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They don’t call the Mississippi River “Muddy” for nothing. (Yes I know it ends in Louisiana, maybe Louisiana should be the butthole, Mississippi the taint, Alabama the nutsack, and Florida the giant cock)
Some people think that; it's called pantheism.
Also. More importantly. This comic represents the fundamental misunderstanding of atheism that many, many religious people have. This is why they call us satanists and things of that nature that imply an organization which is an enemy or opposite of their organization.
They just can't get their head around the concept of how someone doesn't believe in something. We must "hate God" or be "mad at God" like in that god-awful *God's Not Dead* movie where it turns out the atheist professor who forces students to denounce God is actually *not* atheist, he's just super mad at God because something horrible happened to him.
If not that, then we must hate them, or be mad at them, and we must all get together and have meetings and anti-pray to anti-god or plot to destroy them or *something.*
If any religious people are reading this please get this through your head once and for all. By and large atheists do not have any meetings and we **definitely don't worship** "evil" deities. We just don't go to *your* meetings, and we've opted out of worshipping **any** deity. That's what the word means. That's all it is. Literally **a nothing** where you have **a something.**
It's not Satanism, it's not pedophilia, it's not an attack on your belief system, it's just regular, normal people who don't go to church. I don't even know which of my friends are atheists and I couldn't care less.
The only time we're ever compelled to organize anything is when religious people start pushing their beliefs into legislation or policies that will force us to behave in line with *their* religion. Shit like making "sodomy," or birth control, or abortion, or recreational sex illegal, or forcing kids to pray in school, or adults to participate in prayers in government institutions, or at work.
Leave us alone and ***I promise you*** we'll leave you alone.
There's a reason you've never walked out of a church and had to pass through a bunch of atheists outside protesting it.
I'll give it a shot.
This analogy falls apart because the *dog:*
1. Does not have a dogma he wants the fleas to live by that he passed down in a confusing and contradictory set of books during the bronze age
2. Does not answer prayers
3. Is materially observable by any scientifically minded fleas
In fact, for the fleas to even *know* about the dog, they would have had to conduct crude research, perhaps mapping out parts of its body and comparing notes.
Point being, the dog is:
- materially, observably real, and
- has no dictates
- makes no claims about an afterlife
Whereas the Christian god:
- is not materially, observably real,
- is said to have a great many dictates in books that were written by humans a millennium ago, and
- is said to live in a hidden happy place that can only be seen by the dead
There, done. :D
>2. Does not answer prayers
The dog absolutely answers prayers. It's just that vigorous scratching probably isn't the answer they were wanting. Mysterious ways and all that.
Obviously I agree with you, it's just an analogy for people who are "believers" and don't even think about the fact that the dog's existence could be proofen.
But for point 1 one could argue that ancient advanced flea civilizations with enough scientific knowledge (that vanished over time) to find out about the dog were the ones who produced the ancient set of books. And these books are just confusing and contradictory because scientific progress is fuzzy in general, the books are just bad copies of copies and each reprinting author added his own agenda/theories and today's fleas lack the knowledge to actually understand the underlying science.
This would only work if atheists denied earth exists lmao.
“What proof do we have that we and this dog we live on were created by an all powerful creator that exists outside of time and space?”-🪳
I kinda enjoyed this one ngl. Don’t get me wrong it’s not really funny, and it is a shitty take, but I do think the Ath-flea-ist pun is cute. It kinda feels like what a grandma would send without realizing what it‘s supposed to be/mean. It’s cute.
Yeah honestly this seems like a harmless joke/play on words. It's not offensive unless you're looking for a reason to be offended.
People have the right to believe what they want to believe and they can make boomer memes about it if they want to lol.
"several mice live inside a piano who's owner plays along with a quartet.
they explore and find all the mechanisms for the piano's sound, and conclude that it must be the source of all the instrument sounds. But the other instruments play on regardless."
So now that i've made a pithy allegory, guess everyone present has to believe in a pantheon religion now
jfc
these are the kind of people who believe when the earth shakes it's because we've done something to irritate their god so maybe this actually makes sense to them.
