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Itās probably because Iām not working towards any big goals other than keeping myself moving, so if I put in a shit performance, no big deal. But.Ā
I went out this morning and the misery the weather induced was the best high Iāve had in a long time.Ā
Im conflicted. On one hand I hate having to plan my runs around snow and ice (Colorado). On the other hand the running itself is so much easier than long sessions in summer heat.
I find the hardest part of winter running is just convincing myself to step out the door. When I am inside and warm I am convinced that I will be cold and miserable during my run. Once I get out and start moving I am never as cold as I thought I would be. After that I usually start to enjoy my run.
I undress in the shower when I run or play soccer in the summer. That initial rinse goes a long way. Also great for hats if you're a serial sweat stain hat ruiner like myself.
I yearn for the freezing temperatures to crystallize the sweat to my body. I'm a regular Jack Frost type.
But also, it's nice not having to thaw myself out for a change.
It has finally dawned on me why Iāve been so dang cranky and irritable and anxiety-ridden the last two or so weeks. Hello Summer Seasonal Affective Disorder my old friend.
Why am I oiled up with Vaseline and still chafing in all my ladybits....oh....because its fucking florida and it's hot and I'm becoming a salt mine thats why.
On the bright side, I got a new watch about a month ago, so Iāve hit back-to-back āNew maximum heart rate!ā achievements on my last two runs (running a very uninspiring pace, I might add)
It's June and in Belgium it still feels like October, it's been raining non stop for 6 months, we only had like 5 days of sun in 2024... I wanna die too
Going through a heat wave this week in southern Ontarioā¦no central AC in my apartment. Everytime someone says āI bet itās always cold in Canadaā I combust and cry in global warming.
It was already +35 today at 8am and why does it thunderstorm every hour? But it just gets hotter and muggier? Why do I suddenly live in Florida?
As a trail runner, most of my favorite trails are overgrown now and running on them just isn't possible.
And yes, I do volunteer trail work with local groups a couple of times a month. But my favorite trails are the more remote ones without a lot of traffic and the maintenance crews just don't have time to deal with them. And I just don't have enough time to weed whack 5 miles of trail myself, especially considering it's a 5 mile hike to get to that 5 mile section of trail.
So I will wait until early winter to hit these trails again.
Hydration is a before activity as much as during and after. I force myself to drink half a litre of water when I wake up to set myself up for the rest of the day.
Agree on the 500ml of water when you get up. I thought my wife was crazy when she told me to do this, but it stopped me getting a headache after early morning exercise.
As a HS XC coach here is my speech:
>Everything we do this week is zone 5 because your body hates the heat. Show up hydrated and no one is allowed to walk home afterwards, so get a ride. If you arenāt here, I will never ever hold it against you because I promise you that I donāt want to be running with you but I will anyway. Ā
I am able to change my schedule a bit so I will be doing morning runs before work, it's annoying but doable.
Regardless, I have decided to invest more time indoors doing strength training instead so hopefully I will come out in October in my best shape ever!
Yesterday I went out for a warmup run in the morning, and it was cloudy, warm, and a bit humid when I left. Everything was fine until the clouds parted and the temperature jumped by around 5-6 degrees (at least). Things went pretty quickly from fine to hard, and it didn't help that this coincided with a long climb portion of the loop. It was a good reminder from my desert days that the sun makes a big difference.
Slowed things right down at that point and was able to keep things manageable for the rest of the warmup at least. I've learned over the years (the hard way) to modify my workouts based on various changing conditions and how I'm feeling at that moment.
As the heat/humidity increases, I'll be increasing the ratio of walking sessions (ideally in shaded areas) over running. Trying to keep the time-on-feet consistent especially if cardio is a bit tougher right now.
I don't know if this is considered "modified training" but Florida summers are brutal. My goal is to simply *stay at level* during the summer. I'm not trying to get faster at all, I just want to stay consistent (i.e. don't slow down). Because you're having to work harder to stay consistent, you actually are making gains, though it doesn't seem like it until the weather cools and you start getting faster.
Winter gains are made in the summer.
I've always been on Tailwind. Reasonably cheap ($0.75/8-12oz mixed volume at full price), mixes well in my bottles, tastes good to me, pretty heavy on carbs with a decent amount of salt per scoop.
I use LMNT, as well as Precision Hydration PH1500 tabs. Both seem to work really well. Did a fast 13 miler on Saturday in the heat (90F/32.2C) and didn't have any issues. Plenty of gas left in the tank at the end of the run.
