Right? Saying Garnacho is a twig, basically calling Varane a pussy because his foot hurts from being stamped on, constantly berating and hating on Forest’s players and everything they do. If you hate the sport that much, stop commentating on it. Miserable cunt
Says this 10x a game: “Antony hasn’t paid off in my mind yet. He’s got more to do.”
No fucking shit, he’s been here half a season and he’s a five year investment you div.
Dude doesn't know or understand the rules, moans about the calls, goes off on players being too soft, says players shouldn't use their keepers, complains about Antony and Bruno "yapping too much" and then says the first half has been miserable.
I mean I get it, not the most entertaining half. But his opinions are so Yer Da, I'd expect better from commentators lol
Edit: Sorry about the downvotes, it's okay to have different opinions folks
Varane (I guess injury prevention, Imo not a necessity to sub him off) , Casemiro, Bruno, AWB and Antony need a rest. I'm guessing Sancho and Martial are guarantees to come on though so doubt a defender comes off
No, one lucky bounce to Johnson or Dennis as we saw and it could be 1-0, and we'll have our best players off and be sitting ducks to attack after attack.
ETH ain't "resting and rotating" in a cup semi final for the 4th place trophy, nor should he.
Yes. We finished in the top 4 without winning anything in 2015, 2018, 2020 and 2021. What did that get us by way of improvement in future seasons, or competing in the Champions League? Nothing. Fuck all.
I'd rather the chance of history at Wembley. It's been far too long since we won anything.
I see both view points even though I personally prefer Champions League qualification. For me it comes down to whether Ten Hag can get proper backing in the market, and we need CL for that.
Idk, whenever we haven't been in the CL, we still invest well. See summers '14, '16, '17, '19, and arguably '22 as well. In fact, you could say the G*azers have invested more when we HAVEN'T been in the CL than when in it.
I do think that’s a thing of the past now, our financials are not in great shape, with a few journalists saying that there will be very little spending without CL.
Adidas deal also decreases significantly if we don’t qualify twice in a row, Teamviewer is trying to leave so we need a new sponsor and they’ll want us in CL.
Add in all the other investments needed in infrastructure, we really can’t afford to miss out on CL.
if you mean the trophy then yes.
its obviously not as financially beneficial or even that important but its a trophy.
do you care about our last season in the cl? getting knocked out in the ro16 to be forgotten about as soon as it finished or a trophy you and the players will actually remember for much much longer
More about the big increase in funds than anything else. Obviously no-one wants to be 'income fc', but at the same time it's only the league cup, and we're 3-0 with 45 minutes to play
I agree about taking them off because I just dont see us losing even without them but at the end of the day im not watching football with the hopes of the owners earning more money, im watching for trophies
Fair enough, I think it’s a bit of a misleading question since there’s no reason top four and League cup both can’t happen.
But if we win a trophy this season (whether that’s League Cup, Fa cup, or EL), my main priority after that would be CL qualification, not another cup trophy. We need to qualify just for the future health of the club and for Ten Hag’s project to have the funding it needs.
Antony looks so much better the last few games, like when he first joined. Who would’ve thought a player would be poor after an injury and basically not playing for two months?
We’re never getting a penalty again in a million years
Garnacho one was also definitely a pen according the rules but a foreign lad going down from a push will just be told to be stronger. Defender made no attempt to play the ball, put his hand on AG’s chest and used his full force to push him. Blatant pen.
He needs to be a lot quicker though. I hate when he just stands over the ball and starts feinting. It hasn't worked once and usually leads to him losing the ball immediately. Just play direct he's technical enough to be successful doing it
Not a great half. Need to get our important players off before Nottingham injure them all.
Fuck the commentators on ESPN+. Absolutely terrible to listen to. Apparently Bruno and Antony coming to protect a teammate is frowned upon.
Lost 3-0, now they want to "win back honor" by apparently injuring some of our players. Need to sub varane case and bruno at half time, this could get bad like it did with Reading
He's performing well with his limited skillset and that deserves to be applauded but needs selling come summer. A fullback in a Ten Hag system that hates receiving the ball is just not it.
