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jonnyredshorts

HTTT is my favorite RH album. I don’t care if the entire band calls it bloated or whatever, it is an absolute banger of an album that for me totally encompasses the range and vibe of the band.


cedellic

I don’t even understand the idea that it’s bloated. The songs Yorke would have left off are fucking great. Backdrifts - banger. We Suck Young Blood - creepy-ass slow burn with an epic, bonkers midpoint breakdown. A Punch Up At a Wedding - banger. I Will - are you kidding me? I get that he wanted it to be more concise but just as longer ≠ better, neither does shorter.


lord_nebbing

Very true, I think they can be guilty of holding songs back too, as with true love waits, the live version is incredible but a way overproduced and lost version of it ends up on moon shaped pool. Httf looses its essence if any of the songs get cut


Pavlogal

Disagree on TLW, the studio version is beautiful. I kinda see them as 2 sides of the same coin


jonnyredshorts

I love it just as is. I wish they had held back I Might Be Wrong for HTTT instead of Amnesiac, because I feel like it totally fits the vibe of HTTT perfectly, but that’s just me.


wundercat

I would be perfectly happy if Suck, Punchup and Myxomatosis were left for a deluxe version. Myxomatosis is actually one of their best live songs, but FOR ME the other three are kinda take/leave. I Will is one of their best songs, bar none.


italox

They always spent too much time figuring out running orders, especially Kid A and Amnesiac. Perhaps they felt like "doing the opposite of whatever we did for the last one" as they have also said. On hindsight, I get how it may feel like too much and the best result out of the experience was splitting In Rainbows in two. DITNU was a recurring theme on Dead Air Space and the LP7 run-up, and I know Jonny really wanted Go Slowly in the album but it's otherwise perfect as it is. What HTTT has to show for is that it has some of their most iconic tracks ever. It clocks in at just 3 minutes more than OK Computer with two additional tracks, but I prefer my Radiohead albums below 50 minutes overall.


Stockpile_Tom_Remake

Also for a band that absolutely nails album openers, 2+2=5 might be my absolute favorite opener.


jonnyredshorts

I agree, it’s also my absolute favorite RH song.


lord_nebbing

Usually bands don’t like their best work, and I agree it sums them up perfectly to me, a wide range of brilliant musicians creating both great sounding music with meaning


josiehaslostit

Thank god I’m not the only one I thought I was going crazy lmao


jonnyredshorts

Always a pleasure to meet another person that feels this way about HTTT


Consistent-Salt1546

Hail to the thief is and has always been my favoriet


cwyog

I wasn’t aware that it was held in lower esteem. My opinion is that OKC-In Rainbows was other-worldly stuff. They don’t have a bad release but 1998-2008 was transcendent.


wundercat

It's great, was the first RH album I fell in love with. I will say, for me, there's about two or three too many songs on there. When people say it's a bit bloated...well...it is.


Crazyplan9

The consensus from the band (and fans) seems to be that the album was too rushed and too bloated. The band recorded it very quickly, Ed himself said that they “didn’t spend enough time editing” it in a 2009 interview ( Thom was there too)…he went on to say it could’ve been a great record if they spent more time on it….less songs, more editing, more magic. That’s what they did with in rainbows, which is just about as perfect as a record can get. HTTT is a good record though. And no one can deny that there there is one of radioheads greatest achievements.


u_alright_m8

It’s almost like they just straight up released the deluxe version first, which from a roll out/release point of view is maybe unideal, but means the fans get to just have at the smorgasbord of tunes.


Crazyplan9

The Red Hot Chili Peppers method


Consistent-Salt1546

In Rainbows isn’t perfect by a long shot, the issue with IR is videotape, which is just bad


FUUUUUUU

I'm sorry what. Videotape bad??


Crazyplan9

Also, IR is my fave Radiohead album, it’s NEARLY perfect! You are objectively wrong my friend ;)


Crazyplan9

After experiencing the 2006 live version of videotape, a lot of people were disappointed by the album version….me included, BUT it grew on me. Eventually I realized the live version would’ve been far too grandiose, at least to conclude the album. I think final version of gorgeous and subdued in the best way. [This video might help you appreciate videotape a bit more](https://youtu.be/p_IHotHxIl8?si=PiQKUthRBg8hwn-t)


dabidu86

It’s my favorite one. And the people talking about this or any Radiohead album, or even albums in general, being “bloated” are plain disrespectful and have too strong an opinion about the length of an album, acting as if they are looking for some perfect, streamlined specimen to bow to.


minitrr

HTTT was what got me into Radiohead when I was in high school in 2003. It has some of my all time favorite songs on it (There There, 2+2=5, Wolf). I’ve always said people sleep on that album way too much. Also never understood the hate for We Suck Young Blood. I loved that song mostly because it made my parents ask me “what the fuck are you listening to?” When I would be playing it in my room when I was 14.


