The hardest final battle I had out of all of Scarlet’s story arcs was the *Arven* fight of all things. The guy who is supposed to be bad at battling and just makes sandwiches. I came in underleveled and he kicked my ass.
The chuckle I had when he opened with Greedant disappeared the moment it used earthquake. I was underleveled, and was beaten so badly that I resorted to poison spikes and revive spam after using all the exp candies I was saving on clodsire.
e: Greedant not Skyovet
I've seen this a lot. I'm guilty too, rushed the Path of Legends, faced Arven 15 levels behind, got slapped and had to return after completing the other two paths. Was unlocking all ride modes too tempting? Or the Titan quest was too short and/or easy? Are the Titans not strong enough?
To be honest I got lost in the path to Bombirdier and ended finding Great Tusk instead. So I accidentally ended facing it second after Klawf. I beat it with Kilowattrel in the mid/high twenties and wasn't particularly difficult. Later I realized Great Tusk was actually the second strongest Titan and level 45. I faced it too soon and yet it wasn't that much of a challenge - which makes me think the Path of Legends turned out easier than what GF intended and as a result people are completing it too soon.
For me it was more "I need to help him save this doggo asap" than anything else. They cant tell us this quest is to save a dying dog and not expect us to drop everything else immediately!
Exactly this. At first I was like, cool upgrades for Miraidon. Then we get hit with a GameFreak curveball and oop btw Arven has a dying dog he is trying to save and I’m just like “………………………………….. EXCUSE ME”
And then when the dog didn't die, and we all relaxed and thought 'oh, yeah, it's Pokemon, Gamefreak wouldn't do anything serious like that' the game hit us with 'oh, yeah, Arven's parent has actually been dead all along.'
Still less traumatic than if they'd killed the pup, though.
Arven literally has to deal with the biggest amount of bullsit. He watches a form of his parent leave forever after hearing they love him for the first time, AND learning their real parent is dead. Then he is given no chance to grieve. This also happening after his new friends brush off his friendship story with the MC. Which is about saving his pokemon's life.
Like, idk, but Arven kinda has some serious villain background potential right there.
Yup. I thought it was super cute how Koraidon wanted to help cheer him up but dude, read the room. Especially considering that Koraidon (or Miraidon) spent the entire game working through the physical and emotional fallout from the same incident that resulted in Sada/Turo's death. Sandwich draggo, at the very least, should understand that complicated feelings need time to be worked through.
^(Time and magic sandwiches.)
I actually got double rolled.
I faced the elite four with a team in their late 40's and my ace at like 53 and got bodied.
Then I blitzed the path of legends while getting some levels under my belt only for Mr Sandwhich to pull out a strong ass team.
Honestly this playthrough was the most fun I've had in a pokemon game in a long time. It was so refreshing to not be overleveled the entire time and just mash A to beat the game.
Same. I was Not expecting a team in the 60s and his stupid plant jellyfish rolled half my team with earth power.
Although, this might be due to the fact that, as soon as I learned there was a doggo in trouble, I essentially dropped the other two storylines and rushed to make him better. I just didn't realize I'd be battling him at the lighthouse.
Definitely a blow to my 'leet Trainer vibes' getting rolled by sandwich guy. But at the same time? Good for sandwich guy. My team was legit and he shrugged me off like Ash Ketchum in the Indigo League.
I think I won against Arven because my Garganacl had Sturdy so I got one extra attack in. I went down to judt my Starter against Nemona’s but mine was faster.
The level jump is insane. I knew when I saw the level of his Pokémon go up after I was already 5 levels below his greedent, that I was done for. Still won because palafin though
Lol only 5 , i was on the 50 on my highest Mon and was the starter , the other i swapped around to not have super over leveled and they were on the 40s
For me both Arven and Nemona almost completely wiped my team, they were surprisingly difficult.
Penny was also difficult but that’s because I was distracted by her banger of a theme.
Penny was the easiest imo. Eeveelutions by themselves arent really strong mons. I think they added Clive in that path just before her to balance that difficulty.
It had less to do with Eeveelutions being bad and moreso her movesets were awful. Every single one was running Baby Doll Eyes and Quick Attack
Though I guess it’s a story point - Penny isn’t meant to be a good trainer, and unlike Arven she never went on any sort of journey which would prompt her to get stronger. She even admits she stands no chance of winning but was only battling for the pride of Team Star
arven whipped my shit the first time cause i walked in 10 levels under him and i had to go use some exp candies to make it more even lol, nemona almost had me cause i was about 5 levels under her team, penny got completely dunked on because she just let me set up +6 attack on my ceruledge. about to walk into area zero. may report back if anything within embarasses me
The coverage was insane with Turo’s team! I had to use healing items! I never do that! But I felt it would be justified in-story as it’s not just an honor battle. Spent so many revives!!
My Armarouge destroyed most of Sada's team and I was a couple levels below hers. That thing hits like a truck, have decent defenses, and Dark pulse got me some lucky flinches. It was funny when I burnt her something something bonnet (paradox amoonguss) to a crisp and she was like: uh, so you understand paradox pokémon weaknesses?
The only pokémon it couldn't faint was Roaring moon, but Tinkaton shamed it to no end.
Arven got that *DAWG* in him for real. Between leaving Area 0 with an injured Mobastiff and duking it out with titan pokemon using pokemon that he just happens to find in the area, I wouldn't be surprised if he decides to go take the gym challenge
I like to imagine that Arven became so heavily possessed by rage and protectiveness for Mabosstiff that he just punched his way out of Area 0 with the paradox mons backing off to not end up becoming the next ingredients for his sandwiches.
I finished the Titan quest line while I still had three gyms and two star bases. I was really underleveled for him, and had to come back.
Nemonia was the easiest. My Annihilape soloed her after having a good battle with the elite 4 immediately before.
It's so funny because the game tries to insist that he's bad at battling yet his pokemon are all level 60 something by the end of the game meaning he's one of the stronger trainers lmao
The reason why he was (emphasis on "was") bad at battling was because before the story begins, he only ever had Mabosstiff and never bothered catching or raising anything else because he didn't care about battling. When he needed to start battling to save Mabosstiff, he conjured some major anime protagonist energy to start catching random mons at the titan locales, developing a team and battle skills to become one of the best in Paldea.
I was thinking: "Oh wow, battling right after curing Mabosstiff is kind of weird but if you're both up for it then it's fine. It's not like you'll even be comparable to the titans."
Lo and behold, a lvl 62 fat squirrel started to harass my lvl 54-ish team, making me realize what it's like to be an NPC trainer fighting an overleveled player.
Oh.
Uh, I beat him with sub-level 50 mons. Took almost the whole team of 6, though. Torkoal, Meowscarada, Ceruledge, Arboliva, Hatterene, and Annihilape.
It’s kind of brutal that the game is super easy 6v1’s 90% of the time when any actual test of skill is at least 6v4. You wind up being super unprepared because the game never expects anything from you (until it does)
I did well against Arven
The final boss fight though
I thought I was going to lose, I pulled through and then the boss just goes "but wait, there's more"
Omg me too. I had just switched some of my mons to weaker ones I wanted to level up. I hardly won that fight. Good thing green catto is my strongest one.