Obvious choice, Neutrogena. That said, I will slop budget sunscreen all over me when the UV is high. Melanoma is a killer.
Edit: Lip balm deserves a mention too. The orange Nivea with the SPF 30 rating has a permanent home in my Salomon.
Sun bum had an SPF 30 lip balm that also has a more mild coconut-like flavor than some other SPF balms I've tried. There's also Jack black SPF 25 lip balm that has additional flavors that aren't bad but they come in squeeze tubes but the formula is thick so it doesn't seem to run out of the tube. It's funny to think about scents and tastes for sun protection but SPF does have a bitter aftertaste that I hate and our lips definitely do need the sun protection too.
Neutrogena hydroboost is the best feeling sunscreen I have ever used and my skin loved it, but if any amount gets into my eyes it's like hell on earth (all Neutrogena chemical sunscreens do this to me). It makes me so sad, but I absolutely cannot use Neutrogena if I'm going to sweat =(
But yeah, skin cancer sucks, slop on all the sunscreen.
Anthelios by La Roche Posay. I've used it for the past several years and it works great. SPF 60 face is my favorite.
I also use Blue Lizard Sport SPF 30 on my arms and legs.
The La Roche Posay face sunscreen is my HG. It's soooo good. I also like Blue Lizard for my body.
I've recently started to like the Neutrogena Beach Defense lotion because it's in a pump bottle
Echoing some other commenters re: Korean brands for sunscreen, especially for the face. I always begrudgingly wore sunscreen because I hated the texture, even highly recommended brands like La Roche Posay and Supergoop etc., but having a formula that I really like makes it so I never skip it.
My favorite is Isntree Watery Sun Gel 50++, but Beauty of Joseon and Cosrx Aloe are great too.
For your face: Supergoop unseen (or the matte mineral one). Itās the lightest, least greasy, least runny liquid eyeball burning sunscreen Iāve ever used. Iāve never had anything else with a similar texture. Second place: Elta MD. So far these two are the lowest acne breakout inducing options Iāve tried and yall, I have a whole closet shelf solely for sunscreens.
Got a lot that I like, these are what I use for running because they don't really run or burn my eyes.
1. The cheapest store-brand waterproof SPF50+ sunscreen at the store for body.
2. Banana Boat Light as Air - good for body too, less greasy than the cheaper banana boat variants.
3. Biore UV Athlizm Skin Protect Milk - light white cast, but doesn't budge.
4. Trader Joe's Knock off of Supergoop unseen - don't love the texture, but stays put while I'm sweating.
5. Not sure how waterproof it really is, but Biore UV aqua rich watery essence is my fave everyday sunscreen.
I recently started using Banana Boat Daily Protect Factor 50 and I really like it. Doesn't leave a greasy feeling on my skin.
Now I just need to find a face sunscreen that doesn't make me break out in horrendous spots
Sunscreen sticks have been a lifesaver this year. Easy to apply and small enough to throw in a pocket or running vest. Iām a Korean sunscreen kind of girl and have tried the ābeauty of joseonā and āelizavecca milky piggy great blockā. The joseon one feels less greasy than the piggy one, but the piggy one feels like a better value for the amount of sunblock you get. For non-stick-form sunscreen I regularly use the āderma b everyday sun blockā and donāt get burned.
Same. Every time the alarm goes off at 0500 (start running by 0530) I die inside a little more but goddamn do I want to run this fucker (marathon) in October.
I don't even know anymore. I'm in Bangkok and since Feb, I have been running in 30Ā°C+ (86Ā°F+) temps, 65%-85% humidity and dew points ranging between 24Ā°C and 26Ā°C (75Ā°F and 79Ā°F).
Last night was one of the better nights weather-wise: 29Ā°C/84Ā°F, 83% humidity and 26Ā°C/79Ā°F dew point. My shoes were still extremely damp.
I was in Vienna in early May and my pace was automatically 10% faster and even managed to run 20% farther than usual.
Here's hoping I can run significantly faster again when I run my HM in France in Oct!
I'm in Canada over here, and we're seeing temps of 30-32C with 56% humidity. "Feels like 42C" and I feel like I'm suffocating just walking around. I couldn't imagine running in this weather, I'd collapse and die.
Now, get me in the cold, I'll run until my breath freezes in my nose. But heat is no bueno, dunno how you guy do it.