Come on, he’s been a great deliverer of the ball. He’s done everything right! When he overlap Antony’s DECIDES not to pass it to him I’m afraid AWB hasn’t done much wrong with the opportunities he’s gotten
Could have performed like this with Case and Bruno on the bench tbh...some decent chances and not allowing anything to Forest but just far to lethargic.
I don’t know? Are the ESPN+ commentators the same across all cable and English speaking streaming services? Probably not. What service is the game broadcasted on in the UK? They’re probably different but I don’t know since I’m in the US. Drove home the first 20min and the radio (siriusxm) had talk sport commentators.
Thoughts are the only thing worse than the football on display is the *dogshit* commentary.
I can understand why the players are too pushed, already 3-0 up and a heavy schedule to go, even so it makes for dreary watching.
Out of all the world class players in English football how has Brennan Johnson been the one to have Casemiro's number lol
Otherwise pretty much a nothing game, few good touches from Bruno, I thought Garnacho, Antony and Shaw have been getting into good positions but ultimately wasteful, Weghorst had a few good layoffs but almost 0 service, Varane and Martinez excellent as per
Definitely watching the second half with Spanish commentary. Craig Burley the misery merchant can fuck off all the way back to the swamp bog he came from.
Our deliveries from wide have been shocking. Shaw especially is capable of a lot better. Antony's been alright, he'd benefit a lot from a right-back with more quality on the ball. Casemiro's been poor defensively, easily beaten twice by Brennan Johnson which could've resulted in goals. Weghorst has to score his chance.
Am I missing something with these commentators.
Forest would be happy with this performance and just keep doing the same?
Utd need to do more and kill the tie?
WE'RE 3-0 UP AND THERE'S 45 MINUTES LEFT. IT'S BAFFLING.
My thoughts are that Craig Burney has an exceptionally sandy vagina this evening.
And his co-commentator clearly agrees lol.
Get your shit together ESPN, literally everyone is talking about that moaning bitch instead of the actual game.
Honestly the male commentator has been just as bad if not worse tonight. It's not a gender issue it's just a shit commentator issue. I feel like there's only really a few commentators that are entertaining and interesting to listen to in general.
Dead rubber game almost for sure, but poor performance with respect to the standards we are aspiring to reach and the potential quality of the team on the pitch
Whoever that female commentator is, she's absolutely fucking insufferable.
How she got a commentating job with that voice is beyond me, let blind people fly planes while we're at it.
The ref & VAR are almost as bad.
We really need to give a player with Elanga's talent some more game time. Our wingers haven't been great today. Give the kid some minutes and not just garbage minutes. We saw how many teams wanted him. There's a reason for that.
The co-commentator is such a miserable git my God I'd rather listen to nails against a chalk board.
Craig burley? I can’t stand his moaning.
The only thing he’s good at
at least the other guy is sane and called him out lol
Oh my god... You could cure cancer today, and he'd tell you "It took you long enough 🙄😒"
how do people keep getting these jobs? do they even interview them or do they just put them in there?
Right? Saying Garnacho is a twig, basically calling Varane a pussy because his foot hurts from being stamped on, constantly berating and hating on Forest’s players and everything they do. If you hate the sport that much, stop commentating on it. Miserable cunt
ESPN?
Yep
Says this 10x a game: “Antony hasn’t paid off in my mind yet. He’s got more to do.” No fucking shit, he’s been here half a season and he’s a five year investment you div.
Both are awful.
Craig Burley with the Souness vibe. Super annoying.
Quite the opposite I love listening to him. Its so much fun how much he hates watching this boring ass game, like me.
Dude doesn't know or understand the rules, moans about the calls, goes off on players being too soft, says players shouldn't use their keepers, complains about Antony and Bruno "yapping too much" and then says the first half has been miserable. I mean I get it, not the most entertaining half. But his opinions are so Yer Da, I'd expect better from commentators lol Edit: Sorry about the downvotes, it's okay to have different opinions folks
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“Fernandes and Antony yapping away like Yorkshire terriers” fuck off, that challenge on Varane was horrible and deserved to be chewed out
Look at what happened to Eriksen.
