Trouba the person seems to be a stand up guy and a good dude. Trouba the hockey player is overpaid for his current level of play.
This is a business decision, not a personal decision. The team and the front office really like him (and so do I). But he makes too much money and his contract allows him to be traded.
The reason his contract switched over to a MNTC at this point is for this exact reason. It’s a way out for the team if his cap hit becomes too high for his on ice value as he ages.
It’s the same reason Kreider is able to be traded now. The difference is Kreider got better as he got older and Trouba didn’t. The Kreider contract looks like a steal now.
> This is a business decision, not a personal decision.
Entirely true from the org's standpoint, but the vitriol toward him in this sub over the last month has reflected a lot of personal animosity rather than just keen business sense (which makes some sense...it sucks to see your team lose in the CF, and between his contract and visibly poor play in the postseason, Trouba makes the perfect scapegoat).
Yeah not to mention he played injured the entire last portion of the seasons. One of main reasons i dont watch any pro sports other than the NHL is because so many of the fans are insufferable bitches. I always thought NHL fans were different but that isnt true any longer.
The personal attacks on players and the obvious lack of basic knowledge of the game and how it is played from some Rangers fans is fucking brutal. It has only gotten worse since they got eliminated. Final four and lost to the Stanley Cup Champion playing 3 OT games and some Rangers fans cant stop bitching and moaning. Its fucking pathetic.
I can’t speak for anyone else in the sub. I’ve been very critical of Trouba since about round 2 of the playoffs, but it’s never been personal. He seems like a good guy who cares about people, who contributes a lot to his franchise, fans, and community when off the ice. Unfortunately, he doesn’t have very strong hockey IQ and he’s become a liability on the ice, especially in high pressure situations. Moving on from him isn’t a personal choice, it’s a business decision, based entirely on his performance and not on his personality.
Agreed, I am very sad because I actually think hes a good captain and an gives a ton back off the ice to charity, but alas this is the business, and I am glad we are not doing it like 2010’s where we hang on to players too long hoping that things will change, and regret it when they do not. Hard choices have to be made to win it all, and I believe in Drury as a gm.
as someone who knows nothing about baseball i know for a fact that i've seen people wear Tanaka and Judge jerseys with the name on the back. is that just for fan jerseys? are they unofficial jerseys?
Many teams that don’t have names on the backs of their jerseys still sell jerseys that include a last name. They’re usually much cheaper, and some people don’t mind the name on the back. Although there are many who don’t like them
In rugby for years it was customary not to have names on jerseys.
For two reasons 1) In rugby the number denotes playing position and 2) because no one has 'claim' to the jersey.
I think it's a nice touch for the teams but makes you lose connection to the player. For example, there will never be a 99 like Wayne, a 10 like Messi or a 23 like Jordan.
But at the same time it keeps people (and more importantly the players) focused on the team.
He's a good dude. I'm sure he'll be a fan favorite wherever he goes. He'll make some big plays and be a good teammate.
Personally I'm over it. Any regrets I have about Trouba as a person or a player are vastly overshadowed by the wasted opportunity of another year down the drain, due significantly to his inability to play his position. Especially when you factor in his cap hit. His presence on this team is a massive anchor if we want any real playoff success.
The human side of this situation sucks, but the needs of the team come first. I'm sure he'll understand.
He almost single-handedly cost us the ECF. Out of position going for hits instead of playing the puck. I know Mika’s turnover was why we lost. But Trouba broke the PK structure by going for a hit leading to a wide open guy infront of the net in OT.
He’s a good person. A foundation i really feel is a pretty forgotten disability. But he was not just bad but a brutal liability
As stated here, he seems like a really good guy and a standup teammate. He is (or perhaps soon to be was) the captain of the team for a reason, and seems like an extremely caring and giving and genuine person.
Hockey wise, no, not really saddened by it. We shipped McDonagh off to Tampa and he’s an incredible defensive defenseman. Trouba makes a lot of bonehead decisions that you could theoretically live with if he was making less money, but the unfortunate part of sports is; he’s making way too much and making terrible decisions at times when scrutiny is magnified.
Wish him the best regardless.
Mcdonaugh was a dick to us in the 22 ecf.
But yeah his offense and defense were better. Tampas defense fell off a cliff when he left.
The 12-15 rangers overall had a lot of great defensive d men.
Honestly yeah. People have short memories in sports. Obv he kinda fucked us in the playoffs but he was a pretty pivotal player in the regular season. Not saying he was great but he was all in as a player at some key times, whether it was just a ballsy defensive play or a signature hit. Also, does anyone here remember the helmet throw? Shit like that matters.
His contract is completely indefensible so no regrets, but lets have some respect for our fucking captain!
Yup. I'm actually very frustrated by this. I get the arguments about cap space. But The dude is a force. I feel like this sub has gone way overboard on the Trouba hate. The same way I felt about Goodrow as well. I think that Trouba still has a few solid year in the tank. And I feel like we will end up paying him 2.5 mil per year to crush us on the ice. The first time he lifts Artemi off his skates, the fans here are going to turn on him the same way the rest of NHL Reddit has.
I know he isn't the best player in the NHL and his contract is overly generous but he's a fierce player and puts out strong energy on the ice. He hits like a freight train, has the ability to fire the boys up (the helmet throw is a great example), and when he's on the ice the other team knows to keep their damn head up. I think the hate on here is incredibly overblown. We need more tough players like trouba. We just need them cheaper. Also, he's a real good dude off the ice. I wish we could keep him for half the price.
Hopefully this results in some more “team-friendly” contracts when players are signed across the league. If it’s only about the money for a player it won’t change, but if a player really loves the team he already plays for or is considering signing with and absolutely doesn’t want to be moved he’d better consider taking a little less to ensure he won’t be moved somewhere down the line.
Was he really a pivotal player in the regular season? His advanced metrics were horrific. The eye test for him was also bad. I thought the defense immediately got better when he got hurt and Jones went in. His relative corsi was -13.6%. I get that he was a good teammate and leader, but let’s be real, the guy was an awful defenseman and his departure is addition by subtraction.
yeah we've already started with the rose tinted revisionism and he's not even gone yet. At least people waited to lie about Girardi and Staal until they were well off the team.
He was far from our worse defenseman in the playoffs. This narrative needs to go to bed. Miller and Lindgren were worse. Schneider wasn’t great either. Trouba had some very bad sequences but those were washed out by some very good play at other times. Miller Lindgren and Schneider were bad with no upside and that hurt us more than Troubas few bad plays over the 3 series we played.
But agreed, he’s got to go because the cap flexibility is more valuable than he is. We will definitely miss him come playoffs next year though if he does get shipped out
I like Trouba alot as a person and a player so it sucks that he has a poison contract. I think the team benefits from his toughness and leadership, etc.
But I was thinking that him playing through it in the playoffs was a mistake. It's incredible feat toughing it out playing through a broken ankle or whatever but why did we have to do that when we were scratching viable defenders? Go day to day and call up Jones for a game, don't flail on the biggest stage because you're hurt.
Between him and even Fox it was tough to watch them play in such a diminished way
I have to imagine NHL video scouts know exactly what to look for. Would bet hard cash there were film room studies, coaching forwards to 'go around Trouba on the right side' based on an inability to put full weight back on his left ankle, or whatever.
This is thing that these older coaches do that irritate me. They will never adjust to injuries or "veteran" presence despite when the writing is on the wall. Shame.
Probably universal agreement that he should go - but that's not what you're asking.
I appreciated the fact that he would throw the big check that really pissed off the entire fuckin' league. For years, the Rangers were the pissed off team, or what felt to me like the pissed on team. I hated having a soft, puss team and it all culminated in "The Wilson Incident" that reworked the entire organization.
Trouba brought it, I liked that. Yeah, sad to see him go.
If we didn't have Rempe and Edstrom and Roobreck coming up I'd be worried about losing Trouba for this reason, specially since the whole Metro has decided it seems to either rent/buy or draft their Counter Rempe bigs lol
He came over and brought a toughness and physicality we had needed forever. If his contract wasn't as big as it it, we probably aren't thinking of moving him, but that contract has become a problem relative to his performance
As a player, no. As a human being, yeah a little. While I don't think Trouba and his wife would mind going home, they both really committed to being active in the community and becoming New Yorkers. Off the ice, Trouba (and his wife Kelly) are great members of the Rangers family. On the ice, he kinda has to go if we're gonna have a real chance to build a Cup-winning team.
