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NewJerseyCPA

Guys, I’m legitimately depressed about this. The more I read about it the worse I feel. What the fuck happened to the world we live in?


[deleted]

The bad guys won


pontiacfirebird92

The tolerance of intolerance won


Nyktophilias

Popper would be disappointed.


usps_made_me_insane

When people ask me what is stronger, hate or love, I tell them to use them in a sentence and reverse them -- see who comes out on top. I hate to love. (negative -- hate wins) I love to hate. (negative -- hate wins) Therefore, hate is stronger than love.


some_guy_on_drugs

And tens of millions rejoiced. This next election will really decide how long the death rattle will be.


[deleted]

Maga has the source code to the voting machines. It's already over


bellaimages

No, it's the bad guys won a battle, but they have not won the War! Game on! We still have time to turn this around!


invalid_uses_of

How do you suggest overturning a supreme court decision?


bellaimages

Vote for Democrats who are Pro-Democracy in order to replace the MAGA cult that is in Congress. We need a majority in Congress. We also must keep a Democrat in the White House, and Trump out! Then we can start to repair the Supreme Court by holding the two who are unethical and biased accountable by impeachment. It is a fact that the Supreme Court has been known to overturn a decision, although rare. Congress can also enact laws to repair our Democracy. Never give up hope!


LeopoIdStotch

Also: we have to do all of this, every time, forever. We have to win EVERY time; fascism only has to win once.


rebelwanker69

And not just presidential elections but local small government elections like Governors and Mayors hell even school boards need are votes to make sure Christian fascists don't get a chance to bring about project 2025


The-state-of-it

Have Biden make PR a state immidiately. Pack the court. . .


TaciturnIdiom

Democrats dont give a shit about democracy or they wouldn't have pushed a geriatric puppet as their candidate


bellaimages

"Come on man!" How did we get here? Let me tell you. Biden won the 2020 election. That is a FACT! Trump claimed the election was stolen from him and continued to make that false claim. Then when he saw that he might be held accountable, he decided to run claiming Biden was doing a terrible job. {Wrong) So why would we not have reelected Trump in 2020 if he was doing such a great job himself? Trump runs again, and Biden decides to stick it our for another term when if it were someone else running, from the Republican side he would have stepped aside. You call Biden a "geriatric puppet" well another FACT is that Trump is no better. The difference is that Trump has a bunch of long dyed hair he combs over and orange face make up that he puts on himself. He is shy of 3 years younger than Biden, so they could have been in the same high school together. The biggest difference is Trump wants to be a dictator. If one steps down, then they both should step down. The debate did not change many minds. I'm still going to vote for Biden, or if the Democrats do nominate someone else, I will vote for that person against Trump. The ONLY thing that could change my mind is if Trump were to step down and someone else who was NOT connected to the MAGA Cult were to run in his place. With the Trump family now running the RNC, that ain't gonna happen. The GOP is self destructing.


TaciturnIdiom

Oh they both suck and obviously trump sucks more. The republicans have almost completely foregone any appearance of caring about democracy and the democrats are now showing they also dgaf. Befuddled geriatrics that shouldnt be in control of a car have no place running the country and neither do criminals. Foisting an obviously unfit candidate upon the citizens and telling them they should vote for this bad candidate because the other guy is worse is a betrayal of the people and lifts the curtain on the sham democracy your country claims to be so proud of. Congrats suckers damned if you do damned if you dont.


Biden_Rulez_Moron46

Bidens policies have been an overall success, he’s probably the most progressive president we’ve had in decades. But yeah he doesn’t present well enough so he’s just as bad as a wanna be dictator. Democracy is over because Biden mutters and fumbles. Cmon man.


TaciturnIdiom

He could have stepped down at the end of his presidency and left a fine legacy, instead he clings to power at the expense of the people. Cmon yourself its fking obvious he is no longer mentally capable.


SpecialMoose4487

The republicans figured out how to do it. They just overturned roe v wade. Vote democrat.


ell0bo

I don't think Democrats are willing to stoop to the levels they did to secure the majority, and I definitely know we can't beat them at the propaganda game. People are saying this was one battle lost... but I'm pretty sure it's the last battle of the war.


T2-planner

We have one more battle in November. If we lose that, then the war is over, the experiment is over.


Ansoker

"Defeatists are no better than collaborationists."


