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SiphenPrax

The final Katy Perry number 1…………or is it?


Fleetwood-matt

God it’s so crazy that this was her last, especially because at the time I would have never predicted it would be. She burned so brightly in the early 2010s and it really felt like she would always have a hit coming


maxime0299

Whoever chose the singles after Dark Horse… I just wanna talk… Birthday and This Is How We Do over Walking On Air and Legendary Lovers? Criminal


dkdkdkosep

did feels not hit number 1??


dleonsgk1995

In europe and the uk in the us it got to top 20


dkdkdkosep

ah makes sense i’m in the UK and it was absolutely massive over here


Latrans_

So far... (fingers crossed for it to change)


Spiritual_Lie2563

It'd be interesting to see, but then there's the "wait...this song was 10 years ago? OH GOD..." factor, and after 10 years, it's pretty likely the book is written. It'll be different when more songs get closer to modern time.


Frajer

Between this and ET Katy had some wild guest rap verses, I have no idea how Juicy J got to Dahmer


Navigator369

ET is my favourite song by Katy Perry. The vibe of the song is just so euphoric. The part “you’re from a whole another world…a different dimension…you open my eyes…” just gives me an eargasm. I replay it constantly.


Latrans_

Tell me what's next: Alien sex!


mantasteve

Imma probe you


Positively-Fleabag85

I love the kanye feature. Too bad he's a jackass


uberpirate

I loved Ye for a long time but his feature on ET is probably my least favorite thing he's ever done. Otherwise I agree, it's a great track.


skyppie

You really didn't like "Tell me what's next, alien sex?" That is pure art.


ItsGotThatBang

And dispensing with the metaphors entirely immediately after.


Relo_bate

Nah it’s really funny wordplay wise, reminds me of his verse on make her say but simplified for a pop audience


OranguTangerine69

damn you must have missed that cudi song where his entire guest verse is him setting up a diarrhea joke


Illuminastrid

My favorite version of ET is the music video version, where it combined her bridge verse from the album version and a slightly different Kanye verse from the remix. Till this day, I'm still sad that version wasn't released officially in streaming, you need to rip the music video itself if you want it.


Navigator369

That version is also streaming. It’s the album version. On deluxe edition of the album, you’ll find both versions. I like the Katy only version more, so do most other people lol


SpookyHalloween1

[I found this yesterday & got to listen to it on the way home from work today](https://on.soundcloud.com/hSLAH)


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let’s not forget california gurls…”kiss her touch her squeeze her buns” *katy perry moan*


Shreiken_Demon

My favourite part of the Dahmer line was seeing folks who just have the song in their regular playlist rotation, and then being shocked to discover what the line actually after watching the Evan Peters show.


Last_Lifeguard3536

did people not know who jeffrey dahmer was until katy perry 😳😳😳


ItsGotThatBang

Some very young people might not.


PlagueLords

The true integration of trap into pop and general audiences! It’s a little dated, it’s very trap-Lite, but it was always going to be. Katy Perry being believably “dark and witchy” was never going to happen but I remember the video being camp, people really like documenting her descent into flopdom as a disastrous series or circumstances but she was still relevant from 2007-2015-ish which is pretty impressive for the mass and many shifts in popular culture.


thegeecyproject

It still kinda blows my mind how big of a hit “Dark Horse” was in 2014. Even if it was Katy’s final #1 hit, its success as a minimalist trap-influenced track did seem to signal pop’s impending shift away from dance-pop bangers and into something moodier. The Migos had only just popped on the scene and things would only get bigger for trap from there.     If I recall correctly, Katy had a fan competition to decide what song was going to be the next single off of *Prism*, and this song won by a sizable margin against the vastly superior “Walking On Air”. I’m still a little bitter about it, but perhaps this song’s success was a sign that the tastes of the general public were changing.  As for the song itself, I don’t think it’s as terrible as people say - but I much preferred it when it was called [“Moments In Love” by Art of Noise.](https://youtu.be/cen22TBHo9M?si=Xx3Q0GMaJHz-uqzX)


poopypoopy1125

>It still kinda blows my mind how big of a hit “Dark Horse” was in 2014. Yeah. looking at its chart run, it spent more than a year on the hot 100. which was less common back then compared to now apparently, Dark Horse' popularity hurt the chances of later Prism singles becoming big hits too (although, I'm sure those videos didn't help)


seitengrat

now I know why Walking on Air didn't get the promo it so deserved. I always knew Dark Horse was big but not to the extent that it could overshadow later Prism singles


Top_Doubt6249

If people liked the songs, the latter singles still would have taken off. Birthday and TIHWD were cute but very disposable and mid in terms of catchiness. I think Walking On Air could have been a hit even with Dark Horse’s longevity. Teenage Dream alone is proof that big hits “overshadowing” subsequent singles is a fallacy. A bop is a bop.