I'm sure if he was making 2-3mil and stapled to the 3D it wouldn't have been an issue. However even during the season he was hurting the team (they played better when he was out of the lineup, Key played substantially better when he was off that pairing for example). Sure he's a great guy, but if you're not helping the team win, and in some cases, actively helping them lose games....it's time to go.
I respect him as a person and the way he plays so much. I hope he stays but I understand if he doesn’t.
I will be sad to see him go, if he does, but I love the way he represented the rangers and I think he is a great, caring human being
100 % agree. I wanted him as captain and I will be sad to see him ago. I understand his contract is bad (a long standing Ranger tradition) and he has to be moved. Hopefully we don’t miss having a hammer.
I’m annoyed at the rangers. They keep moving captains like it’s nothing. It’s no wonder we haven’t won a cup. You keep changing leadership over and over and over.
Trouba should take as long as he needs. The Rangers fucked themselves with a lot of contracts so it’s their problem to deal with. There is a countless list. He’s got great leverage on them. Take all the time you need to fuck with front office. If he wants to stay I’ll support him either way. We all need to stop speculating what stupid Friedman is saying.
His contract sucks. But as a player I love him. If he was getting paid closer to his on-ice value we'd love to still have him. Same with Goodrow.
Absolutely agree with the sentiment of this post though. Trouba has been a true Ranger and a great captain in his time here.
I feel like there's a big disconnect between fans that are fans of the players as people and fans that are mini-GMs/coaches. Trouba is the captain for a reason, and Messier gave him that dumb award for a reason. He's clearly a positive locker-room presence, and as a fan I think he's easy to root for. My dad knows almost nothing about hockey and he was so impressed by his leadership and him playing through a broken ankle.
Hopefully Trouba lands on a good team and can just give his vet presence from a 2nd or 3rd line somewhere. I'll remember his time here fondly.
I mean... No. He makes $8 million a year. I'm not getting weepy over anyone like that.
Seems he's a great guy who teammates love and respect. But his on-ice performance is nowhere near good enough for the money, and I'm by far most concerned with the on-ice product, and the diagonal letters across the chest, not the ones on the back.
Not really. If he didnt have that horrible contract, he'd probably would stay. His hits are clean, and sometimes wakes the team up. But, at the end of the day, it's a business. But the more important thing is, assuming he's traded, who's the replacement the Rangers would look into getting? that's the real question
I’m a Trouba fan. He brings a lot to the table that we don’t have enough of on the Rangers team. This year was a rough one, no doubt. I believe he will have some level of bounce back season next year.
All that said, he simply is severely over paid for his role and his production and the smart business decision is to move him.
Only game at MSG I've ever been to was the helmet throw game. He was basically the only player on the ice I liked that night. And, while ultimately it may not have amounted to much, it was the turning point which sparked last season's rally. I'll always appreciate that.
Trouba's had good times and bad times here. Overall, I aint mad at him. Time's up though.
He's a good dude with a win mentality. People saying he shouldn't be the captain need to understand that the staff voted it with heavy consideration from the players. We are not in the locker room but with the team 24/7. His teammates and coaches like him and appreciate his work. He's had his moments where he's lived up to his patch, one of the biggest being his hit and fight against the Hawks and snapping at the team for the lack of effort and how poor the team was playing at the time. Or his massive hit against Timo in the postseason when they were down 2-0 in game seven.
His play has been poor, and I've criticized him like everyone else. But mentally, he wants to win, and he wants to stay.
He rejected* going to his hometown and playing with one of his favorite teammates to stay in NY. (These are speculations, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were true.)
Unfortunately, this is business at the end of the day, and the window is shrinking with each playoff exit. Eight million for a 3rd pairing defenseman isn't going to cut it.
If he leaves, good luck to him. If he stays, I pray for a massive uptrend next year. Hopefully, this drama will serve as motivation.
I always feel players who have high salaries will always be held to higher standards. Once they don’t perform as expected they are almost always dealt. Trouba probably understands, he’s probably won’t be comfortable with it but he should understand
Honestly no he wasn’t a long time ranger player . He was some one that came didn’t live up to his potential and time to move along … thank you for your time best of luck
Guy seems like a great dude and is a good player but the reality of the post-covid cap means we have to make hard decisions if we want to win. I wish there was some kind of option we could give him to restructure his contract because he seems like the kind of guy who might take a cut to stay here but that's not the case.
I'm with you, Trouba is a heart and soul guy that you love in the locker room, but it's time to move on.
He's kinda like the beer league guy playing a division or two too high, but is a cool dude, hangs out after the game, so he sticks around even though in the ice he's hurting you.
So yeah, we need to move on, but we can also appreciate that he seems like a stand up guy and cares more about the team than himself.
A little. I like Trouba as a player, just not for 8M/year. If the NHL allowed something like all the European soccer leagues do where a team can take on a portion of a contract in exchange for assets, and the Rangers were willing to give up a pick/prospect for a rebuilder to absorb about half of Trouba’s cap hit, that would be my ideal outcome.
Yes. I enjoy watching him. I think his game is essential for rangers regular season. You need tough guys. A healthy trouba can still compete in playoffs in my opinion, but will he be healthy? Like others have said, it’s just his percentage of cap hit. I understand that, but I’ll be sad to see him go nonetheless.
Always said this and will continue to. He’s a class act. Wants nothing but the best for his teammates and fans. But that cap hit is what pushes him out the door. 3rd pair liability at 8m is criminal. If he was 2-4 i’d be perfectly fine with him as a player. But 8 mil cripples this team in getting better. Hope he comes to realize that he should just move on and accept the trade to a team was wants him now.
I'm pretty sure he was playing through an injury for a lot of the playoffs, but he unfortunately just didn't have a good run and is taking the brunt of the blame for our going out. I think once everyone has fully cooled down from our exit people will realize how much we do love him being on the Rangers.
The business decision of it is what it is, I just hope Ranger fans can look at him potentially being traded as a necessary dissappointment rather than a "don't let the door hit ya"
I will always love Troubs!
I like Trouba! I think for what it’s worth he’s a solid defensemen, and he only did bad in the playoffs because he was injured. He still helped bring us to the presidents trophy, so I can’t understand why so many people want him sent to the moon
No. We never should have acquired him. Spending Pionk and a 1st to get a player who was older than Pionk, less offensively minded than Pionk, and now as we've seen less durable than Pionk was a mind numbingly stupid mistake.
Paying this guy $8M over 7 years was the real crime. Pionks extension was $5.875M...
We got bent over 5 barrels and fucked twice on each one, all on the backs of "trouba will being 50 points a year to the back end". We bought high on a bad stock and then paid the price for it not even 2 years after the free agency signing.
I’ll always remember him as the one stabbing at Mcdavid as he skates through 4 rangers to score and tie the game in Edmonton. [See it here](https://youtu.be/laNRPAjKQsM?si=WsPjjkYdCYtQVfKy). The line where great offense begins and bad defense ends is sometimes hard to figure out.
He made too many boneheaded plays, but other than that, his physicality is going to be greatly missed. If there was one thing that we know we need, it’s to be more physical and it feels like getting rid of your most physical player is the opposite of what we should be doing.
nope not sad at all, ship him, I have very little attachment to players anymore, it's all about the team. I don't even really dislike the guy or anything but you have to be good with decisions like this.
100% There’s only a handful of players I truly “get attached”to and that heavily depends on if they won a cup with the Rangers. Lundqvist being the one guy who didn’t who I’ll love forever. Even guys like Zucc who was beloved when he was here is just another good former Ranger to me. Guys like Leetch, Mess, Richter, Graves, Hank. Those guys are immortal imo. Long story short, it’s time to win a damn cup.
He hasn't been close to the player that Gorton thought he was signing. He also was a big part of the Rangers not getting to the cup final in 22 and 24. Sorry, but good riddance.
I'm not sad at all. When you're a fan of sports as long as I have. I'm in my 60s. I've been a Rangers fan for over 50 years. I've learned it part of sports and life in general.
Why doesn’t anyone acknowledge the non sabermetric advantage of simply making the opposing forwards keep their heads up? I love Trouba, he’s a warrior and a leader. Fuck the cap, keep the captain!