ILikeToPoop42069

King Biden can nut up and put an end to this.


LiveLaughSlay69

Nobody wins, it’s a back and forth.


ElGringoConSabor

They usually do unfortunately


rivertpostie

It's just been a bad couple of weeks. It only set us back 100 years so far. Everything will be fine in another couple hundred years, if humanity is still around


Shadow293

Putin. This is his campaign to dismantle democracy all over the world, just so he can rebuild the Russian Empire without any further interference. The West being weak with him is what lead us to this moment. It truly is a surreal moment. I never thought democracy would die in my life time as a guy in his early 30’s.


GratefulG8r

The current composition of SCOTUS as well as their ideology has been a long term plan of American conservatives since Putin was a mere KGB officer. This has been decades in the making.


T2-planner

Hindsight is 20/20


kmm198700

I’m really depressed about it too


lesChaps

Some things people were warning about a decade and more ago happened.


Even_Establishment95

Rich white guys want all the money and power. And they will use God and the Supreme Court to get there and stay there.


l3m0nKeeki

This is a fascist coup not just a court decision


shellevanczik

Don’t forget the “christo” in the christofacists.


l3m0nKeeki

I’ve never liked the label because I don’t want to affirm what they’re trying to sell themselves as (Christians), don’t want to help them accidentally.


shellevanczik

There is no true Scotsman, for sure


Silly-Scene6524

So it’s Biden’s official duty to protect this country from traitors, game on.


Apprehensive-Soup764

Trump is a threat to national security. Calling Seal Team Six.


independent_observe

Trump? SCOTUS is the immediate threat. Dissolve SCOTUS and imprison anyone who objects. SCOTUS said the President can do that.


StroganoffDaddyUwU

Why not both?


Orange_Tang

He is the commander in chief and has the final say on any military operation and it's constitutionally mandated. I say he goes for it. Lock them up in guantanimo.


T2-planner

Military has no jurisdiction inside our borders. It would be the FBI, CIA, etc.


sirscooter

I would rather a law that states that because of national security, convicted felons can not run hold the office of the president or be in line for the presidency. Also that trump has shown he is an issue to national security and will be locked up for the good of the country and his own protection. Next , do ethical concerns the Supreme Court is disbarred in total and will be replaced with 13 judges that they will serve 20 year terms and a president gets to pick 2 judges per term no more no less. The that the Republicans can nominate anyone who isn't a felon and that no law will prevent the republican nominate from showing up on the ballot. Lastly that the president is not above the law, and if he breaks the law under official or unofficial duties that he can be held liable in a court of law besides just impeachment.


Silly-Scene6524

Seriously, official duties.


Effective_Damage_241

Nope he’s going the “we go high” route which means we’re fucked


Silly-Scene6524

I’m so sick of this shit, no one has actual balls.


teddytwelvetoes

lmao he could barely muster the courage to call Trump an alley cat


Silly-Scene6524

Biden could be pulling a weekend at Bernie’s and he’d still be a WAY batter choice than the sociopathic chronic liar convicted felon Trump


teddytwelvetoes

...I am a Biden voter, why are you responding with this random ass canned response? you posted about Biden using his newfound immunity to do something to/about Donald Trump, and I replied by telling you that the guy who could barely muster the courage to call him an alley cat is absolutely not going to do anything meaningful here.


SkollFenrirson

[Duty that will be ignored](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/biden-supreme-court-reform-trump-immunity-1235051044/)


Silly-Scene6524

“Don’t want to appear too political” will be the dull sword that dooms us.


SumthnSumthnDarkside

Biden will do the “honorable” thing and not do anything and leave it to the electoral process. Trump wins despite not having majority and reeks havoc with no regard for being honorable and in a year we’ll be looking back wondering why Biden just sat on his ass. Congress has been brought to a halt, the courts has been packed to protect Trump. This is the beginning of a new day. Supreme Leader Agent Orange will fuck this country in ways we’ve never seen before. Here’s to the fuckening! 🍻


BLF402

Apparently he has been given the green light to do whatever the fuck he wants.


Obfuscious

"The hesitation to execute the duties of his office fearlessly and fairly that might result when a President is making decisions under “a pall of potential prosecution,” This is fucking psychotic to be included in this decision and not even relevant to the situation at hand. To even make this a consideration about the ruling against Trump is unfathomable.


xife-Ant

We're all supposed to make decisions under “a pall of potential prosecution,” that's what laws are for.


