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Oliver and cook were the referees yesterday
It's possible to have different decisions from the on field ref neither of which is a "clear and obvious" error. It's basically umpires call in cricket
Wan Bissaka is not a good enough fullback. He always gets caught by crosses in behind, it's been the same for years now. This whole second half they've been targeting him with inswingers and outswingers
He's being played out of position, no surprise he's struggling with the angles of things. People give CBs sympathy for playing on their less preferred side, but it's 10x harder for a full back.
He makes the same mistake as right back too though lol. Really awful in the air dealing with crosses and often gets beat in behind. He's only good in 1v1 situations when the first attacker is in front of him. Teams figured it out a long time ago
He does it at RB too. There was a game against Leipzig in the Champions League under Ole when Sabitzer spammed balls in behind him and they got through again and again, ultimately knocking us out.
Out of position or not, it is basic for defenders to put their arms close to their body in the box or at least try to. Wan Bissaka spread his arm so wide I thought he was trying to fly or some shit.
He's absolutely crap, and has been since be got here. It is not acceptable to be a good one on one defender and nothing else.
It's shocking how long he's been here despite being below the level and shocking how many wklling defenders he's found for his mediocrity.
Penalties like the City Chelsea game.
Not sure what's with the downvotes. Dude asked if there is a replay, and I said no, it will end with penalties for semis.
Fucking illiterates.
His brother runs his mouth on social media and judging by Garnacho being upset at being subbed today, the fact he came off and then conceded 3 goals gives his brother plenty of shitpost material.
Exactly a lot has gone wrong today but subbing Garnacho off when he’s played so many minutes while we were 3-0 up was the right decision.
It’s already pathetic to imagine we’d need to keep Garnacho to keep a three goal lead.
Garnacho got in trouble for liking anti-ETH tweets
Think his brother might’ve been talkin my shit too
Turns out they’re both right and he’s a terrible manager
How’s that fair play? No matter how shit a manager is i ain’t going to back players or their families talking shit on social media, how’s that going to help? What kind of precedent does it set for the future? Just adds to player power doesn’t it.
That’s a penalty in today’s standards. If the teams were swapped you’d be screaming for that to be a penalty for us. Let’s not be silly now.
Edit: getting downvoted for this is funny. As if what I am saying is not true. Some of you are hilariously biased.
Not disagreeing with the inconsistency. Just saying for this particular example, it’s a penalty 99% of the time by today’s standards because his arms are clearly out.
I honestly I don’t think I would want a pen if the teams were swapped, from my perspective the defender is doing exactly what he’s supposed to do to not concede a pen but still does anyway, it’s bullshit.
Yeah… highly doubt that. If it was us everyone here would be agreeing it was a penalty because it is. Being 3-2 down in extra time in the semi finals with that incident happening. Nobody here is “turning down” that being a penalty especially when it’s clear as day like this one.
Well I'd have left Mainoo on unless his leg was hanging off given the state of our squad. But if the change had to be made, Eriksen at 6 and McTominay where he can actually contribute might have been less of a car crash.
Nah man heads need to roll after this implosion. Do not want to hear any bullshit injury excuse from Ten Hag ever again. How the fuck can you be good enough to score 3 goals and yet shit enough to concede 3 back to back? That's not on injuries, that's on tactics
Seems like every other game honestly. And we've been like this throughout the season.
How can we be at our worst when we're in a massive lead? It just doesn't make any sense to me.
It’s insane. AWB is playing out of position and needs more help when he’s getting rinsed on the left. At least sub one of Rashford or Hojlund off and add more security down that wing. Left both of them on to constantly make bad decision after bad decision and lose the ball cheaply.
Tactics? What are those? You’re supposed to just throw as many players forward as fast as possible and there’s *nothing else* to it right? Transition baby.
We allow teams to pour on pressure and get chance after chance, that's tactics and an inability to control a game to see it out. They shouldn't be getting put into the position to have to make such constant last ditch efforts
Coventry is currently matching us on attempts and chance creation. You're honestly telling me that we're playing an even game against a championship side and tactics aren't to be blamed for that?
You can continue to blame injuries, management, players, receptionist, gardener, etc.
The fact that yesterday everyone knew this would happen, that we would find it hard to beat a championship team, tells how much the standards have fallen and EtH is out of his depth.
It’s disgusting that we have fans who defend incompetence under the guise of some misplaced loyalty to the manager.
Ten Hag can walk after this for me.
Can’t back him after these subs.
I understand all the difficulties and personnel shit but as a manager know you need to control the game and see it out and completely tear up a team that’s working for no good reason. We’re battling on 0 fronts.