The woes of living in SEA. Have been training in the PH with crazy temps and humidity. Will be running a half also in October in Europe, and I do hope I'll perform better with the more pleasant weather.
There isn't as long as you run when the sun isn't pounding on the pavement. It's frequently 70 80 degree dew points in South China, and I used to run every night. You come back looking like you took a dip in the pond, but it's easily doable with proper hydration
No such thing as too hot to run, as long as youāre preparing and adjusting pace and length.
As a midwesterner, when we get heat domes and the humidity is boiling you alive Iāll spend all day pre-hydrating for a 30-40m easy run that leaves me soaked.
Thereās just a lot of chatter on various social media that Iāve seen where people shame runners for carrying water for shorter distances and I think that kinda stuff is echoed by people who donāt get why some people need to carry hydration.
Depending on the distance and the heat, having water back at the car might be just fine. Caching water might be what you need. Or there might be water fountains.
Many people who carry water should be sure where they can refill, so they donāt need to carry huge amounts.
Find the lawn sprinklers in your area and learn the times they go off. Time your runs to be able to run through them.
Getting hair wet before a hot day has been a lifesaver for me, too. I'll dunk my head into water then put up into a braid.
I like to dip my bandana in ice cold water and wring it out about halfway right before I set off for my run. Keep my head cool for a good portion of the run!
I saw a little kid watering her front lawn yesterday and she waved at me as I was approaching. I yelled āSpray me!ā And she did and it was the best thing ever. She got a kick out of it too.
I take the dollar store sponges (not the one with the hard green side) and slice them lengthwise super thin. I soak them in ice water and put them under my hat. If you run in loops you can swap them out as you loop.
I do this for the run portion of my triathlons too and it works miracles! At every aid station I dump water on my head to keep the sponge wet.
Less water, more hydration drinks.
As a South African we have the heat for almost 90 months of the year and I started running in an area which would hit 30 celsius with 20% humidity in the winter. Having run during the heat many a time, here are some key things.
Light clothing, no bare chest : clothing soaks up sweat and keeps you cool. It also provides UV protection. Alot of people want the sunshine in the summer but you increase your heat absorption alot when your skin is exposed.
Shades: yes, you need to look cool but also protect your eyes from the glare and reflections.
Hydration: see opening statement. Water loss is a problem but you will going into the danger zone much quicker losing Sodium and potassium. Having good, proper sportsdrinks is essential to keep electrolytes in balance.
Also, beware of over hydrating. The key is simple. Are you thirsty? Sip some water. Are you still thirsty? Yes = Take a break, no= still good
We just had the comrades marathon and one big problem they see every year is runners fallimg out due to OVERhydrating. You know what you need, don't increase the volume of each sip, increase the frequency with which you sip.
Also, if you are at altitude, you will feel it alot worse. On the hottest days, you will feel like there is no air. If that is the case, wait for it to cooldown. I live pretty high and on the 35+ days you can feel it is just not going to be a good one.
Lastly, make sure you wear seamless or soft seam clothes, as the seams get soaked and they ride your skin which is not nice.
If you use a hydration vest with a bladder, put ice cubes in the bladder. Cold water feels more refreshing. Also you can put one of those flat reusable freezer packs in the vest to help keep your back from feeling like itās slow roasting.
["Get inside and onto a treadmill, ya dingus!"](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/S/pv-target-images/7d4b5c2b90b079e6aca584e6313f92125cf69fd0b48add7be6dcb91475c85a6b.jpg)
I've been using a frog tog cooling towel on all my runs and it has been helping immensely to keep me cool and keep the heart rate down. I soak it with cold water and wear it like a scarf.
Frog togs are a lifesaver. The flopping around is a bit annoying, but the relief they provide is worth it. Bonus points for being able to use it as a sweat towel instead of my shirt.
I tried for a few days to run with a light shirt on or singlets, but they get drenched in sweat, so I've given up on that and have been going shirtless.
Have read some things that say going shirtless might be worse. Any insight on that?
As long as you're not running at peak UV times, I find shirtless heaps better. Cooling effect with sweat on your body being exposed to the breeze (if there is one).
Yeah I run from 7:30am to around 9:00am so it isn't super hot, but running with a soaked shirt is just miserable.
I sometimes feel like a douchebag running shirtless, but who cares lol
Lay on the cold garage floor and drink cold electrolytes until I feel able to deal with life again. Eat something easy on the stomach like bananas or applesauce, then a small peanut butter sandwich.
If no garage floor, a shaded lawn (freshly sprinklered if possible) is also a delight.