NinkiCZ

I do think teenage dream would’ve done better if it was released as a lead because California girls was so so big I think people wanted to hear a different voice. Teenage dream turned out to be a timeless classic so I’m not mad about it but I always thought and still think it’s her best song to date.


thegeecyproject

Just got flashbacks to the Birthday and This Is How We Do videos…yikes 😬


petitsfilous

Tbf, this was my reaction to This Is How We Do on the album, but I thought she'd had enough sense to pick Walking on Air or International Smile as the singles, lol


SiphenPrax

People thought Walking on Air and a couple of others would be the next single but Dark Horse was so big it ate up the time for Katy and her team to release another hit single during the Prism era.


outfitinsp0

My fave of the album was Legendary Lovers


cardihatesariana

Taste that’s imo her best song ever and pop perfection


Illuminastrid

The interesting thing about trap, I remember when that term was more used for EDM tracks that are dark-sounding, stuffs like Flosstradamus, Baauer, DJ Snake, TNGHT, and Yellow Claw to name a few. Hell, that was my definition of trap before because I wasn't into the rap scene back then (I only knew about Migos and their contemporaries about a year later but I do recall and know about Future then). Looking back on it, both trap EDM and trap in rap were up-and-coming at the same time and were set on becoming the next big hit sound of the decade, while trap EDM ultimately took a step back and settled on their niche, trap hip hop blew up and became the biggest and most influential genre of the decade.


omg_its_drh

Comments like you’re are always interesting to me because I can tell you didn’t actually read the article before commenting, and I personally don’t understand commenting on an article before actually engaging with it.


Okaythom

Yes! The fan competition was a joint effort with Pepsi to see which one would be her next single. Both Walking On Air and Dark Horse had snippets available for voters. Even if Walking on Air was the better song, Dark Horse had the better snippet (it was just the “so you wanna play with magic” section of the song). It was such a fun initiative, i don’t think any pop artist has done something similar in recent times


isntitisntitdelicate

nah dark horse >>>>> walking on air


raejc

I don't know why I never put together that this song sampled Art of Noise -- and I'm in the age group for when "Moments in Love" was the quiet storm staple.


VogueLover120169

Dark horse is the only Katy Perry song I have saved. It goes so hard and I listen to it often still. I think there are probably a lot of people that fell/fall into my category haha


Global_Perspective_3

Imo it’s not terrible or anything it just hasn’t aged the best


Icy-Adhesiveness6928

I remember predicting how this song would end up becoming a big hit when I heard its snippet for the first time during a Pepsi campaign. One of the most "organic" hits ever. The fact that this smash practically cannibalized "Unconditionally" on the radio as a non-single despite her label's efforts to push the latter will always be funny.


Twenty-Uno

People always get hung up on the "eat your heart out like Jeffrey Dahmer" line, but the line that's always stuck with me is "She can be my sleeping beauty I'm gon put her in a coma". What do you mean by that Juicy J?? Are you threatening to knock her out???


cardihatesariana

I always assumed he meant he was gonna um… have fun.. with her so hard she would be put in a coma 😭😭


TotallyNotAnExecutiv

American culture actually peaked with this hit. Nothing before and nothing after has climbed the summit of sonical perfection. Dark Horse is a flawless testament to the way we as a society hopes, dreams, and envisions a more beautiful world. In all seriousness though, this is a legitimately great pop song that has entered the canon of "songs that will fill the greatest hits playlists for Gen Z when we're in our 40s". Even Juicy J knocks it out of the park


whatisupsdr

yeah idk why everyone’s hating on it, it’s definitely much more interesting than roar


strawberriesandkiwi

It’s an objectively solid pop song and definitely overhated, but idk why I could NEVER get into it. However, I prefer it than Roar, which is an abomination to me.


Bordersz

It is pop perfection. To be honest a lot of Katy’s pop hits are pop perfection. It sucks she didn’t have a longer reign though bc I’m really missing that fun, fresh, catchy pop that doesn’t sound like a rehash of something. Between Katy flopping and Rihanna going ghost pop radio has a huge void.


katycat162534

Dark Horse was the perfect crossover hit, people know the lyrics to a lot of Katy's songs but Dark Horse is the one "cool" song that is "acceptable" to be sung.


dank_as_fuck

Why would juicy J not hit it out of the park?


kerwinklark26

This should have won a Grammy NGL.