OMFG. When humans were primitive, our beliefs were farfetched. Now that humans have smartphones, our beliefs are returning to being primitive again. Have we peaked?
yk how i find it so not good that people feel the need to force religion on people i couldn’t care less what you believe as ling as you don’t criticise me for not wanting to not believe in that
I think the meaning behind this is that “everything around us” is thanks to God and it’s all his creation. A scientifically illiterate standpoint, still doesn’t prove WHICH God exists. I love pointing this out to Bible thumpers, you’re arguing for a theistic worldview, not YOUR God’s existence.
This would make since if it was a joke about flat earthers maybe but pretty much all flat earthers are Christian and the bible calls Earth a disc at one point.
Ok, the “ath-flea-ist” pun is actually kind of funny, and I understand this isn’t the point but…..
The “a-“ in atheism means “without”, and the “theism” refers to a belief in god/gods. According to the rules of English and my best interpretation, “athfleaism” would mean either not believing in the existence of fleas (or that’d be just a-fleaism), or not believing in the existence of Flea God (ath-flea-ism).
Maybe they meant anti-canine-ism.
If we are made in gods image why am I not a round wet ball of rock??????????????
Also the gigantic dog claws scraping the colony from time to time would be a dead giveaway.
Fucking morons.
That’s a below average pun, not really well thought out. Ath-flea-ist (or A-flea-ist as it should have been) is equivalent to A-human-ist. As in they don’t believe that they themselves exist. A better one would be A-Canine-ist, but that isn’t close to Atheist.
Before you ask: Yes I am fun at parties 😑
The funniest part is that they don't realize that this depiction is way more in line with flat-earthers (who are usually reallyyy religious) than with atheists
That's actually spot on. Fleas have no way of knowing if there is or isn't a dog, or even of comprehending what a dog is. They suffer the vicissitudes of their situation, and die in a flea bath without ever understanding why.
I mean, they might be living on an antelope in Africa and never been close to even wild dogs there, sooo they might be correct that they have no good reason to believe in a dog.
Now imagine if they start making rules about what the dog wants from them that isn’t just to die and leave it alone. I don’t think this really makes the point they think it is making.
You guys are awfully literal.
Fleas don't have the capacity to understand that they're on a dog, the same as humans having a capability of understanding of a God (per the comics point).
The fleas are anthropomorphised to make the point, so you can't say a talking flea should be able to conduct science to be on a dog.
It's an argument for Agnotism really.
I'm an atheist, but I heard an interesting idea somewhere (probably a Wendigoon video) that having free will is part of God's design. I like the idea that if there is a god, they're just watching to see what happens and if I'm wrong about what happens when I die, I'll be judged by if I was a good person rather than if I was part of the right book club.
Okay, so what it's trying to convey is that atheists are blind to the obvious. That's it. That's the whole argument. It's just a different version of "Look at the trees!" I might as well say that they see what isn't there without elaborating further.
What they constantly get wrong is that, even if "dog" was real, the time to affirm is AFTER demonstration. The danger of presuppositions is that you can assume anything and mean nothing even if you may be right.
We also don't know if Odin exists. Or Zues. Or Krishna. Or Thor and Loki.
Whatever argument you could make for "maybe we just can't understand God's existence" is the same *exact* argument for every other deity out there. It's as silly as Pascal's wager.
Yeah I used “god” with a small g, I mean we just don’t know if we were engineered or just happened to exist.
Ps. By we I mean life on earth and not just humans.
"We just don't know if we're engineered..."
We can tell, with about 100% accuracy that we have most certainly evolved. It's not a question. All of the data and evidence points to evolution. It's only a question to people who want to believe it's a question and avoid any evidence.
Evolution is real, but how did life start?
How did we go from something we consider inanimate to something animate. If you look at the most fundamentals of life it’s a system, working together, how did it get to working together, was it just a coincidence (possible) but it’s not certain.
Let’s go even further back, why did the Big Bang happen, coincidence (possible, likely too) but we aren’t certain. It’s uncertain.
So coming back to this image, it’s a social commentary, it shows how flees don’t believe in the existence of the dog. From their perspective it’s even an absolute truth that a dog exists, but they are uncertain. So when people who believe in science which itself is uncertain when it comes to the beginning of life, or the beginning of time, its hard core believers use it to state that we aren’t created as an absolute truth.
Of course this page is filled with people who don’t like uncertainties.
Abiogenesis is the leading theory for "how did life start." It's been proven that inorganic compounds can form into more complex compounds naturally. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DGeochemical_and_fossil_evidence_from%2C3.8_Gya_from_Western_Australia.?wprov=sfla1
And asking "what was before the big bang" is usually described as asking, "What time was it before time started?"