Joke of a penalty decision but how we just let them play after scoring 3 goals is absolutely mad and beyond me….. There is no saving this club im afraid
So you're telling me AWB was involved in two of their 3 goals, what's Ten Hag suppouse to do with players like this. You can bring Guardiola and even he woulnd't be able to make this dogshit players work
Guys pen or no pen we are S.H.I.T.E . we cannot hide behind those decisions. We are abject. Don’t look like we want to play this game or play football. This club is definitely dictated by players. That’s the only explanation to how poor we are on the pitch. Any other decent club, any poor performers would be benched for a couple of games. Here they start game after game . Slow slow passing, aimless shooting. I can’t remember the last game where there were any and I mean any meaningful tactics involved . I hope the hungrier team goes through.
Anyone who still supports ETH must be blind. The worst thing is that this isn’t even a surprise. If we keep him, we genuinely are in trouble of relegation.
More VAR consistency, obviously this is a penalty but the one against City wasn't..okay then.
Sorry, not every club is called Man City
115 reasons why it wasn't a penalty.
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Who fucking cares, we shouldn’t have to count on VAR after 90+5 when we were 3-0 up
United are shit, whats new... but every football fan should care about refereeing consistency
It’s not a pen though???
One was a shot on target, the other wasn't. Guess which was which?
It's possible to have different decisions from the on field ref neither of which is a "clear and obvious" error. It's basically umpires call in cricket
What a joke
Wan Bissaka is not a good enough fullback. He always gets caught by crosses in behind, it's been the same for years now. This whole second half they've been targeting him with inswingers and outswingers
He's being played out of position, no surprise he's struggling with the angles of things. People give CBs sympathy for playing on their less preferred side, but it's 10x harder for a full back.
He makes the same mistake as right back too though lol. Really awful in the air dealing with crosses and often gets beat in behind. He's only good in 1v1 situations when the first attacker is in front of him. Teams figured it out a long time ago
He does it at RB too. There was a game against Leipzig in the Champions League under Ole when Sabitzer spammed balls in behind him and they got through again and again, ultimately knocking us out.
Out of position or not, it is basic for defenders to put their arms close to their body in the box or at least try to. Wan Bissaka spread his arm so wide I thought he was trying to fly or some shit.
He was trying to get it behind his back, it should never have been a penalty
He’s always giving away penalties. Everyone a penalty is given away he is always on the scene.
Awful fullback, just not good enough for any top aspiring team
We aren’t a top aspiring team, mate.
He's absolutely crap, and has been since be got here. It is not acceptable to be a good one on one defender and nothing else. It's shocking how long he's been here despite being below the level and shocking how many wklling defenders he's found for his mediocrity.
Even if we win from here, he should be gone tomorrow morning. Disgraceful to throw it away.
He should honestly go tonight. I think he's done and he knows it
Sir Jim did a marathon. AWB can walk back to Manchester
I'd have sacked him before the team kicked off for extra time
Yea AWB definitely is one.
will this game be a replay now?
Extra time.
No, extra time
I thought FA cup fixtures were always a replay is this changed or is it because it is semi-finall?
Semifinals don’t have a replay
Changed a few years ago. Think it used to be two-legged semis
No replays this deep....and from now on no replays at all with the announcement last week.
Penalties like the City Chelsea game. Not sure what's with the downvotes. Dude asked if there is a replay, and I said no, it will end with penalties for semis. Fucking illiterates.
Grealish yesterday though…
And Ashley Young today!!
Garnacho's brother is gonna have a field day on social media today fair play.
I’m actually quite amazed how shit ETH has turned out to be
What’s the context please?
His brother runs his mouth on social media and judging by Garnacho being upset at being subbed today, the fact he came off and then conceded 3 goals gives his brother plenty of shitpost material.
Didn't his brother whine about Garnacho playing *too* much?
Exactly a lot has gone wrong today but subbing Garnacho off when he’s played so many minutes while we were 3-0 up was the right decision. It’s already pathetic to imagine we’d need to keep Garnacho to keep a three goal lead.
Oh yeah, definitely. It's just so interesting seeing Garnacho pissed being subbed and before that having read that he's been overplayed
Yeah maybe he’s the type that wants to play as much as possible or wasn’t happy with himself today and wanted to do more when he got subbed.
Him and Rashford’s brother should start a club.
Garnacho got in trouble for liking anti-ETH tweets Think his brother might’ve been talkin my shit too Turns out they’re both right and he’s a terrible manager
How’s that fair play? No matter how shit a manager is i ain’t going to back players or their families talking shit on social media, how’s that going to help? What kind of precedent does it set for the future? Just adds to player power doesn’t it.
