yeah but its kind of a non issue with an app like this. I think there is a small minority of people who gain a significant amount of clinical experience during school, most take a gap year. Idk it just came across as if he was trying to diminish the reality of his more than significant clinical experience
If homie didn’t get the IA, they wouldn’t have had the drive to get the 4.0/524. Lessons learned: Get an IA as soon as you can and turn into academic venom.
This would be peak neuroticism in the premed world. "Guys I didn't get caught cheating and selling exams, do I still have a shot at a 528 MCAT and 5.0 GPA?
Any action that makes it to the Dean of Students will typically end up being an IA. IAs fall into three main categories:
1) Academic Honesty related IAs: Very serious unless it was something minor like forgetting put quotes around something you cited. (Still need to own up to those as well.)
2) Drugs and alcohol related IAs due to students getting caught with contraband on campus: Somewhat serious but adcoms were young and dumb once as well, so as long as it’s not a pattern and you own up to it.
3) Dorm policy related IAs: Incredibly minor and only serious if you don’t report it. Some schools escalate these things very quickly but no one’s getting rejected from medical school because they got a noise complaint once or had candles in their dorm room.
To this day I’m not 100% sure it’s visible anywhere on my academic record. I did self-report it on my AMCAS application though, and 3 schools asked about it during my interview (ironically was accepted into all 3)
Sounds like you shot yourself in the foot before even checking for sure if it went on your record? If it's a warning then I doubt it. Looks like it didn't matter in the end with those results
Honestly the peace of mind after putting everything on the table was worth it for me, regardless of whether or not it was actually on my academic record. If I hadn’t disclosed it, I think I would have spent the entire app cycle stressed that one of the schools would eventually find out.
People should really REALLY perform some introspection before posting stuff like this, titled like this, to a subreddit filled with anxious individuals who’d sell their souls for an acceptance
question about your clinical hours! you say it was during a gap year, was that the gap year you took after applying or the gap year you took during your app cycle?
Keck is very much a work hard play hard school in my experience. Very research heavy but also wants its applicants to actually have a life and interests outside of school
Idk why everyone is so mad at you 🤣🤣 IA and no shadowing hours are huge, I'm shocked you got lls at the T5s and the other acceptances (obviously well deserved but yk how the system is). Ppl could have a nobel prize but if they ain't got shadowing they can't get in lol. Which makes me so mad at you OP!!! 😭 Even 10 is better than nothing
I don’t understand UCLA. Do they not care about academic merit? I have seen even ORMs with a 505 get interviews there. How tf do they not give you a secondary?
They might have a zero tolerance policy for IAs. They also really do love X factor and lots of service. Could be the 505 ORMs had standout areas of their app in other ways.
so are shadowing hours not super important, or do your stats make up for it? I've seen multiple people have good results applying with 0-to very little shadowing hours. my advisor said I need like a 100.
Depends what the IA is as well. Not all IAs are equal. E.g. a COVID violation is not a true IA in the eyes of like >50% of institutions since hindsight it was a mess. Same for certain plagiarism IAs if there is a degree of uncertainty in the ruling issued by admin.
No matter- OP is going to a fine medical school. A good lesson for those applying.
Summary have a 4.0 and 524 MCAT. Sorry OP, I couldn’t resist. But a sincerest. Congratulations on a great cycle!
And 4k research hours + pubs too
nah its the research i should know
You forgot the shitpost flair
Lmao
not having clinical hours EXCEPT FROM THE FULL TIME JOB that I expect equates to about 2500 is literally HAVING clincial hours dude
Isnt he just saying that he didn't gain a lot of clinical experience during his undergraduate years and most of it was in his gap year
yeah but its kind of a non issue with an app like this. I think there is a small minority of people who gain a significant amount of clinical experience during school, most take a gap year. Idk it just came across as if he was trying to diminish the reality of his more than significant clinical experience
nah that's valid you're completely right, 1000 hours isn't easy to rack up at all😂
Isn’t that the entire point of a gap year 😭
Not really lol, completed is way different. They seem 1 gap year, so I think it’s a valid concern thar not much is completed.
If homie didn’t get the IA, they wouldn’t have had the drive to get the 4.0/524. Lessons learned: Get an IA as soon as you can and turn into academic venom.
Fuck I only have 2 semesters left! Am I cooked?
Absolutely, better start doing some hard drugs and then go chat up the cops looking for drunk people on campus😂
my true strategy has been revealed 😤
This would be peak neuroticism in the premed world. "Guys I didn't get caught cheating and selling exams, do I still have a shot at a 528 MCAT and 5.0 GPA?
Dawg a 3.95 and the 524 will make anyone overlook anything minus a couple felonies. Overall tho, gg mate and congrats
No UCs though…
Not 0 shadowing
Change the title fr, this is misleading. Also, the A2C to pre-med pipeline is strong
this does not have the effect u think it does bro 😭 makes us feel even worse
ah I’m sorry 😭 I’m scarred from my advisor sophomore year who told me to not even bother applying
We gotta do something about these pre med advisors every time someone mentions them they are giving the most dog doodoo advice
the crackhead living at the end of my block can give better advice than these premed advisors
What was the institutional action?