And any science minded person is *absolutely* okay with saying, "we don't really know, yet." But we've become shy from saying that because weirdos love screaming,"AHA THATS GOD YOU FKN IDIOT, " and then pretend they won some sort of prize when we do say that.
Your final sentence is true, but no human being likes uncertainties. It's a natural, *evolved* part of being a human. The entirety of religion likely came from a disdain of uncertainty. "How did Bob die? All he did was eat some pork and masturbate. I guess god doesn't want us to eat pork or masturbate."
Abiogenesis is a hypothesis, it’s still not proved.
And yes, the question of what was before time itself is a very intriguing question. Nothing existed, and everything existed in a matter of milli seconds, it breaks the fundamentals of conservation of energy itself, it makes you think.
I am not saying with absolute certainty that a creator exists, but the possibility isn’t zero. And that’s exactly what this post shows, it’s a commentary on the fact that “flees” are easily dismissing the possibility of the existence of the “dog”….i mean yes it’s not a perfect analogy, it’s a good comparison, because at the base of things, even if it’s an evolutionary trait for humans to not like uncertainties, there are limitations to our level perception and unfortunately we’ll never know.
I’m not here to defend the idiots who think their form of religion and practices are the true ones, I personally am more of a science person and a spiritual person. And believe that all religion have only one message and that is for a person to live a righteous life and I embrace the uncertainty of our beginning.
It's a theory, not a hypothesis. A hypothesis is a "decent guess." A theory is what is most likely correct, based off of all available evidence. And it's kinda disingenuous to say, "abiogensis isn't proven, just a guess" while also saying, "hey guys, there isn't a 100% guarantee there's no deity." At least abiogensis has actual evidence, and many of the required steps have been proven in lab settings. Something that can not be said about a deity.
And the analogy in the image is not a good one. Those flees are literally standing on the thing they are saying doesn't exist. The only thing this image would work for is for people who don't believe the Earth is real. Those flees are *surrounded* by evidence of the dog. Human beings have been looking for evidence of a deity for millenia and always fall short of finding it.
I get that you *want* the image to be pithy and intelligent, it's just not. It's a miss.
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Didn't know that earth was god
Gaia theory ftw
At least the Earth is real
r/noearthsociety
They gotta be trolling right? I mean no way are they serious
If earth is real then why can’t we see it in the sky with all the other planets? 🙄
And we can agree that she's flat, but not the other planets, those are misshapen as my ass
Whatever happened to no god's before me huh?? Weird how this meme is actually pro other gods xD
I am invincible, for I am Gaia
Seems 5% more reasonable than most other God beliefs.
I hear Florida is God’s butthole
No, Florida is the dick, Alabama the taint and Mississippi the butthole
Does god have diarrhea or something?
They don’t call the Mississippi River “Muddy” for nothing. (Yes I know it ends in Louisiana, maybe Louisiana should be the butthole, Mississippi the taint, Alabama the nutsack, and Florida the giant cock)
What does that make Italy?
The tonsils, and they are infected and desperately need removed
Alabama can’t be the taint because the tiniest ballsack you’ve ever seen dangles off its southwestern edge.
I didn't know dogs created fleas
Oh no, trees are it's pubes, huh?
Giant sea turtle floating through space confirmed
It's turtles all the way down.
Don't forget the elephants.
Some people think that; it's called pantheism. Also. More importantly. This comic represents the fundamental misunderstanding of atheism that many, many religious people have. This is why they call us satanists and things of that nature that imply an organization which is an enemy or opposite of their organization. They just can't get their head around the concept of how someone doesn't believe in something. We must "hate God" or be "mad at God" like in that god-awful *God's Not Dead* movie where it turns out the atheist professor who forces students to denounce God is actually *not* atheist, he's just super mad at God because something horrible happened to him. If not that, then we must hate them, or be mad at them, and we must all get together and have meetings and anti-pray to anti-god or plot to destroy them or *something.* If any religious people are reading this please get this through your head once and for all. By and large atheists do not have any meetings and we **definitely don't worship** "evil" deities. We just don't go to *your* meetings, and we've opted out of worshipping **any** deity. That's what the word means. That's all it is. Literally **a nothing** where you have **a something.** It's not Satanism, it's not pedophilia, it's not an attack on your belief system, it's just regular, normal people who don't go to church. I don't even know which of my friends are atheists and I couldn't care less. The only time we're ever compelled to organize anything is when religious people start pushing their beliefs into legislation or policies that will force us to behave in line with *their* religion. Shit like making "sodomy," or birth control, or abortion, or recreational sex illegal, or forcing kids to pray in school, or adults to participate in prayers in government institutions, or at work. Leave us alone and ***I promise you*** we'll leave you alone. There's a reason you've never walked out of a church and had to pass through a bunch of atheists outside protesting it.