How is this a good thing? Is it still a good thing when we get a new manager and he’s still doing it?
? Garnacho did not play well today..
Yep, that's my deepest fear confirmed.
AWB is literally putting his hand behind his back How TF is that cause for a pen
That’s a penalty in today’s standards. If the teams were swapped you’d be screaming for that to be a penalty for us. Let’s not be silly now. Edit: getting downvoted for this is funny. As if what I am saying is not true. Some of you are hilariously biased.
Possibly, the refs aren’t consistent with ANY decisions. Hence why people are pissed
We concede a penalty every game so it’s doing everyone’s head in at the minute
I get that mate, we are all witnessing the same things on this sub
Not disagreeing with the inconsistency. Just saying for this particular example, it’s a penalty 99% of the time by today’s standards because his arms are clearly out.
I honestly I don’t think I would want a pen if the teams were swapped, from my perspective the defender is doing exactly what he’s supposed to do to not concede a pen but still does anyway, it’s bullshit.
Yeah… highly doubt that. If it was us everyone here would be agreeing it was a penalty because it is. Being 3-2 down in extra time in the semi finals with that incident happening. Nobody here is “turning down” that being a penalty especially when it’s clear as day like this one.
Not really because all season, with that hand position, a penalty has *NOT* been given.
I don't think these usually get given, it's just the magic of the cup demands it has to be given.
It's okay guys, Coventry has better players, better board and better structure
better manager too apparently
Unironically Mark Robins is a legend though
Dreadful subs costs us the game
Heard this before
This. For the 3rd game in 4. Why the fuck would you put McTominay in at DM when you're just looking to see out a win? Absolute insanity.
Mainoo looked gassed and has been playing a lot. The only experienced player on the bench is Eriksen. Who would you have put on?
Gassed mainoo better then erikson clearly by the score line lol
Well I'd have left Mainoo on unless his leg was hanging off given the state of our squad. But if the change had to be made, Eriksen at 6 and McTominay where he can actually contribute might have been less of a car crash.
Nah man heads need to roll after this implosion. Do not want to hear any bullshit injury excuse from Ten Hag ever again. How the fuck can you be good enough to score 3 goals and yet shit enough to concede 3 back to back? That's not on injuries, that's on tactics
How many games have we bottled 2+ goal leads this season? Hilarious amount.
Seems like every other game honestly. And we've been like this throughout the season. How can we be at our worst when we're in a massive lead? It just doesn't make any sense to me.
He deserved to be sacked just for letting Rashford play for 96 minutes in this game. Amad played for 3 minutes and already did more than him.
It’s insane. AWB is playing out of position and needs more help when he’s getting rinsed on the left. At least sub one of Rashford or Hojlund off and add more security down that wing. Left both of them on to constantly make bad decision after bad decision and lose the ball cheaply.
This has to be the end of Ten Hag
> bullshit injury excuse The game changed when City made 4 subs. We made 2, and one of them was Eriksen.
Tactics? What are those? You’re supposed to just throw as many players forward as fast as possible and there’s *nothing else* to it right? Transition baby.
All 3 goals have been defensive errors, how is that on tactics?
That huge deflection is a defensive error?
That's on Onana, keeper is part of defense.
Errors are more likely when you're giving opponents opportunities to attack again and again
We allow teams to pour on pressure and get chance after chance, that's tactics and an inability to control a game to see it out. They shouldn't be getting put into the position to have to make such constant last ditch efforts
He’s playing a RB at LB, completely his own fault
No it’s coaching, which he’s also responsible for
He coached the team to handball it and deflect the ball in????
Do you not blame conceding chances on coaching and tactics? Or are that also player errors to you?
He’s not coaching them to keep the fucking ball and see the game out.
Coventry is currently matching us on attempts and chance creation. You're honestly telling me that we're playing an even game against a championship side and tactics aren't to be blamed for that?
Obviously that's on the tactics. Since the first goal we conceded the heads have dropped but the defense has to do better.
I’m actually happy… new owners getting to see how this team actually performs so they can see how big of an uphill battle they have ahead of them
Happy for this? Jesus Christ mate.
Yeah I said what I said
Omg sack them all
Absolute bullshit
Ten Hag has to go, win or not. This is pathetic
Sack ten hag before extra time
I give up
Bullshit call but we deserve this
Hahahahahahahah
This is a new low
Utterly embarrassing
Not complaining about the outcome, but surely if that's handball the one yesterday should have been?
It's like they made the decision on where his arm was instead of is, when it hit his arm it was behind his back.