I don't know why the game tricked us all like this, but his team is solid. Nothing out of this world, but it had it's bases covered and it required effort to beat. He'd probably beat Geeta, if given the chance and equally leveled pokemen
My only fail entire game was the fairy star base, I went to go level up before trying again, and thought I’d go check out the Pokémon league to see if there were opportunities to do that there. Didn’t think I was ready to pursue fully though, just wanted to see if there were trainers on the way.
Accidentally beat the final four, still needed some help on that stupid base after 😂
Same here. Came into the fight 12 levels below his, and only pulled out a win thanks to my hyper potion super soaker. I rolled Cassiopeia and only lost two to Nemona
And spoilers: I stopped grinding after I finished all 3 paths, roughly level 65-66. Turo absolutely wrecked me. I only pulled out a win thanks to my undead doggo and nuking his last 3 with a full powered, tera Last Respects.
Arven battle and the battle before Star boss (Star boss being laughably easy after the previous fight). I was level 55 when I tackled both. Champion was easier than all of them and easier than E4.
She also says something along the lines of 'It may be unbecoming of someone in my position, but I'm afraid I literally cannot hold back in pokemon battles."
You sure, Geeta?
She really gave herself the top champion rank despite being weaker than every normal champion and made it impossible for the rank to be taken away, and still had the nerve to deliver that line with nothing to back it up
That’s the point isn’t it? You’re the only one that can beat Nemona. So if she could hold back and still beat Geeta, then you should be able to do the same.
I assumed part of being Top Champion was handling the administrations of the league. Larry often commented about reporting to her on various matters
Even if Nemona is better than her at battling, she’s still in school
I think that’s just a coincidence, she handles all of that because she’s strong and business savvy and an adult, but her title being the Top Champion makes NO sense when the only other Champions we learn of (ourselves and Nemona) wipe the floor with her, I get if someone wasn’t stronger than her they wouldn’t be a Champion at all, but the fact there are still supposed to be many Champions out there really doesn’t look good for her
Put Glimmora first and Kingambit last. Suddenly you’ve got a much better team.
She’s super weak to fire though. Armarouge is strong against, what, 4 of her Pokémon?
Yep, honestly a player with either Armarouge or Skeledirge almost had an auto-win button for that fight. The only thing stopping a sweep is Veluza as by the time Glimmora comes out you probably stacked enough boosts to plow right through it.
I imagine it's because they wanted her to terastalize her star Pokemon, and doing so at the end of a battle is more climactic. Unfortunately that means, despite being top champion, she doesn't take advantage of her own star Pokemon as much as she could be, lol
I clicked Earth Power as soon as Glimmora came in but for a terrifying second I thought “…what if it terastallizes into a Flying type” but no, it died.
Bugsy actually predates Guzma at this - he outright leads with his ace Scyther to hit you with a free U-Turn
Because your level access is absurdly low at that point of the game, it’s actually a really dangerous threat
Similarly, Elesa's signature pokemon is meant to be the Emolga, and she uses it first on all fights except the Poke World Tournament, because the concept of her whole party is Volt Switching over and over.
With that said she did have two of them in the first game, so I dunno how accurate this is.
>Two unsung chads and Kings of the battlefield
Two bug type experts too. Never underestimate the creepy crawlers' potential
>Someone, give them (Champion status) their crowns already!
Guzma honestly does deserve to be the champion and I'll die on this hill.
Legit was hoping for a small Guzma cameo this Gen (and last Gen) but alas, it did not happen 🥲 Also, highly doubt he'll show up in the DLC. I just wanna see how ya boi is doing!
First, Ya Boi is on another level from that scrub!
Next an interesting idea I heard on Reddit is that Paldea just, isn't as in to Pokemon as the rest of the world. There is emphasis on the Gym Leaders having other interests or just doing their job (coughs) Larry (coughs). Then Paldea's league seems very relaxed on their positions.
I think it would be funny if another High ranking league member from another region shows up and just wrecks everyone.
If i recall, Team Rocket trio are actually strong asf to a mind boggling extent, but because they hard focus so much on only Ash and use weird mecha gimmicks, they're rarely ever shown dealing with anyone else. And when they do deal with other people, they tend to be extremely competent.
Basically, if they stopped obsessing over a pikachu, they'd be villain team boss tier criminal powerhouses, especially with the rosters they've accrued. In another passing thought, it's hilariously likely that the reason they keep on failing vs Ash is because they're hyper feeding his teams exp on a daily basis.
If Larry has enough time in his busy schedule to use two different teams as a gym leader and an e4, then Geeta can at least put her pokeballs in the right order.
Her bad leadership is the reason the paldea league is in such sorry shape.
Other regions have grand monuments for their league. Paldea has an office.
my heart sank when i saw the room where you battle the elite 4. Gen 5 and 6 are two that come to mind as having super cinematic and memorable league rooms
Honestly, it's such a lackluster and bland room that it actually feels fitting for the region. Everything in Paldea feels corporate and sterile. From the Pokecenters running ads on them, while all being basically gas stations, to the fact that the Gym Leaders all have real jobs on top of their positions as Gym Leaders, to the very beginning of the game where the school commercial is about as generic inspirational as it gets.
This isn't Galar with its grand, over the top, broadcasted to the world, Gym Challenge. This isn't Kalos with its flair (*cough* Flare). This isn't even Unova, with its Dragon lore and political strife caused by Team Plasma.
This is the pre-packaged, government approved, Gym Challenge experience. Where they give you a job interview before even letting you challenge the Elite 4, in case you're one of the undesirables who doesn't deserve the title.
yeah thats a great observation. I have no clue why they’d go with the bland office aesthetic. There is zero appeal about that shit but i guess it’s easy for them to make.
Geeta should have picked strong Pokemon instead of putting Gogoat, Avalugg, and pretty much everything else except for Kingambit in her team
Leon got Haxorus, Aegislash, and Dragapult, why the fuck is Geeta using Gogoat unironically
TBH Glimora is pretty strong... **as a hazard setting lead**, but the issue is that she's using it **as her last resort ACE** when that role should have been Kingambits!
I wish her team had more paldean mons.
My thought is-
Palafin lead (flip turn out) ->
Glimmora
Ceruledge (scarlet) or armarouge (violet)
Gholdengo
Espartha
End with Kingambit which goes tera dark into a sucker punch.
That makes a team that reps paldea and shows you a bunch of pokemon you've probably missed.
I thought the exact same with the charcadet line. Do the opposite one so the player can use theirs and duke it out. Espartha also bugs me cause Tulip used one in her team
I faced her in that school tourny, thinking she would have some new pokemon on her team....nope....same ones in the same order lol. I took that personally
One or two videos might be funny, but aside from that it’s really repetitive and definitely staged. He claimed to rematch a guy from his most popular video a few months later but the name has different capitalization.
I don't have any personal grudges against the guy, just not a fan of his content is all. I will say I don't like this his content perpetuates the stereotype of every competitive player being a pompous asshole who takes cartoonishly evil delight in beating low ladder players. Play 100 games on Showdown, you'll find most people rarely speak in chat, and if they do it's usually just a quick "glhf" and "gg"
You have to beat the TOP champion, who apparently is physically unable to not try her absolute hardest in every battle, to become a normal champion? And you can’t gain the top champion rank?
