’re right! Female reindeers and caribou have antlers. I just thought it was funny because he noticed them and I didn’t and would have based it on how they were drawn like the title implies haha
You can still tell them apart on their antler status though! Male reindeer shed their antlers in winter, and female shed in the summer. Thus all of Santas reindeer are female.
(Also reindeer and caribou are the same animal)
To be fair, there's a whole bit about why he walks on two legs in the first movie. And all the other deer walk on four, except for his kids. He's just a bit weird
Like others said Open Season. It's kind of strange and gross. Not gross in like a *weird* way, I mean that it's literally just kinda nasty. The most vivid memory I have of it is the bear vomiting overly detailed vomit onto a door.
I wouldn’t say “overly detailed”. IIRC, it’s just green slime with a couple of animal crackers, since he had been scarfing them down just moments prior, and was under the effects of a food binge.
ah, i guess i remember it as more detailed haha maybe because of how it icked me out. i just remember seeing it slide down and I think there were like fruit loops too? eeugh
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To be fair to HTTYD, she’s a light fury, which is a sub-species of the night fury. So the differences could be due to subspecies variation rather than gender variation. Is it still a bit sexist that the male dragon is night and the female dragon is light? Perhaps
Yeah but when interviewed the people making the Lightfury did state that they wanted to make her explicitly more feminine and girly. Obviously there’s nothing wrong with a sneaky design for the dragons but their reasoning was basically “because we need it to be a pretty girl”
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Ok, but this example really doesn't seem so bad? The female dragons features are still very similar to the male's. They rant a lot about realism but never consider that it might just be like... more visually appealing to have a stark contrast between colours here, both the "new" posters they showed looked way more boring than the original. I'm not saying they couldn't have gone in a more interesting direction with the design, but I wouldn't even assume that the main reason here was "Look, it's a girl version" but rather "Look, it's a second dragon of that species"
That post is making a huge deal over nothing tbh. They clearly never saw the film, and if they had then they’d know that the Light Fury is a variation of the Night Fury…just close enough related that they can interbreed. They’d also know that the coloring doesn’t matter because the Light Fury is capable of cloaking itself and its scales are reflective.
I'm sorry all of their suggestions were bland and unappealing and would never get approved.
There are far worse examples out there. This is just nitpicking.
Even as a kid I found these two being a couple disturbing. Why is the weird stag-human hybrid dating a real fucking deer? She can't even stand up and walk on two legs either btw, only he can.
It's just creepy.
I mean. I don't find it creepy. They both talk and have the same level of sentience. They're just anatomically different lol that's literally all. It WOULD be creepy if he was the only one that could speak though.
A living animal breathing animal who's not anthro is a LOT worse and more wierd than an inanimate object like a doll. Also if she was anthro and equally intelligent and just she specifically was mute for some reason but otherwise communicated in some ways that could be okay and just her having a phsyical disability but yeah I assume they meant if she was just a normal animal. Also if they were equally intelligent but only one learned to stand and talk to humans for example while no ither animals did (which apparently is close since the main character is the only deer who can stand on two legs) than that would also be okay, and identical to meowth in pokemon who the anime showed teaching himself to act like a human. He can still understand pokemon even though the audience can't and has had a crush on another meowth and also has had attacks like charm work on him if I remember right.
It sure is a shame that deer don't already have a very noticeable gender difference...
(Well...some deer...there are some species in which both sexes have antlers... in reindeer it varies with the season. Males have antlers in the summer when they're fighting for females, females have antlers during winter when raising their young)
I find it tells a lot that they designed him to be more articulate and not her. Her arms are bound to be her legs as though her whole point of *existence* is to be the passive, non-actionable romantic object. Which is true in the way that this is just a movie that was written this way, but it also says a lot about the people who made this.
Damn, this is a cartoon and it’s bringing in gender roles with these depictions: Men and their big stinking mouths symbolizing “leadership” and “delivering directions,” meanwhile women with their giant ears symbolizing “listener” and “follower of directions.”
I think that, for fairness’ sake, in shows where they give female animals breasts they should also give the male animals a fat package. For the sake of equality
I think it's very normal to anthropomorphise animals in cartoons, especially if they made for kids. Kids can process human faces and emotions and without different looks it would be very hard to tell the characters apart, it would be only their voice. I think it's also normal to somehow use stereotypes when you create such characters. Without this it would be hard to relate to the characters. It's not a documentary at the end.