100%. Think of 2 years ago against Chicago when he threw his helmet. He led that team. He was hurt in the playoffs, not an excuse, but kind of is. He's a competitor, he wanted to play. Did it hurt us? Yes and no. Was Zach Jones the answer? No one can really say. If he wasn't an 8 million dollar cap hit, everyone would hate him less. His contract isn't his fault. If he goes, I get it, I've enjoy him as a Ranger.
How do we know the players love his leadership? Kreider when turning down the C said it was obvious Trouba wanted it more. We fall in line with the media pushing how he is great in the room when actually nobody knows what the players really truly feel. The best leadership is role-model leadership and when you play hurt and stink up the ice, all else doesn’t really matter. Hope they can move on and I was a big proponent of getting him from way back as a partner for McD, who was then Moved to make room for Trouba type contract; they moved too late to eventually land him and then his drop off in play has been an anvil around the team’s neck. The irony is he was supposed to be an offensive weapon. Jeez.
Mostly from the local writers who constantly talk about how well liked he is in the locker room and as captain.
And before you ask me for the source I am not going to dig through all these podcasts I listen to. It would take an entire weekend.
Local writers like Vince who never played or covered hockey prior to given the beat as a cheap replacement to Carp and then had no access to players during 3 seasons of Covid. Try to find a comment from a player in the league who spoke poorly about a current captain…
Obviously being a NYR captain has little merit as the last 2 prior have been traded and the latest is supposedly on the block.
He’s a good guy and a great locker room presence it seems but I’m incredibly happy that we were able to get off him and goodrow, it stings but those contracts have been hamstringing us since 2021 and we can finally afford actual quality players for the top/ middle six now hopefully
I like Trouba a lot, however his cap hit at 8mil is not equal to his hockey output. that being said he brought much needed physicality whether that be his big hits or fighting when necessary which allowed the rest of the team to play their own way and grow, I think people have short-term/selective memory (not defending awful playoff play)
Trouba seems like a good dude but other than leadership he isn’t good and has one of the worse contracts in the league . His leadership and physicality can easily be replaced, especially with Rempe getting NHL experience. I think Braden Schneider will be a better version of Trouba. If Trouba made like 2 million he’d be less of a liability but for 8 million a year you should be at least a Sergechev level player
I’m not worried about Trouba. He’s been more than adequately compensated. I care about the Rangers. Trouba is a liability. He didn’t just have a bad year - he was costly in the playoffs. He was not good. I don’t know how good a captain he is because a lot of that stuff is done behind closed doors. And maybe some of his bad decisions had to do with his injuries. But for the money he’s getting paid he is a terrible contract. I like toughness but only when there is purpose. He’s committed a lot of stupid penalties which cost us dearly and left us shaking our heads. He’s a net negative. Get rid of him
Yeah trouba was the player that really got me into hockey watching his hits the past 3 season really got me invested and knowing that he may no longer be a ranger is pretty disheartening.
I try not to get overly attached to players anymore.if you’re on the team and helping, great! I’ll root for your success and sing your praises. No longer useful to the team? Byeeeeee!
I can’t help but root for the players as well as the team. I think it makes it more fun and meaningful. But I understand Drury can’t do that, he has to look at it as a business.
I was at game 4 against the Panthers when he lost us that game, and maybe the series…He’s a great person, no doubt and would be missed in the locker room. But he shouldn’t have been playing.
I love Trouba, I think he's a solid player. But, I think his time here has run his course. When Trouba is ON, the dude is a menace and a game changer. He ignites the crowd and invigorates his team mates, while giving pause to his opponents. He was a Monster and more than once caused me to audibly cheer at home by myself after depleting some schmuck with his head down. But, this last year, almost no hits like that all year, to go with declining defensive play and almost nonexistent offensive contribution. So eventually by the end all he did was take unnecessary penalties and be on the ice puck watching as yet another goal went it.
So yeah, when he gets 250 characters of hate it kinda sucks and feels unfair. But, his time has come and gone. Someone else needs the C and Trouba needs to be out of the Metro. Talk of him moving to Detroit isn't far enough away, we need to send him to like San Jose like Goodrow. Because the dude will absolutely light up Panarin or Fox the first chance he gets in someone else's jersey, so we need to limit interaction.
No it was looking like it was a done deal yesterday per Elliot Freidman but then last night he backtracked and now it appears to be a huge mess… so we’ll see.
Moving him doesn’t even mean they don’t like the guy. It’s his contract. It’s going to handicap them in the near future. If they could keep him at 4-5 mill then they probably would, but it’s just too much. They have to sign Shesterkin, Laffy, and more.
He's a likeable player at 4-5 million. He was crushed by the weight of his contract. His physicality will be difficult to replace but a league minimum defenseman would have performed just as well defensively in the post season.
Seems like a tremendous guy but his play isn't even close to his cap hit, so the move had to be made. Besides, as the captain I don't think it's good if you are playing like a fringe NHL player, doesn't send the right message to the team.
I wonder how much salary they are going to have to retain to get rid of him. That is the sad thing, his contract is a costly mistake no matter what happens.
Fact is he’s a 3rd line Dman, well respected in the locker room sure, but his output on the ice is not close to being that of someone making $8M a year
I love Trouba but I love the Rangers more. Trouba has not been preforming to the tune of 8 million per year. It’s time for the Rangers to move on. If Trouba really wants to stay in NYC he can take a steep pay cut. Id keep him on the team for 2 mil a year.
More worried about how they replace him. Not so much his exact type but the cap hit/player type they replace him with. I don’t trust this organization at all.
I'll say THIS about the guy, he is a Leader! Whether he chooses to or not....He's not the type of guys who wants to speak up but he's willing to do so when it's needed. In the Military you NEED guys like this to unfuck things and keep people from getting hurt or killed. Unfortunately, as hockey players get older they tend to push plays and hits far further than they should. And that goes for all jobs where physicality and ability are a factor. Unfortunately, you have to understand your limits and your abilities well, in order not to HURT your team instead of help. He's quickly moving on the negative side of that and we definitely saw that in the playoffs! Regular season he can be a strong force and grind the opposition down, in the playoffs he loses a lot of those battles and his lack of speed really is exposed. Regular season hockey is such a different thing than playoff hockey and some players just don't have the extra gear to shift up to! Wish him the best but currently we're not going to win with a Captain like THAT as unfortunate as THAT is.
He’s not a dirty player and he’s a good person, but he was a complete liability and his contract is really crippling the team.
He’s still making $8M and if the rumors are true, he will be returning to the area where he grew up and played in college. He’ll be fine
great ranger. had a very good run here. some great moments but we can upgrade get younger and save money if we can make this move. at this point im good to let him go
Reminder: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ6RlVk\_EBQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ6RlVk_EBQ)
Context/Impact: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVwBoCW22uo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVwBoCW22uo)
With Goodrow and potentially Trouba gone, I think Trocheck and Kreider will or needs to (continue to) step up into the leadership roles. And the coaching/GM will need to continue to up the ability of this team to play tough and not get out-muscled off pucks and shy away from hits. Next season is a pivotal year.
Sure he had some nice moments for the Rangers over the years, in particular the helmet throw that turned that season around, however his play this year was poor and if we have a chance to get out of that albatross of a contract, you do it.
Not really. If they can get out of this deal & improve the defense I will be pleased. Since 2015 at the latest this team has been weak at getting out of the zone & moving the puck up the ice. I'd love to see that change.
When we got Trouba I was positive, as many people had good things to say about him. However, his play never lived up to that expectation imo. He strikes me as yet another poor NYR assessment re defensemen.
Yeah I am on a lot of levels. The second he leaves the team gets softer and easier to play against. None of the names I m hearing (Kane,stamkos,Zegras,skinner) are going to make the rangers bigger, stronger, faster. Every name we are tied to is slower, older, skill players. But nothing has happened yet so it's all smoke. I d be fine running a team out next year that has #8 as the 3rd pair D . It's a long season and shit happens
Absolutely. One of the only on the team to do the dirty work when needed. Only Dman that hits hard. Was he the best they ever had, no, not by far, but he served well. Yes, time to move on. And I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a good year or 2 with a good team once he is fully healthy.
Idk if sad is the exact right word. He kinda played himself out of favour here by becoming a liability. The dude off ice is definitely likeable but in the environment of a sports franchise if you’re hurting the team more than helping it’s clearly not a fit anymore, no matter how good of a dude you are. I do wish it worked out but I get that it isn’t
Yes. It’s f***ed up. If this has to happen, hopefully Zibanejad is next. Trouba might not be worth 8 but Zibanejad is certainly not worth 8.5 until he’s 37, that I can tell you…. At least Trouba’s contract is up in 2 years and not for nothing he’s the captain…. It’s insane that this fanbase acts like he’s done nothing for the Rangers and if he goes I’ll miss the guy
I think the rangers are looking at the next two years with this group. If we don’t get the job done by then panarins contract is over, They will try to trade Zib at that point.