Not sure if this is scientifically proven, but after doing my cooldown stretches and before I shower I like to have fruit ice pops. Very refreshing and something to motivate you through the last few KMs
Cold showers until you shiver or ice packs on your neck after you run. It helps bring your temp down and avoid heat stroke after hard hot efforts. It will also assist with sleep if you run later in the day. Frozen damp towels also work on the neck or face if a icepack is too intense or you don't have any handy.
I started running last fall and run 10 min miles. In the the fall and spring, my heart rate was ~140. Now it is 160 even when I run a minute or two slower. What do I do? Run even slower? (Iām 6ā6/220lb)
I mostly ignore HR June-August and try to look at how I'm recovering instead.
If my "easy" days have me feeling good for my "hard" days then I'm not so worried if I was in Z3 for most of the run - that had more to do with the heat and my hydration than my effort on the run. If I feel too worn down to execute workouts then I know I need to back off the effort/duration to give myself more recovery.
Yeah I think this is beyond Reddit's pay grade. Ultimately, your exercise heart rate is being used as a proxy for several different aspects of your metabolism. Those are what actually matter, not the heart rate. Heat makes your heart rate higher for unrelated reasons, so the value becomes less useful as a proxy.
If you are running by HR, then you need to expect it to be a bit higher and give yourself some latitude. Probably worth slowing down a little, but I would just allow for your summer runs to have a slightly higher HR.
EMBRACE THE HEAT!
This is not "get good mile times" season, this is "sweat a ton / keep that water weight low / if sweating actually gets bad stuff out, we're getting bad stuff out" season. Embrace it. Learn to love it. Make your body long for winter to come once more so you'll appreciate it all the more.
Previous years I have resorted to run/walk during the summer and just gave up any hope of any real running. I can't say that I made any progress at all training wise or fitness wise. This year I am trying 3 runs a week + 2 lifting sessions at the gym. One of the runs is a speed session at the gym. Another is a regular easy run at the gym (4.5 miles yesterday) and the third we are going to try to do a long run starting super early in the morning when the humidity is a billion percent but the heat isn't there. We will see if this yields better results.
This seems early for an uncomplaint (I'll probably re-use it on Thursday), but I like that I run in a lesser-used park. Nobody yelling "PUT A SHIRT ON!" at me. Because when it's 74 in the morning, I'm running without my shirt!
Try not to think too much about it ā at least in my experience, the hot runs NEVER get easier.. but the fitness (āheat dopingā) is sooooo real and itāll all be worth it!
Is this actually true?? I have been hoping this bc some of these runs are SO discouraging and I just feel like I'm losing fitness because of how much I slow down (or if I don't slow down, how hard it feels).
100% true!!! my fastest races have always been in the fall after a horrific summer training block lmao.. think about it this way -- even though your paces are slower, your HR aka effort is about the same (or higher) as to what it usually is. sure your legs might lack a bit in the speed/turnover department, but they have a long memory and frequent strides/tempo/vo2 max workouts help significantly here.. once the cooler temps hit, you'll suddenly be able to FLY as if a 30lb weight is off your back!!
as annoying as it is, I've found it best to just accept the fact that the summer training sucks and the runs still contribute significantly to your fitness even if you slow down 1min/mi+. keep at it!!
Omg, this really helped my mindset so much haha, I have just been assuming no one is struggling but me š such great perspective, thank you a million!! Fingers crossed!
My favorite thing is when you run all summer and it's hot as hell, then you run a race in October and it's cool and you're suddenly so much more efficient.
After a run outside, instead of running inside to the A/C I will try to spend 5-10 minutes in my garage or a shaded part of my lawn while I drink some water. I find it helps my body get used to the heat.
Drink a lot of water and run in areas where if you begin to get heat stroke you can go in and relax and ask for water (ie, mcdonalds).
Cities usually have maps of all their water fountains throughout the city as well
Run in the mornings
I don't acclimatize to heat the same way I do to the winter and am sure this is the same for a lot of other runners. The best solution is to be prepared and that's it
Take a walk in the sun during the hottest time of the day and stand in the sun for a few minutes. Do this a couple of days and suddenly you will start feeling it less and less.
At the beginning of the season I'll go for short runs at the hottest hours of the day. Always with plenty of water, a cap, and some sunscreen. Worked wonder to make it more bearable.
