I have a shade over my pool in Houston Tx. Not sure of the water temp but being able to swim in partial shade helps to stay in the pool longer without feeling so hot
I'm in College Station, and our pool is too hot to swim in during the daytime. We are wanting to get these installed, but we were concerned about the wind. Who did you use to install?
I’m not that handy but did this myself. Triangular sail shade from Amazon, 2 8ft 4x4 cedar posts buried about 20 inches set in cement, and the 3rd point anchored to the house.
I did the same thing at first (used 12ft 4x4 wood posts) and it was a disaster. The wood posts were way too flexible and I couldn’t get enough tension on the shade sail. I pulled those out and replaced them with 4x4 11ga steel posts that I set 3ft deep with concrete. I can get plenty of tension on the shade sail with practically no noticeable deflection on the posts. It holds up well in strong winds and rain as well.
You’re probably ok if youre good about taking your sail down but personally I would put those down another 16” at least. I would do 48” total and an oversized cement footing. Im gonna do the math for fun so buckle up…
Wind load will be less than something like a fence panel because the angle of attack is much shallower. I believe you can roughly diminish it 1:1 so 90deg angle of wind (like a fence) would be 1 where 45deg angle would be 0.5.
Otherwise the calculation is force = 1/2 x air density x windspeed squared x surface area x coefficient of drag (1 for a rigid flat panel @ 90deg to the angle of attack)
So if we use the 12’x12’x12’ triangle shade from amazon since you didnt put the size down…area of a triangle is 1/2 x base x height and our equilateral triangle can be decomposed into 2 regular right trianges where a^2 x b^2 = c^2.
12/2 = a base of 6
12 is the hypotenuse
6x6 = 36
12x12 = 144
b^2 = 144 - 36 = 108
B ~= 10.4
So the area of the 12x12x12 sail = 31.2 x 2 = 62.4’
The typical density of air is 0.075 lbs/cu ft
Lets assume force does in fact diminish roughly linearly for a more or less rigid sheet based on angle of attack and say the drag coefficient is around 0.25 based on modeling of a “flat plate wing at 15deg angle of attack
Lets also assume a healthy breeze of 15mph.
Force = 1/2 x 0.075 x (15^2) x 62.4 x 0.25 = 131.625 lbs
For comparison, the same size wall at 90deg to the wind (like a solid panel fence) would experience 526.5 lbs of force in a 15mph wind.
131 lbs may not sound like much but if you have a 12 ft (above ground) 4x4 you now have a 12ft lever arm. The force on your shade sail is trying to rotate that lever around its axis (the ground). You have 20” and some cement trying to prevent that.
The equation for torque is force x length of arm x sin theta which describes the direction of the force. 90deg represents maximum force.
So if we take our 131.625 lbs of force and assume a 12’ 4x4 and that we want maximum value were talking about 1,579.5 lbs being applied to 4x4 trying to pull it over.
If you had absolutely equal tension and load on each 4x4 you could cut that in half but thats not rational. Its never equal and the load distribution will be dynamic as your sail flexes and rebounds so your dynamic loads could be even higher. Those dynamic forces are what snap things.
Say a thunderstorm cropped up with gale force winds (35mph) while you were out buying more beer and you didnt take your sail in…
The static force on your sail might be more like 716.625 lbs and the torque on your posts 8996.5lbs. So the question is, would you stand under a dump truck you hanging off a 4x4 anchored in 20” of concrete?
I put a 6x6 in the ground and have it connected to the post, fence, house. Got a hardware kit off Amazon with carabiners and steel wire. I’m sure the sail will rip or the hardware will fail and let the sail go flapping on the wind if it gets too bad. The sail was $50 and hardware $30 bucks or so. Take it down during winter season. On the second season now, for less than $100 I’m not worried if sail gets destroyed in high wind
your mileage may vary, we’re in Santa Clarita, CA and the winds are bonkers, but self-installing these using Amazon purchases and paracord has lasted us two summers now. for the $300 investment, beyond worth it.
This is wild to me. I’ve never heard of pools being too hot to swim in. I’m in Canada and we don’t have a pool heater so it’s a matter of our pools being warm enough. Right now it’s about 72 and feels warm.
I’m in south GA, basically north FL, and with constant, direct sunlight on my pool from about 9am to 7pm and 95 degree days for the last month or so, the pool gets annoyingly hot and the amount of evap is crazy when the rain isn’t coming regularly.
I am north of Houston and the pool is 87° with mostly tree cover and it’s a north facing pool so the house blocks direct sun for the afternoon. It’s fantastic.
Last summer it got up to 95°, which was a little bit hot but then you just go out at night and it’s wonderful. For some people that was too hot.
I’ll also get in a pool at 72°, below that I wimp out unless drinking heavily and coming out of a hot tub.
I’ve set them up as temporary shades in the summer at the nursery I work at and they really don’t catch that much wind. I’ve used twine or paracord and it’s lasted through the summer till it’s time to take them down.
Also in Houston- what do you do during a big storm (like that windstorm last month)? Are you able to take them down yourself? Interested in getting some for our pool.
I'm on Wisconsin and swimming in shade is awful. We only get in when there is full sub. Kids are in no stop though because we heat to 90. I get it though, warmer climates it is absolutely needed!
The pool hits 90F here in TX in the shade, lol. We had 85F water starting in April this year, though it would have been there much sooner if we hadn't had a very unusually cloudy and rainy spring decreasing sun on the pool and adding cool water every couple days.
Since I put the shade sails up, the pool is sitting between 88 and 92 (feels cool still when it's this hot!) most days now that we're up around 100F during the day.
I live in Queen Creek, Arizona, an hour southeast of Phoenix. I've had mine up for seven years straight on my pergola. No problems. I thoroughly love it! I'm considering the whole pool area above the pool and pool deck. I may have to use several to cover everything I want to cover. Yet it is well worth it!
I perhaps went a little overboard when putting my posts into the ground. They are 4x4 10 ft poles with 4 ft of it in the ground with cement around it. With it being stuck into the ground that way it's way secure. Remember these aren't solid likes sales on a sailboat. The sun shades allow air to flow through it it'll still puff up but it's not going to sail away like a Mary Poppins umbrella. Mine's a 10x10 pergola with the sun shade bolted to the 4x4s on all four sides. It withstands microbursts that have toppled over cement walls in my HOA.
We’ve used them I Phoenix every year. We have 3 covering our turf so it doesn’t burn the dogs feet (don’t get turf it’s awful). One always covers the pool and it does keep it cooler. Some do get slightly torn in winds but none are unusable and we’ve had them for 5-6 years. There year we bought a huge one on Temu for like 50 dollars which is a fraction of what they cost elsewhere and shockingly it’s made better then some other.
They are also relatively inexpensive at Costco or you can by rolls with plastic rivets that you clip in. Those are all less expensive than buying them anywhere else. So if they rip (ours are still good) you don’t have to worry as much.