Luckily a card got shown this time
First half thoughts: I can’t believe how stoned Steve Cooper always looks.
Looks like he just got done doing a 3 hour podcast with Joey Diaz
Hahaha. That’s what it is… Does he have some kind of condition? Serious question, otherwise poster middle-aged man for unhealthy diet.
He’s a mouth breather
Haha. LMAO… that’s a mental condition…
Believe it or not but chronic mouth breathing reforms your facial structure
I think its called Ptosis. Harry Redknapp has it too.
Thanks for the answer, did a quick Google search and yes that pretty much looks like him.
He looks like Mike White.
Who is the main commentator? I do appreciate him shitting on his co-commentator for being a sour puss lol
Jon Champion I think. He got fed up off Burley's rant.
Get Varane and Casemiro off right now
Varane (I guess injury prevention, Imo not a necessity to sub him off) , Casemiro, Bruno, AWB and Antony need a rest. I'm guessing Sancho and Martial are guarantees to come on though so doubt a defender comes off
No, one lucky bounce to Johnson or Dennis as we saw and it could be 1-0, and we'll have our best players off and be sitting ducks to attack after attack. ETH ain't "resting and rotating" in a cup semi final for the 4th place trophy, nor should he.
If we concede 4 goals in a half against Nottingham forest then we deserve fuck all
Not saying this isn’t important, but you’d take the League cup over Champions League football next season?
Yes. We finished in the top 4 without winning anything in 2015, 2018, 2020 and 2021. What did that get us by way of improvement in future seasons, or competing in the Champions League? Nothing. Fuck all. I'd rather the chance of history at Wembley. It's been far too long since we won anything.
I see both view points even though I personally prefer Champions League qualification. For me it comes down to whether Ten Hag can get proper backing in the market, and we need CL for that.
Idk, whenever we haven't been in the CL, we still invest well. See summers '14, '16, '17, '19, and arguably '22 as well. In fact, you could say the G*azers have invested more when we HAVEN'T been in the CL than when in it.
I do think that’s a thing of the past now, our financials are not in great shape, with a few journalists saying that there will be very little spending without CL. Adidas deal also decreases significantly if we don’t qualify twice in a row, Teamviewer is trying to leave so we need a new sponsor and they’ll want us in CL. Add in all the other investments needed in infrastructure, we really can’t afford to miss out on CL.
if you mean the trophy then yes. its obviously not as financially beneficial or even that important but its a trophy. do you care about our last season in the cl? getting knocked out in the ro16 to be forgotten about as soon as it finished or a trophy you and the players will actually remember for much much longer
More about the big increase in funds than anything else. Obviously no-one wants to be 'income fc', but at the same time it's only the league cup, and we're 3-0 with 45 minutes to play
I agree about taking them off because I just dont see us losing even without them but at the end of the day im not watching football with the hopes of the owners earning more money, im watching for trophies
Fair enough mate, we all want to be able to look back in 2030 on a really great decade
Fair enough, I think it’s a bit of a misleading question since there’s no reason top four and League cup both can’t happen. But if we win a trophy this season (whether that’s League Cup, Fa cup, or EL), my main priority after that would be CL qualification, not another cup trophy. We need to qualify just for the future health of the club and for Ten Hag’s project to have the funding it needs.
Varane was already rested up for multiple games, he doesn't need rest. Casemiro I assume will come off for Mainoo
The commentator is miserable the other one called him out for it too Sounds Scouse.
I think it’s Craig burley.
Played for Chelsea
Thats scottish
It's really bad isn't it
Literally called Bruno and Antony dogs, other commentator literally had to say "bro chill"
One of the commentators is absolutely miserable. Get him off the damn mic, holy shit.
Antony looks so much better the last few games, like when he first joined. Who would’ve thought a player would be poor after an injury and basically not playing for two months? We’re never getting a penalty again in a million years
i thought maybe the Garnacho one but that Neco Williams handball was just so blatant
Garnacho one was also definitely a pen according the rules but a foreign lad going down from a push will just be told to be stronger. Defender made no attempt to play the ball, put his hand on AG’s chest and used his full force to push him. Blatant pen.
Wasn't even reviewed either which just shows the incompetency.