I live in Georgia and itās hot! I need a new hydration belt, but Iām struggling to find one with a good fit. Iām a petite women. 5ā1 and about 130lbs. Iāve gone to my local REĆ store, but they didnāt have any in my size. Iāve tried the Salmon brand, but Iām hesitant to spend the money. Any brand recommendations? I donāt want anything that bounces when I run.
I find that a loose fitting light coloured shirt helps more with keeping me cool than going shirtless when the sun is beating down on me. If running shirts are hard to find, I've found that fishing shirts do a pretty good job with this as well.
I'm already fully embracing running shirtless. In some ways I hate to be "that guy" wearing 2" running shorts and shirtless in my neighborhood, but I do it at sunrise so not too many people are out and about. When it's 70 degrees with high humidity it's the best I can do.
I wish I could rock a 2" short. When I see people out there with that "runners body" I'm always jealous. I'm not big by any stretch, but years of weight lifting have given me some thick thighs.
Rock that shit.
Fellas, what temperature is warm enough for you to run shirtless in summer? Was chatting about this with some buds recently and there was a bit of disagreement. (Personally, 65 and sunny is enough for me to lose the top)
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I wanna die
I like to think this is the official Blackhawks Reddit account
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Am I actually walking?
"Man, I really feel like I'm working hard!" "Your pace is 9:00/km, and your HR is 190" - my watch
Omfg. I feel so seen. Hahaha
It was me, tonight. Like an hour ago. Just awful haha
So true!!!
I AM NOT HAVING A GOOD TIME
I finished my run this morning and I was exhausted and I said to myself, āthis is so unpleasantā as Iām drenched in sweat.
Cold shower feels great after tho, that is my motivation as I lose half my body weight in water while running.
I think about the cold shower almost the whole run when itās hot.
Itās probably because Iām not working towards any big goals other than keeping myself moving, so if I put in a shit performance, no big deal. But.Ā I went out this morning and the misery the weather induced was the best high Iāve had in a long time.Ā
Everybody gets so excited and romantic about the summer and I just get visions of suffering
Fortunately I live in the UK which so far this summer has simply meant warmer rain.
I live in a desert, and every time June hits, I start trying to rope people into bad land purchases in Alaska
God I miss winter
Im conflicted. On one hand I hate having to plan my runs around snow and ice (Colorado). On the other hand the running itself is so much easier than long sessions in summer heat.
I find the hardest part of winter running is just convincing myself to step out the door. When I am inside and warm I am convinced that I will be cold and miserable during my run. Once I get out and start moving I am never as cold as I thought I would be. After that I usually start to enjoy my run.
White clothing is a vicious cycle. Wear white because itās hot then sweat so much all the white is stained with sweat
I undress in the shower when I run or play soccer in the summer. That initial rinse goes a long way. Also great for hats if you're a serial sweat stain hat ruiner like myself.
Itās like trying to breathe through a wet sock.
Why tf do I get headaches the second I step outside and it's 80+ F.
POTS? Maybe not enough hydration
My shoes become waterlogged with sweat and splash with every step.
Can the sun not hate my skin so much?
I am moving to the Southern Hemisphere to escape the heat like a migrating bird.
As someone in the Southern Hemisphere who is currently running at lunch time because that's when it's warm enough, this thread is a welcome chuckle.
Hooray, I'm in the top 1%.... for sweat rate. I hate it here. Please be October again.
I yearn for the freezing temperatures to crystallize the sweat to my body. I'm a regular Jack Frost type. But also, it's nice not having to thaw myself out for a change.
It has finally dawned on me why Iāve been so dang cranky and irritable and anxiety-ridden the last two or so weeks. Hello Summer Seasonal Affective Disorder my old friend.
Iāve never once felt the heat of the sun on my body and thought ah yes, amazing. When will it be winter again.
Here, we only have two seasons; Summer and Not Summer. I miss Not Summer.
Is it fall yet? Iām already sick of this
Why am I oiled up with Vaseline and still chafing in all my ladybits....oh....because its fucking florida and it's hot and I'm becoming a salt mine thats why.
I hate waking up at 6 am just to run, it makes me wanna vomit šš
I was running at 6 today and it was already 80 degrees, fml
This is hell. I went out a little too late at 8 for a tempo run, I was STRUGGLING to hit my goal pace.