"Why does there have to be a creator?" short-circuits their brains, allowing you to escape any religious argument.
This is a good compromise. Everyone wins
Maybe if we convince them it is god, they will try harder to take care of it lol.
It’s special pleading, plus, “just look at the trees!”
God is actually a dog, silly people just spelled it backwards, ALL SHALL WORSHIP THE PUPPIES!
What did you think the Greeks believed in?
Spinoza: Am I a joke to you?
It’s clearly Unicron
You clearly haven’t watched enough futurama
I only watched the SnuSnu episode 😂
Do we live on god? Was the great flood just him having a bath?
He must be really nasty if he hasn't taken a bath in thousands of years.
I mean if we're going with this logic he's covered in dirt and saltwater so
Ohhhh, he's a salty beach
Explains why everything on him is so sucky
He exists outside of time so there's difference between him bathing once a day or once an eon.
That's why we haven't had another one. The last time he forgot about us and was like "Oh shit!" When he realized what he had done 🤣
The parallels to a flea bath are troubling.
Panteism
So earthquakes is the god scratching something?
Yeah, Niagara Falls is him pissing and the Grand Canyon is his ass crack
Volcanic eruptions are pimples popping
Are volcanoes God’s form of spicy diarrhoea?
The quick shits would be a mud slide
It all made sense now! He wanted to have a little play boat thingy for hiw bath when the flood happened. That sick ( clean) SOB!
Reminds me of Xenoblade on the wii. The land you lived on was literally the carcass of a god. Super metal.
>Do we live on god? Yeah. And we're ~~sticking~~ sucking ts blood in order to live. Edit: word
Wouldn't Earth be technically our god, atheist or not, that's how i see it
Yeah, how do we know they're on a dog? they could be on a cat or human
The government is lying to you. The dog is flat.
I'll give it a shot. This analogy falls apart because the *dog:* 1. Does not have a dogma he wants the fleas to live by that he passed down in a confusing and contradictory set of books during the bronze age 2. Does not answer prayers 3. Is materially observable by any scientifically minded fleas In fact, for the fleas to even *know* about the dog, they would have had to conduct crude research, perhaps mapping out parts of its body and comparing notes. Point being, the dog is: - materially, observably real, and - has no dictates - makes no claims about an afterlife Whereas the Christian god: - is not materially, observably real, - is said to have a great many dictates in books that were written by humans a millennium ago, and - is said to live in a hidden happy place that can only be seen by the dead There, done. :D
> Does not have a dogma I think your argument falls apart because I am sure the dog had a mother. Thus, it had a dog-ma. I'll show myself out.
Touché.
That dog-ma was such a bitch too.
I hoped someone would add that :D have my upbark, dawg
I applaud this pun.
The comic is a much better metaphor for flat earthers
The whole thing is actually a better analogy for creationists. The evidence of evolution is all around them, yet they doggedly insist it can't exist!
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no…. ‘Cuz dog is GOD BACKWARDS. Checkmate, Ath-flea-ists😤
Ive always found logic and reasoning isn’t what fruitcakes look for, rather it’s false logic and reasoning - if it confirms their bias.
Also, should be Acanineist or Adogist but the theist part of atheist is not just aesthetic, it refers to what atheists don't believe in or god (s)
Not to mention that actual flees can and do jump off and onto an animal. The dog isn't their whole world.
>2. Does not answer prayers The dog absolutely answers prayers. It's just that vigorous scratching probably isn't the answer they were wanting. Mysterious ways and all that.
Obviously I agree with you, it's just an analogy for people who are "believers" and don't even think about the fact that the dog's existence could be proofen. But for point 1 one could argue that ancient advanced flea civilizations with enough scientific knowledge (that vanished over time) to find out about the dog were the ones who produced the ancient set of books. And these books are just confusing and contradictory because scientific progress is fuzzy in general, the books are just bad copies of copies and each reprinting author added his own agenda/theories and today's fleas lack the knowledge to actually understand the underlying science.