Watch it be "I had a toaster in my dorm room". I'm assuming the vagueness is in the service of clickbait until proven otherwise.
Shit, this counts as an IA?
Any action that makes it to the Dean of Students will typically end up being an IA. IAs fall into three main categories: 1) Academic Honesty related IAs: Very serious unless it was something minor like forgetting put quotes around something you cited. (Still need to own up to those as well.) 2) Drugs and alcohol related IAs due to students getting caught with contraband on campus: Somewhat serious but adcoms were young and dumb once as well, so as long as it’s not a pattern and you own up to it. 3) Dorm policy related IAs: Incredibly minor and only serious if you don’t report it. Some schools escalate these things very quickly but no one’s getting rejected from medical school because they got a noise complaint once or had candles in their dorm room.
Academic honesty violation. Feel free to PM me for details but long story short, my professor ended up dropping the case so I got off with a warning.
So are you even sure it went on your record..? Or do your transcripts denote it? Did schools end up asking about it?
To this day I’m not 100% sure it’s visible anywhere on my academic record. I did self-report it on my AMCAS application though, and 3 schools asked about it during my interview (ironically was accepted into all 3)
Well I commend your integrity then
You should have just asked your dean if it was
Sounds like you shot yourself in the foot before even checking for sure if it went on your record? If it's a warning then I doubt it. Looks like it didn't matter in the end with those results
Honestly the peace of mind after putting everything on the table was worth it for me, regardless of whether or not it was actually on my academic record. If I hadn’t disclosed it, I think I would have spent the entire app cycle stressed that one of the schools would eventually find out.
I mean if they report it schools know who cares if it went on their record.
People should really REALLY perform some introspection before posting stuff like this, titled like this, to a subreddit filled with anxious individuals who’d sell their souls for an acceptance
question about your clinical hours! you say it was during a gap year, was that the gap year you took after applying or the gap year you took during your app cycle?
During my app cycle!
thank you for replying!! so were those projected hours then on your primary app?
Congratulations but respectfully, 🖕🏽 (I kid)
I appreciate your honesty, and I would do the same 😆
Congrats future physician!!
Is this satire
You don't just have that dog in you. You're a bunch of vicious dogs stacked up in a trench coat. Congrats friend
As someone who wants to apply to Keck what are some things you noticed that they liked from their applicants. Also Massive congratulations!!
Keck is very much a work hard play hard school in my experience. Very research heavy but also wants its applicants to actually have a life and interests outside of school
Idk why everyone is so mad at you 🤣🤣 IA and no shadowing hours are huge, I'm shocked you got lls at the T5s and the other acceptances (obviously well deserved but yk how the system is). Ppl could have a nobel prize but if they ain't got shadowing they can't get in lol. Which makes me so mad at you OP!!! 😭 Even 10 is better than nothing
When was your USC interview? Congrats!!’
It was one of my first interviews, around September!
Congrats future physician 🥳🎉
lol...
Title is misleading as hell but congratulations none the less
I don’t understand UCLA. Do they not care about academic merit? I have seen even ORMs with a 505 get interviews there. How tf do they not give you a secondary?
The probably screened out based on the IA
They might have a zero tolerance policy for IAs. They also really do love X factor and lots of service. Could be the 505 ORMs had standout areas of their app in other ways.
Most UCs have a hard IA screen 🥲 got my secondaries very late from most of them and didn’t get any IIs from any of them
so are shadowing hours not super important, or do your stats make up for it? I've seen multiple people have good results applying with 0-to very little shadowing hours. my advisor said I need like a 100.
Depends what the IA is as well. Not all IAs are equal. E.g. a COVID violation is not a true IA in the eyes of like >50% of institutions since hindsight it was a mess. Same for certain plagiarism IAs if there is a degree of uncertainty in the ruling issued by admin. No matter- OP is going to a fine medical school. A good lesson for those applying.
What’s the iA if I might ask!
Academic honesty violation during COVID. Feel free to PM me for details
Aka: the tamest one you can get… kinda misleading🤷♂️
No it's the worst lmao?
Huge congrats!! This makes me feel both a bit better and worse lmao
When did u submit
Congratulations 🎊🎉🎈
How are any of these red flags?
Congrats! Amazing stats!! Seriously whats wrong with UCLA?!
My red flags were lots of withdrawals.
bruh just your secondary list alone is insane 😭
is it a red flag to only have clinical hours during your gap year?
When did you get off the Duke waitlist?
This scares me
IA in freshmen year does not count as a “red flag” lmao
Yes it does. It is the biggest red flag an app can have aside from criminal action
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spoiler: its gonna be the research and 1st author pub
And 524, 3.95 lol
yeah but i promise thats not only it because i had a 526