Yeah this one doesn’t make all that much sense to me. If every champion has to beat her in order to earn their Champion title, then she has lost to every other trainer who currently holds that title. She’s the *Bottom* Champion.
I think it would have been better if they never let on she was Champion rank, just the Chairwoman, and have the requirement be "defeat another champion in an official match." Then build it up that your final opponent will be Nemona. When you finally beat the Elite Four, then she says, "Sorry, Nemona can't make it today your final test will be against *me*." Then have the reveal of "You have challenged Top Champion Geeta!"
It's a position , as other said it's more of a job than a this is yeh strongest person in the region and it makes a whole lot more sense as champion here is just a rank imagine it is like getting on (insert highest non numbered rank) in other games like league or what ever it's just you are this good and we don't have a full on leaderboard anyone that beats her is champion rank but they might have different skill levels.
And her job is just that be like the leader of the league and not get replaced when a kid beat her
Geeta should have just been the chairwoman of the league and not a trainer. Her job would have been to scout promising trainers and host the league interview (instead of Rika). She even could have been a trainer that battled you multiple times (like a rival) as part of her scouting.
I low-key wish Larry had been the champion tbh, because he's the best, but they probably felt they needed a female champion after what was essentially 2 gens of male champions.
But really, Tyme is my top candidate. The story is already there: she recently retired as gym leader to take the position of top champion and focus on her teaching career (Hassel does it, don't tell me it's not possible).
They could have made it a mystery until the end, dangling the other teachers in front of you as red herrings with optional dialogue with other students: "Have you heard? The top champion works at the academy. Who do you think it is?"
It would have been funny as hell to walk into the champion fight and see your math teacher. Any of your teachers, to be honest. That's actually what I thought would happen, when I first saw how much personality they all had, only to be disappointed as soon as I saw Geeta (it was so obvious she was the champion). What a wasted opportunity.
As hilarious as champion Larry would be it doesn't suit his character. He's an overworked salaryman who hates his boss. Even if Champion doesn't make you the boss, it still is a position of status.
Sure, I just like him.
>overworked salaryman
You know, I think if they had played up the whole "Geeta's a hardas$ who runs the pokemon league with an iron fist, overworking her staff, etc" I would have liked her a lot more. As it stands Geeta has no personality that makes her stand out. And the champions should. Even Diantha, arguably the least notable of all the champions (except maybe Iris, but I don't really count her as she only took over for Alder), was at least memorable for the fairy type and for being an actress.
>It would've been funny as hell to walk into the champion room and see your math teacher
"Solve 5x^2 + 81x + 76 =v0, only then will I send out my first Pokémon"
I’m not that bothered by it from the standpoint of her being the last step in the test before you reach “Champion rank”. She isn’t *the* Champion. She even says Nemona beat her and Geeta could tell she was holding back. Nemona is the real champion.
The fact that she doesn’t have Glimmora as her opener (or flip-turn Palafin into Glimmora) is the real missed opportunity. She could still do Rock Tera Type Kingambit as the closer, which makes more strategic and thematic sense to me.
Have you ever fought against a glimmorra? Toxic spikes level 2 for the whole champion battle was probably too hard for children. I agree it was too easy and could have been a bit less nerfed but I don't think this was thoughtless.
Cynthia just has good and high level pokemon, more comparable to the final boss of SV. Toxic debris requires game knowledge to counter, both in that you need to understand how the ability works to not set the spikes up, and/or need to be familiar with the spikes mechanics enough to deal with the spikes once set.
The answer to cynthia is "just have better pokemon lol." Easy for a child to understand.
The answer to glimmora is "use a non contact move to not trigger debris, or switch in a poison type to absorb the spikes for free." Much more difficult of a solution, hard for a child to understand why they're losing and what they could do better.
She has a Kingambit who's ability powers him up for every fainted party member, so having Toxic Spikes early on and then having a buffed up samurai at the end of the fight would have been way harder and memorable
Kingambit would have been a way cooler last mon too, and making him tera to something that fucks over Fighting or Bug would be one last method of screwing all the people who keep forgetting the tera mechanic.
Geeta was unremarkable in general. I thought she had a really interesting design but she's not really likable. She's "top champion" even after it's been stated Nemona beat her easily and she doesn't even use her Pokemon right. Ironically Larry has more personality than she does and her personality can be summed up as "I'm the chairwoman". She also seemed a bit snobby to me based on some of the dialogue. Lastly she always says she has a lot of work to do...but what exactly does she do? The things in the game she would be responsible for gets pushed onto other people.
She could've had an entire team dedicated to poisoning, retreating and force swapping -- but I guess that's not very elegant of a champion rank to do?
I agree though, and while her "ace" wasn't exactly a threat, I can see why her hairstyle is as such. Enjoy Quaquaval's Aqua Step while you're at it, Primera!
My copium is that they're holding back the true Geeta fight for the DLC in which she inevitably becomes a villain and will fight us with her full capability - starting with Glimmora and ending with Kingambit.
Please, her team consists of a Veluza, a Glimmora, an Espartha and a Kingambit. That's the sort of Pokemon a villain team boss would use.
This would actually be a great twist. Totally unhinged Geeta with a competitive team EV/IVs, Glimmora lead and Kinggambit revenge killer. Then Nemona takes over as Top Champion since she has some experience from running the Ace Academy tournaments.
For me there is nothing to save on Geeta, neither design nor character nor battle (or theme) she is BY FAR the worst "champ" we've ever got, and that's in a game that (appart from the obv. points to criticise) I liked a lot.
The ONE saving grace is, that she is not the actuall Champ. Shes called that, but the actual champ is Nemona and we after the game.
Geeta is a commentary on people in the top spots who don't deserve the spot, that's my take on it. Everyone fucking hates her and she sucks at battling. Clearly, she shouldn't be in the Champion position or CEO position.
I mean I think she works perfectly as a CEO aspect, you see her doing her job pretty well throughout the game- although she probably should be getting some subordinates to do some of her job.
As Top Champion… I feel like “Top Champion” is a bit of a stretch, it makes sense as she is the Champion with the job of “Top Champion” to test you but she isn’t particularly super strong.
I do like how the E4 + Champion is more realistically structured, the gyms, E4 + Champion are actual *jobs* in this game so it makes sense not anyone can replace them even though some people are stronger than them(…ignoring the literal toddler). Didn’t really understand what the E4 + Champion’s role was in previous games- especially Champion, considering the Champion was just willy nilly replaced in some gens.
I really don't get the toddler , it was the one thing that left me like wtf , how has this kid even been alive enough to make a team of pokemon even less get to be E4
Guzma was great. Just having type and level advantage over him didn't guarantee a win, because he had First Impression+ Emergency Exit, Shadow Sneak/Sucker Punch etc.
There was actually difficulty in beating him because of priority moves and tactics. Rather than just his Pokémon hitting harder than yours too.