I almost died doing a half marathon long run this last week. 95 degrees and no shadeš
Kids are everywhere
On the bright side, I got a new watch about a month ago, so Iāve hit back-to-back āNew maximum heart rate!ā achievements on my last two runs (running a very uninspiring pace, I might add)
Itās only June and all of my summer running gear smells terrible already
I hate hate hate running in this weather but having recently moved to Chicago itās soooo nice just jumping in the lake when iām done
It's June and in Belgium it still feels like October, it's been raining non stop for 6 months, we only had like 5 days of sun in 2024... I wanna die too
Going through a heat wave this week in southern Ontarioā¦no central AC in my apartment. Everytime someone says āI bet itās always cold in Canadaā I combust and cry in global warming. It was already +35 today at 8am and why does it thunderstorm every hour? But it just gets hotter and muggier? Why do I suddenly live in Florida?
Heat is one thing but heat & humidity..? I miss winter.
It snowed last night. Yes, I'm in the northern hemisphere.
On a beach vacation ā and live in the high-desert at home ā mother of god is humidity awful.
My body is sticky, I don't like that.
Gentle reminder that it is not even summer, yet. Kill me.
As a trail runner, most of my favorite trails are overgrown now and running on them just isn't possible. And yes, I do volunteer trail work with local groups a couple of times a month. But my favorite trails are the more remote ones without a lot of traffic and the maintenance crews just don't have time to deal with them. And I just don't have enough time to weed whack 5 miles of trail myself, especially considering it's a 5 mile hike to get to that 5 mile section of trail. So I will wait until early winter to hit these trails again.
**HYDRATION ADVICE, TIPS, TRICKS**
Hydration is a before activity as much as during and after. I force myself to drink half a litre of water when I wake up to set myself up for the rest of the day.
Agree on the 500ml of water when you get up. I thought my wife was crazy when she told me to do this, but it stopped me getting a headache after early morning exercise.
I feel like it helps me poop too, gets the body going and hydrated so I can drop some weight before I head out
More of a before activity than anything in my opinion. If you're not well hydrated when you start there is no way to recover that on the run.
Currenly drinking 6-7L of water a day with electrolytes. Did a 7 mile long run at 113F and I held well.
**MODIFYING TRAINING FOR THE HEAT**
As a HS XC coach here is my speech: >Everything we do this week is zone 5 because your body hates the heat. Show up hydrated and no one is allowed to walk home afterwards, so get a ride. If you arenāt here, I will never ever hold it against you because I promise you that I donāt want to be running with you but I will anyway. Ā
I am able to change my schedule a bit so I will be doing morning runs before work, it's annoying but doable. Regardless, I have decided to invest more time indoors doing strength training instead so hopefully I will come out in October in my best shape ever!
Yesterday I went out for a warmup run in the morning, and it was cloudy, warm, and a bit humid when I left. Everything was fine until the clouds parted and the temperature jumped by around 5-6 degrees (at least). Things went pretty quickly from fine to hard, and it didn't help that this coincided with a long climb portion of the loop. It was a good reminder from my desert days that the sun makes a big difference. Slowed things right down at that point and was able to keep things manageable for the rest of the warmup at least. I've learned over the years (the hard way) to modify my workouts based on various changing conditions and how I'm feeling at that moment. As the heat/humidity increases, I'll be increasing the ratio of walking sessions (ideally in shaded areas) over running. Trying to keep the time-on-feet consistent especially if cardio is a bit tougher right now.
I don't know if this is considered "modified training" but Florida summers are brutal. My goal is to simply *stay at level* during the summer. I'm not trying to get faster at all, I just want to stay consistent (i.e. don't slow down). Because you're having to work harder to stay consistent, you actually are making gains, though it doesn't seem like it until the weather cools and you start getting faster. Winter gains are made in the summer.
**FAVORITE ELECTROLYTE SUPPLEMENT**
Lemon lime Salt Stick tabs are my favorite. Does that count?
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omg the watermelon one is so gross
Nuun has been excellent for me, and it's cheap
Liquid iv since itās cheaper at Costco and doesnāt taste terrible
My Costco only carries the sugar free one now and I can't stand the taste.
lmnt is the winner for me when itās hot
Just looked it up, 1000mg sodium?? I'm a heavy sweater, may have to try that. I normally use nuun or gatorlyte which is 500mg
if you want to taste all 1000mg get the ārawā flavor and you get to taste ocean all long run.
I tried their watermelon salt flavor and loved it!!
I love their new sparkling waters. Even more than the powder.