I mean he’s one of the dirtiest fucks in the nhl. Unlike the Florida dirty fucks, he is also a bad player. Trying to defend him is pointless, we watch him almost kill himself this post season trying to literally murder someone.
For someone who does work with concussion and epilepsy charities he does his part in making sure the charities need to exist. I don’t buy how the worst player on the ice most nights can inspire you in the locker room that much. Captaincy doesn’t mean all that much when your captain is trying to kill people out there nightly. Thanks but no thanks, see ya Jake.
What else do you call that attempt in the canes series? If he makes contact there god only knows the injury for both of them. He plays like a fucking idiot. We need toughness but smart toughness, not stupid toughness.
I'd call it an egregiously poor attempt at a reckless hit, but, I would be very surprised if at any point in that sequence he had the intention to *kill* Necas.
I think it's going to give Drury a reputation that may make people think twice about signing here. Yes, it is NYC and people will want to come anyways but these people still are human and want to be treated as such. You could say he's getting money still, but athlete's have egos there's more there than just money.
I’ve never been a fan of trouba …. I knew he’d never duplicate the numbers he had when he came to us. I’ve always felt like he was a step slow and awful with the puck on his stick.
That said, I don’t hate him and maybe I’d be less annoyed at the little things that he messes up on if we weren’t paying him so god damn much. My concern is that he’d be our next Marc staal. He’d be a solid glue guy, people would love him but he’d overstay his welcome and get older and slower and then it would cause annoyance.
I never feel sad for multimillionaires who play a sport/game for a living.... None of these decisions are personal, it's business. He'll go to Detroit and quickly establish himself off ice, as all these players do. I only care if the Rangers win a cup. If they think removing Trouba is the best decision, we have to trust in that. Not sad, but sucks Trouba can't entirely live up to his contract because I love his physicality and violent hits and I'll miss that.
Not really, I'm never sad about getting rid of a player who's overpaid for their level of play, especially at an $8+million cap hit. Lundqvist was the only player I was ever sad about but that was way different circumstances.
Getting rid of Trouba (and Goodrow tysm Drury) is how we'll be able to afford a true 1RW among other pieces that we need to lift Stanley's mug.
If Trouba was making $3-4 million this would be a different story but 8?? Fox makes 9 and he's an all star franchise future HOF D.
I like him. And I wish he was leaving on better terms. But business is business. And ours just got cutthroat because Drury and company know we need a Cup.
The vast majority of his hits are textbook and as clean as they come, he’s a throwback player... Hes the scapegoat of every other fanbases hate for the Rangers, I always feel he’s been unfairly targeted, he cares and seems like a really good person. That being said, he’s tremendously overpaid, and he’s been more and more just TERRIBLE at defense. Hes a defensive liability and he’s a defenseman. A change of scenery (most likely a homecoming for him) will be a welcome change for everyone.
I exhaustingly defended Trouba the last 2 years (mostly from fellow Rangers fans) and this season, from the awful stretch in January to the ECF I just can’t do it anymore. He was more harm than good in many games. I wish him well, and won’t lose a moments sleep. I’ve been more gutted to see 4th liners go than this honestly
no, not at all. I’ve seen enough Rangers over the years who deserved far better from the organization and get absolutely shafted by the front office. the only thing I’m sad about regarding Trouba is his playoff performances in 2022 & 2024. thanks for your service, but your time has passed.
To hear reports that he’s shocked about this is making me feel better about getting rid of him. He has 0 self awareness. People talk about off ice stuff and he’s a good guy who cares about that? It’s professional hockey he’s making 8 mil a year to be awful. In what world would a player be surprised he’s on the trade block after being on the ice for 17 of 35 goals in a post season run? He’s a selfish hockey player and I can’t wait to never have to watch him play for the rangers again. Shocked?? Give me a break Trouba.
Nope
He should have never been given that deal ….. was a bad overpay from day 1
Hard to feel bad for a millionaire who doesn’t work a real job who will continue to be paid millions
Let’s face facts if his contract is bad what do you call Zibanejad’s? 8.5 for another 6 years to disappear when it counts? 9.5 per for Fox is an over payment by a million and a half, he’s not Makar as much as everyone wants him to be.
Don’t get me wrong I’m a Fox fan but in a salary cap era every penny counts.
Zibanejad had an awful season but he played like a top-15 NHL center, at worst, the previous few seasons. Fox is a Norris trophy winner, had some bad injury luck this year. I don’t really see it as the same situation personally. If Zibanejad doesn’t return to form this year I will start to feel this way.
What bothers me that nobody seems to be saying is the entire defense had a bad year. It wasn’t just Trouba. To me Trouba suffered chasing Millers mistakes. He was a defensive liability all season and into the playoffs. Failing to clear pucks, out of position, turnovers and getting caught up ice. But for some reason Miller is a golden child and Trouba due to the cap hit is the villain.
I understand. It definitely just comes down to the expectations. Miller is still young growing as a player. I think people suspect Trouba can’t rebound from this bad season he had. I am not so sure about that myself. But we definitely can improve defensively. But Miller is at an age where he still should be improving a little every year. If Fox gets healthy, Miller and Schneider get better, Trouba plays like he did the year before this one, it could go a long way.
Trouba the person seems to be a stand up guy and a good dude. Trouba the hockey player is overpaid for his current level of play. This is a business decision, not a personal decision. The team and the front office really like him (and so do I). But he makes too much money and his contract allows him to be traded. The reason his contract switched over to a MNTC at this point is for this exact reason. It’s a way out for the team if his cap hit becomes too high for his on ice value as he ages. It’s the same reason Kreider is able to be traded now. The difference is Kreider got better as he got older and Trouba didn’t. The Kreider contract looks like a steal now.
> This is a business decision, not a personal decision. Entirely true from the org's standpoint, but the vitriol toward him in this sub over the last month has reflected a lot of personal animosity rather than just keen business sense (which makes some sense...it sucks to see your team lose in the CF, and between his contract and visibly poor play in the postseason, Trouba makes the perfect scapegoat).
Yeah not to mention he played injured the entire last portion of the seasons. One of main reasons i dont watch any pro sports other than the NHL is because so many of the fans are insufferable bitches. I always thought NHL fans were different but that isnt true any longer. The personal attacks on players and the obvious lack of basic knowledge of the game and how it is played from some Rangers fans is fucking brutal. It has only gotten worse since they got eliminated. Final four and lost to the Stanley Cup Champion playing 3 OT games and some Rangers fans cant stop bitching and moaning. Its fucking pathetic.
Love it. Agree 100 %.
I like him a lot. But overpaid indeed with best days behind him. Saw that these playoffs
I can’t speak for anyone else in the sub. I’ve been very critical of Trouba since about round 2 of the playoffs, but it’s never been personal. He seems like a good guy who cares about people, who contributes a lot to his franchise, fans, and community when off the ice. Unfortunately, he doesn’t have very strong hockey IQ and he’s become a liability on the ice, especially in high pressure situations. Moving on from him isn’t a personal choice, it’s a business decision, based entirely on his performance and not on his personality.
Agreed, I am very sad because I actually think hes a good captain and an gives a ton back off the ice to charity, but alas this is the business, and I am glad we are not doing it like 2010’s where we hang on to players too long hoping that things will change, and regret it when they do not. Hard choices have to be made to win it all, and I believe in Drury as a gm.
Thisll give him a chance to do more good in other places (detroit?) too at least so thats a positive.
If kreider got traded I’d feel like I did when Zucc was sent, it ruined my week.
I think that one would hurt even more. I was also miserable for a week with the Zucc trade. Trading Christopher James Kreider would be devastating lol
It’s always the name on the front of the sweater, never the name on the back. Thanks for your service. Let’s go Rangers.
That’s why the Yankees are one of only 6 teams to never have names on their jerseys.
as someone who knows nothing about baseball i know for a fact that i've seen people wear Tanaka and Judge jerseys with the name on the back. is that just for fan jerseys? are they unofficial jerseys?