True chad. He ain't a brute, but a sneaky tactics bro. Send your kisses to your boy
EDIT: Guzma was also awesome in anime. He was wasted as a character and antagonist, unfortunately, but his fights stand as the best in series alongside with Platinum league (Ash vs Darkrai/Latios) and Kalos league (Alan vs Ash)
I’m convinced there is a lore reason behind glimmora being her ace. It’s the only Pokémon in paldea with any lore mentioned relating it terastal. It’s also the only “normal” Pokémon you encounter in the area zero story when unlocking the gate. The others are paradoxes.
Why? Glimmora is given a lot of attention in the game? Usually the ace of trainer is one the closest to the trainer. Glimmora being Greta’s closest Pokémon has a lot of implications. Statewise and moveset wise it was not designed to be an Ace. Pokémon games may be easier but the last few champions did not have aces like this.
My current theory is that she knows more about terastalizing than others and possibly about the third legendary.
Well, Emergency Exit kinda screwed him in the anime. Legitimately thought the dude was about to violently beat his starter when he exited his Scizor partner into a fire attack.
My head cannon is this:
She leads with Glimmora which has toxic spike and stealth rock.
She also has a Gholdengo to prevent trainers from removing hazards and as a replacement for Avalugg.
She can keep Espathra and Veluza because they’re Gen 9.
Instead of Gogoat she has Arboliva because I’d like to see all Gen 9 Pokémon and she could pass for Greek even though the region is based on Spain.
Finally Kingambit would be her ace and she would send out it all boosted up after all her other Pokémon has fainted.
They didn't do anything to them. It was replacing the original game's EXP mechanics with the shitty Gen 5 onwards EXP mechanics that had the side effect of them being leveled higher than your team.
I hate that the games always program Pokémon with any gimmicks attached to be sent out last because most of the time it would be more beneficial for them to be sent out earlier
it was talked about a lot here already, but sending her glimmora first and make kingambit her ace (which is so much more fitting to be one) and sending him last would have made this battle a lot more difficult.
Quick way to fix Geeta while keeping her ace the same andatching her up better to the world:
Change Gogoat (gogoat, really?) into Arboliva.
Change Avalugg (the only thing more ridiculous than gogoat) into Gholdengo.
(Now she has all Gen 9 pokes, and gives the player a teaser of Gholdengo in game)
Send Glimmora out first. Have it do Glimmora things.
Kingsgambit is last. Just as Kingsgambit comes out (and gets the boosts) she uses a max revive on Glimmora.
Send Glimmora and do Terra rock.
I get the impression Geeta isn't actually that good at battling. The Pokémon League seems much less important to Paldea than it is in other regions, kind of like comparing soccer's importance in other countries vs the USA. I have no doubt that Nemona would replace Geeta as "La Primera" soon after graduation, and the League would suddenly become much more prominent.
Game Freak was so close to making her an absolute monster like Cynthia. Imagine if Glimmora was sent out first, and set up Stealth Rock, Spikes, and Toxic Spikes. Imagine if her team had max IVs/EVs (I also forget the difference between the two) for specific stats. Gilmmora would be super tanky for example
She should have used almost completely different pokemon imo. This team would have worked better imo.
Palafin
Cyclizar
Glimmora
Farigiraf
Annihilape
Kingambit
So far I've decided to replace her game team ( Alongside most of all the games teams. I've done this for ALL Generations ) with...
MY choice for her new Team is...Glimmora. Gardevoir. Gholdengo. Palafin. Electross. Kingambit.
The hardest final battle I had out of all of Scarlet’s story arcs was the *Arven* fight of all things. The guy who is supposed to be bad at battling and just makes sandwiches. I came in underleveled and he kicked my ass.
I'm glad I'm not the only one on this. I was not ready for him to roll me, particularly knowing his entire team coming in.
The chuckle I had when he opened with Greedant disappeared the moment it used earthquake. I was underleveled, and was beaten so badly that I resorted to poison spikes and revive spam after using all the exp candies I was saving on clodsire. e: Greedant not Skyovet
Mabosstiff just has that DAWG yknow
I was NOT expecting that Fire Fang when I sent out my Scizor.
I wasn’t ready for the play rough against my pawmot
You should always expect a Fire Fang when you send out Scizor hahaha
Fun fact, it's built to deal with all the starters.
I won with Skeledirge and had to Tera into pure Fire so that his Crunch wasn't super-effective and just barely didn't KO.
I caught Chien Pao by then so Arven was a cakewalk.
I've seen this a lot. I'm guilty too, rushed the Path of Legends, faced Arven 15 levels behind, got slapped and had to return after completing the other two paths. Was unlocking all ride modes too tempting? Or the Titan quest was too short and/or easy? Are the Titans not strong enough? To be honest I got lost in the path to Bombirdier and ended finding Great Tusk instead. So I accidentally ended facing it second after Klawf. I beat it with Kilowattrel in the mid/high twenties and wasn't particularly difficult. Later I realized Great Tusk was actually the second strongest Titan and level 45. I faced it too soon and yet it wasn't that much of a challenge - which makes me think the Path of Legends turned out easier than what GF intended and as a result people are completing it too soon.
For me it was more "I need to help him save this doggo asap" than anything else. They cant tell us this quest is to save a dying dog and not expect us to drop everything else immediately!
It became "my dog is healed, now i'm gonna use it to beat the shit out of you" real fast
Exactly this. At first I was like, cool upgrades for Miraidon. Then we get hit with a GameFreak curveball and oop btw Arven has a dying dog he is trying to save and I’m just like “………………………………….. EXCUSE ME”
And then when the dog didn't die, and we all relaxed and thought 'oh, yeah, it's Pokemon, Gamefreak wouldn't do anything serious like that' the game hit us with 'oh, yeah, Arven's parent has actually been dead all along.' Still less traumatic than if they'd killed the pup, though.
Arven literally has to deal with the biggest amount of bullsit. He watches a form of his parent leave forever after hearing they love him for the first time, AND learning their real parent is dead. Then he is given no chance to grieve. This also happening after his new friends brush off his friendship story with the MC. Which is about saving his pokemon's life. Like, idk, but Arven kinda has some serious villain background potential right there.
Yup. I thought it was super cute how Koraidon wanted to help cheer him up but dude, read the room. Especially considering that Koraidon (or Miraidon) spent the entire game working through the physical and emotional fallout from the same incident that resulted in Sada/Turo's death. Sandwich draggo, at the very least, should understand that complicated feelings need time to be worked through. ^(Time and magic sandwiches.)
Straight facts
I actually got double rolled. I faced the elite four with a team in their late 40's and my ace at like 53 and got bodied. Then I blitzed the path of legends while getting some levels under my belt only for Mr Sandwhich to pull out a strong ass team. Honestly this playthrough was the most fun I've had in a pokemon game in a long time. It was so refreshing to not be overleveled the entire time and just mash A to beat the game.
I struggled with the earth titan because half my team was weak to ground.