Prometheus850

It’s just really long, which makes the experimental bits define the record. 2+2=5 is beloved by most fans Sit Down Stand Up is Sit Down Stand Up Sail to the Moon has some haters  I’m not a fan of Backdrifts, the synth is too repetitive  Go to Sleep doesn’t really have a hook or catchy bit, so it doesn’t fit well with the rest of their rock Where I End is another classic of their discography, though I prefer the basement version Young Blood is thought of as boring or weird The Gloaming isn’t great in the studio version, but they nailed it in the basement  There There is a beloved classic I Will is their shortest song, it doesn’t do much but I love it Punchup is a solid track but has plenty of haters Myxomatosis knocks my socks off Scatterbrain is one of my least favorites, it’s just musically flat with sharp vocals In a band known for closing tracks, Wolf at the Door is the best for a lot of people All in all, there are plenty of great songs, plenty that were improved after the album, and plenty that divide the fan base. Still an incredible album.


shoobsworth

There’s a strong herd mentality here. If you repeat a narrative enough times, people will start to parrot it. In the case of this album, the narrative is: “It’s bloated” “It’s too long” Funny thing is, A Light For Attracting Attention has only one less song than this album and no one complained about its length. I don’t think Hail to the Thief is bloated, like any album is there a track I would cut? Sure. I’d cut We Suck Young Blood. Just like I’d cut Electioneering from OKC or Jigsaw from In Rainbows. Hail to the Thief receives a lot of negativity because some of the band wish they could go back and trim it and because everyone keeps repeating the aforementioned narrative. It’s my favorite album as it encapsulates EVERYTHING that makes this band special. The styles within the album are disparate in a good way. It captured the band doing exactly what they intended, which was record an album very quickly and spontaneously and it has that live high energy feel. The Gloaming is the only track that sounded like it needed more but really that’s because of how much they added to the live version. Oddly enough, it’s the only album since 2000 that has no orchestral arrangements. I don’t think that’s a flaw though. Anyway, the quality is there and I’d take this album over their last 3 albums.


dlopez_

>I'd cut jigsaw from In Rainbows W H A T


lambsambwich

Same w/ *we suck young blood* off hail to the thief. To each their own I guess.


shoobsworth

Without a doubt, the most overrated song on this sub. I do not understand the worship for it. I think it is easily the weakest track on the album. Maybe zoomers like it because it’s about going to a bar and getting trashed and getting laid


reel8boy

Dude, I respect the opinion but had to downvote for saying its appealing to zoomers because it’s about getting trashed and getting laid. No Radiohead song boils down to that, cmon. Jigsaw is a fan favorite because it’s just so damn concise and energetic with killer riffs and melodies, and maybe the best payoff of any song on the album. That final verse man, gives me chills.


shoobsworth

It’s so drab. It was better when it was on electric guitars. Even the band don’t care for it, they never play it live. And it is absolutely about going to bars in Oxford and that whole scene, Thom discussed it. It’s a novel b-side.


reel8boy

Fair enough. Even if it is “about” that on its face I come away with a lot more. I also have an unpopular take about this album. 15-Step is my least favorite. *runs and hides*


_Rayxz

House of Cards is weaker imo, drags on for too long.


shoobsworth

Perhaps


lord_nebbing

That’s interesting, I’m surprised people at large find it bloated, although for me jigsaw is an important part of in rainbows, but I agree that electioneering could be cut. Ultimately we aren’t the musicians who were there recording at the time and won’t truly know the actual meaning behind including or excluding songs


AffectionateTiger436

Eh. Subjective, no explanation that we can concretely say. Imo, it just doesn't hit the same way.


twistingmemelonman

My favourite album because it has the most Radiohead feel to it, if you know what I mean. There's a mix of everything in there. I'm not saying I think it's their best, but it's my favourite. I'd cut Punchup but apart from that, it's practically flawless and has some of their best material and artwork.


MyCleverNewName

It's all good


mercerclone

HTTT has my favourite opening 3 songs of a RH album. 2+2, Sit Down, and Sail to the Moon are an unbeaten and legendary run of three.


Spider-monkey-4135

This album was recorded very quickly in LA. The band decided, deliberately, to track as soon as possible. They did, but the mixing did not go so well. For this reason they have not regarded HTTT so well. That seems to have trickled down to the masses


daraghlol

Great album but I think the track listing ruins the flow.


o0Loiter0o

It's my favorite, tied with Kid A. But I'm in the minority on not really liking In Rainbows.


reel8boy

In a vacuum of time and space, everything from OKC to In Rainbows could be dubbed Radiohead’s best album. I’ve always felt the strongest about Kid A, but I’ve had every other album second at some point. There are little “flaws” in all of them arguably, but each of them is so pointed and the ideas are so sharp. HTTT is no exception. Even with a little bloat it’s fantastic.


WienerWraps

Raindropsssssssssss


TheOnionSack

The previous year, the band road-tested the new material during some one-off gigs in Spain and Portugal. If I remember corrrectly, the new songs that would eventually end up on HTTT were all very well received by fans. Perhaps if the band hadn't done this, then they have been a little more frugal with the final track-listing. You could also make the same argument that Ok Computer would have been viewed very differently if it had included I Promise, Lift, and Man of War. All still amazing songs but it would have also left the album a little 'bloated'.


Gumbyonbathsalts

Because IR, TB and OKC are much more consistent albums. Amnesiac and HTTT both have really high highs and some incredible tracks but also have some really low lows.


Red_Asari

Too long and bloated. And just like amnesiac, a lot of the songs don't really compliment eachother to form a complete album experience imo. Though it is still good and has some of my very favorite radiohead songs on it


Myxomytoesies

Ahh, Hail to the Thief. A group of chronic overthinkers and endless 2nd guessers, finally deciding to shoot from the hip again. For the first time since… Pablo Honey, I guess. One song a day, two weeks… that was 99% of the recording process. The best elements of Kid A, OK Computer, and The Bends, all woven into a diverse, raw, spontaneous and demanding fabric of deliciousness. Far from their most impactful album, but dang, is it their best. At least in my opinion.