Yeah, those are just fan jerseys. Yankees don’t wear names on back
Many teams that don’t have names on the backs of their jerseys still sell jerseys that include a last name. They’re usually much cheaper, and some people don’t mind the name on the back. Although there are many who don’t like them
interesting, thanks for explaining!
Replica Yankees jerseys have the name on the back. You have to pay for it to be nameless/authentic
It’s crazy to have to pay more for less work/product lol
Leave it to the Yankees to charge more to have something not on it.
Yes, those are unofficial jerseys and I just shake my head when I see them
What other teams don’t have names on their jerseys? Boston has them on their away jerseys, so they don’t count.
Penn State Football is one I know of and the Red Sox were one I did count. I remember hearing the stat before. So I can’t give a full answer
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In rugby for years it was customary not to have names on jerseys. For two reasons 1) In rugby the number denotes playing position and 2) because no one has 'claim' to the jersey. I think it's a nice touch for the teams but makes you lose connection to the player. For example, there will never be a 99 like Wayne, a 10 like Messi or a 23 like Jordan. But at the same time it keeps people (and more importantly the players) focused on the team.
He's a good dude. I'm sure he'll be a fan favorite wherever he goes. He'll make some big plays and be a good teammate. Personally I'm over it. Any regrets I have about Trouba as a person or a player are vastly overshadowed by the wasted opportunity of another year down the drain, due significantly to his inability to play his position. Especially when you factor in his cap hit. His presence on this team is a massive anchor if we want any real playoff success. The human side of this situation sucks, but the needs of the team come first. I'm sure he'll understand.
Perfectly said
He almost single-handedly cost us the ECF. Out of position going for hits instead of playing the puck. I know Mika’s turnover was why we lost. But Trouba broke the PK structure by going for a hit leading to a wide open guy infront of the net in OT. He’s a good person. A foundation i really feel is a pretty forgotten disability. But he was not just bad but a brutal liability
As stated here, he seems like a really good guy and a standup teammate. He is (or perhaps soon to be was) the captain of the team for a reason, and seems like an extremely caring and giving and genuine person. Hockey wise, no, not really saddened by it. We shipped McDonagh off to Tampa and he’s an incredible defensive defenseman. Trouba makes a lot of bonehead decisions that you could theoretically live with if he was making less money, but the unfortunate part of sports is; he’s making way too much and making terrible decisions at times when scrutiny is magnified. Wish him the best regardless.
Interesting to bring up McDonagh. Him I miss.
Mcdonaugh was a dick to us in the 22 ecf. But yeah his offense and defense were better. Tampas defense fell off a cliff when he left. The 12-15 rangers overall had a lot of great defensive d men.
Honestly yeah. People have short memories in sports. Obv he kinda fucked us in the playoffs but he was a pretty pivotal player in the regular season. Not saying he was great but he was all in as a player at some key times, whether it was just a ballsy defensive play or a signature hit. Also, does anyone here remember the helmet throw? Shit like that matters. His contract is completely indefensible so no regrets, but lets have some respect for our fucking captain!
Yeah this is exactly how I feel. Seems like everyone just forgot about the helmet throw and the hard hits that turned a game around. It does matter.
Yup. I'm actually very frustrated by this. I get the arguments about cap space. But The dude is a force. I feel like this sub has gone way overboard on the Trouba hate. The same way I felt about Goodrow as well. I think that Trouba still has a few solid year in the tank. And I feel like we will end up paying him 2.5 mil per year to crush us on the ice. The first time he lifts Artemi off his skates, the fans here are going to turn on him the same way the rest of NHL Reddit has.
Agreed. The internet just turns into an angry mob a lot of the time. People’s reactions go way overboard. What can ya do.
I know he isn't the best player in the NHL and his contract is overly generous but he's a fierce player and puts out strong energy on the ice. He hits like a freight train, has the ability to fire the boys up (the helmet throw is a great example), and when he's on the ice the other team knows to keep their damn head up. I think the hate on here is incredibly overblown. We need more tough players like trouba. We just need them cheaper. Also, he's a real good dude off the ice. I wish we could keep him for half the price.
Agreed. But I'd keep him for full price instead of trading him
Hopefully this results in some more “team-friendly” contracts when players are signed across the league. If it’s only about the money for a player it won’t change, but if a player really loves the team he already plays for or is considering signing with and absolutely doesn’t want to be moved he’d better consider taking a little less to ensure he won’t be moved somewhere down the line.
Was he really a pivotal player in the regular season? His advanced metrics were horrific. The eye test for him was also bad. I thought the defense immediately got better when he got hurt and Jones went in. His relative corsi was -13.6%. I get that he was a good teammate and leader, but let’s be real, the guy was an awful defenseman and his departure is addition by subtraction.
yeah we've already started with the rose tinted revisionism and he's not even gone yet. At least people waited to lie about Girardi and Staal until they were well off the team.
Fucking you in the playoffs is lesser on your list than "bring pivotal in the regular season"? Welp, good luck
He was far from our worse defenseman in the playoffs. This narrative needs to go to bed. Miller and Lindgren were worse. Schneider wasn’t great either. Trouba had some very bad sequences but those were washed out by some very good play at other times. Miller Lindgren and Schneider were bad with no upside and that hurt us more than Troubas few bad plays over the 3 series we played. But agreed, he’s got to go because the cap flexibility is more valuable than he is. We will definitely miss him come playoffs next year though if he does get shipped out
I like Trouba alot as a person and a player so it sucks that he has a poison contract. I think the team benefits from his toughness and leadership, etc. But I was thinking that him playing through it in the playoffs was a mistake. It's incredible feat toughing it out playing through a broken ankle or whatever but why did we have to do that when we were scratching viable defenders? Go day to day and call up Jones for a game, don't flail on the biggest stage because you're hurt. Between him and even Fox it was tough to watch them play in such a diminished way
I have to imagine NHL video scouts know exactly what to look for. Would bet hard cash there were film room studies, coaching forwards to 'go around Trouba on the right side' based on an inability to put full weight back on his left ankle, or whatever.
agreed which make the nhl injury policy laughable. "lower body injury" every team knows more or less exactly whats up
I think this is really on the coach and as much as I appreciate Lavi, I agree this was a mistake
This is thing that these older coaches do that irritate me. They will never adjust to injuries or "veteran" presence despite when the writing is on the wall. Shame.
A lot of people were constantly bitching about trouba but I also think fox was pretty much absent also. Both should have sat when they needed to
Probably universal agreement that he should go - but that's not what you're asking. I appreciated the fact that he would throw the big check that really pissed off the entire fuckin' league. For years, the Rangers were the pissed off team, or what felt to me like the pissed on team. I hated having a soft, puss team and it all culminated in "The Wilson Incident" that reworked the entire organization. Trouba brought it, I liked that. Yeah, sad to see him go.
If we didn't have Rempe and Edstrom and Roobreck coming up I'd be worried about losing Trouba for this reason, specially since the whole Metro has decided it seems to either rent/buy or draft their Counter Rempe bigs lol
He came over and brought a toughness and physicality we had needed forever. If his contract wasn't as big as it it, we probably aren't thinking of moving him, but that contract has become a problem relative to his performance
His contract is another victim of Covid. If not for those flat cap years, Trouba’s contract would not be so hard to move.
As a player, no. As a human being, yeah a little. While I don't think Trouba and his wife would mind going home, they both really committed to being active in the community and becoming New Yorkers. Off the ice, Trouba (and his wife Kelly) are great members of the Rangers family. On the ice, he kinda has to go if we're gonna have a real chance to build a Cup-winning team.
I'm sure if he was making 2-3mil and stapled to the 3D it wouldn't have been an issue. However even during the season he was hurting the team (they played better when he was out of the lineup, Key played substantially better when he was off that pairing for example). Sure he's a great guy, but if you're not helping the team win, and in some cases, actively helping them lose games....it's time to go.
I respect him as a person and the way he plays so much. I hope he stays but I understand if he doesn’t. I will be sad to see him go, if he does, but I love the way he represented the rangers and I think he is a great, caring human being
100 % agree. I wanted him as captain and I will be sad to see him ago. I understand his contract is bad (a long standing Ranger tradition) and he has to be moved. Hopefully we don’t miss having a hammer.
If he decides to go into coaching one day I think he’d be an excellent Rangers coach
He’s been my favorite Captain since Jagr. Feels like we’re soft again without him on the blue line.