How about how "ath-flea-ist" would imply that they don't believe in fleas or maybe a flea deity?
Equivalence is what proof do we have there is an earth
If anything it’s more akin to a flatearth argument. Denial of what you live on, and all of science.
This would only work if atheists denied earth exists lmao. “What proof do we have that we and this dog we live on were created by an all powerful creator that exists outside of time and space?”-🪳
Theists can't even seen to define God..
Apparently we live on god
Maybe God is Dog.
Also if God came down from heaven and could explain shit atheists would convert.
We don't have to believe in Earth, we already know it exists. There is no reason to believe God exists or created the universe without proof.
Haha get it? Because god is everywhere???!😂😂😂
And also nowhere to be found at the same time! How convenient.
The trees are gods pubes?
And Mauna Loa is his asshole
wtf is the logic here? Dogs create fleas? Fking morons
I kinda enjoyed this one ngl. Don’t get me wrong it’s not really funny, and it is a shitty take, but I do think the Ath-flea-ist pun is cute. It kinda feels like what a grandma would send without realizing what it‘s supposed to be/mean. It’s cute.
Yeah honestly this seems like a harmless joke/play on words. It's not offensive unless you're looking for a reason to be offended. People have the right to believe what they want to believe and they can make boomer memes about it if they want to lol.
Exactly lol. This is just some harmless fun
"several mice live inside a piano who's owner plays along with a quartet. they explore and find all the mechanisms for the piano's sound, and conclude that it must be the source of all the instrument sounds. But the other instruments play on regardless." So now that i've made a pithy allegory, guess everyone present has to believe in a pantheon religion now
How come I'm never invited to the Atheist conventions?
All Christian metaphors will continue to be false dichotomies until they only use intangible, imperceptible objects in place of god
jfc these are the kind of people who believe when the earth shakes it's because we've done something to irritate their god so maybe this actually makes sense to them.
OMFG. When humans were primitive, our beliefs were farfetched. Now that humans have smartphones, our beliefs are returning to being primitive again. Have we peaked?
It is funny because the fleas are dyslexic? 
So we are gods parasites?
So god is Gaia now? Jesus they need to stick to one or their gonna invalidate themselves form all religions using their own logic
I love these analogies. Whether or not they believe in a dog doesn’t designate them burning in hell forever either.
forgot we live on gods skin, my bad
yk how i find it so not good that people feel the need to force religion on people i couldn’t care less what you believe as ling as you don’t criticise me for not wanting to not believe in that
Plot twist: they’re on a cat
The only thing that makes sense here is that atheist rhyme with a-flea-ist
I think the meaning behind this is that “everything around us” is thanks to God and it’s all his creation. A scientifically illiterate standpoint, still doesn’t prove WHICH God exists. I love pointing this out to Bible thumpers, you’re arguing for a theistic worldview, not YOUR God’s existence.
This would make since if it was a joke about flat earthers maybe but pretty much all flat earthers are Christian and the bible calls Earth a disc at one point.
Ok, the “ath-flea-ist” pun is actually kind of funny, and I understand this isn’t the point but….. The “a-“ in atheism means “without”, and the “theism” refers to a belief in god/gods. According to the rules of English and my best interpretation, “athfleaism” would mean either not believing in the existence of fleas (or that’d be just a-fleaism), or not believing in the existence of Flea God (ath-flea-ism). Maybe they meant anti-canine-ism.
I just made a similar comment. If there’s an r/PunPolice sub we should probably join it 😂
Haha you’re right!
Reminds me of that one episode of Futurama where bender becomes a god of a tiny civilization.
Godfellas. One of their best episodes.
Classic Christians stealing shit from other religions. Now they're making God into Gaea
Exactly! Another version of god.
the flea is dyslexic
Do fleas exist only on dogs?
If we are made in gods image why am I not a round wet ball of rock?????????????? Also the gigantic dog claws scraping the colony from time to time would be a dead giveaway. Fucking morons.
Oh shit, I'm a believer now
I didn’t know that atheists didn’t believe there was an Earth.
Or that theists believed the earth was a god
I dun know, I think it's kinda funny.