I tried the earth titan as my second titan. Big mistake
I took out the False Dragon Titan fourth and took out the Orthworm last, which made the latter real easy :p
You and me both lol, False Dragon is where I realized the true potential of Nacli and its evos
Yeah had to cheese that fight by setting up on his greedent cause I was insanely behind on levels
It’s not cheesing, he has fodder and you took advantage of it
Oh no I used like 5 full restores and had to intimidate swap on it before getting the long boi in. It was very much a cheese
Same. I was Not expecting a team in the 60s and his stupid plant jellyfish rolled half my team with earth power. Although, this might be due to the fact that, as soon as I learned there was a doggo in trouble, I essentially dropped the other two storylines and rushed to make him better. I just didn't realize I'd be battling him at the lighthouse. Definitely a blow to my 'leet Trainer vibes' getting rolled by sandwich guy. But at the same time? Good for sandwich guy. My team was legit and he shrugged me off like Ash Ketchum in the Indigo League.
I think I won against Arven because my Garganacl had Sturdy so I got one extra attack in. I went down to judt my Starter against Nemona’s but mine was faster.
For some reason, I’m laughing at you calling him sandwich guy lol
i accidentally fought him the first time and i had a team of 6 mausholds. trust me when i say his girant minecraft rock bodypressed me to hell
Breaking News: Small village of mice decimated by salt creature
It was an absolute moussacre.
The level jump is insane. I knew when I saw the level of his Pokémon go up after I was already 5 levels below his greedent, that I was done for. Still won because palafin though
Lol only 5 , i was on the 50 on my highest Mon and was the starter , the other i swapped around to not have super over leveled and they were on the 40s
Only that? When I battled Arven for the first time my whole team was in the 30s
For me both Arven and Nemona almost completely wiped my team, they were surprisingly difficult. Penny was also difficult but that’s because I was distracted by her banger of a theme.
Penny was the easiest imo. Eeveelutions by themselves arent really strong mons. I think they added Clive in that path just before her to balance that difficulty.
It had less to do with Eeveelutions being bad and moreso her movesets were awful. Every single one was running Baby Doll Eyes and Quick Attack Though I guess it’s a story point - Penny isn’t meant to be a good trainer, and unlike Arven she never went on any sort of journey which would prompt her to get stronger. She even admits she stands no chance of winning but was only battling for the pride of Team Star
She probably used her hacking skills to steal some Exp/Rare Candies to get her Eevees to that level.
You're mistaken. Clive is the student. Director Clavell is the one that battles you.
I’m so glad we finally have an eeveelution trainer. So cool
Wasn't there one in USUM? I feel like there was
There was group of Eeveelution trainerz, each having different - eon.
arven whipped my shit the first time cause i walked in 10 levels under him and i had to go use some exp candies to make it more even lol, nemona almost had me cause i was about 5 levels under her team, penny got completely dunked on because she just let me set up +6 attack on my ceruledge. about to walk into area zero. may report back if anything within embarasses me
Final boss might be pretty tough
I don't know, Sada's fight was freaking brutal with how strong those Paradox Pokemon of hers ended up being for me.
I'm surprised no one is talking about Sada vs Turo's teams given that they use completele different mons. Who's better between the two?
In sheer Power? Sada, you try to take a hit from Flutter Mane and a D-Danced Roaring Moon. In Coverage, Turo. Man’s got coverage out the door.
The coverage was insane with Turo’s team! I had to use healing items! I never do that! But I felt it would be justified in-story as it’s not just an honor battle. Spent so many revives!!
In general i refrained from switching when an opponent’s new mon was sent out. but for this is said “screw this i just have to survive at all costs”
I had the exact same reasoning when I beat it yesterday lol
It’s a good thing I had the insane wall that is Dondozo so I could revive more team members… Garganacl was also a solid defensive presence
My Armarouge destroyed most of Sada's team and I was a couple levels below hers. That thing hits like a truck, have decent defenses, and Dark pulse got me some lucky flinches. It was funny when I burnt her something something bonnet (paradox amoonguss) to a crisp and she was like: uh, so you understand paradox pokémon weaknesses? The only pokémon it couldn't faint was Roaring moon, but Tinkaton shamed it to no end.
I feel like almost everyone has the same story of immediately dropping everything to save Mabostiff, levelling be damned
Arven got that *DAWG* in him for real. Between leaving Area 0 with an injured Mobastiff and duking it out with titan pokemon using pokemon that he just happens to find in the area, I wouldn't be surprised if he decides to go take the gym challenge
I like to imagine that Arven became so heavily possessed by rage and protectiveness for Mabosstiff that he just punched his way out of Area 0 with the paradox mons backing off to not end up becoming the next ingredients for his sandwiches.
I finished the Titan quest line while I still had three gyms and two star bases. I was really underleveled for him, and had to come back. Nemonia was the easiest. My Annihilape soloed her after having a good battle with the elite 4 immediately before.
I had two Gym Badges and one Star Badge when I beat all five titans!
It's so funny because the game tries to insist that he's bad at battling yet his pokemon are all level 60 something by the end of the game meaning he's one of the stronger trainers lmao
The reason why he was (emphasis on "was") bad at battling was because before the story begins, he only ever had Mabosstiff and never bothered catching or raising anything else because he didn't care about battling. When he needed to start battling to save Mabosstiff, he conjured some major anime protagonist energy to start catching random mons at the titan locales, developing a team and battle skills to become one of the best in Paldea.
I was thinking: "Oh wow, battling right after curing Mabosstiff is kind of weird but if you're both up for it then it's fine. It's not like you'll even be comparable to the titans." Lo and behold, a lvl 62 fat squirrel started to harass my lvl 54-ish team, making me realize what it's like to be an NPC trainer fighting an overleveled player.
Oh. Uh, I beat him with sub-level 50 mons. Took almost the whole team of 6, though. Torkoal, Meowscarada, Ceruledge, Arboliva, Hatterene, and Annihilape. It’s kind of brutal that the game is super easy 6v1’s 90% of the time when any actual test of skill is at least 6v4. You wind up being super unprepared because the game never expects anything from you (until it does)
This just happened to me, got mopped up by this man. Guess I have to train my pokes up a bit more.
I did well against Arven The final boss fight though I thought I was going to lose, I pulled through and then the boss just goes "but wait, there's more"
Same I barely won that one. Geeta couldn’t even take out one of my Pokémon.
Omg me too. I had just switched some of my mons to weaker ones I wanted to level up. I hardly won that fight. Good thing green catto is my strongest one.
I was not underleveled and she still almost kicked my ass lmao Edit: she is a she, not a he 🤦🏻♂️
I don't know why the game tricked us all like this, but his team is solid. Nothing out of this world, but it had it's bases covered and it required effort to beat. He'd probably beat Geeta, if given the chance and equally leveled pokemen
For me it was Eri. I came in underleveled and she dominated me twice.
My only fail entire game was the fairy star base, I went to go level up before trying again, and thought I’d go check out the Pokémon league to see if there were opportunities to do that there. Didn’t think I was ready to pursue fully though, just wanted to see if there were trainers on the way. Accidentally beat the final four, still needed some help on that stupid base after 😂
Same here. Came into the fight 12 levels below his, and only pulled out a win thanks to my hyper potion super soaker. I rolled Cassiopeia and only lost two to Nemona And spoilers: I stopped grinding after I finished all 3 paths, roughly level 65-66. Turo absolutely wrecked me. I only pulled out a win thanks to my undead doggo and nuking his last 3 with a full powered, tera Last Respects.