I’m annoyed at the rangers. They keep moving captains like it’s nothing. It’s no wonder we haven’t won a cup. You keep changing leadership over and over and over. Trouba should take as long as he needs. The Rangers fucked themselves with a lot of contracts so it’s their problem to deal with. There is a countless list. He’s got great leverage on them. Take all the time you need to fuck with front office. If he wants to stay I’ll support him either way. We all need to stop speculating what stupid Friedman is saying.
I agree, I got caught up in all the rumors yesterday and now who knows what’s gonna happen. Either way I hope for the best for him.
I bought a trouble jersey this year and will probably continue to wear it any time we play the penguins
I hope it doesn’t say “Trouble” on the back of that jersey - c’mon man! LOL
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His contract sucks. But as a player I love him. If he was getting paid closer to his on-ice value we'd love to still have him. Same with Goodrow. Absolutely agree with the sentiment of this post though. Trouba has been a true Ranger and a great captain in his time here.
I feel like there's a big disconnect between fans that are fans of the players as people and fans that are mini-GMs/coaches. Trouba is the captain for a reason, and Messier gave him that dumb award for a reason. He's clearly a positive locker-room presence, and as a fan I think he's easy to root for. My dad knows almost nothing about hockey and he was so impressed by his leadership and him playing through a broken ankle. Hopefully Trouba lands on a good team and can just give his vet presence from a 2nd or 3rd line somewhere. I'll remember his time here fondly.
I mean... No. He makes $8 million a year. I'm not getting weepy over anyone like that. Seems he's a great guy who teammates love and respect. But his on-ice performance is nowhere near good enough for the money, and I'm by far most concerned with the on-ice product, and the diagonal letters across the chest, not the ones on the back.
Not really. If he didnt have that horrible contract, he'd probably would stay. His hits are clean, and sometimes wakes the team up. But, at the end of the day, it's a business. But the more important thing is, assuming he's traded, who's the replacement the Rangers would look into getting? that's the real question
He’s being paid Adam Fox money to play like Chad Ruhwedhl. Bye
I like the guy very much!
I’m aggravated by the hard salary cap more than anything else. Relic of the past.
I’d buy him a beer…just sayin’…
I’m a Trouba fan. He brings a lot to the table that we don’t have enough of on the Rangers team. This year was a rough one, no doubt. I believe he will have some level of bounce back season next year. All that said, he simply is severely over paid for his role and his production and the smart business decision is to move him.
Only game at MSG I've ever been to was the helmet throw game. He was basically the only player on the ice I liked that night. And, while ultimately it may not have amounted to much, it was the turning point which sparked last season's rally. I'll always appreciate that. Trouba's had good times and bad times here. Overall, I aint mad at him. Time's up though.
I'm sad everyone is shitting on him. Like wtf have some loyalty. To your capt
He's a good dude with a win mentality. People saying he shouldn't be the captain need to understand that the staff voted it with heavy consideration from the players. We are not in the locker room but with the team 24/7. His teammates and coaches like him and appreciate his work. He's had his moments where he's lived up to his patch, one of the biggest being his hit and fight against the Hawks and snapping at the team for the lack of effort and how poor the team was playing at the time. Or his massive hit against Timo in the postseason when they were down 2-0 in game seven. His play has been poor, and I've criticized him like everyone else. But mentally, he wants to win, and he wants to stay. He rejected* going to his hometown and playing with one of his favorite teammates to stay in NY. (These are speculations, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were true.) Unfortunately, this is business at the end of the day, and the window is shrinking with each playoff exit. Eight million for a 3rd pairing defenseman isn't going to cut it. If he leaves, good luck to him. If he stays, I pray for a massive uptrend next year. Hopefully, this drama will serve as motivation.
I always feel players who have high salaries will always be held to higher standards. Once they don’t perform as expected they are almost always dealt. Trouba probably understands, he’s probably won’t be comfortable with it but he should understand
I’m sure he will be fine. At the end of the day he is making $8 mil a year to play hockey.
Honestly no he wasn’t a long time ranger player . He was some one that came didn’t live up to his potential and time to move along … thank you for your time best of luck
lol no
sorry but no
Guy seems like a great dude and is a good player but the reality of the post-covid cap means we have to make hard decisions if we want to win. I wish there was some kind of option we could give him to restructure his contract because he seems like the kind of guy who might take a cut to stay here but that's not the case.
Sad because he seems like a great dude that was all in as a ranger but at the same time, his play looked problematic this post season.
I'm with you, Trouba is a heart and soul guy that you love in the locker room, but it's time to move on. He's kinda like the beer league guy playing a division or two too high, but is a cool dude, hangs out after the game, so he sticks around even though in the ice he's hurting you. So yeah, we need to move on, but we can also appreciate that he seems like a stand up guy and cares more about the team than himself.
A little. I like Trouba as a player, just not for 8M/year. If the NHL allowed something like all the European soccer leagues do where a team can take on a portion of a contract in exchange for assets, and the Rangers were willing to give up a pick/prospect for a rebuilder to absorb about half of Trouba’s cap hit, that would be my ideal outcome.
Yes. I enjoy watching him. I think his game is essential for rangers regular season. You need tough guys. A healthy trouba can still compete in playoffs in my opinion, but will he be healthy? Like others have said, it’s just his percentage of cap hit. I understand that, but I’ll be sad to see him go nonetheless.
Always said this and will continue to. He’s a class act. Wants nothing but the best for his teammates and fans. But that cap hit is what pushes him out the door. 3rd pair liability at 8m is criminal. If he was 2-4 i’d be perfectly fine with him as a player. But 8 mil cripples this team in getting better. Hope he comes to realize that he should just move on and accept the trade to a team was wants him now.
I'm pretty sure he was playing through an injury for a lot of the playoffs, but he unfortunately just didn't have a good run and is taking the brunt of the blame for our going out. I think once everyone has fully cooled down from our exit people will realize how much we do love him being on the Rangers. The business decision of it is what it is, I just hope Ranger fans can look at him potentially being traded as a necessary dissappointment rather than a "don't let the door hit ya" I will always love Troubs!
I feel like his injury is being held against him too much for this to be happening, but that's just me.
I like Trouba! I think for what it’s worth he’s a solid defensemen, and he only did bad in the playoffs because he was injured. He still helped bring us to the presidents trophy, so I can’t understand why so many people want him sent to the moon
He’s caused me lots of pain when watching so no
No. We never should have acquired him. Spending Pionk and a 1st to get a player who was older than Pionk, less offensively minded than Pionk, and now as we've seen less durable than Pionk was a mind numbingly stupid mistake. Paying this guy $8M over 7 years was the real crime. Pionks extension was $5.875M... We got bent over 5 barrels and fucked twice on each one, all on the backs of "trouba will being 50 points a year to the back end". We bought high on a bad stock and then paid the price for it not even 2 years after the free agency signing.
I’ll always remember him as the one stabbing at Mcdavid as he skates through 4 rangers to score and tie the game in Edmonton. [See it here](https://youtu.be/laNRPAjKQsM?si=WsPjjkYdCYtQVfKy). The line where great offense begins and bad defense ends is sometimes hard to figure out.
He made too many boneheaded plays, but other than that, his physicality is going to be greatly missed. If there was one thing that we know we need, it’s to be more physical and it feels like getting rid of your most physical player is the opposite of what we should be doing.
Agreed. Better have a replacement in line re; physicality..otherwise , just another soft rangers team. That we’ve seen for more than a decade
No, he sucks and 8 million is too much to play on the 3rd pair
Nope. Was always a doofus and played like one as well.
Never forget the helmet throw
No honestly, no offense to him
Literally couldn’t be happier
Not a fan of some of the comments about him. He deserves better.
💯 we have a lot of keyboard warriors here
nope not sad at all, ship him, I have very little attachment to players anymore, it's all about the team. I don't even really dislike the guy or anything but you have to be good with decisions like this.
100% There’s only a handful of players I truly “get attached”to and that heavily depends on if they won a cup with the Rangers. Lundqvist being the one guy who didn’t who I’ll love forever. Even guys like Zucc who was beloved when he was here is just another good former Ranger to me. Guys like Leetch, Mess, Richter, Graves, Hank. Those guys are immortal imo. Long story short, it’s time to win a damn cup.
He hasn't been close to the player that Gorton thought he was signing. He also was a big part of the Rangers not getting to the cup final in 22 and 24. Sorry, but good riddance.