Fade me
You can continue to blame injuries, management, players, receptionist, gardener, etc. The fact that yesterday everyone knew this would happen, that we would find it hard to beat a championship team, tells how much the standards have fallen and EtH is out of his depth. It’s disgusting that we have fans who defend incompetence under the guise of some misplaced loyalty to the manager.
Ahahahaha, what a bunch of donkeys.
Worst game of wan bissaka’s life.
Whenever we're winning I always tell my wife there's still time to fuck it up, I'm rarely proven wrong anymore
Yup, I'd say it's a disaster, but it's just typical United at this point
Marcus is an nightmare, psg pls take him off the pay bills asap
Fire Erik this is ridiculous
Where the fuck is he supposed to put his arms, no logic
Watery Rashford runs for the ditch like a rat on a rainy day
Ten Hag can walk after this for me. Can’t back him after these subs. I understand all the difficulties and personnel shit but as a manager know you need to control the game and see it out and completely tear up a team that’s working for no good reason. We’re battling on 0 fronts.
Can’t believe ten hag handballed it
You're still gonna defend him after we just threw away a 3-0 lead?
Can’t believe he came onto the pitch and deflected it in from 20 yards out, inexcusable
This team is so fucking weak it's unreal. Always capable of collapsing no matter what.
at this point it was even expexcted after 3-1 lol
Even at 3-0 uo I knew it could be coming lol This team has the mental strength of a cracker
I was this close to going to fucking sleep then we go and shit the bed and end up in extra time… fuck sake this is appalling
any video on the penalty decision?
does anyone have a link for the actual handball?
Win or lose, he should go.
If Ten Hag survives this, Ratcliffe and INEOS will have proven themselves to be cowards
SACK THIS FRAUD
Ten Hag is a disgrace and brings shame on this club, he dishonours the club and everything it stands for.
i'm sorry guys, i'm just laughing my ass off right now, it's beyond belief
Oh do fuck off
Thomas had never seen such bullshit
can we stop fucking self destructing :|
I have become some numb of this season.
Wtf going on
Clowns
What is this???
Im so glad all the big people are here to see this bullshit
Time and time again, this group has the ability to play at the opposition’s level. Astonishing
We’ve given away a 3-0 lead to Coventry. COVENTRY. Where’s the game management? Shutting up shop? He’s tactically inept.
This is the end of us. Blow it up now
Only United can fucked up this bad
AWB is pish.
Fucking LOL Specialists, this setup and tactics allow this to happen every game.
Anyone have a replay of the incident
Embarrassing
Wtfff
Eth will be gone tmr morning for sure, he has embarrassed himself way beyond
We can't get Ten Hag out of this club any sooner.
Joke of a penalty decision but how we just let them play after scoring 3 goals is absolutely mad and beyond me….. There is no saving this club im afraid
Hilarious
We are terrible
I laughed when the pen was given. Wasn't even surprising. The team is that bad
So you're telling me AWB was involved in two of their 3 goals, what's Ten Hag suppouse to do with players like this. You can bring Guardiola and even he woulnd't be able to make this dogshit players work
Classic
I'm so tired..
These players are awful. Despise everyone of them. Sell’em all.
Strange how we bring on Antony and bring off Mainoo and we implode.
What the fuck
Garnacho off, Mainoo off 3 goals within 25 min...
We were up 3-0, I went back to sleep and woke up to this shit? Against Coventry??? This is fucking embarrassing
Fuck this sport.
Guys pen or no pen we are S.H.I.T.E . we cannot hide behind those decisions. We are abject. Don’t look like we want to play this game or play football. This club is definitely dictated by players. That’s the only explanation to how poor we are on the pitch. Any other decent club, any poor performers would be benched for a couple of games. Here they start game after game . Slow slow passing, aimless shooting. I can’t remember the last game where there were any and I mean any meaningful tactics involved . I hope the hungrier team goes through.
Sack him tonight idgaf
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I just can’t watch Rashford play. I want to but I really can’t - in his current form he reminds me of Sancho.
Yeah sack him now
Nah he has to go. This is beyond a joke now
Anyone who still supports ETH must be blind. The worst thing is that this isn’t even a surprise. If we keep him, we genuinely are in trouble of relegation.
[SEND IN THE FUCKING CLOWNS](https://youtu.be/ZG15oP7q4fI?si=785lxUZXSL-VoV2X)
I'm back in that part of the managerial cycle where a small part of me starts to hope we lose so the manager gets sacked sooner
hahahah
Coventry doing miracle of Istanbul 2005🥲.
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Nah it's funny seeing people exposed themselves as morbidly online gimps