He needs to be a lot quicker though. I hate when he just stands over the ball and starts feinting. It hasn't worked once and usually leads to him losing the ball immediately. Just play direct he's technical enough to be successful doing it
who is this depressing ass co commentator?
ESPN Craig Burley
Who is the grumpy old man co-commentating. Literally doesn’t talk about anything other than the generic “back in the old days” type shit.
Craig Burley
Not a great half. Need to get our important players off before Nottingham injure them all. Fuck the commentators on ESPN+. Absolutely terrible to listen to. Apparently Bruno and Antony coming to protect a teammate is frowned upon.
Our new signing number 2 has been decent
Didn't see the sub, AWB wasn't bad. But this new lad, he's got some gumption.
To be fair, AWB dropping a 9 instead of a 2 is always nice.
Who's that?
Wan Bissaka's number fell off so it was just the '2' left of his 29.
Ha. I heard the commentator say something like that but I didn't catch it.
AWB but his 9 of 29 came off somehow…
Aaron Wan
My Chinese just arrived, I feel blessed by this timing (I work late shifts and timing is usually awful)
Yummy, enjoy :)
Forrest are playing like bastards — they can fuck right off
Lost 3-0, now they want to "win back honor" by apparently injuring some of our players. Need to sub varane case and bruno at half time, this could get bad like it did with Reading
Honestly, it’s the lower tier teams that have no class. If you are shite, look in the mirror. Disgraceful
Someone's gotta check on Craig Burley and if he's okay in his life - man is absolutely miserable on commentary rn
PSA: to people watching on ESPN+ you can switch commentary to Spanish.
lads are in 2nd gear, ETH will not be happy.
So refereeing and commentary are swell.
We need to protect Varane at all costs 😭
This commentary is absolute shite, the blokes just moaning and the lady's just waffling the entire time
Not that AWB has been bad but we dearly miss what Dalot gives us on the right for attacking output
I think AWB has been decent tonight. I actually liked what I saw of him and Anthony’s partnership. Love Dalot though
Antony just not the same without his man
I disagree, I think Antony and awb have paired up well
He's performing well with his limited skillset and that deserves to be applauded but needs selling come summer. A fullback in a Ten Hag system that hates receiving the ball is just not it.
Come on, he’s been a great deliverer of the ball. He’s done everything right! When he overlap Antony’s DECIDES not to pass it to him I’m afraid AWB hasn’t done much wrong with the opportunities he’s gotten
He desperately needs to sort out his fitness. Been injured way too much this season
It's just once but for a while no?
Anyone know what his injury is?
This was the first half of the football match
We really miss Eriksen...
Three competition winners on comms tonight. Amateur hour.
If you are talking about Sky Sports then Bill Leslie is class, way way better than Martin Tyler.
Everyone in this thread seems to be watching ESPN..
Ha, i thought people were referring to Izzy Cristiansen as well.Was going to say that shes been class too.
Nope watching on sky. Tbf I don't rate Tyler either
The commentators on sky are really trying to justify their money tonight, jesus.
I feel like I’m getting a headache from them constantly talking. Like they’re scared of a few seconds of silence…
I may have to go sound off for the second half
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Ten Hag watching this sub: 😕
wish we would score so we can see more Mainoo
So, scoring without Rashford. Can we do it?
Gernacho's touch had been awful.
He is much better as a sub imo. Comes in when defenders are a bit tired. When he starts, defenders body him a lot because they are fresh
He needs minutes and Rashford needs rest
Izzy Christensen is the worst commentator Sky have ever had
Boring as expected. Don’t need any injuries so would love to see some starters subbed out at HT
We will score 100%
Could have performed like this with Case and Bruno on the bench tbh...some decent chances and not allowing anything to Forest but just far to lethargic.
Why are people complaining about announcers/commentators without saying what channel/platform they’re on?
Cuz they all suck lol
Sure, but at least we’d know which ones they’re talking about.
I think a lot of people are talking about the ESPN announcers
Seemed that way. I think Jon champion is okay but could do without Craig burley
How many english commentators are there generally in each game?