My pool unusable without them as it’s like straight sun until 5-6 pm
I would also love to know and where the people live! I live in Kansas, I've been eyeing them for a while, but the wind here can be intense, I'm worried it would be a sail and take off.
We have several shades around our pool and porch in Kansas. But we have them strapped down really well. They’re great about letting enough air through that the wind doesn’t cause too many issues.
Funny you should bring this up. I’m in Missouri and I’m just leaving my in-laws. They had one of these up on their patio - 5” steel poles anchored into 6” of reinforced concrete. The cover on the patio held up but generated enough force/leverage to break the fucking concrete at the poles base.
Additionally another cover over the dog pens got ripped in two.
i would love to see what you have done? south texas here. I have a big cantilever umbrella (and some market umbrellas) but wind keeps turning the &@)@??& cantilever umbrella
They work for us. We have two triangle shade sails. Particularly good with our current heat wave. Keeps water just under bathtub temps, and provides enough shade for prevent fried skin.
lol! No. Just my poor attempt at humor. A hot pool isn’t a fun pool. We keep a floating thermometer and once the water temp gets above 92+, it’s pretty miserable for us. The shade sails plus a cheap inlet fountain on the deep end help a lot.
I have two triangle pieces so as the sun moves you get different areas that are shade and sun through out the day. Absolute love them and they are still up after Hurricane.
Get a bunch of carabiners and plenty of rope. We have 3 triangular sails that I rig up. Right now, my wife can’t do it comfortably, this weekend, I’m going to create guide rope lines to each corner of the three sails so you do t have to fight with them as much.
I use cleats with mine so that the setup and tear-down is pretty quick and easy. There's also the added benefit of not having to get the tension perfect.
The cheap imports online that are only fabric will break down quickly. The more expensive versions with the stainless steel cables along all edges will last much longer and perform better.
I use 4 large umbrellas to act as "shade islands". I strategically place them along the southern edge of my pool and one on the western side to give me shade in the evening.
They last me a couple years and are easy to set up in the morning and take down in the evening.
It does work, but one thing to consider is the color of the sail! It will tint everything underneath it since it’s translucent. so consider what color sail you select, a friend bought a yellow one and had to return it as it made his pool look like it was filled with piss.
We use cantilevered umbrella’s on rollable bases (with locking wheels - lesson learned.) and added a fountain to one of the jets. Brings it from 92 to 85.
I’m not kidding about the locking wheels and want to add: close and TIE the umbrellas shut when there’s wind. My lesson learned was that I had to figure out how to get a 10’ umbrella and it’s base (200lbs), as well as 2- 50lb metal weights out of the pool because it was left open with ONE wheel locked. And we got a high wind event overnight. And the water was 50 degrees. Keep in mind the umbrella was wide open in the pool…. Like that sail in your picture but you know 10ft umbrella shaped with a metal skeleton that was scooping water!!! Heavy HEAVY water! ….I’ll leave you there, with THAT nightmare, so you remember I said LOCK ALL the wheels and close and TIE all the umbrellas…… EVERY TIME!!
AZ here. Have used these in the past. It makes about a 2 -3 degree difference in pool temp. My pool was 92 in the am and 96 at 4pm. So having this kept the high to 94. 20k gal w/ a white bottom pool.
Got ratty after 2 seasons and always had crap on top of it.
I have one but I don’t have it over the pool. I have it in place of my umbrella that kept coming down in storms and getting destroyed. I put 4X4 posts in the ground with concrete, took 2X6’s as cross beams to keep it square and then put the awning on that using turn buckles to keep it tight. It’s a 10X13 and it’s perfect if you’re able to keep it tight. If it gets to jumping in the wind I can see them being shredded. Make sure you pay extra for one, you get what you pay for on Amazon with the awnings
Edit:want to add, mine has been up for 4 years, this is year 5. Same awning. Only comes down in the late fall and goes back up after our last snow fall. I’m in central Indiana. So T-storms can come in with a vengeance along with straight line winds.
Mine works! I'm in San Antonio. We've had it break twice, but hubby changed the hardware, and we haven't had an issue since. Ours is the largest one Amazon has. Our pool was in full sunlight, as we lost all of our trees in the Snowpocolypse a couple of years ago. The difference is huge! This is my very first comment on this site, and I haven't a clue how to post a pic, I'm sorry.
Yes, they work and make a big difference. If you put them up right, with decent hardware they can hold up to pretty decent winds. I’m in the California desert, we get Santa Ana winds and in my area they’ll get up in the 40’s typically. I take them down if it’s going to be worse than that, in my valley we had winds last November that were up around 60 and my smaller sale (10x10) above my koi pond survived it.
Shade sails are super common in the northern parts of Australia. Usually mounted from large steel poles so they survive the tropical storms and cyclones.
They’re awesome, without them the sun is simply too hot to consider using the pool in the middle of the day, with these there’s always some part of the pool you can sit in. And they help keep the pool much cooler through the really hot parts of summer.
Obviously placement is key. As the install. Those cheap ones tend to rip and not last.
https://northsideshadesails.com.au/gallery/
They can turn a 90F pool into a 70F pool in the middle of summer
In southern México. Just added a second one today. Covers about 60% of the pool. Love 'em. I'm in a windy area, so they are put up and taken down depending upon the winds.
Las Vegas here, works well over my pool and side yard. When it comes to high winds I have to take it down though. Lasted 3 years so far. No issues. Figure out an easy pulley system to put up and take down and well worth it. Very cheap too.
I had six of the 8x8x8 triangular shades installed inside our pool screen. They overlapped and provided pretty good shade. Lasted close to 8 years? No issues through S.Fla. tropical storms and maybe a couple of small hurricanes. Perhaps the only issue was occasional accumulation of cobwebs.
I drilled through the aluminum screen frame and installed eyelet bolts, used nylon rope to the shade d-rings, and to adjustable turnbuckles that now and then needed a turn to tighten. The turnbuckles were hooked onto the eyelet bolts.
They were even ok to stay dry under light rain.
In cincinnati, hot humid summers and have had one up for 5 or 6 years. Works great for shade by the pool and surprised its not tore up at all. Ordered from Amazon
I’ve got a triangle shape and yes, it will help some with the pool temp, and providing some shade. Mine is anchored to the house, and then into 2 4x4 cedar posts set in cement. So wind hasn’t been a problem.
Live in Phoenix greater area. Put in triangle shade sail fairly large, and wind broke my 4x4 wood post. Metal pole bolted into cement or reinforced with cement is the way.
I've been using them over my pool in Tampa for about 16 years. Water temps is about 86-88 when daily highs are 93-98 (in other words, between thunderstorms). The pool was nearly unusable without them our first year. The Cool-a-Roo shades have somehow survived 16 years of Florida sun but are starting to show some wear.