Gatorade Endurance powder passes my nutrition label scan and is cheaper than other supplements on Amazon
I've always been on Tailwind. Reasonably cheap ($0.75/8-12oz mixed volume at full price), mixes well in my bottles, tastes good to me, pretty heavy on carbs with a decent amount of salt per scoop.
I like Nuun. It's also what they will use in the Toronto Waterfront Marathon his fall which is good for me!
Skratch, no gross sweeteners (just sugar), real fruit.
Same. All those sugar substitutes make me sick.
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Iāve been enjoying the packets of Pedialyte. Somewhat fewer artificial ingredients
1/4 teaspoon salt and a healthy dose of lime juice into a 1L Nalgene. Iāll throw in some coconut water if I got it.
I use LMNT, as well as Precision Hydration PH1500 tabs. Both seem to work really well. Did a fast 13 miler on Saturday in the heat (90F/32.2C) and didn't have any issues. Plenty of gas left in the tank at the end of the run.
Lime juice, pinch of salt for sodium, pinch of Nu-Salt for potassium, and a couple tablespoons of sugar in a liter of water.
**FAVORITE SUNSCREEN**
Obvious choice, Neutrogena. That said, I will slop budget sunscreen all over me when the UV is high. Melanoma is a killer. Edit: Lip balm deserves a mention too. The orange Nivea with the SPF 30 rating has a permanent home in my Salomon.
Sun bum had an SPF 30 lip balm that also has a more mild coconut-like flavor than some other SPF balms I've tried. There's also Jack black SPF 25 lip balm that has additional flavors that aren't bad but they come in squeeze tubes but the formula is thick so it doesn't seem to run out of the tube. It's funny to think about scents and tastes for sun protection but SPF does have a bitter aftertaste that I hate and our lips definitely do need the sun protection too.
Neutrogena hydroboost is the best feeling sunscreen I have ever used and my skin loved it, but if any amount gets into my eyes it's like hell on earth (all Neutrogena chemical sunscreens do this to me). It makes me so sad, but I absolutely cannot use Neutrogena if I'm going to sweat =( But yeah, skin cancer sucks, slop on all the sunscreen.
Anthelios by La Roche Posay. I've used it for the past several years and it works great. SPF 60 face is my favorite. I also use Blue Lizard Sport SPF 30 on my arms and legs.
The La Roche Posay face sunscreen is my HG. It's soooo good. I also like Blue Lizard for my body. I've recently started to like the Neutrogena Beach Defense lotion because it's in a pump bottle
Coppertone Water Babies. Highly rated by consumer reports, stays on well through exercise/wet conditions, and doesn't sting the eyes when you sweat.
Echoing some other commenters re: Korean brands for sunscreen, especially for the face. I always begrudgingly wore sunscreen because I hated the texture, even highly recommended brands like La Roche Posay and Supergoop etc., but having a formula that I really like makes it so I never skip it. My favorite is Isntree Watery Sun Gel 50++, but Beauty of Joseon and Cosrx Aloe are great too.
Supergoop Play for any outdoor activites! I have sensitive skin and it hasn't broken me out.
For your face: Supergoop unseen (or the matte mineral one). Itās the lightest, least greasy, least runny liquid eyeball burning sunscreen Iāve ever used. Iāve never had anything else with a similar texture. Second place: Elta MD. So far these two are the lowest acne breakout inducing options Iāve tried and yall, I have a whole closet shelf solely for sunscreens.
Got a lot that I like, these are what I use for running because they don't really run or burn my eyes. 1. The cheapest store-brand waterproof SPF50+ sunscreen at the store for body. 2. Banana Boat Light as Air - good for body too, less greasy than the cheaper banana boat variants. 3. Biore UV Athlizm Skin Protect Milk - light white cast, but doesn't budge. 4. Trader Joe's Knock off of Supergoop unseen - don't love the texture, but stays put while I'm sweating. 5. Not sure how waterproof it really is, but Biore UV aqua rich watery essence is my fave everyday sunscreen.
I recently started using Banana Boat Daily Protect Factor 50 and I really like it. Doesn't leave a greasy feeling on my skin. Now I just need to find a face sunscreen that doesn't make me break out in horrendous spots
Blue lizard sport SPF 30 as my daily driver.
Sunscreen sticks have been a lifesaver this year. Easy to apply and small enough to throw in a pocket or running vest. Iām a Korean sunscreen kind of girl and have tried the ābeauty of joseonā and āelizavecca milky piggy great blockā. The joseon one feels less greasy than the piggy one, but the piggy one feels like a better value for the amount of sunblock you get. For non-stick-form sunscreen I regularly use the āderma b everyday sun blockā and donāt get burned.