As stupid as this meme is I find it hilarious lmao!
What I'm getting from this is that they are Greek mythology believers in denial.
So much worldbuilding in one image
why r they sitting like that
Look around you, Dog is everywhere
"What proof do we have there's a planet earth?"
That’s a below average pun, not really well thought out. Ath-flea-ist (or A-flea-ist as it should have been) is equivalent to A-human-ist. As in they don’t believe that they themselves exist. A better one would be A-Canine-ist, but that isn’t close to Atheist. Before you ask: Yes I am fun at parties 😑
Plot twist: There are more than one dog.
Ah…. It would be A- not Ath- like seriously…. 🤦♂️
This is more like a flat earth thing.
The funniest part is that they don't realize that this depiction is way more in line with flat-earthers (who are usually reallyyy religious) than with atheists
Well, if Earth is God, then why are they so against believing in global warming? Guess I wouldn’t want to admit I killed my God either.
Are they trying to say the earth is God? Because that's some hippie dippy New Age Gaia shit right there.
this is so dumb omg 😭😭😭
What proof do we have there is a dog indeed? This could very well be a cat or a human
I have to admit! That's kinda funny!
It seems like a pretty innocent play on words. It's unfortunate that everyone seems to be reading a bit too deep into its meaning.
Surprisingly I haven’t compared the human race to fleas as often as I perhaps should.
So if what I gather is correct, we are living in gods hair?
That's actually spot on. Fleas have no way of knowing if there is or isn't a dog, or even of comprehending what a dog is. They suffer the vicissitudes of their situation, and die in a flea bath without ever understanding why.
You can fall off the dog, and then literally see the dog.
Checkmate Lincolnite!
I'm agnostic, and also dyslexic. I wonder if there really is a dog.
I mean, they might be living on an antelope in Africa and never been close to even wild dogs there, sooo they might be correct that they have no good reason to believe in a dog. Now imagine if they start making rules about what the dog wants from them that isn’t just to die and leave it alone. I don’t think this really makes the point they think it is making.
so we live in god’s head lice? that makes sense LMAO
So if I dig a hole in the ground and put my junk in it?
Barking up the wrong tree here; this is just "This Is Water" for someone who's never read it before.
Pretty sure atheists believe in the planet Earth. It certainly helps that you can see it.
It's more analogous to flat earthers. Who are also almost always religious interestingly...
The earth is a giant person confirmed. Fuck flat earth theory I'm subscribing to a god shaped earth.
Tickets literally leave and propagate onto other victims.. They'd know... Its a very bad example.. but we all see it lol.
As an atheist, I now understand that I live on gods ball sack
You guys are awfully literal. Fleas don't have the capacity to understand that they're on a dog, the same as humans having a capability of understanding of a God (per the comics point). The fleas are anthropomorphised to make the point, so you can't say a talking flea should be able to conduct science to be on a dog. It's an argument for Agnotism really.
props for the funny pun
Not the worst argument I’ve heard though
They’re making it look like they’re n@zis
They act like their proof is so obvious. Please, please show me.
Do flees kill other fleas because according to one group, a golden retriever is the true dog and the other thinks it's a poodle?
the message of the meme is shitty but athfleaist is a banging pun
Dog look up
South Park did it first
At first I þought this was shitting on flat-earþers
This reminds me of that one South Park episode
It's Angelina Jolie?
What does a dyslexic, agnostic, insomniac do? Stay up all night wondering if there really is a dog.
I'm an atheist, but I heard an interesting idea somewhere (probably a Wendigoon video) that having free will is part of God's design. I like the idea that if there is a god, they're just watching to see what happens and if I'm wrong about what happens when I die, I'll be judged by if I was a good person rather than if I was part of the right book club.
Dog damn! That afleaist makes a good point. I’m going back to church.
Oh I get it, Christians are fleas on the back of their god
So god IS the universe? Then I‘m officially a believer now. Still I‘m pretty sure, that’s not what most of the religions believe in.
Well, it could be a human or any other mamal really. The fleas don't have any way of knowing what they are living on or what life outside is like.
Okay, so what it's trying to convey is that atheists are blind to the obvious. That's it. That's the whole argument. It's just a different version of "Look at the trees!" I might as well say that they see what isn't there without elaborating further.
Yes, what's the proof that there's a dog? It could be a cat, or a monkey, or literally any mammalian, or they could live on the ground.