We must never forget society's vast and diverse history of pointless gendering! We must always be able to point out good examples in case someone denies it or accuses us of exaggerating! Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it!
As somebody kinda from furry fandom, anything four legged and made to look ,,attractive'' is disturbing as hell. And even if she would walk like him she would still be ugly af
Huh? Sorry if you thought that was passive agressive. Mayby I wrote it in less calm tone then I intended, In my mind I was writing it in light hearted way
I don't get it. What's wrong with the image? This isn't my usual haunt, i come from popular. I'ts a dude deer who looks like hes about to tell you about a horrible idea he has and the Dudette deer who looks like shes about to apologize for him.
Downvote me instead of explain that should help.
They are mad because the animals are not gender fluid bisexual lesbians who are also trans and asexual/aromantic sex neutral autists with adhd and childhood trauma.
Is not that using physical characteristics to let the audience know which is male and which is female is wrong. After all animals have those characteristics naturally to tell them apart.
But this one is done poorly. The male dear is more anthropomorphic (has human like characteristics like walking in 2 legs), and also all their details are opposites in a way that's not harmonious. They look like 2 different species and not like male and female from the same one.
Of course cartoons tend to exaggerated features, but this one takes it too far. It just looks ugly.
If we take a different movie, like puss in boots, you can tell who's male and female but they both still look like cats. If we are talking about older movies Oliver and Company, Balto, and Spirit all do a good job of differentiating the 2 and making them look cohesive
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Where's her boobies!?!? How can we know for sure without them tig ol' biddies
Ok but I didn't gave this picture but animators gave her such giant ass that even series wikipedia asks question why and makes theory about why its so big
It scares me how if you write her name and series there will be around 5 yt videos with just fragments of movie people clipped where her rear is visable, its damn deer
The only things certain in life are death, taxes, and people being *really* thirsty on the internet.
Nothing certain but death and taxes, so I guess you'd better get some practice.
I looked up pictures of this deer and it's ass is not that big. I also looked up the Wikipedia page and there is no mention of said ass. So what the fuck is this post and these comments???
,,It is never explained as to why Giselle's butt is so large, though it is most likely a result of gaining too much weight as her children do not sport anything similar. '' https://openseason.fandom.com/wiki/Giselle
That is not Wikipedia.
Ok, fine, I wanted to say ,,Wiki'' but my brain was half fried from intense heat of sun. Happier?
From the massive heat or from staring at some absolute deer cake?! *Sinner*
Something tells me it isn't the sun that fried it.
That is not Wikipedia. Looks like you just meant wiki
hmm, yes, that’s deplorable, show me.
Also no eyelashes, no lipstick and no dress. Help
She’s not pink! Help, I’m so confused!
No she’s got the eyelashes
Whatever you do, dont look up Harry Potter snitties
Tale as old as time, the lady animals are always drawn prettier.
I dunno. Both of these character models are kinda terrible to look at.
She looks like she makes clones for the Republic
magnificent....
Shoulda given her massive deer honkers just in case. Milky zeppelins. Ya know, just in case.
Idk why they can’t at least use real animals that work like that, like [fur seals](https://media.springernature.com/lw685/springer-static/image/chp%3A10.1007%2F978-3-030-63177-2_4/MediaObjects/484249_1_En_4_Fig1_HTML.jpg) or [blackbuck](https://as2.ftcdn.net/v2/jpg/00/86/82/15/1000_F_86821540_CKTrGmCG5GrRzjNip5iCdX5wsiVGrAmu.jpg)? You can tell which one is which, you don’t have to make it weird
Because it's a kid's movie. They aren't trying to realistically depict animals, they're trying to tell a story using animals as a framing device.
How is not treating the female character equally even remotely better than literally changing the color of the guy's fur.
I mean it’s just him, all the other male deer are stylized more normally like the girl deer is
I asked my 7 year old how he knows which one is the girl and which is the boy, and he said the boy has antlers and the girl doesn’t. So.
Aren’t there types of deer or smth like reindeer where both genders have antlers? Idk I swear I learnt this somewhere
I don’t know what kind of deers these are supposed to be but you’re right! Female reindeers and caribou have antlers. I just thought it was funny because he noticed them and I didn’t and would have based it on how they were drawn like the title implies haha
You can still tell them apart on their antler status though! Male reindeer shed their antlers in winter, and female shed in the summer. Thus all of Santas reindeer are female. (Also reindeer and caribou are the same animal)
Ah thanks! Didn’t know that!