I have them strung up somewhat loose under the pool cage. I generally use bungee cords for tension and large sail (23' x23') has a pair of ropes under it to limit sagging. I know this isn't the "right" way to do it but I have no interest in testing the load limits of the pool cage by stretching them tight.
The shades flop around in the wind and don't really catch the wind like a sail. That said, I do roll them up when we have a tropical storm or hurricane headed our way.
I put one up at significant expense and ended up taking it down and replacing it with a gazebo… the problem with these is unless you have some sort of blocker to the west the late afternoon sun still
Beats on you and this does nothing
grass is always greener i guess. it gets over 110 here in the summer and i'm out trimming the trees to let more light hit the pool because it only gets to the low 80s a few days a year. last thing i want is MORE shade.
I live just north of Austin. I have these on a pulley. When the wind gets crazy, I lower them to reduce stress to both the shade and the environment. When I have company and low wind, I raise them up. While they did drop the temp in the pool a couple degrees, I mainly got them because the pool is on the south side of the house. They allowed us to swim in shade.
We had a sun sail on our back deck as we were full sun! We had it professionally installed to the house (2story) and two large metal poles. It went through the worst wind storms and thunderstorms no problem!
We had one in Seattle for a few years. Worked great to give shade on a sunny day and even gave cover from rain.
Not good in snow though. It can break in snow/freezing rain.
I have 2 shades bought at Costco, and they are GREAT! I also have a DIY fountain attached to the output of the pump, which shoots multiple streams of water up into the air in a short arc all night to bring the water temp down (assuming that the night temp is lower than the pool water temp, of course).
I have 2 big triangle sails over my pool in South Florida. Pool is southern exposure, so without them, my pool is like bathwater in the summer. Def makes a difference
They do work, but don’t go with the biggest sizes. The real big ones catch a lot of wind and rip the eyelets out. We bought a 15x20 and it makes a huge difference. But we thought it indestructible, and had to have it repaired. Now can only keep it up when winds are relatively calm.
The other option may be to buy from a company that sells commercial grade. Ours was from Amazon
10°f difference with 1/3 of pool shaded
South East Florida 15k gallons in ground
I take it down when the pool temp drops below 80 and it jumps up ten degrees extending the swim season.
I have 3/4 of my pool covered with these. I put them in early June. It slows down the water temp getting too high and my pool stays cleaner because UV lights eats chlorine.
I live in phoenix AZ for reference
Yes they work. If you ever go to a public park they use these and the area is significantly cooler. Enough that kids don't get burned from the equipment.
That’s so crazy to me as well as I’m up north, NJ/PA area and we use the pool to cool off even when the heat is in the high 90’s like the last 2 weeks. I understand that Texas heat is different tho.
I put in a triangle one 18 x 18 x 18. Anchored to house (2x) and single post across pool. Living in Dallas, we find that it does make a several degree difference in water temp and keeps the direct sun off of you through the day. It’s a DIY project. Lots of great vids on YouTube that walk you through planning and install.
My pool only peaks to 80 - 82 degrees for a few glorious days in mid July. We need a few heatwaves to reach the 80’s. Sadly, just one cool night (60’s) and it’s back down to 76. SE Pennsylvania
Sounds like a nice problem to have, imo.
My wife and I bought a house with a pool in the northeast. Pool is on the north side of the property and has trees on the adjacent properties that only allow sun to hit the pool from 9:30A to 1:30P. That’s it.
We had to buy a solar cover and the amount of time we spend on skimming leaves and twigs and keeping it clean outweighs the amount of time we can actually use it.
We opened it in late May and I already hate it.
Lots of comments so not sure if you’ll see this but they do work for shade but you have to set poles to get them up right. Wind will take out any poles not cemented in properly.
I recently took ours down and went with a purple umbrella and concrete base attachment from Amazon. I highly recommended!
Absolutely. I have mine in south TX and over deep end to drop temp a couple degrees. Make sure your plan includes how to support it with wind. I know where all my pool lines run, so located long t-posts and used paracord...mine is 20' triangle only over deep end...suggest some rigging with at least some spring to it to give it ability to flex in higher winds. There is a LOT of force when the winds is blowing hard, so dont halfway rig it...notice that pic has legit posts and that's needed for that size...mine is halfway thru 2nd season and doing well...also has very strong rigging hoops.
Hey, I have a couple of these up over my pool and deck. If you want them to stay up all summer you have to put them up correctly and not buy cheap rigging(?). I learned this the hard way. The sail you get matter a bit colors and whatnot, some material is a little nicer than others but they're all basically a fancy tarp.
After a few trial and errors. I used pressure treated 4×4s. Qwik crete. Don't buy the cheap crap on Amazon for cables and connectors. They snap and can barely take a 20mph gust. You need solid vinyl wire rope 1/8inch, the two piece wire rope clips some decent 6inch turnbuckles. The cable can be hard to cut if you don't have bolt cutters. I used a dremmel. I'll send you a pick of the rigging.
We love ours.
Yes they're awesome. Pain in the ass to hang up best with at least 2 people 4 is better because you need all four corners tight. Hang up sooner in the season to keep the pool cooler. But mostly it's so you can swim in full sun and not bake like a turkey.
I use 3 sails over the pool. Fortunately, we have enough structures (neighbor’s garage, pool house, etc) and trees - so I have not had to put in any posts - just long runs of wire. Having some spots of shade in the pool both morning and afternoon make it worth the annual hassle of trying to remember how to get these things up every summer.
We have a couple of these in LA. They work great! One tip to help with the wind is to anchor the corners using [spring anchors](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Loop-Spring-Tension-Blind-Fixing-Shade-Sail-Fixings-Stainless-Steel-Accessories-4-Helical-Springs-8-Carabiners-Tents-Awnings-Camping-Pcs/5442479607?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101587174). We also replaced the ropes with 1/16 stainless steel rope, and used bolt snap quick release connectors, which makes it a breeze to take them down at the end of the season.
Idk about pools, but I have been using them for 8yrs in my yard. They work very well for shade and reducing heat. Add a mister line down one side, and you get shade & cool mist.
Tensile membrane systems professional here.
No. This won"t work. Flat membrane design is against the theory of tensile membrane systems. It is prone to flapping under wind load.
It should have an anticlastic surface. Still, wind loads should be analyzed for the memnrane material used and the form.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensile_structure
its those fancy canopies that are designed to be a permanent shade or roof without being destroyed by high winds. they look like neat geometric shapes
My neighbor had one of those here in north Texas and the storm we had last year snapped it. Then he put it back up and over time it started sagging. I will never buy one
I have a 17x17x17 triangle over my pool. The best thing we ever did. It does help keep it cool in the dog days of summer and half the pool is in shade, so your not directly in sun the whole time.
They do to an extent. 90f currently, with shade for a day I get 85-87 so some break. The thing is, if pump is running and air temp is 90+ then your water just adjusts too.
It’s your overnight lows for temp that lower it with the evaporation.