Not at all
Not really no. I’m sure he’s done some intangible things in the locker room but thanks for your service.
I'm not sad at all. When you're a fan of sports as long as I have. I'm in my 60s. I've been a Rangers fan for over 50 years. I've learned it part of sports and life in general.
Why doesn’t anyone acknowledge the non sabermetric advantage of simply making the opposing forwards keep their heads up? I love Trouba, he’s a warrior and a leader. Fuck the cap, keep the captain!
He was my favorite during the 2022 run. I’ll miss his efforts. Time goes on though
100%. Think of 2 years ago against Chicago when he threw his helmet. He led that team. He was hurt in the playoffs, not an excuse, but kind of is. He's a competitor, he wanted to play. Did it hurt us? Yes and no. Was Zach Jones the answer? No one can really say. If he wasn't an 8 million dollar cap hit, everyone would hate him less. His contract isn't his fault. If he goes, I get it, I've enjoy him as a Ranger.
Did I miss something? He is still on the team
Trouba opens up a lot of space with just his presence.
How do we know the players love his leadership? Kreider when turning down the C said it was obvious Trouba wanted it more. We fall in line with the media pushing how he is great in the room when actually nobody knows what the players really truly feel. The best leadership is role-model leadership and when you play hurt and stink up the ice, all else doesn’t really matter. Hope they can move on and I was a big proponent of getting him from way back as a partner for McD, who was then Moved to make room for Trouba type contract; they moved too late to eventually land him and then his drop off in play has been an anvil around the team’s neck. The irony is he was supposed to be an offensive weapon. Jeez.
Mostly from the local writers who constantly talk about how well liked he is in the locker room and as captain. And before you ask me for the source I am not going to dig through all these podcasts I listen to. It would take an entire weekend.
Local writers like Vince who never played or covered hockey prior to given the beat as a cheap replacement to Carp and then had no access to players during 3 seasons of Covid. Try to find a comment from a player in the league who spoke poorly about a current captain… Obviously being a NYR captain has little merit as the last 2 prior have been traded and the latest is supposedly on the block.
No. He’s not good at all and doesn’t make this team better in any fashion. Buh bye
No.
He’s a good guy and a great locker room presence it seems but I’m incredibly happy that we were able to get off him and goodrow, it stings but those contracts have been hamstringing us since 2021 and we can finally afford actual quality players for the top/ middle six now hopefully
I like Trouba a lot, however his cap hit at 8mil is not equal to his hockey output. that being said he brought much needed physicality whether that be his big hits or fighting when necessary which allowed the rest of the team to play their own way and grow, I think people have short-term/selective memory (not defending awful playoff play)
Trouba seems like a good dude but other than leadership he isn’t good and has one of the worse contracts in the league . His leadership and physicality can easily be replaced, especially with Rempe getting NHL experience. I think Braden Schneider will be a better version of Trouba. If Trouba made like 2 million he’d be less of a liability but for 8 million a year you should be at least a Sergechev level player
Would’ve been great if he redeemed with some nasty timely hits during the playoffs.
I’m not worried about Trouba. He’s been more than adequately compensated. I care about the Rangers. Trouba is a liability. He didn’t just have a bad year - he was costly in the playoffs. He was not good. I don’t know how good a captain he is because a lot of that stuff is done behind closed doors. And maybe some of his bad decisions had to do with his injuries. But for the money he’s getting paid he is a terrible contract. I like toughness but only when there is purpose. He’s committed a lot of stupid penalties which cost us dearly and left us shaking our heads. He’s a net negative. Get rid of him
Yeah trouba was the player that really got me into hockey watching his hits the past 3 season really got me invested and knowing that he may no longer be a ranger is pretty disheartening.
Always liked him but if they can trade him without coughing up much it’s a no brainer on that contract. If he was making 4-5 it wouldn’t be an issue.
I try not to get overly attached to players anymore.if you’re on the team and helping, great! I’ll root for your success and sing your praises. No longer useful to the team? Byeeeeee!
I can’t help but root for the players as well as the team. I think it makes it more fun and meaningful. But I understand Drury can’t do that, he has to look at it as a business.
I was at game 4 against the Panthers when he lost us that game, and maybe the series…He’s a great person, no doubt and would be missed in the locker room. But he shouldn’t have been playing.
I love Trouba, I think he's a solid player. But, I think his time here has run his course. When Trouba is ON, the dude is a menace and a game changer. He ignites the crowd and invigorates his team mates, while giving pause to his opponents. He was a Monster and more than once caused me to audibly cheer at home by myself after depleting some schmuck with his head down. But, this last year, almost no hits like that all year, to go with declining defensive play and almost nonexistent offensive contribution. So eventually by the end all he did was take unnecessary penalties and be on the ice puck watching as yet another goal went it. So yeah, when he gets 250 characters of hate it kinda sucks and feels unfair. But, his time has come and gone. Someone else needs the C and Trouba needs to be out of the Metro. Talk of him moving to Detroit isn't far enough away, we need to send him to like San Jose like Goodrow. Because the dude will absolutely light up Panarin or Fox the first chance he gets in someone else's jersey, so we need to limit interaction.
is it a guarantee he’s gone?
No it was looking like it was a done deal yesterday per Elliot Freidman but then last night he backtracked and now it appears to be a huge mess… so we’ll see.
Moving him doesn’t even mean they don’t like the guy. It’s his contract. It’s going to handicap them in the near future. If they could keep him at 4-5 mill then they probably would, but it’s just too much. They have to sign Shesterkin, Laffy, and more.
He's a likeable player at 4-5 million. He was crushed by the weight of his contract. His physicality will be difficult to replace but a league minimum defenseman would have performed just as well defensively in the post season.
Seems like a tremendous guy but his play isn't even close to his cap hit, so the move had to be made. Besides, as the captain I don't think it's good if you are playing like a fringe NHL player, doesn't send the right message to the team. I wonder how much salary they are going to have to retain to get rid of him. That is the sad thing, his contract is a costly mistake no matter what happens.
Fact is he’s a 3rd line Dman, well respected in the locker room sure, but his output on the ice is not close to being that of someone making $8M a year
This is why you never get attached to players
No. I’m not sad. You get what you give. I think his leadership in the locker was lacking. Why else would you move on from your captain?
Not fond of his contract, so I understand why he is going, but I really like him (have his jersey) and sad that he is leaving.
I mean come on the hot was clean. Besides that it looks like they both ran into one another. It is Hockey 🏒🥅
I love Trouba but I love the Rangers more. Trouba has not been preforming to the tune of 8 million per year. It’s time for the Rangers to move on. If Trouba really wants to stay in NYC he can take a steep pay cut. Id keep him on the team for 2 mil a year.
No
Nope. Gonna crack a mini champagne once that contract is officially off the books
Who are ppl gonna blame now when miller fucks up?
More worried about how they replace him. Not so much his exact type but the cap hit/player type they replace him with. I don’t trust this organization at all.
Not in the slightest. The team's objective is to win championships, he actively makes that more difficult—simple decision.
No I want to win a cup and he won’t be able to facilitate that. He’s a good dude and is making plenty of money. He’ll be fine.
I'll say THIS about the guy, he is a Leader! Whether he chooses to or not....He's not the type of guys who wants to speak up but he's willing to do so when it's needed. In the Military you NEED guys like this to unfuck things and keep people from getting hurt or killed. Unfortunately, as hockey players get older they tend to push plays and hits far further than they should. And that goes for all jobs where physicality and ability are a factor. Unfortunately, you have to understand your limits and your abilities well, in order not to HURT your team instead of help. He's quickly moving on the negative side of that and we definitely saw that in the playoffs! Regular season he can be a strong force and grind the opposition down, in the playoffs he loses a lot of those battles and his lack of speed really is exposed. Regular season hockey is such a different thing than playoff hockey and some players just don't have the extra gear to shift up to! Wish him the best but currently we're not going to win with a Captain like THAT as unfortunate as THAT is.
Nah, it's time
He’s not a dirty player and he’s a good person, but he was a complete liability and his contract is really crippling the team. He’s still making $8M and if the rumors are true, he will be returning to the area where he grew up and played in college. He’ll be fine
Reading some of the responses to this and other threads I wonder if some even realize that these guys are human and have actual emotions and feelings
great ranger. had a very good run here. some great moments but we can upgrade get younger and save money if we can make this move. at this point im good to let him go
Yes
Reminder: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ6RlVk\_EBQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ6RlVk_EBQ) Context/Impact: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVwBoCW22uo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVwBoCW22uo) With Goodrow and potentially Trouba gone, I think Trocheck and Kreider will or needs to (continue to) step up into the leadership roles. And the coaching/GM will need to continue to up the ability of this team to play tough and not get out-muscled off pucks and shy away from hits. Next season is a pivotal year.