What they constantly get wrong is that, even if "dog" was real, the time to affirm is AFTER demonstration. The danger of presuppositions is that you can assume anything and mean nothing even if you may be right.
It would make more sense if the fleas were flat earthers
Even the mighty Baruch Spinoza offered Pantheism as a compromise. I can live with it.
dont compare gods to gods creation, isnt that on the bible or smth
Idk this one is funny
That’s true tho
What is?
I mean we just don’t know about “god’s” existence
We also don't know if Odin exists. Or Zues. Or Krishna. Or Thor and Loki. Whatever argument you could make for "maybe we just can't understand God's existence" is the same *exact* argument for every other deity out there. It's as silly as Pascal's wager.
Yeah I used “god” with a small g, I mean we just don’t know if we were engineered or just happened to exist. Ps. By we I mean life on earth and not just humans.
It's incorrect tho you can't see gods but a dog is fully visible
Bruh, you clearly didn’t understand the metaphor
"We just don't know if we're engineered..." We can tell, with about 100% accuracy that we have most certainly evolved. It's not a question. All of the data and evidence points to evolution. It's only a question to people who want to believe it's a question and avoid any evidence.
Evolution is real, but how did life start? How did we go from something we consider inanimate to something animate. If you look at the most fundamentals of life it’s a system, working together, how did it get to working together, was it just a coincidence (possible) but it’s not certain. Let’s go even further back, why did the Big Bang happen, coincidence (possible, likely too) but we aren’t certain. It’s uncertain. So coming back to this image, it’s a social commentary, it shows how flees don’t believe in the existence of the dog. From their perspective it’s even an absolute truth that a dog exists, but they are uncertain. So when people who believe in science which itself is uncertain when it comes to the beginning of life, or the beginning of time, its hard core believers use it to state that we aren’t created as an absolute truth. Of course this page is filled with people who don’t like uncertainties.
Abiogenesis is the leading theory for "how did life start." It's been proven that inorganic compounds can form into more complex compounds naturally. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DGeochemical_and_fossil_evidence_from%2C3.8_Gya_from_Western_Australia.?wprov=sfla1 And asking "what was before the big bang" is usually described as asking, "What time was it before time started?" And any science minded person is *absolutely* okay with saying, "we don't really know, yet." But we've become shy from saying that because weirdos love screaming,"AHA THATS GOD YOU FKN IDIOT, " and then pretend they won some sort of prize when we do say that. Your final sentence is true, but no human being likes uncertainties. It's a natural, *evolved* part of being a human. The entirety of religion likely came from a disdain of uncertainty. "How did Bob die? All he did was eat some pork and masturbate. I guess god doesn't want us to eat pork or masturbate."
Abiogenesis is a hypothesis, it’s still not proved. And yes, the question of what was before time itself is a very intriguing question. Nothing existed, and everything existed in a matter of milli seconds, it breaks the fundamentals of conservation of energy itself, it makes you think. I am not saying with absolute certainty that a creator exists, but the possibility isn’t zero. And that’s exactly what this post shows, it’s a commentary on the fact that “flees” are easily dismissing the possibility of the existence of the “dog”….i mean yes it’s not a perfect analogy, it’s a good comparison, because at the base of things, even if it’s an evolutionary trait for humans to not like uncertainties, there are limitations to our level perception and unfortunately we’ll never know. I’m not here to defend the idiots who think their form of religion and practices are the true ones, I personally am more of a science person and a spiritual person. And believe that all religion have only one message and that is for a person to live a righteous life and I embrace the uncertainty of our beginning.
It's a theory, not a hypothesis. A hypothesis is a "decent guess." A theory is what is most likely correct, based off of all available evidence. And it's kinda disingenuous to say, "abiogensis isn't proven, just a guess" while also saying, "hey guys, there isn't a 100% guarantee there's no deity." At least abiogensis has actual evidence, and many of the required steps have been proven in lab settings. Something that can not be said about a deity. And the analogy in the image is not a good one. Those flees are literally standing on the thing they are saying doesn't exist. The only thing this image would work for is for people who don't believe the Earth is real. Those flees are *surrounded* by evidence of the dog. Human beings have been looking for evidence of a deity for millenia and always fall short of finding it. I get that you *want* the image to be pithy and intelligent, it's just not. It's a miss.