I have two triangles. Both are anchored to our deck roof and I clamped some aluminum poles to my fence along with some rope and clamp things. I don't know what they are called but they use them to tighten sailboat ropes.
Dallas Texas. No issues with windy conditions.
Shade sails work to make the area more tolerable. Wind shouldn't be an issue when mounted properly. If you can't dig a 3ft deep hole hire someone that can.
I have a large pool, so I use two of those side to side 10(+)' x 20', over the shallow end; my pool is 20' x 40'. It helps drastically to keep the pool water cool and refreshing throughout the whole swim; else it will be cool for a second, then feels like luke warm bathwater. Also, it's a nice shade while you're swimming, keeping the sun off of you.
For reference, I live near Fresno, and summers are 100-114°F; generally whatever the hottest temperature is (where people live) in the country, that's what the temperature is here.
P.S. This also helps maintain your chems, specifically your Cl- which breaks down heavily in the sun.
They work great. I have 2 triangle shades attached through pulleys and cleats so I can adjust them. My pool gets full sun from morning till about 5pm. As soon as the water temp hits 90° I run one up over one end of the pool. The temp usually drops back to about 84° but will slowly creep back up. As soon as it hits 90° I put the second one up.
Had one in the past, word of advise get one with a warranty or high quality. Once it's hung, the eyeholes where the rope connects the shade to a pole or whatever is the breaking point, mine lasted 6 weeks and with the winds (which were not even storm winds - just daily summer winds) the eyeholes started breaking out.
I love ours. I have a trampoline style spring on two of the corners. I believe mine is the same model as the pic. It flies pretty high in the wind but has never caused an issue.
I like the triangle shaped ones better. I secure two sides and put a weight on the third corner through an eye hook or a pulley. They survive high winds better this way. I haven't had any luck with the square shades.
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Edit: Still have to anchor it correctly. But the shade itself, being a major factor in tugging and yanking at your anchor points, drops pretty significantly IMO. Wind cuts right through it. It'll stay put. (in addition you are officially removed from ariel surveillance and bombardment🙌)
I use a 14 foot shade attached to metal posts attached to my 6x6 inch fence posts. The wooden fence posts are embedded in the ground with concrete and are 3 feet deep. The metal posts are on one side aide of the pool and are about 10 feet tall while the other side is attached to the house and a tree at 8 foot high. It holds up well and makes the pool amazingly more enjoyable.
I have a 30 foot round pool and would love to find one of these gigantic enough to have made. I can do the steel posts, etc. but I have no idea where I could get one that big? Any ideas? Maybe there’s a better solution?
My pool deck gets really hot so I put one up over a section of the deck. Pool is currently 93 degrees so going to put another over the pool. My fence is a little over 8 feet, so I'm just gonna mount to fence and use pulleys. You can see here. https://www.reddit.com/r/CozyPlaces/s/8Ck151VkHx
Yes, they work well but take them down before a big storm. Plus, ours held water so that wasn't good. Overall it's a win if you want to stay out of the sun.
Mine is partially covered by trees, which keeps the water significantly cooler than the temperature outside. So I'm sure you'd get the same results with that.
In FL and we keep one over the deep end where we have bench seating and a waterfall. It is the hang out spot when you want to cool off without the sun beating down on you. The fair skin folks hang out there in general as well. Doesn't keep the pool cool, just blocks the intensity of the sun on yourself.
I have a shade over my pool in Houston Tx. Not sure of the water temp but being able to swim in partial shade helps to stay in the pool longer without feeling so hot
I'm in College Station, and our pool is too hot to swim in during the daytime. We are wanting to get these installed, but we were concerned about the wind. Who did you use to install?
I’m not that handy but did this myself. Triangular sail shade from Amazon, 2 8ft 4x4 cedar posts buried about 20 inches set in cement, and the 3rd point anchored to the house.
20 inches doesn’t feel like enough. I go 3 feet for posts for a fence. 20 inches for a sail? I dunno.
This guy goes to r/decks
I did the same thing at first (used 12ft 4x4 wood posts) and it was a disaster. The wood posts were way too flexible and I couldn’t get enough tension on the shade sail. I pulled those out and replaced them with 4x4 11ga steel posts that I set 3ft deep with concrete. I can get plenty of tension on the shade sail with practically no noticeable deflection on the posts. It holds up well in strong winds and rain as well.
So they are only 5ft above the ground? Is that awkward?
The metal posts I got are 12ft. So about 9ft above ground
It's going to depend on the frost line.
Ya, where I live anything that's not sunk, at least 48 inches will get pushed up by frost eventually
You’re probably ok if youre good about taking your sail down but personally I would put those down another 16” at least. I would do 48” total and an oversized cement footing. Im gonna do the math for fun so buckle up… Wind load will be less than something like a fence panel because the angle of attack is much shallower. I believe you can roughly diminish it 1:1 so 90deg angle of wind (like a fence) would be 1 where 45deg angle would be 0.5. Otherwise the calculation is force = 1/2 x air density x windspeed squared x surface area x coefficient of drag (1 for a rigid flat panel @ 90deg to the angle of attack) So if we use the 12’x12’x12’ triangle shade from amazon since you didnt put the size down…area of a triangle is 1/2 x base x height and our equilateral triangle can be decomposed into 2 regular right trianges where a^2 x b^2 = c^2. 12/2 = a base of 6 12 is the hypotenuse 6x6 = 36 12x12 = 144 b^2 = 144 - 36 = 108 B ~= 10.4 So the area of the 12x12x12 sail = 31.2 x 2 = 62.4’ The typical density of air is 0.075 lbs/cu ft Lets assume force does in fact diminish roughly linearly for a more or less rigid sheet based on angle of attack and say the drag coefficient is around 0.25 based on modeling of a “flat plate wing at 15deg angle of attack Lets also assume a healthy breeze of 15mph. Force = 1/2 x 0.075 x (15^2) x 62.4 x 0.25 = 131.625 lbs For comparison, the same size wall at 90deg to the wind (like a solid panel fence) would experience 526.5 lbs of force in a 15mph wind. 131 lbs may not sound like much but if you have a 12 ft (above ground) 4x4 you now have a 12ft lever arm. The force on your shade sail is trying to rotate that lever around its axis (the ground). You have 20” and some cement trying to prevent that. The equation for torque is force x length of arm x sin theta which describes the direction of the force. 90deg represents maximum force. So if we take our 131.625 lbs of force and assume a 12’ 4x4 and that we want maximum value were talking about 1,579.5 lbs being applied to 4x4 trying to pull it over. If you had absolutely equal tension and load on each 4x4 you could cut that in half but thats not rational. Its never equal and the load distribution will be dynamic as your sail flexes and rebounds so your dynamic loads could be even higher. Those dynamic forces are what snap things. Say a thunderstorm cropped up with gale force winds (35mph) while you were out buying more beer and you didnt take your sail in… The static force on your sail might be more like 716.625 lbs and the torque on your posts 8996.5lbs. So the question is, would you stand under a dump truck you hanging off a 4x4 anchored in 20” of concrete?