Sure he had some nice moments for the Rangers over the years, in particular the helmet throw that turned that season around, however his play this year was poor and if we have a chance to get out of that albatross of a contract, you do it.
I’d be a lot more sad at say $4 million a year
Not really. If they can get out of this deal & improve the defense I will be pleased. Since 2015 at the latest this team has been weak at getting out of the zone & moving the puck up the ice. I'd love to see that change. When we got Trouba I was positive, as many people had good things to say about him. However, his play never lived up to that expectation imo. He strikes me as yet another poor NYR assessment re defensemen.
Yeah I am on a lot of levels. The second he leaves the team gets softer and easier to play against. None of the names I m hearing (Kane,stamkos,Zegras,skinner) are going to make the rangers bigger, stronger, faster. Every name we are tied to is slower, older, skill players. But nothing has happened yet so it's all smoke. I d be fine running a team out next year that has #8 as the 3rd pair D . It's a long season and shit happens
Honestly no, great person but I really only care about on ice
I am!
Absolutely. One of the only on the team to do the dirty work when needed. Only Dman that hits hard. Was he the best they ever had, no, not by far, but he served well. Yes, time to move on. And I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a good year or 2 with a good team once he is fully healthy.
Nah, in all honesty I wanted them to trade him right before he was named captain.
Idk if sad is the exact right word. He kinda played himself out of favour here by becoming a liability. The dude off ice is definitely likeable but in the environment of a sports franchise if you’re hurting the team more than helping it’s clearly not a fit anymore, no matter how good of a dude you are. I do wish it worked out but I get that it isn’t
Yes. It’s f***ed up. If this has to happen, hopefully Zibanejad is next. Trouba might not be worth 8 but Zibanejad is certainly not worth 8.5 until he’s 37, that I can tell you…. At least Trouba’s contract is up in 2 years and not for nothing he’s the captain…. It’s insane that this fanbase acts like he’s done nothing for the Rangers and if he goes I’ll miss the guy
I think the rangers are looking at the next two years with this group. If we don’t get the job done by then panarins contract is over, They will try to trade Zib at that point.
Nah call me salty but he cost us in the playoffs and am glad to be rid of his contract
No.
Not at all
nah ✌️ sir
I mean he’s one of the dirtiest fucks in the nhl. Unlike the Florida dirty fucks, he is also a bad player. Trying to defend him is pointless, we watch him almost kill himself this post season trying to literally murder someone. For someone who does work with concussion and epilepsy charities he does his part in making sure the charities need to exist. I don’t buy how the worst player on the ice most nights can inspire you in the locker room that much. Captaincy doesn’t mean all that much when your captain is trying to kill people out there nightly. Thanks but no thanks, see ya Jake.
> trying to literally murder someone.
What else do you call that attempt in the canes series? If he makes contact there god only knows the injury for both of them. He plays like a fucking idiot. We need toughness but smart toughness, not stupid toughness.
I'd call it an egregiously poor attempt at a reckless hit, but, I would be very surprised if at any point in that sequence he had the intention to *kill* Necas.
I think it's going to give Drury a reputation that may make people think twice about signing here. Yes, it is NYC and people will want to come anyways but these people still are human and want to be treated as such. You could say he's getting money still, but athlete's have egos there's more there than just money.
Not at all we want to win here
I’ve never been a fan of trouba …. I knew he’d never duplicate the numbers he had when he came to us. I’ve always felt like he was a step slow and awful with the puck on his stick. That said, I don’t hate him and maybe I’d be less annoyed at the little things that he messes up on if we weren’t paying him so god damn much. My concern is that he’d be our next Marc staal. He’d be a solid glue guy, people would love him but he’d overstay his welcome and get older and slower and then it would cause annoyance.
I never feel sad for multimillionaires who play a sport/game for a living.... None of these decisions are personal, it's business. He'll go to Detroit and quickly establish himself off ice, as all these players do. I only care if the Rangers win a cup. If they think removing Trouba is the best decision, we have to trust in that. Not sad, but sucks Trouba can't entirely live up to his contract because I love his physicality and violent hits and I'll miss that.
Not really, I'm never sad about getting rid of a player who's overpaid for their level of play, especially at an $8+million cap hit. Lundqvist was the only player I was ever sad about but that was way different circumstances. Getting rid of Trouba (and Goodrow tysm Drury) is how we'll be able to afford a true 1RW among other pieces that we need to lift Stanley's mug. If Trouba was making $3-4 million this would be a different story but 8?? Fox makes 9 and he's an all star franchise future HOF D.
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#NOPE!
Not upset. Never liked his style of play. Thought he took way too many penalties. And always felt Kreider was the real captain anyway.
I like him. And I wish he was leaving on better terms. But business is business. And ours just got cutthroat because Drury and company know we need a Cup.
Trouba is great and a team should give something of value with no salary retention, I completely agree.
I'm sad it sounds like he wants to block the trade yeah
The vast majority of his hits are textbook and as clean as they come, he’s a throwback player... Hes the scapegoat of every other fanbases hate for the Rangers, I always feel he’s been unfairly targeted, he cares and seems like a really good person. That being said, he’s tremendously overpaid, and he’s been more and more just TERRIBLE at defense. Hes a defensive liability and he’s a defenseman. A change of scenery (most likely a homecoming for him) will be a welcome change for everyone. I exhaustingly defended Trouba the last 2 years (mostly from fellow Rangers fans) and this season, from the awful stretch in January to the ECF I just can’t do it anymore. He was more harm than good in many games. I wish him well, and won’t lose a moments sleep. I’ve been more gutted to see 4th liners go than this honestly
Only pro to trouba is he can take out a star player comes playoffs with no penalty with his dirty elbows. Besides that dude is useless
Its nothing personal, Sonny. He will still be paid. Just likely elsewhere...but as the great Andrew Bynum once said. Every city has an ATM
No. He will get to paint with different colors now
no, not at all. I’ve seen enough Rangers over the years who deserved far better from the organization and get absolutely shafted by the front office. the only thing I’m sad about regarding Trouba is his playoff performances in 2022 & 2024. thanks for your service, but your time has passed.
To hear reports that he’s shocked about this is making me feel better about getting rid of him. He has 0 self awareness. People talk about off ice stuff and he’s a good guy who cares about that? It’s professional hockey he’s making 8 mil a year to be awful. In what world would a player be surprised he’s on the trade block after being on the ice for 17 of 35 goals in a post season run? He’s a selfish hockey player and I can’t wait to never have to watch him play for the rangers again. Shocked?? Give me a break Trouba.
no
Nope He should have never been given that deal ….. was a bad overpay from day 1 Hard to feel bad for a millionaire who doesn’t work a real job who will continue to be paid millions
Let’s face facts if his contract is bad what do you call Zibanejad’s? 8.5 for another 6 years to disappear when it counts? 9.5 per for Fox is an over payment by a million and a half, he’s not Makar as much as everyone wants him to be. Don’t get me wrong I’m a Fox fan but in a salary cap era every penny counts.
Zibanejad had an awful season but he played like a top-15 NHL center, at worst, the previous few seasons. Fox is a Norris trophy winner, had some bad injury luck this year. I don’t really see it as the same situation personally. If Zibanejad doesn’t return to form this year I will start to feel this way.
What bothers me that nobody seems to be saying is the entire defense had a bad year. It wasn’t just Trouba. To me Trouba suffered chasing Millers mistakes. He was a defensive liability all season and into the playoffs. Failing to clear pucks, out of position, turnovers and getting caught up ice. But for some reason Miller is a golden child and Trouba due to the cap hit is the villain.
I understand. It definitely just comes down to the expectations. Miller is still young growing as a player. I think people suspect Trouba can’t rebound from this bad season he had. I am not so sure about that myself. But we definitely can improve defensively. But Miller is at an age where he still should be improving a little every year. If Fox gets healthy, Miller and Schneider get better, Trouba plays like he did the year before this one, it could go a long way.
No, if Rangers want to move forward and progress, they need to get rid of liabilities that keep repeating. Trouba never should of had the C.
No never even liked him as captain.