Bandits101

Biden himself now has absolutely nothing to lose. He’s in his eighties so even an “unofficial act” would need to be determined in court and that takes years, as evidenced by Trump. Biden should immediately order the arrest of Trump.


SonofTreehorn

Trump has nothing to lose as well for the same reasons listed. It's even more imperative that he loses in November.


TheAnswerIsBeans

The election will be challenged if Trump loses and the Supreme Court will rule in his favour…


righthandedlefty69

Oh fuck.


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sugarlessdeathbear

Pretty sure the experiment is all but wrapped up at this point.


xhammyhamtaro

Ugh i honestly can’t see how we can return to normalcy after this. The can of worms is completely blown open


shkeptikal

"Normalcy" is what got us here. "Normalcy" was spending 50 years watching corporations monopolize everything in sight, legalize bribery, and take our rights from us en masse while listening to the talking heads on tv tell us that we're the best country in the world. We don't need normalcy. We need Americans to stop listening to billionaire swill and to think for themselves.


urk_the_red

We aren’t if Democrats can hold on to the presidency long enough to turn over SCOTUS. Dems need to fight like hell to win every election they can before they lose the option. If Trump wins this election, we are fucked


T2-planner

Could the President, as administrator of the Treasury, stop paying the SCOTUS?


swollennode

Ha. You think the republican justices need government money? The government can’t afford these justices.


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Nowornevernow12

Stop spreading this propaganda. It’s quite clear that he did not lose the election. Unless you have some sort of crystal ball that lets you see into the future, propaganda like this hurts the cause more than it helps.


UltraNoahXV

We have 4 months until the election. 120 days or so. Plenty of time for democrats to come up with a plan. Hell, I'm pretty sure their coming up with one. It's only Day 1. Do something. I'm volunteering as a poll worker for both primary and general election and will probably be going around make sure equipment works. Be the reason why someone goes to the polls - people will be more likely to go if you are actually working the thing. We'll find out if its over come Novemember 6.


StuartRichardRedman

Sotomayor knows she has a target on her back should a Republican gain the presidency.


BeigePhilip

She’ll be in the camps with the rest of us.


Responsible-Room-645

If this decision doesn’t motivate Democrats to get off their sorry asses and vote, nothing will.


Earthpig_Johnson

I’m thinking nothing will.


Responsible-Room-645

I’m inclined to agree with you


phrozengh0st

lol they are too busy on TikTok and making “Genocide Joe” memes. I would posit that 90% of the “undecideds” don’t even know how the Supreme Court works much less follow its rulings.


[deleted]

I still don’t understand the point of all that. Are they unaware that Trump wants to nuke Gaza and turn into a sheet of glass?


BLF402

They want to wipe Gaza out. This has been their entire plan. They have this notion of building the great temple and bringing about the end of the world. These people are fucking crazy and delusional


Top_Huckleberry_8225

There's no College Cred in being more liberal than Trump. Being more liberal than a sitting democrat even if the only alternative is literal fascism? Now that's trendy.


phrozengh0st

Go watch interviews with the various campus protestors that are camping in tents on lawns and taking over clock towers. Their intellect and historical knowledge begins and ends with what they saw on some "influencers" TikTok slideshow.


Think-4D

These “genocide Joe” clowns hurt our democracy, persuade left leaning young people not to vote for “genocide Joe” and perpetuate violence against Jewish people. Worst at that, they are not pro Palestine. They are pro islamofascism as they embrace Hamas. They empowered and reignited the far right just as they were dying with endless scenes of them dressing up like Hamas and chanting terrorist rhetoric while gleefully consuming Iranian regime and Russian sourced propaganda on TikTok (a CCP powered platform) Those who tolerated them or worst defended them are complicit when trump gets re-elected.


DOOManiac

This will motivate Democrats to stay home because we’ve already lost.


Responsible-Room-645

Congrats, enjoy living under a dictator and you’ll only have yourself to blame


p8vmnt

Already too late I’m afraid


Responsible-Room-645

No it’s not. Americans can turn this whole thing around if they want to


hilariouslyhopeless

This is the moment where the left needs to start having the same passion for the 2nd amendment that the insane right has. This is such a terrifying precedent to be set now.