What’s the best way to anchor through vinyl siding?
Find where a wall stud would be and bolt to that
Have the lost warped yet?
No.
Use the compression springs meant for hammocks and such not the extension springs. Should be fine.
Trampoline springs did the trick for me. Has lasted several years now with no issues during storms.
I put a 6x6 in the ground and have it connected to the post, fence, house. Got a hardware kit off Amazon with carabiners and steel wire. I’m sure the sail will rip or the hardware will fail and let the sail go flapping on the wind if it gets too bad. The sail was $50 and hardware $30 bucks or so. Take it down during winter season. On the second season now, for less than $100 I’m not worried if sail gets destroyed in high wind
>I'm in College Station I'm sorry.
Gig em
lol I live college station too and pool is hot especially now !
your mileage may vary, we’re in Santa Clarita, CA and the winds are bonkers, but self-installing these using Amazon purchases and paracord has lasted us two summers now. for the $300 investment, beyond worth it.
This is wild to me. I’ve never heard of pools being too hot to swim in. I’m in Canada and we don’t have a pool heater so it’s a matter of our pools being warm enough. Right now it’s about 72 and feels warm.
I’m in south GA, basically north FL, and with constant, direct sunlight on my pool from about 9am to 7pm and 95 degree days for the last month or so, the pool gets annoyingly hot and the amount of evap is crazy when the rain isn’t coming regularly.
Last summer it was especially bad. About 2 weeks over 100 F, and no rain. The pool temp was like a bathtub.
I’m in AZ and my pool Is currently 90 and gross.
I am north of Houston and the pool is 87° with mostly tree cover and it’s a north facing pool so the house blocks direct sun for the afternoon. It’s fantastic. Last summer it got up to 95°, which was a little bit hot but then you just go out at night and it’s wonderful. For some people that was too hot. I’ll also get in a pool at 72°, below that I wimp out unless drinking heavily and coming out of a hot tub.
I’m in Humble and run a high sprinkler off the pump through the night and it made the water actually cool!
I’ve set them up as temporary shades in the summer at the nursery I work at and they really don’t catch that much wind. I’ve used twine or paracord and it’s lasted through the summer till it’s time to take them down.
>too hot to swim Man why do you guys live in TX lol
Also in Houston- what do you do during a big storm (like that windstorm last month)? Are you able to take them down yourself? Interested in getting some for our pool.
I'm on Wisconsin and swimming in shade is awful. We only get in when there is full sub. Kids are in no stop though because we heat to 90. I get it though, warmer climates it is absolutely needed!
The pool hits 90F here in TX in the shade, lol. We had 85F water starting in April this year, though it would have been there much sooner if we hadn't had a very unusually cloudy and rainy spring decreasing sun on the pool and adding cool water every couple days.
a little warmer than our first swim in 57 water in May!! Just the kids. I waited until 80...80-82 is where it stays for now
Since I put the shade sails up, the pool is sitting between 88 and 92 (feels cool still when it's this hot!) most days now that we're up around 100F during the day.
I live in Queen Creek, Arizona, an hour southeast of Phoenix. I've had mine up for seven years straight on my pergola. No problems. I thoroughly love it! I'm considering the whole pool area above the pool and pool deck. I may have to use several to cover everything I want to cover. Yet it is well worth it!
Glad to see AZ ringing in. I'm in tucson but afraid of the monsoon winds.
I perhaps went a little overboard when putting my posts into the ground. They are 4x4 10 ft poles with 4 ft of it in the ground with cement around it. With it being stuck into the ground that way it's way secure. Remember these aren't solid likes sales on a sailboat. The sun shades allow air to flow through it it'll still puff up but it's not going to sail away like a Mary Poppins umbrella. Mine's a 10x10 pergola with the sun shade bolted to the 4x4s on all four sides. It withstands microbursts that have toppled over cement walls in my HOA.
Yep, no issues with wind on mine in central TX.
We just put our up for the long weekends or parties or whatever.
We’ve used them I Phoenix every year. We have 3 covering our turf so it doesn’t burn the dogs feet (don’t get turf it’s awful). One always covers the pool and it does keep it cooler. Some do get slightly torn in winds but none are unusable and we’ve had them for 5-6 years. There year we bought a huge one on Temu for like 50 dollars which is a fraction of what they cost elsewhere and shockingly it’s made better then some other. They are also relatively inexpensive at Costco or you can by rolls with plastic rivets that you clip in. Those are all less expensive than buying them anywhere else. So if they rip (ours are still good) you don’t have to worry as much. My pool unusable without them as it’s like straight sun until 5-6 pm
I would also love to know and where the people live! I live in Kansas, I've been eyeing them for a while, but the wind here can be intense, I'm worried it would be a sail and take off.
And then it’s not in Kansas anymore. Sorry. Had to say it. 🤪
We have several shades around our pool and porch in Kansas. But we have them strapped down really well. They’re great about letting enough air through that the wind doesn’t cause too many issues.
Funny you should bring this up. I’m in Missouri and I’m just leaving my in-laws. They had one of these up on their patio - 5” steel poles anchored into 6” of reinforced concrete. The cover on the patio held up but generated enough force/leverage to break the fucking concrete at the poles base. Additionally another cover over the dog pens got ripped in two.
i would love to see what you have done? south texas here. I have a big cantilever umbrella (and some market umbrellas) but wind keeps turning the &@)@??& cantilever umbrella
My parents tried to install one in Kansas, you are right. Only lasted a season basically cause so damn annoying
Get triangular. 3 secure points are better. Shade sails is a common name
My brother bought one recently for his patio. It didn't survive the first gust, ripped the anchors out if the posts.
It just depends on the grade and how well you fasten them. Its a 2 tarp system at my local park and those have lasted for like 8-10 years.
They work for us. We have two triangle shade sails. Particularly good with our current heat wave. Keeps water just under bathtub temps, and provides enough shade for prevent fried skin.
What is 'bathtub temps'? Is this some sort of standardized temperature saying that I should know?
lol! No. Just my poor attempt at humor. A hot pool isn’t a fun pool. We keep a floating thermometer and once the water temp gets above 92+, it’s pretty miserable for us. The shade sails plus a cheap inlet fountain on the deep end help a lot.
They work pretty good until the wind tears them down.
The wind is what I’m worried about.
Good ones that are set up correctly will absolutely take wind. Mine has been through 2 tropical storms with no issues.
I have two triangle pieces so as the sun moves you get different areas that are shade and sun through out the day. Absolute love them and they are still up after Hurricane.
What’s considered a good one? We’ve been eyeballing these for a long time.
We’ve been looking at Coolaroo. Australian.