Shreiken_Demon

“Drunk In Love” peaking at #2 (agree with Tom, a total 10/10 without a few cringey Jay lines) behind “Dark Horse” really is quite poetic in hindsight. Both had sense to anticipate the wave of lofi trap becoming the dominant sound of the latter half of the decade, but Beyoncé had the talent, ambition and credibility where she can go forward in the sound and not completely embarrass herself.


leavingthekultbehind

This song is overhated idc


MasterTeacher123

I grew up on 36 so it was nice seeing juicy get this look


MattBrey

I remember how everyone hated this at first and then it slowly became clear that it was gonna be the single based on how much the GP liked it. She also had a clearly dark and witchy theme going on at first with the performances but changed it for the video. I was hoping she would keep it. All in all I love the song, it's very of its time but it's catchy as hell


joshually

I love this song so much... but I hated this trend of no-chorus pop song that got sooo prevalent during this era


Justin57Time

I get what you're saying, but this is not really the best example. Even though this song does have a drop, it's not correct to say it has no chorus because it does have it. When you get to "so you wanna play with magic?" it really feels like the chorus, it's not like those songs that had what felt like a pre-chorus and then a beat drop.


joshually

is that the chorus tho? or the pre-chorus? i dont know honestly i'm stupid and ignorant


Justin57Time

You're not stupid. Having different interpretations for a song structure is okay and that's why it's interesting to talk about it. And what you said applies to many songs from the mid 2010s, it's not really an ignorant take. But in Dark Horse I really think we have a proper chorus that ends when the beat drops and it just goes back to the instrumental part of the verses after that, it doesn't have like an instrumental part that serves as the high moment of the song. At the final chorus, the song just ends as well. If it was written with a chord progression that made it feel like a pre-chorus, the song would feel unfinished.


360Saturn

I still find it hard to believe that a number 1 pop song on Billboard featured lines where the artist *mentions in a positive way cannibal serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer*


Renegadeforever2024

Fire


Poydoo

I love this song a ton, but I'd be lying if I said Juicy J's verse isn't the single worst rap verse in a pop song I've ever heard.


Illuminastrid

That's Academy-Award winning Juicy J to you! Payphone's Wiz Khalifa verse is worse tho, albeit iconic in its bad way.


thegeecyproject

> She gon’ be my Sleeping Beauty, I’m gon’ put her in a coma What do you mean by that, Mr. J? 🤨


klip_7

Nah it’s fire and funny as hell


Deep_Performance_

Evanescence's "Bring Me To Life" rap verse.


legendtinax

Absolutely wild how massive this song was and then Katy immediately dropped off and was never really cool or relevant again


KindOfANerd4

I mean she still had like 2/3 decently sized singles after this, she fell off with the haircut


Latrans_

She didn't fell off inmediately after it. Birthday went next, and did good overall. This Is How We Do flopped, but honestly, it's not fair to ask for another Teenage Dream type of era for anyone. Then the superbowl happened, and it was great. Then she took a break. She fell off inmediately after Chained To The Rhythm, not after Dark Horse.


Nerfeveryone

I didn’t know Lecrae bowed out of the lawsuit involving this song. Probably smart, both because it was a dumb suit and because he probably didn’t want to be known as “That Christian rapper who sued Katy Perry.”


milkoverspill

Walking On Air >>


starataneori

a cultural moment… and this is the highest eligible female song to achieve 19x RIAA platinum too


VapidRapidRabbit

“E.T.” Is my favorite single of hers, but this is definitely top 3 (after “Teenage Dream”).


Bigwilliam360

This single art is really cool


Yinye7

Probably my favorite song from her 


bunywabbit

A couple of months ago I got high and listened to this song for an hour straight… such a banger


yourfacesucksass

I think this song gets too much hate because of how big it was, but its success tells you just how much people loved it. As far as the fan voting and Walking On Air losing out to this, I think we have to realize that Houses music is not as widely attractive to the gp, for the most part.


Latrans_

I wasn't expecting Tom to like this one. I mean, he didn't like E.T. that much, so I was expecting the worst. What a surprise xd. As for me, I really love this song. The beat goes hard, and the lyrics are pretty seductive and fitting to the tone of the song. The way Katy sings them sounds so good. And that video is hilarious, and very Katy-like in the best sense possible. It's funny and entertaining, what else can I ask? I don't know anything about Juicy J, but his verse is pretty good too. He has a nice flow, and I like that. Overall, Dark Horse is 9/10 to me. Not only that, it's so nostalgic of my first months getting actively interested in popular music. On a side and funny note, I remember being so confused about the Jeffrey Dahmer line back in the day. I didn't know anything about him or who he was, so 13 years old me thought, given the lyrics, that they were talking about Jeff The Killer (that copypasta that was, among others, popular in the early 2010s) xd. I hated and still hate that Jeff The Killer picture. It's still disturbing Dx.