Travelerdude

A decision destined to be overturned by a future SCOTUS.


Earthpig_Johnson

God willing.


Redhawk4t4

Not to say it's impossible, but it's rare apparently. "It’s extremely rare for the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn one of its own decisions. Of the more than 25,500 decisions handed down by the Supreme Court since its creation in 1789, it has only reversed course 146 times, less than one-half of one percent."


sentientcave

Notably recently Roe decision.


Redhawk4t4

That was from an article in 2022. [https://www.history.com/news/landmark-supreme-court-cases-overturned](https://www.history.com/news/landmark-supreme-court-cases-overturned) It obviously does happen, just not often. Less than one half of one percent is a pretty small number when they have made over 25.000 rulings.


sentientcave

All the more appalling considering overturning Roe left American women, half the country, at the mercy of fascists and religious fanatics.


T2-planner

Lately they’ve done it 4 times. This court is off the rails.


sirscooter

I'm slightly interested in what the most current numbers are if the latest Surpeme Court has a higher percentage


suddenlypandabear

Sure but that's still more than once every 2 years on average, and there's far more chance of "the president is a king" being overturned.


[deleted]

As soon as a Democrat uses the law to benefit himself.


[deleted]

As soon as a Democrat uses the law to benefit himself.


independent_observe

In 30 or so years


bellaimages

YES, I'M SCARED! "The US [Supreme Court](https://www.the-independent.com/topic/supreme-court) has ruled that [Donald Trump](https://www.the-independent.com/topic/donald-trump) is [immune from criminal prosecution for official acts ](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-presidential-immunity-supreme-court-b2565981.html)conducted during his time as president but not unofficial acts. The ruling has a huge impact on cases connected to his attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election." I read the ruling and now it's time to bring out Dark Brandon and replace all the MAGA nutcases in Congress so that we, the people have enough power to remove at least two of the Justices on the Supreme Court who are showing biased towards helping Trump.


shanvanvook

No silly … only republican presidents.


The_Triagnaloid

If Biden does not use this new found power to get rid of these maga Nazis, and then stuff the court with the furthest left justices to then undo this new power, Then we’re all fucked


UltimateWarrior1980

How would he pack the Court with far left judges when the Senate has to approve nominees and Garland wasn't approved because "it was too close to an election"?


The_Triagnaloid

The president is king now. Where have you been?


UltimateWarrior1980

In regards to immunity from criminal prosecution, but that isn't how seating justices works.


The_Triagnaloid

But it does now. Do you not understand what a king is?


UltimateWarrior1980

Do you not understand that as bad as the ruling was, it didn't do away with the legislative branch?


The_Triagnaloid

Any executive order is an official act. You’re thinking like a democrat. The only way to fix this is to think like a fascist conservative. Remember when trump banned Muslims one day and it essentially shut down most airports for a couple of days? He didn’t have the right to do it, But he did it. And everyone forgot about it. If Biden just does it, It’ll just happen. Biden can arrest the conservative congress and senate, And then he can do stuff your way. The president can do anything now. What’s hard to understand about that?


bellaimages

Time to fill Congress with Democrats and make sure the White House remains with a Democrat! We can do something about the Supreme Court then .. there are at least two corrupt justices that need to be held accountable.


DOOManiac

At least 6. Traitors to the United States


Starheart8

Let’s just be clear about this. The highest court in our country just said that if the president killed his political opponents or staged a coup to stay in power indefinitely, the Supreme Court just said “Yeah, that’s fine with us”?


PurpleBandit3000

As long as they rule it's "official". Ugh.


The-Evil-Dead-Alive-

How to even continue working with people that made this possible, I have no idea


Cliqey

‘Immune. Immune. Immune.’ The nightmare no longer a dream. A throne with the might Of a billion Suns. A king of a divided body —millions of dissidents under thumb. Oh, fragile liberty— Her gilded dress is torn, Exposing the fatal wound Just so lovingly formed By zealots with their spears Held in service of crafted fears. Citizen, subject, you allow what follows. Should you survive the tumult And decades later wonder how the horrors danced, Know now it is not you who is immune From eternal consequence


Antennangry

Funny that the “originalist” contingent is making the founding fathers roll in their graves rn.


ElectronicObject3663

In an official presidential act, couldn’t Biden replace all the justices?