Get a bunch of carabiners and plenty of rope. We have 3 triangular sails that I rig up. Right now, my wife can’t do it comfortably, this weekend, I’m going to create guide rope lines to each corner of the three sails so you do t have to fight with them as much.
I use cleats with mine so that the setup and tear-down is pretty quick and easy. There's also the added benefit of not having to get the tension perfect.
The cheap imports online that are only fabric will break down quickly. The more expensive versions with the stainless steel cables along all edges will last much longer and perform better.
I use 4 large umbrellas to act as "shade islands". I strategically place them along the southern edge of my pool and one on the western side to give me shade in the evening. They last me a couple years and are easy to set up in the morning and take down in the evening.
It does work, but one thing to consider is the color of the sail! It will tint everything underneath it since it’s translucent. so consider what color sail you select, a friend bought a yellow one and had to return it as it made his pool look like it was filled with piss.
OP here I’m in the Myrtle Beach, SC area. My pool is currently 94°F.
We use cantilevered umbrella’s on rollable bases (with locking wheels - lesson learned.) and added a fountain to one of the jets. Brings it from 92 to 85.
Seriously considering the umbrella route. 2 fountains arrive tomorrow.
I’m not kidding about the locking wheels and want to add: close and TIE the umbrellas shut when there’s wind. My lesson learned was that I had to figure out how to get a 10’ umbrella and it’s base (200lbs), as well as 2- 50lb metal weights out of the pool because it was left open with ONE wheel locked. And we got a high wind event overnight. And the water was 50 degrees. Keep in mind the umbrella was wide open in the pool…. Like that sail in your picture but you know 10ft umbrella shaped with a metal skeleton that was scooping water!!! Heavy HEAVY water! ….I’ll leave you there, with THAT nightmare, so you remember I said LOCK ALL the wheels and close and TIE all the umbrellas…… EVERY TIME!!
AZ here. Have used these in the past. It makes about a 2 -3 degree difference in pool temp. My pool was 92 in the am and 96 at 4pm. So having this kept the high to 94. 20k gal w/ a white bottom pool. Got ratty after 2 seasons and always had crap on top of it.
Me in Illinois where last week pool hit 89f, now it’s back down to 77 and I hate my life. I wish my problem was keeping my pool cool instead of hot.
You would think so but it’s really hard to cool a pool as opposed to heating it.
Houston here, so probably similar. My water temp is 89 with about 50% coverage with the sail shade.
I have one but I don’t have it over the pool. I have it in place of my umbrella that kept coming down in storms and getting destroyed. I put 4X4 posts in the ground with concrete, took 2X6’s as cross beams to keep it square and then put the awning on that using turn buckles to keep it tight. It’s a 10X13 and it’s perfect if you’re able to keep it tight. If it gets to jumping in the wind I can see them being shredded. Make sure you pay extra for one, you get what you pay for on Amazon with the awnings Edit:want to add, mine has been up for 4 years, this is year 5. Same awning. Only comes down in the late fall and goes back up after our last snow fall. I’m in central Indiana. So T-storms can come in with a vengeance along with straight line winds.
Any links for the one you bought? I’m also in Midwest, but have been thinking about one at an angle to keep tree debris out of the pool.
Mine works! I'm in San Antonio. We've had it break twice, but hubby changed the hardware, and we haven't had an issue since. Ours is the largest one Amazon has. Our pool was in full sunlight, as we lost all of our trees in the Snowpocolypse a couple of years ago. The difference is huge! This is my very first comment on this site, and I haven't a clue how to post a pic, I'm sorry.
Yes, they work and make a big difference. If you put them up right, with decent hardware they can hold up to pretty decent winds. I’m in the California desert, we get Santa Ana winds and in my area they’ll get up in the 40’s typically. I take them down if it’s going to be worse than that, in my valley we had winds last November that were up around 60 and my smaller sale (10x10) above my koi pond survived it.
I've had no issues with wind in excess of 70mph on mine in central TX.
November it’s not uncommon to hit 90 in our area, but I usually take them down for winter.
I just put one up this year after the pool was unusable in August last year. I'm hoping it will cool the water 5+ degrees.
I have one with steel cables in the edges and corners. In Southern Louisiana so lots of rain and wind, no issues.
We have a 24ft by 24ft unit over our pool in central Texas. No issues with high winds and keeps the water temp much more comfortable.
Shade sails are super common in the northern parts of Australia. Usually mounted from large steel poles so they survive the tropical storms and cyclones. They’re awesome, without them the sun is simply too hot to consider using the pool in the middle of the day, with these there’s always some part of the pool you can sit in. And they help keep the pool much cooler through the really hot parts of summer. Obviously placement is key. As the install. Those cheap ones tend to rip and not last. https://northsideshadesails.com.au/gallery/ They can turn a 90F pool into a 70F pool in the middle of summer
Yes, Austin area TX here, pool runs about 5F cooler than it did without the shade up, plus I can swim without getting cooked.
service techs hate them, how can you brush the walls without the pole hitting it.
That's why you use a robot. Only use a brush on my steps now.
In southern México. Just added a second one today. Covers about 60% of the pool. Love 'em. I'm in a windy area, so they are put up and taken down depending upon the winds.
Las Vegas here, works well over my pool and side yard. When it comes to high winds I have to take it down though. Lasted 3 years so far. No issues. Figure out an easy pulley system to put up and take down and well worth it. Very cheap too.
In KY, we have one over the middle of our pool and it’s great to have an area with shade for most of the day
I had six of the 8x8x8 triangular shades installed inside our pool screen. They overlapped and provided pretty good shade. Lasted close to 8 years? No issues through S.Fla. tropical storms and maybe a couple of small hurricanes. Perhaps the only issue was occasional accumulation of cobwebs. I drilled through the aluminum screen frame and installed eyelet bolts, used nylon rope to the shade d-rings, and to adjustable turnbuckles that now and then needed a turn to tighten. The turnbuckles were hooked onto the eyelet bolts. They were even ok to stay dry under light rain.
No, needs to be on a boat to actually sail
Yes. I have mine on bungees. No issues, even in storms. I’ll replace it every other year as they are super cheap. Totally worth it. Must have for DFW.
Depends on on how high you jump into it from.
In cincinnati, hot humid summers and have had one up for 5 or 6 years. Works great for shade by the pool and surprised its not tore up at all. Ordered from Amazon
I’ve got a triangle shape and yes, it will help some with the pool temp, and providing some shade. Mine is anchored to the house, and then into 2 4x4 cedar posts set in cement. So wind hasn’t been a problem.
Live in Phoenix greater area. Put in triangle shade sail fairly large, and wind broke my 4x4 wood post. Metal pole bolted into cement or reinforced with cement is the way.