No-Organization-9137

Her last number one so far. A true cultural reset. Let's wait and see if she will have her 10th number one with KP6


JumpingBorders

Whats with the hate to this song? Im shocked to see so many tasteless bitches on here lol


Mr628

The song itself is good, the only thing bad about it was the Juicy J verse. Not a rap is crap take because in more cases I like rap more than pop, but that verse is really bad. One thing about rap-pop collabs is that you can tell when it’s label manufactured, forced bullshit vs when it’s a genuine collaboration between people who are at least familiar with each others music.


espeonage777

We need an anniversary remix with Doja replacing the rap verse


Icantlikeeveryone

Not my fav song but would still jam to it


skyppie

Gosh I remember when the competition between Dark Horse and Lady Gaga's Applause. Unfortunately Applause couldn't hold a candle much to my dismay.


musthavecupcakes_19

The competition was between Roar and Applause. Dark Horse came out later.


skyppie

Oh was it???? Ack, thanks for the correction!!


Maushold

You might have confused Dark Horse into the mix because it was released as a successful promo single ([#17 on H100](https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2013-10-05/)) while Applause and Roar were still top ten.


skyppie

Yes I did!


maxime0299

I vividly remember all the controversy around this song and the music video. Ahhh good days, Katy seemed untouchable


wickedcherub

I forgot about Bon Appetit - silly lyrics but I always thought it was a real bop


skeletorisbae

not that my opinion matters but it’s crazy being a massive fan of juicy j learning he did a song w katy perry 💀


cozysapphire

This song blew my mind when it came out, it’s so much fun! I even love the Juicy verse, it was super easy to learn which I liked. The music video wasn’t my fav, but I adored the set up for [this performance](https://youtu.be/_gM6k8w6y9I?si=ePCFRKedD4KAkjBr) for the Grammys!


sunny_d55

This song is so fun to dance to on Just Dance.


Positively-Fleabag85

This song goes hard. Will hold up in the years to come.


cardihatesariana

Iconic beautiful amazing intelligent highkey one of my favorite pop songs ever the melody is genius during the verses especially this song is like ear candy and even the rap verse worked so well even if it’s out of pocket 😭😭


razorsharp3000

I used to hate this song and couldn’t understand its success, but now I have warmed up to it.


JumpingBorders

One of the best pop songs ever perios


simtek34

I still find the first Juicy J verse to sound out of place because I'm used to not hearing it ever. KS95, a radio station here in the Twin Cities, MN area, to this day, cuts out the "She's a beast" part of the song and goes straight to "Damn I think I love her, shawty so bad."


frozenrainbow

THIS WAS MY SONG AT 15 RAHHHHHHHHHH


RosaPalms

The production is absolutely beautiful and the vocal performances are also on-point. The only knock on this is that the lyrics are a bit dippy, but who could possibly give a fuck when it sounds so fucking great.


Spectrum2700

Am I the only one who saw the name "Juicy J" and thought she'd teamed up with Jessie J? Boy was I disappointed


PurpleSpaceSurfer

I remember a Pokémon themed parody of this song called "Dark Pulse." Which BTW had the coolest sound effect in the Gen IV and V games.


Soalai

I always thought Juicy's verse in this song is absolute ass. I credit it for being ahead of its time, but I hate listening to it (in big part due to the fact that there's a Jeffrey Dahmer reference, which irked me to the point where I'd turn off the radio whenever the song came on). The actual video is ass too, though the live performances of it at the Grammys and Super Bowl were good. Much more interesting is Katy's downfall and the whole Witness/Smile saga. Lotta mixed feelings here for me. Next week is an arguably even more massive song that has been burned into my brain as a camp-counselor-turned-teacher.


PPRmenta

I hate this song to an irracional degree guys I'm so sorry


susomeljak

Yeah it's not even good for a throwback. Quite the product of its time and it stayed there.


Global_Perspective_3

Heard this everywhere growing up. Kinda dated now


kimpernickel

Wait, this was Katy's last number one? This is one of her worst songs.


SiphenPrax

Yep. Her last one. Never made it back to number 1 after this.


Poydoo

*yet


kevpsp101

This song killed her career imo. It was a catchy song that fit the edm trend at the time, but it overstayed its welcome so much that I swear everyone around me would change the station anytime it came on.


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sbuhj

By whom??? There’s absolutely no way it’s even close to the worst