That explains why I associate that line of Santa’s reindeer being female with that fact!
Why is he standing like a person and she’s not
To be fair, there's a whole bit about why he walks on two legs in the first movie. And all the other deer walk on four, except for his kids. He's just a bit weird
He had kids? Is the deer on the right the mom?
Yup
What is this movie called again?
Open Season
it’s a franchise called open season. there are 3 movies open season 1-3
There is unfortunately a 4th too
tf you mean “unfortunately”?? They’re fuckin’ cinematic masterpieces
I didn’t mind the first and second to be honest
oh god
Just for us old folk, what is this movie?
Open Season. Took me too long to realize its not Bear Season, and that was literal translation in my country
In my country it's called "Hunting Fever"
Like others said Open Season. It's kind of strange and gross. Not gross in like a *weird* way, I mean that it's literally just kinda nasty. The most vivid memory I have of it is the bear vomiting overly detailed vomit onto a door.
I wouldn’t say “overly detailed”. IIRC, it’s just green slime with a couple of animal crackers, since he had been scarfing them down just moments prior, and was under the effects of a food binge.
ah, i guess i remember it as more detailed haha maybe because of how it icked me out. i just remember seeing it slide down and I think there were like fruit loops too? eeugh
open season
He looks so deranged lmfao
That is his entire personality lol 
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To be fair to HTTYD, she’s a light fury, which is a sub-species of the night fury. So the differences could be due to subspecies variation rather than gender variation. Is it still a bit sexist that the male dragon is night and the female dragon is light? Perhaps
Yeah but when interviewed the people making the Lightfury did state that they wanted to make her explicitly more feminine and girly. Obviously there’s nothing wrong with a sneaky design for the dragons but their reasoning was basically “because we need it to be a pretty girl”
No argument there! The tumblr post just felt off-putting to me by referring to both as night furies which I felt was misleading :)
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That rabbit is a goddamn jumpscare
Omg I have to read it
"Not even Bambi is free from my wrath."
Ok, but this example really doesn't seem so bad? The female dragons features are still very similar to the male's. They rant a lot about realism but never consider that it might just be like... more visually appealing to have a stark contrast between colours here, both the "new" posters they showed looked way more boring than the original. I'm not saying they couldn't have gone in a more interesting direction with the design, but I wouldn't even assume that the main reason here was "Look, it's a girl version" but rather "Look, it's a second dragon of that species"
That post is making a huge deal over nothing tbh. They clearly never saw the film, and if they had then they’d know that the Light Fury is a variation of the Night Fury…just close enough related that they can interbreed. They’d also know that the coloring doesn’t matter because the Light Fury is capable of cloaking itself and its scales are reflective.
Not really as bad They aren’t even completely the same species for a start
I'm sorry all of their suggestions were bland and unappealing and would never get approved. There are far worse examples out there. This is just nitpicking.
She doesn’t have false lashes and eyeliner, so I’m not certain which one is which /s
And no deer boobs, how would anyone ever figure it out?
How would you like your head squished today?
Even as a kid I found these two being a couple disturbing. Why is the weird stag-human hybrid dating a real fucking deer? She can't even stand up and walk on two legs either btw, only he can. It's just creepy.
I mean. I don't find it creepy. They both talk and have the same level of sentience. They're just anatomically different lol that's literally all. It WOULD be creepy if he was the only one that could speak though.
That’d be like sex-doll weird if she couldn’t talk at all 😳
A living animal breathing animal who's not anthro is a LOT worse and more wierd than an inanimate object like a doll. Also if she was anthro and equally intelligent and just she specifically was mute for some reason but otherwise communicated in some ways that could be okay and just her having a phsyical disability but yeah I assume they meant if she was just a normal animal. Also if they were equally intelligent but only one learned to stand and talk to humans for example while no ither animals did (which apparently is close since the main character is the only deer who can stand on two legs) than that would also be okay, and identical to meowth in pokemon who the anime showed teaching himself to act like a human. He can still understand pokemon even though the audience can't and has had a crush on another meowth and also has had attacks like charm work on him if I remember right.