I've been using them over my pool in Tampa for about 16 years. Water temps is about 86-88 when daily highs are 93-98 (in other words, between thunderstorms). The pool was nearly unusable without them our first year. The Cool-a-Roo shades have somehow survived 16 years of Florida sun but are starting to show some wear. I have them strung up somewhat loose under the pool cage. I generally use bungee cords for tension and large sail (23' x23') has a pair of ropes under it to limit sagging. I know this isn't the "right" way to do it but I have no interest in testing the load limits of the pool cage by stretching them tight. The shades flop around in the wind and don't really catch the wind like a sail. That said, I do roll them up when we have a tropical storm or hurricane headed our way.
I put one up at significant expense and ended up taking it down and replacing it with a gazebo… the problem with these is unless you have some sort of blocker to the west the late afternoon sun still Beats on you and this does nothing
Yes. I have one by the pool, not over it. My wife wasn’t a fan until she sat underneath it.
grass is always greener i guess. it gets over 110 here in the summer and i'm out trimming the trees to let more light hit the pool because it only gets to the low 80s a few days a year. last thing i want is MORE shade.
I live just north of Austin. I have these on a pulley. When the wind gets crazy, I lower them to reduce stress to both the shade and the environment. When I have company and low wind, I raise them up. While they did drop the temp in the pool a couple degrees, I mainly got them because the pool is on the south side of the house. They allowed us to swim in shade.
We had a sun sail on our back deck as we were full sun! We had it professionally installed to the house (2story) and two large metal poles. It went through the worst wind storms and thunderstorms no problem!
We had one in Seattle for a few years. Worked great to give shade on a sunny day and even gave cover from rain. Not good in snow though. It can break in snow/freezing rain.
A few of my customers have these. There is a very noticeable difference when you step out from under it.
As a trampoline? No
Yes it helps quite a lot honestly. With chem maintenance and temps. Get a qualified contractor installer though.
Buy Sunbrella brand and use turnbuckles to tighten them tight. I had one last 8 years.
I have 2 shades bought at Costco, and they are GREAT! I also have a DIY fountain attached to the output of the pump, which shoots multiple streams of water up into the air in a short arc all night to bring the water temp down (assuming that the night temp is lower than the pool water temp, of course).
I have one that works and lasts but It's cause I put it over a wide steel arch and wind doesnt catch in it.
I’m in a hot part of California and have a 12x24’ shade. The pool is currently 87°. The one year we didn’t have a shade the pool got to 92 degrees.
Works wonders under pecan trees.
I have 2 big triangle sails over my pool in South Florida. Pool is southern exposure, so without them, my pool is like bathwater in the summer. Def makes a difference
Clearwater Fl and they work great to stop that hot sun
Square ones sag a lot. Two triangle ones generally work better. They stretch a lot.
My neighbors have one here in Phoenix. They are constantly taking it down to the big shit off of it
I have had 4x4s split wit the force from winds. Posts need to be 6x4 at a minimum.
I want to do this for the leaves ! And have some sort of angle so they can fall off outside the fence around my pool
Yes. Used for 10yrs in sc. works well.
They do work, but don’t go with the biggest sizes. The real big ones catch a lot of wind and rip the eyelets out. We bought a 15x20 and it makes a huge difference. But we thought it indestructible, and had to have it repaired. Now can only keep it up when winds are relatively calm. The other option may be to buy from a company that sells commercial grade. Ours was from Amazon
No, they will not stop falling bodies.
I am looking to do this. I have a 20x50 pool
North of houston here We have one over our pool and it’s amazing Keeps water cool and you in the shade Must have
I have a shade sail, they're awesome
10°f difference with 1/3 of pool shaded South East Florida 15k gallons in ground I take it down when the pool temp drops below 80 and it jumps up ten degrees extending the swim season.
I have 3/4 of my pool covered with these. I put them in early June. It slows down the water temp getting too high and my pool stays cleaner because UV lights eats chlorine. I live in phoenix AZ for reference
Thinking about Rome
Yes they work. If you ever go to a public park they use these and the area is significantly cooler. Enough that kids don't get burned from the equipment.
That’s so crazy to me as well as I’m up north, NJ/PA area and we use the pool to cool off even when the heat is in the high 90’s like the last 2 weeks. I understand that Texas heat is different tho.
Yes. I have one attached to my pool cage. I only did half the pool as it will keep the pool cold blocking out the sun’s warmth. Central Florida here
Yes. I don’t have one over the pool but it’s what I use to keep my pump and filter out of the direct sun in AZ. It works.
Yes! I have two in my pool area and it allows us to tolerate the heat and gives the grandkids an area of protection in the pool.
I put in a triangle one 18 x 18 x 18. Anchored to house (2x) and single post across pool. Living in Dallas, we find that it does make a several degree difference in water temp and keeps the direct sun off of you through the day. It’s a DIY project. Lots of great vids on YouTube that walk you through planning and install.
Having used these at Burning Man… damn right they do!
My pool only peaks to 80 - 82 degrees for a few glorious days in mid July. We need a few heatwaves to reach the 80’s. Sadly, just one cool night (60’s) and it’s back down to 76. SE Pennsylvania
Omg my pool is over 90 degrees by June. Can we trade? Loll
We have one and have for years def worth the trouble
Love your pool, wish I would have gotten a rectangular pool instead of a kidney shaped.
Shade works. It’s nice
They definitely cut the heat, but the SPF isn't as good as deep shade.
I live in Barcelona and the wind was strong enough to rip it right off.
Sounds like a nice problem to have, imo. My wife and I bought a house with a pool in the northeast. Pool is on the north side of the property and has trees on the adjacent properties that only allow sun to hit the pool from 9:30A to 1:30P. That’s it. We had to buy a solar cover and the amount of time we spend on skimming leaves and twigs and keeping it clean outweighs the amount of time we can actually use it. We opened it in late May and I already hate it.
They help, yes!
Buy one and I will come test your pool 😃
Lots of comments so not sure if you’ll see this but they do work for shade but you have to set poles to get them up right. Wind will take out any poles not cemented in properly. I recently took ours down and went with a purple umbrella and concrete base attachment from Amazon. I highly recommended!
Absolutely. I have mine in south TX and over deep end to drop temp a couple degrees. Make sure your plan includes how to support it with wind. I know where all my pool lines run, so located long t-posts and used paracord...mine is 20' triangle only over deep end...suggest some rigging with at least some spring to it to give it ability to flex in higher winds. There is a LOT of force when the winds is blowing hard, so dont halfway rig it...notice that pic has legit posts and that's needed for that size...mine is halfway thru 2nd season and doing well...also has very strong rigging hoops.
Hey, I have a couple of these up over my pool and deck. If you want them to stay up all summer you have to put them up correctly and not buy cheap rigging(?). I learned this the hard way. The sail you get matter a bit colors and whatnot, some material is a little nicer than others but they're all basically a fancy tarp. After a few trial and errors. I used pressure treated 4×4s. Qwik crete. Don't buy the cheap crap on Amazon for cables and connectors. They snap and can barely take a 20mph gust. You need solid vinyl wire rope 1/8inch, the two piece wire rope clips some decent 6inch turnbuckles. The cable can be hard to cut if you don't have bolt cutters. I used a dremmel. I'll send you a pick of the rigging. We love ours.