I don’t know? Are the ESPN+ commentators the same across all cable and English speaking streaming services? Probably not. What service is the game broadcasted on in the UK? They’re probably different but I don’t know since I’m in the US. Drove home the first 20min and the radio (siriusxm) had talk sport commentators.
Thoughts are the only thing worse than the football on display is the *dogshit* commentary. I can understand why the players are too pushed, already 3-0 up and a heavy schedule to go, even so it makes for dreary watching.
The Antony agenda from them actually hurts my soul
Players look knackered. This team needs rest it’s so clear.
Out of all the world class players in English football how has Brennan Johnson been the one to have Casemiro's number lol Otherwise pretty much a nothing game, few good touches from Bruno, I thought Garnacho, Antony and Shaw have been getting into good positions but ultimately wasteful, Weghorst had a few good layoffs but almost 0 service, Varane and Martinez excellent as per
because brennan johnson is quality
True tbf he does look decent
Does him repeatedly and make it looks easy doing so lol… sports are hilarious sometimes. Of all people to have an his “number” per say lol
Definitely watching the second half with Spanish commentary. Craig Burley the misery merchant can fuck off all the way back to the swamp bog he came from.
Really unnecessary lunge by Surridge. could've easily been another Eriksen situation. ffs
Our deliveries from wide have been shocking. Shaw especially is capable of a lot better. Antony's been alright, he'd benefit a lot from a right-back with more quality on the ball. Casemiro's been poor defensively, easily beaten twice by Brennan Johnson which could've resulted in goals. Weghorst has to score his chance.
Am I missing something with these commentators. Forest would be happy with this performance and just keep doing the same? Utd need to do more and kill the tie? WE'RE 3-0 UP AND THERE'S 45 MINUTES LEFT. IT'S BAFFLING.
They are shit
Ten Hag playing Casemiro and Bruno every game - Flirting Ole playing Bruno and Maguire every game - Harrasment
If Ten Hag does it for 2-3 years, then we’ll talk
My thoughts are that Craig Burney has an exceptionally sandy vagina this evening. And his co-commentator clearly agrees lol. Get your shit together ESPN, literally everyone is talking about that moaning bitch instead of the actual game.
one of the 1st half of all times
Sub malacia, Sancho and martial on.
idk why they trying to push these women commentators so much. they almost never offer anything useful in commentary.
Honestly the male commentator has been just as bad if not worse tonight. It's not a gender issue it's just a shit commentator issue. I feel like there's only really a few commentators that are entertaining and interesting to listen to in general.
Your wrong there. Plenty of insight offered tonight. More than you could offer, I’d bet.
Biggest L I've seen in a while
Can we pass the ball to the wide open wing players faster?
An early ball into the box perhaps?
Hoping for goals but at this rate just hoping our players get through unscathed.
We haven't been creating enough goalscoring chances recently. Especially in the first half. Need Sancho in
I think we created some in the second though.
I like Bruno
Dead rubber game almost for sure, but poor performance with respect to the standards we are aspiring to reach and the potential quality of the team on the pitch
Sloppy
God whoever is commentating on BEIN is sad. Does he realise it’s a 2nd leg tie in the league cup where United are 3-0 up
I would like to say: referee is bad.
Was that shot from Dennis heading in? I know it was goalbound but was Martinez gonna get there to block?
Ass so far
I miss Ericksen already, hope Sabitzer will be better than pastor.
EtH is gonna be pissed with that, forest had the best chances of the half
Boring first half, but this is why ETH is playing them together, so they build up some sort of consistency and momentum.
Casemiro is so much better on the ball than i ever realised
Sancho second half hat trick.
Whoever that female commentator is, she's absolutely fucking insufferable. How she got a commentating job with that voice is beyond me, let blind people fly planes while we're at it. The ref & VAR are almost as bad.
We really need to give a player with Elanga's talent some more game time. Our wingers haven't been great today. Give the kid some minutes and not just garbage minutes. We saw how many teams wanted him. There's a reason for that.
WE NEED TEN HAG TO BE MORE ANIMATED ABOUT PENALTY DECISIONS. THERE IS SOME SERIOUS CORRUPTION WITH VAR GOING ON..