T2-planner

Or at least stop their pay, forget to pay the electric bill…


KarasuKaras

Time for Dark Brandon to clean house and be the GOAT.


augustusleonus

So now the question is what is “official”, surely a man who swore an oath to uphold the constitution, then tried to subvert the peaceful transfer of power even though he lost each and every legal case for the same, is not upholding his oath and therefore cannot be acting in an official capacity


Call-Me-Mr-Speed

I know I laughed when the hearing was taking place and the justices asked, “can a president be indicted for [insert absurd crime like murder]”, and the trump lawyers would say, “no, he has immunity” or “not unless first impeached and tried in Congress.” It sounded so impossibly crazy to think anyone is above the law. It just can’t be.


Station-Alone

Can biden assassinate ultra corrupt Supreme court members, appoint new ones and correct the law to what is should be??????????


Miguel-odon

And they set themselves up to declare actions "official" or "non-official" at their convenience in future cases.


Euphoric_Sand24

Doesn't matter if you are a Democrat or Republican. If you are an American, this SCOTUS decision should terrify you.


DOOManiac

How the fuck can 7 people destroy our entire country in two weeks?


DDHoward

7?


syzygialchaos

*Scolds*? Man if there was ever a time to put “slams” in the headline, this was it. She unequivocally eviscerated it.


Even_Establishment95

How does she sit in the same room let alone work alongside these evil, corrupt bastards? I would be shitting in their coffee. I mean, no I wouldn’t. But I would plot to daily and not follow through because I am a decent person. Remember 9-5 though and how they plotted to put the rat poison in the coffee? Yeah.


FearTheCrab-Cat

You know what we do to kings, right?


Resies

worship them


DOOManiac

Keep voting for them apparently.


shelbys_foot

Scolds?


YoungUrineTheGreat

What if Dems need this stuff to drum up enough support to prevent it? Like yes its bad but this is the point to show us how close to the edge we are. If this doesnt bring out voters in droves, theres nothing that will.


spiked_macaroon

AP GOPO is about to get wild


SannySen

Genuinely curious to hear from anyone who agrees with the majority opinion here.  How do you answer the Seal Team 6 hypothetical?  


drwiggly

Official acts aren't included in political assassinations. Not that it would stop some would be presidents.


SannySen

That's only if you call it a political assassination.  If you order a hit on the nominee of the other party because they're an asset of a foreign government, then it's not an assassination!  It's now an official act. Oh, what's that, there's no evidence proving they're an asset?  Whoopsie! Even the greatest presidents sometimes make mistakes.


T2-planner

But discussing national defense actions are official acts, therefore immune from discovery.


ContentWaltz8

Who wants to make a trump for king psy-op?


alexmeth

She'll be the first one he'll lock up.


Lynda73

‘Scold’? ‘SCOLD’???


newt_here

SCOTUS been watching too much Game of Thrones


StunningIndication57

Trump is already untouchable, thanks to the redneck nazi MAGA party


Prudent-Cabinet-3151

We all know what needs to happen, it’s just a matter of time until someone does it, the people won’t be silenced forever, there will be a tipping point when they can no longer stomach the mockery wrought against them and will rise up and put down their oppressors. God willing they have the stomach for it.


goldfaux

As the first official act of King Biden, there are now only 3 SCOTUS on the supreme court. All previous rulings since RGB are now null and void. 


americanweebeastie

being an american seems somehow less satisfying because that cult guy who stole top secret documents and left them in the toilet is walking free


Louiethefly

SCOTUS is forcing the American people into enforcing the law against a future criminal president, no matter how ugly it gets.


cokethesodacan

Donald Trump retained those documents when he was not President. That is not an official act by any stretch of the imagination.


Sphereian

Are there any law students in here? How are these events being taught and presented at law schools? Not just this particular ruling, but the rulings of this Supreme Court in general?


Dreadful_Bear

I hate this… now I have to choose between a senile old man or literally handing the country over to a vindictive wannabe dictator who has absolute immunity while in office. We are done for.


POWRAXE

I sympathize that our options are limited, but this isn’t a difficult decision.


Dreadful_Bear

Obviously. I didn’t think I’d need to clarify that I do not want the United States to become a dictatorship.


lancer-fiefdom

Long Live King Brandon!!