Arven battle and the battle before Star boss (Star boss being laughably easy after the previous fight). I was level 55 when I tackled both. Champion was easier than all of them and easier than E4.
I finished the titans quest first and got stomped bad by Arven
Same. The level curve in this game is dogshit.
She also says something along the lines of 'It may be unbecoming of someone in my position, but I'm afraid I literally cannot hold back in pokemon battles." You sure, Geeta?
It's easy to hold back your skill if there isn't much to hold back.
She really gave herself the top champion rank despite being weaker than every normal champion and made it impossible for the rank to be taken away, and still had the nerve to deliver that line with nothing to back it up
It’s extra funny because after you beat her, she admits she knew Nemona was holding back when she stomped her.
That’s the point isn’t it? You’re the only one that can beat Nemona. So if she could hold back and still beat Geeta, then you should be able to do the same.
I assumed part of being Top Champion was handling the administrations of the league. Larry often commented about reporting to her on various matters Even if Nemona is better than her at battling, she’s still in school
I think that’s just a coincidence, she handles all of that because she’s strong and business savvy and an adult, but her title being the Top Champion makes NO sense when the only other Champions we learn of (ourselves and Nemona) wipe the floor with her, I get if someone wasn’t stronger than her they wouldn’t be a Champion at all, but the fact there are still supposed to be many Champions out there really doesn’t look good for her
Put Glimmora first and Kingambit last. Suddenly you’ve got a much better team. She’s super weak to fire though. Armarouge is strong against, what, 4 of her Pokémon?
Yep, honestly a player with either Armarouge or Skeledirge almost had an auto-win button for that fight. The only thing stopping a sweep is Veluza as by the time Glimmora comes out you probably stacked enough boosts to plow right through it.
I imagine it's because they wanted her to terastalize her star Pokemon, and doing so at the end of a battle is more climactic. Unfortunately that means, despite being top champion, she doesn't take advantage of her own star Pokemon as much as she could be, lol
I mean, she could have two Glimmoras. Lance was never shy about just having three Dragonites lol.
Sure but Lance also literally cheats
At least Lance was challenge
Damn imagine Geeta terastalizing Kingambit while maximizing Supreme Overlord ability
Especially since terastalizing it would help its quad weakness to fighting. I took it out easily with Annihilape
A flying type tera kingambit would've been a bit more of a challenge
I clicked Earth Power as soon as Glimmora came in but for a terrifying second I thought “…what if it terastallizes into a Flying type” but no, it died.
Yeah and a terrastilizing into rock isn't going to scare me either. It even gains one weakness after having done so.
Bugsy actually predates Guzma at this - he outright leads with his ace Scyther to hit you with a free U-Turn Because your level access is absurdly low at that point of the game, it’s actually a really dangerous threat
Similarly, Elesa's signature pokemon is meant to be the Emolga, and she uses it first on all fights except the Poke World Tournament, because the concept of her whole party is Volt Switching over and over. With that said she did have two of them in the first game, so I dunno how accurate this is.
Zebstrika is Elesa's ace and no amount of propaganda from anyone - including Pokemon and Gamefreak - will ever change that.
Two unsung chads and Kings of the battlefield. Someone, give them (Champion status) their crowns already!
>Two unsung chads and Kings of the battlefield Two bug type experts too. Never underestimate the creepy crawlers' potential >Someone, give them (Champion status) their crowns already! Guzma honestly does deserve to be the champion and I'll die on this hill.
Agreed, mate! If we won't have a vs Champion Guzma fight sometime in a future it'll be so damn sad! Also, creepy crawlers power!
Legit was hoping for a small Guzma cameo this Gen (and last Gen) but alas, it did not happen 🥲 Also, highly doubt he'll show up in the DLC. I just wanna see how ya boi is doing!
She needs to consult with a real G (literally)
Guzma “The Real G” Guzma
Real
First, Ya Boi is on another level from that scrub! Next an interesting idea I heard on Reddit is that Paldea just, isn't as in to Pokemon as the rest of the world. There is emphasis on the Gym Leaders having other interests or just doing their job (coughs) Larry (coughs). Then Paldea's league seems very relaxed on their positions. I think it would be funny if another High ranking league member from another region shows up and just wrecks everyone.
Like the unbeatable leon
Ash-beatable apparently
Beaten by Ash? What a scrub. Team Rocket actually legit beat him in Sun and Moon.
If i recall, Team Rocket trio are actually strong asf to a mind boggling extent, but because they hard focus so much on only Ash and use weird mecha gimmicks, they're rarely ever shown dealing with anyone else. And when they do deal with other people, they tend to be extremely competent. Basically, if they stopped obsessing over a pikachu, they'd be villain team boss tier criminal powerhouses, especially with the rosters they've accrued. In another passing thought, it's hilariously likely that the reason they keep on failing vs Ash is because they're hyper feeding his teams exp on a daily basis.
Team Rocket are actually amazing trainers, especially in B&W and S&M. I legit think they would be hard to deal with in a game
Ash is the goat
Yeah the whole thing is quite chill, but then don't make the champion start the fight by saying that her character flaw is "going too hard on people"
Its not her fault. Guzma is destruction in human form. Geeta is an overworked business lady. He's just too above her level of strategy.
If Larry has enough time in his busy schedule to use two different teams as a gym leader and an e4, then Geeta can at least put her pokeballs in the right order. Her bad leadership is the reason the paldea league is in such sorry shape. Other regions have grand monuments for their league. Paldea has an office.
my heart sank when i saw the room where you battle the elite 4. Gen 5 and 6 are two that come to mind as having super cinematic and memorable league rooms
Honestly, it's such a lackluster and bland room that it actually feels fitting for the region. Everything in Paldea feels corporate and sterile. From the Pokecenters running ads on them, while all being basically gas stations, to the fact that the Gym Leaders all have real jobs on top of their positions as Gym Leaders, to the very beginning of the game where the school commercial is about as generic inspirational as it gets. This isn't Galar with its grand, over the top, broadcasted to the world, Gym Challenge. This isn't Kalos with its flair (*cough* Flare). This isn't even Unova, with its Dragon lore and political strife caused by Team Plasma. This is the pre-packaged, government approved, Gym Challenge experience. Where they give you a job interview before even letting you challenge the Elite 4, in case you're one of the undesirables who doesn't deserve the title.
yeah thats a great observation. I have no clue why they’d go with the bland office aesthetic. There is zero appeal about that shit but i guess it’s easy for them to make.
Literally ya boi Guzma
Geeta should have picked strong Pokemon instead of putting Gogoat, Avalugg, and pretty much everything else except for Kingambit in her team Leon got Haxorus, Aegislash, and Dragapult, why the fuck is Geeta using Gogoat unironically
TBH Glimora is pretty strong... **as a hazard setting lead**, but the issue is that she's using it **as her last resort ACE** when that role should have been Kingambits!
I wish her team had more paldean mons. My thought is- Palafin lead (flip turn out) -> Glimmora Ceruledge (scarlet) or armarouge (violet) Gholdengo Espartha End with Kingambit which goes tera dark into a sucker punch. That makes a team that reps paldea and shows you a bunch of pokemon you've probably missed.