Yes they're awesome. Pain in the ass to hang up best with at least 2 people 4 is better because you need all four corners tight. Hang up sooner in the season to keep the pool cooler. But mostly it's so you can swim in full sun and not bake like a turkey.
What do you do with all the water that collects and weighs it down after a day of rain?
One side gets sloped so water runs off.
I use 3 sails over the pool. Fortunately, we have enough structures (neighbor’s garage, pool house, etc) and trees - so I have not had to put in any posts - just long runs of wire. Having some spots of shade in the pool both morning and afternoon make it worth the annual hassle of trying to remember how to get these things up every summer.
We have a couple of these in LA. They work great! One tip to help with the wind is to anchor the corners using [spring anchors](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Loop-Spring-Tension-Blind-Fixing-Shade-Sail-Fixings-Stainless-Steel-Accessories-4-Helical-Springs-8-Carabiners-Tents-Awnings-Camping-Pcs/5442479607?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101587174). We also replaced the ropes with 1/16 stainless steel rope, and used bolt snap quick release connectors, which makes it a breeze to take them down at the end of the season.
Idk about pools, but I have been using them for 8yrs in my yard. They work very well for shade and reducing heat. Add a mister line down one side, and you get shade & cool mist.
My daughter uses one for their Koi Pond. It lowers the temp enough that the fish don't die.
Tensile membrane systems professional here. No. This won"t work. Flat membrane design is against the theory of tensile membrane systems. It is prone to flapping under wind load. It should have an anticlastic surface. Still, wind loads should be analyzed for the memnrane material used and the form.
A what surface? Talk down to us. Explain it like we’re five.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tensile_structure its those fancy canopies that are designed to be a permanent shade or roof without being destroyed by high winds. they look like neat geometric shapes
Uh…that’s still a lot of jargon, and doesn’t define anticlimactic- er, uh - anticlastic surface. But, hey, I’ll just Google that. NVM
Basically it has to be wavy and tense for it not to flap. But I do see these in parks all over Utah and Nevada doing just fine
Check out the big brain on Brett!
My neighbor had one of those here in north Texas and the storm we had last year snapped it. Then he put it back up and over time it started sagging. I will never buy one
Bad install. They’re super common where I live, but there’s a way to do them properly.
Yes have one over my deck. Tied off with paracord. Rises up and down with the wind, pretty soothing.
I have a 17x17x17 triangle over my pool. The best thing we ever did. It does help keep it cool in the dog days of summer and half the pool is in shade, so your not directly in sun the whole time.
Install a good size fountain that runs off your pump at night discapates the heat
They do to an extent. 90f currently, with shade for a day I get 85-87 so some break. The thing is, if pump is running and air temp is 90+ then your water just adjusts too. It’s your overnight lows for temp that lower it with the evaporation.
I have two triangles. Both are anchored to our deck roof and I clamped some aluminum poles to my fence along with some rope and clamp things. I don't know what they are called but they use them to tighten sailboat ropes. Dallas Texas. No issues with windy conditions.
Shade sails work to make the area more tolerable. Wind shouldn't be an issue when mounted properly. If you can't dig a 3ft deep hole hire someone that can.
I have a large pool, so I use two of those side to side 10(+)' x 20', over the shallow end; my pool is 20' x 40'. It helps drastically to keep the pool water cool and refreshing throughout the whole swim; else it will be cool for a second, then feels like luke warm bathwater. Also, it's a nice shade while you're swimming, keeping the sun off of you. For reference, I live near Fresno, and summers are 100-114°F; generally whatever the hottest temperature is (where people live) in the country, that's what the temperature is here. P.S. This also helps maintain your chems, specifically your Cl- which breaks down heavily in the sun.
Yes
Absolutely.
They work great. I have 2 triangle shades attached through pulleys and cleats so I can adjust them. My pool gets full sun from morning till about 5pm. As soon as the water temp hits 90° I run one up over one end of the pool. The temp usually drops back to about 84° but will slowly creep back up. As soon as it hits 90° I put the second one up.
whats wrong with a cantilevered umbrella? you can move them, adjust the angle and close then with its windy.
Had one in the past, word of advise get one with a warranty or high quality. Once it's hung, the eyeholes where the rope connects the shade to a pole or whatever is the breaking point, mine lasted 6 weeks and with the winds (which were not even storm winds - just daily summer winds) the eyeholes started breaking out.
They certainly do
I love ours. I have a trampoline style spring on two of the corners. I believe mine is the same model as the pic. It flies pretty high in the wind but has never caused an issue.
Yes, until the slightest bit of wind. Do smaller multiple ones.
I like the triangle shaped ones better. I secure two sides and put a weight on the third corner through an eye hook or a pulley. They survive high winds better this way. I haven't had any luck with the square shades.
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Yes until winds above 25 mph rip it away!
Yeah they work
No
I just ordered one for northern Louisiana. Will up late later this week.
Just take it down when it gets windy.. I didn’t and mine to stretch quite a bit
Just installed two triangles in AZ and love them. Get plenty of shade on parts of the pool while others stay in the sun.
I use a 14 foot shade attached to metal posts attached to my 6x6 inch fence posts. The wooden fence posts are embedded in the ground with concrete and are 3 feet deep. The metal posts are on one side aide of the pool and are about 10 feet tall while the other side is attached to the house and a tree at 8 foot high. It holds up well and makes the pool amazingly more enjoyable.
cheap ones suck if it rains
She’ll never fly with all that water in it
I have a 30 foot round pool and would love to find one of these gigantic enough to have made. I can do the steel posts, etc. but I have no idea where I could get one that big? Any ideas? Maybe there’s a better solution?
My pool deck gets really hot so I put one up over a section of the deck. Pool is currently 93 degrees so going to put another over the pool. My fence is a little over 8 feet, so I'm just gonna mount to fence and use pulleys. You can see here. https://www.reddit.com/r/CozyPlaces/s/8Ck151VkHx
Yes, they work well but take them down before a big storm. Plus, ours held water so that wasn't good. Overall it's a win if you want to stay out of the sun.
Mine is partially covered by trees, which keeps the water significantly cooler than the temperature outside. So I'm sure you'd get the same results with that.
Yes!
Yup, I have one, I love it.
Think I can run this setup off of palm trees?
In FL and we keep one over the deep end where we have bench seating and a waterfall. It is the hang out spot when you want to cool off without the sun beating down on you. The fair skin folks hang out there in general as well. Doesn't keep the pool cool, just blocks the intensity of the sun on yourself.
For a year or two until the sun absolutely eats it up
Can’t live without it in South Carolina.
For keeping leaves out, hell yes! 👍🥳