Are you joking?
children: males have antlers
It sure is a shame that deer don't already have a very noticeable gender difference... (Well...some deer...there are some species in which both sexes have antlers... in reindeer it varies with the season. Males have antlers in the summer when they're fighting for females, females have antlers during winter when raising their young)
Is it for gender or to highlight different character traits through through exaggeration? What do other male deer look like in the franchise?
The two genders: sleek and crackhead
male one has a personality
this is by far one of the worst images I've ever seen on the internet
I find it tells a lot that they designed him to be more articulate and not her. Her arms are bound to be her legs as though her whole point of *existence* is to be the passive, non-actionable romantic object. Which is true in the way that this is just a movie that was written this way, but it also says a lot about the people who made this.
Girls have relatively finer features, can't you tell..
I mean deer have a lot of sexual dimorphism this isn't the best example, especially because she's a boobless freak!
That’d be horrifying considering since she’s on all fours they’d have to give her all four tits. Wait-
Uhhhh, antlers?
There's no pink bow or large eyelashes, so that's a dude
It’s a funny movie
Let's not lie. One of those deer are way more fuckable then the other.
One has an antler and one doesn’t
Kaminoan deer.
I have one male and one female cat and I sometimes joke that they look like how animated b-films tends to design male and female animals, haha.
The deer has a heart ass.
You've got a good point but Open Season is funny as hell
I remember watching this as a kid and being confused bc I thought she was a different species bc they look so dang different
Damn, this is a cartoon and it’s bringing in gender roles with these depictions: Men and their big stinking mouths symbolizing “leadership” and “delivering directions,” meanwhile women with their giant ears symbolizing “listener” and “follower of directions.”
This one haunts me.
I think that, for fairness’ sake, in shows where they give female animals breasts they should also give the male animals a fat package. For the sake of equality
Why is the male so goofy lookinn 
I think it's very normal to anthropomorphise animals in cartoons, especially if they made for kids. Kids can process human faces and emotions and without different looks it would be very hard to tell the characters apart, it would be only their voice. I think it's also normal to somehow use stereotypes when you create such characters. Without this it would be hard to relate to the characters. It's not a documentary at the end.
What was her name again?
gunther, no.
Giselle
We really got nothing better to post than a nearly 20 year old children’s movie?
Look, I just randomly got reminder of this movie and thought about this subreddit. No bigger logic or anything
Well I personally think there's nothing wrong to post about it. It fits the sub and I personally had completely forgotten about this movie anyways.
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It’s just the secret Hollywood Cabal pushing Big Furrys agenda. Gotta keep making suspiciously attractive animals to add to their ranks
As somebody kinda from furry fandom, anything four legged and made to look ,,attractive'' is disturbing as hell. And even if she would walk like him she would still be ugly af
Calm down it was very clearly a joke lol, I promise I don’t think there’s a shadowy furry deep state group influencing film.
Huh? Sorry if you thought that was passive agressive. Mayby I wrote it in less calm tone then I intended, In my mind I was writing it in light hearted way
Depends what time of year this photo was taken as the females have antlers in the winder and the males have them in the summer.
That’s reindeer. They’re not reindeer
I don't get it. What's wrong with the image? This isn't my usual haunt, i come from popular. I'ts a dude deer who looks like hes about to tell you about a horrible idea he has and the Dudette deer who looks like shes about to apologize for him. Downvote me instead of explain that should help.
The movie itself was a horrible idea honestly
Yeah, feel like I'm missing a photo here?! Male and female deers look different and this image has captured that?
They are mad because the animals are not gender fluid bisexual lesbians who are also trans and asexual/aromantic sex neutral autists with adhd and childhood trauma.
Incredible how you managed to come to a post with a terrible take and ruin it with an even worse take.
Y’know, my boomer dad used to say shit like this.
Can you explain how is that "pointless"? Is it wrong to have characters that are not gender fluid and all that other bs you came up with?
Is not that using physical characteristics to let the audience know which is male and which is female is wrong. After all animals have those characteristics naturally to tell them apart. But this one is done poorly. The male dear is more anthropomorphic (has human like characteristics like walking in 2 legs), and also all their details are opposites in a way that's not harmonious. They look like 2 different species and not like male and female from the same one. Of course cartoons tend to exaggerated features, but this one takes it too far. It just looks ugly. If we take a different movie, like puss in boots, you can tell who's male and female but they both still look like cats. If we are talking about older movies Oliver and Company, Balto, and Spirit all do a good job of differentiating the 2 and making them look cohesive