I thought the exact same with the charcadet line. Do the opposite one so the player can use theirs and duke it out. Espartha also bugs me cause Tulip used one in her team
Don't think any important NPC uses Tauros so she could have even had a Tauros instead
There is an important NPC that uses all 3 forms of new Tauros in the tournament.
I faced her in that school tourny, thinking she would have some new pokemon on her team....nope....same ones in the same order lol. I took that personally
Theory: Geeta is one of those players who went up against temp6t
“You are such a noob” *loses*
I'm cackling so hard at this
What's the community's opinion on him, I personally like him.
He’s like wrestling, you know it’s bullshit, but it’s entertaining bullshit if you’re like 10-14
I’m still trying to figure out that Combee Dual Wingbeat.
252+ Atk Choice Band Hustle Combee Dual Wingbeat (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Blaziken-Mega: 340-408 (112.9 - 135.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Seriously? That really sounds like it shouldn’t happen. *Especially* with Combee’s base attack.
One or two videos might be funny, but aside from that it’s really repetitive and definitely staged. He claimed to rematch a guy from his most popular video a few months later but the name has different capitalization.
I don't have any personal grudges against the guy, just not a fan of his content is all. I will say I don't like this his content perpetuates the stereotype of every competitive player being a pompous asshole who takes cartoonishly evil delight in beating low ladder players. Play 100 games on Showdown, you'll find most people rarely speak in chat, and if they do it's usually just a quick "glhf" and "gg"
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You have to beat the TOP champion, who apparently is physically unable to not try her absolute hardest in every battle, to become a normal champion? And you can’t gain the top champion rank?
Yeah this one doesn’t make all that much sense to me. If every champion has to beat her in order to earn their Champion title, then she has lost to every other trainer who currently holds that title. She’s the *Bottom* Champion.
She is more like the champion/league manager/organizer
I think it would have been better if they never let on she was Champion rank, just the Chairwoman, and have the requirement be "defeat another champion in an official match." Then build it up that your final opponent will be Nemona. When you finally beat the Elite Four, then she says, "Sorry, Nemona can't make it today your final test will be against *me*." Then have the reveal of "You have challenged Top Champion Geeta!"
It's a position , as other said it's more of a job than a this is yeh strongest person in the region and it makes a whole lot more sense as champion here is just a rank imagine it is like getting on (insert highest non numbered rank) in other games like league or what ever it's just you are this good and we don't have a full on leaderboard anyone that beats her is champion rank but they might have different skill levels. And her job is just that be like the leader of the league and not get replaced when a kid beat her
This and also Nemona is underage. And aside from Blue and Iris all champions have been adults or older teens at least
The whole league challenge just reads like an extended interview process for the champion rank. Gamefreak tricked us into applying for a job.
I mean, she wiped out 5/6 of Wolfey's team with just her Espathra.
And my randomly caught, bad nature, no EV/IV trained Ceruledge wiped out 5/6 of her team!
My heracross one shot her entire team
Maybe the "top" is referring to her role as the administrator of champion duties. Because it certainly isn't due to battling prowess, that's for sure.
Geeta should have just been the chairwoman of the league and not a trainer. Her job would have been to scout promising trainers and host the league interview (instead of Rika). She even could have been a trainer that battled you multiple times (like a rival) as part of her scouting. I low-key wish Larry had been the champion tbh, because he's the best, but they probably felt they needed a female champion after what was essentially 2 gens of male champions. But really, Tyme is my top candidate. The story is already there: she recently retired as gym leader to take the position of top champion and focus on her teaching career (Hassel does it, don't tell me it's not possible). They could have made it a mystery until the end, dangling the other teachers in front of you as red herrings with optional dialogue with other students: "Have you heard? The top champion works at the academy. Who do you think it is?" It would have been funny as hell to walk into the champion fight and see your math teacher. Any of your teachers, to be honest. That's actually what I thought would happen, when I first saw how much personality they all had, only to be disappointed as soon as I saw Geeta (it was so obvious she was the champion). What a wasted opportunity.
But that would mean less Rika and I cannot accept that reality
Facts
Oh, right, Rika would've made a good champion too.
As hilarious as champion Larry would be it doesn't suit his character. He's an overworked salaryman who hates his boss. Even if Champion doesn't make you the boss, it still is a position of status.
Sure, I just like him. >overworked salaryman You know, I think if they had played up the whole "Geeta's a hardas$ who runs the pokemon league with an iron fist, overworking her staff, etc" I would have liked her a lot more. As it stands Geeta has no personality that makes her stand out. And the champions should. Even Diantha, arguably the least notable of all the champions (except maybe Iris, but I don't really count her as she only took over for Alder), was at least memorable for the fairy type and for being an actress.
Diantha and alder are from different regions tho? Alder is the champion of Unova and Diantha is Kalos.
>It would've been funny as hell to walk into the champion room and see your math teacher "Solve 5x^2 + 81x + 76 =v0, only then will I send out my first Pokémon"
> (instead of Rika). How about **NO**. If anything we need *more* Rika!
I’m not that bothered by it from the standpoint of her being the last step in the test before you reach “Champion rank”. She isn’t *the* Champion. She even says Nemona beat her and Geeta could tell she was holding back. Nemona is the real champion. The fact that she doesn’t have Glimmora as her opener (or flip-turn Palafin into Glimmora) is the real missed opportunity. She could still do Rock Tera Type Kingambit as the closer, which makes more strategic and thematic sense to me.
Unfortunately GF couldn't be bothered to put some thought into it.
Have you ever fought against a glimmorra? Toxic spikes level 2 for the whole champion battle was probably too hard for children. I agree it was too easy and could have been a bit less nerfed but I don't think this was thoughtless.
“Probably a little too hard for children” This guy never fought Cynthia lmao
Cynthia just has good and high level pokemon, more comparable to the final boss of SV. Toxic debris requires game knowledge to counter, both in that you need to understand how the ability works to not set the spikes up, and/or need to be familiar with the spikes mechanics enough to deal with the spikes once set. The answer to cynthia is "just have better pokemon lol." Easy for a child to understand. The answer to glimmora is "use a non contact move to not trigger debris, or switch in a poison type to absorb the spikes for free." Much more difficult of a solution, hard for a child to understand why they're losing and what they could do better.
you can use items in game so that's no excuse. Pokemon was harder.
She has a Kingambit who's ability powers him up for every fainted party member, so having Toxic Spikes early on and then having a buffed up samurai at the end of the fight would have been way harder and memorable
Kingambit would have been a way cooler last mon too, and making him tera to something that fucks over Fighting or Bug would be one last method of screwing all the people who keep forgetting the tera mechanic.
It's so unfortunate they never used alternate tera types for bosses in this game. The E4 would've been a perfect chance to show it off.
Geeta was unremarkable in general. I thought she had a really interesting design but she's not really likable. She's "top champion" even after it's been stated Nemona beat her easily and she doesn't even use her Pokemon right. Ironically Larry has more personality than she does and her personality can be summed up as "I'm the chairwoman". She also seemed a bit snobby to me based on some of the dialogue. Lastly she always says she has a lot of work to do...but what exactly does she do? The things in the game she would be responsible for gets pushed onto other people.
She could've had an entire team dedicated to poisoning, retreating and force swapping -- but I guess that's not very elegant of a champion rank to do? I agree though, and while her "ace" wasn't exactly a threat, I can see why her hairstyle is as such. Enjoy Quaquaval's Aqua Step while you're at it, Primera!
My copium is that they're holding back the true Geeta fight for the DLC in which she inevitably becomes a villain and will fight us with her full capability - starting with Glimmora and ending with Kingambit. Please, her team consists of a Veluza, a Glimmora, an Espartha and a Kingambit. That's the sort of Pokemon a villain team boss would use.
This would actually be a great twist. Totally unhinged Geeta with a competitive team EV/IVs, Glimmora lead and Kinggambit revenge killer. Then Nemona takes over as Top Champion since she has some experience from running the Ace Academy tournaments.
And she was not that flesh out yet, I am actually expecting this. She caught that glimmora while messing around in Area Zero.
For me there is nothing to save on Geeta, neither design nor character nor battle (or theme) she is BY FAR the worst "champ" we've ever got, and that's in a game that (appart from the obv. points to criticise) I liked a lot. The ONE saving grace is, that she is not the actuall Champ. Shes called that, but the actual champ is Nemona and we after the game.
Geeta is a commentary on people in the top spots who don't deserve the spot, that's my take on it. Everyone fucking hates her and she sucks at battling. Clearly, she shouldn't be in the Champion position or CEO position.
I mean I think she works perfectly as a CEO aspect, you see her doing her job pretty well throughout the game- although she probably should be getting some subordinates to do some of her job. As Top Champion… I feel like “Top Champion” is a bit of a stretch, it makes sense as she is the Champion with the job of “Top Champion” to test you but she isn’t particularly super strong. I do like how the E4 + Champion is more realistically structured, the gyms, E4 + Champion are actual *jobs* in this game so it makes sense not anyone can replace them even though some people are stronger than them(…ignoring the literal toddler). Didn’t really understand what the E4 + Champion’s role was in previous games- especially Champion, considering the Champion was just willy nilly replaced in some gens.
I really don't get the toddler , it was the one thing that left me like wtf , how has this kid even been alive enough to make a team of pokemon even less get to be E4
Guzma was great. Just having type and level advantage over him didn't guarantee a win, because he had First Impression+ Emergency Exit, Shadow Sneak/Sucker Punch etc. There was actually difficulty in beating him because of priority moves and tactics. Rather than just his Pokémon hitting harder than yours too.
True chad. He ain't a brute, but a sneaky tactics bro. Send your kisses to your boy EDIT: Guzma was also awesome in anime. He was wasted as a character and antagonist, unfortunately, but his fights stand as the best in series alongside with Platinum league (Ash vs Darkrai/Latios) and Kalos league (Alan vs Ash)
I’m convinced there is a lore reason behind glimmora being her ace. It’s the only Pokémon in paldea with any lore mentioned relating it terastal. It’s also the only “normal” Pokémon you encounter in the area zero story when unlocking the gate. The others are paradoxes. Why? Glimmora is given a lot of attention in the game? Usually the ace of trainer is one the closest to the trainer. Glimmora being Greta’s closest Pokémon has a lot of implications. Statewise and moveset wise it was not designed to be an Ace. Pokémon games may be easier but the last few champions did not have aces like this. My current theory is that she knows more about terastalizing than others and possibly about the third legendary.
Well, Emergency Exit kinda screwed him in the anime. Legitimately thought the dude was about to violently beat his starter when he exited his Scizor partner into a fire attack.
Bugsy in HGSS also leads with his ace, because of his new signature move being U Turn Cynthia sends her ace whenever she feels like
Cynthia's thought process *"Mmmmh... That guy looks like he could use a nightmare or two, let's make that happen"*
My head cannon is this: She leads with Glimmora which has toxic spike and stealth rock. She also has a Gholdengo to prevent trainers from removing hazards and as a replacement for Avalugg. She can keep Espathra and Veluza because they’re Gen 9. Instead of Gogoat she has Arboliva because I’d like to see all Gen 9 Pokémon and she could pass for Greek even though the region is based on Spain. Finally Kingambit would be her ace and she would send out it all boosted up after all her other Pokémon has fainted.
Maybe Gamefreak is doing this as an apology for what they to did to the Elite Four & Cynthia in pokemon Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl
They didn’t make that though
Exactly. Outsourcing the games is the crime they're apologizing for.
The e4 and champion were the best parts of those games. Cynthia's team fully comp built? Yes please
They didn't do anything to them. It was replacing the original game's EXP mechanics with the shitty Gen 5 onwards EXP mechanics that had the side effect of them being leveled higher than your team.
The entire E4 should just have been dropped, but I agree with your point. Also she should have the Tauros that's not in your version.
Never disrespect Larry like that ever again! >:(
I don’t think Larry would feel very disrespected. He hated his E4 position
The man was told to reduce his overtime and then Geeta has him fill in the e4. Horrible management.
I hate that the games always program Pokémon with any gimmicks attached to be sent out last because most of the time it would be more beneficial for them to be sent out earlier
Why did her team feel so random ? I had more trouble against the ice gym or even any of the elite four
it was talked about a lot here already, but sending her glimmora first and make kingambit her ace (which is so much more fitting to be one) and sending him last would have made this battle a lot more difficult.
Quick way to fix Geeta while keeping her ace the same andatching her up better to the world: Change Gogoat (gogoat, really?) into Arboliva. Change Avalugg (the only thing more ridiculous than gogoat) into Gholdengo. (Now she has all Gen 9 pokes, and gives the player a teaser of Gholdengo in game) Send Glimmora out first. Have it do Glimmora things. Kingsgambit is last. Just as Kingsgambit comes out (and gets the boosts) she uses a max revive on Glimmora. Send Glimmora and do Terra rock.
It’s also funny to me that her Kingambit has strength from the fallen but comes out after like 2 mons are dead.
I get the impression Geeta isn't actually that good at battling. The Pokémon League seems much less important to Paldea than it is in other regions, kind of like comparing soccer's importance in other countries vs the USA. I have no doubt that Nemona would replace Geeta as "La Primera" soon after graduation, and the League would suddenly become much more prominent.
Game Freak was so close to making her an absolute monster like Cynthia. Imagine if Glimmora was sent out first, and set up Stealth Rock, Spikes, and Toxic Spikes. Imagine if her team had max IVs/EVs (I also forget the difference between the two) for specific stats. Gilmmora would be super tanky for example
She should have used almost completely different pokemon imo. This team would have worked better imo. Palafin Cyclizar Glimmora Farigiraf Annihilape Kingambit
Geeta was a joke. Her entire team, except for Glimmora, was weak to and one-shot by my starter, Skeledirge.
So far I've decided to replace her game team ( Alongside most of all the games teams. I've done this for ALL Generations ) with... MY choice for her new Team is...Glimmora. Gardevoir. Gholdengo. Palafin. Electross. Kingambit.
why do people make these posts like geeta was real and would see this? GF wanted it to be easy and so it was