Beauty of Joseon for the face and supergoop play for the body
**HOW HOT IS TOO HOT TO RUN**
Florida
Why am I training for a marathon rn please help
Same. Every time the alarm goes off at 0500 (start running by 0530) I die inside a little more but goddamn do I want to run this fucker (marathon) in October.
Embrace the heat and think about how it is making you stronger. Once autumn starts and the temperatures drop, you will be flying.
Seriously! Especially after the past few weeks without any rain until recently. I think that was the driest heat Iāve felt here in a while.
We just got 3 days of rain in Louisiana and 84 feels like prime running weather compared to the high 90s we had last week
Summer of 2017 in Phoenix it hit 121. I did a short 2 mile run for the novelty. That was too hot for running.
A dew point of 70+
I can do a dew point of 70+ as long as it's early morning.
Lol the dew point here in south florida is over 70 all day every day
I don't even know anymore. I'm in Bangkok and since Feb, I have been running in 30Ā°C+ (86Ā°F+) temps, 65%-85% humidity and dew points ranging between 24Ā°C and 26Ā°C (75Ā°F and 79Ā°F). Last night was one of the better nights weather-wise: 29Ā°C/84Ā°F, 83% humidity and 26Ā°C/79Ā°F dew point. My shoes were still extremely damp. I was in Vienna in early May and my pace was automatically 10% faster and even managed to run 20% farther than usual. Here's hoping I can run significantly faster again when I run my HM in France in Oct!
I'm in Canada over here, and we're seeing temps of 30-32C with 56% humidity. "Feels like 42C" and I feel like I'm suffocating just walking around. I couldn't imagine running in this weather, I'd collapse and die. Now, get me in the cold, I'll run until my breath freezes in my nose. But heat is no bueno, dunno how you guy do it.
The woes of living in SEA. Have been training in the PH with crazy temps and humidity. Will be running a half also in October in Europe, and I do hope I'll perform better with the more pleasant weather.
Atlanta. Hot, hills and humidity
Me IRL š¢
There isn't as long as you run when the sun isn't pounding on the pavement. It's frequently 70 80 degree dew points in South China, and I used to run every night. You come back looking like you took a dip in the pond, but it's easily doable with proper hydration
No such thing as too hot to run, as long as youāre preparing and adjusting pace and length. As a midwesterner, when we get heat domes and the humidity is boiling you alive Iāll spend all day pre-hydrating for a 30-40m easy run that leaves me soaked.
I know someone who uses an exercise bike in a sauna
**TIPS/TRICKS FOR RUNNING IN THE HEAT**
Itās ok to carry a water bottle or hydration pack, donāt let anyone tell you otherwise
This, 100%. I BQ'd carrying a water bottle belt with 4 10 ouncers. Do what you need to.
Yeah same. I had a marathon earlier this month and carried a bottle in my hand the whole time due to the heat and finished in 3:11
Who is telling people otherwise?!
Thereās just a lot of chatter on various social media that Iāve seen where people shame runners for carrying water for shorter distances and I think that kinda stuff is echoed by people who donāt get why some people need to carry hydration.
Depending on the distance and the heat, having water back at the car might be just fine. Caching water might be what you need. Or there might be water fountains. Many people who carry water should be sure where they can refill, so they donāt need to carry huge amounts.
Find the lawn sprinklers in your area and learn the times they go off. Time your runs to be able to run through them. Getting hair wet before a hot day has been a lifesaver for me, too. I'll dunk my head into water then put up into a braid.
Ever since I saw my neighbor install some herbicide feeding system to his sprinklers, I'm very hesitant to run through sprinklers.
I like to dip my bandana in ice cold water and wring it out about halfway right before I set off for my run. Keep my head cool for a good portion of the run!
I saw a little kid watering her front lawn yesterday and she waved at me as I was approaching. I yelled āSpray me!ā And she did and it was the best thing ever. She got a kick out of it too.
I take the dollar store sponges (not the one with the hard green side) and slice them lengthwise super thin. I soak them in ice water and put them under my hat. If you run in loops you can swap them out as you loop. I do this for the run portion of my triathlons too and it works miracles! At every aid station I dump water on my head to keep the sponge wet.
Less water, more hydration drinks. As a South African we have the heat for almost 90 months of the year and I started running in an area which would hit 30 celsius with 20% humidity in the winter. Having run during the heat many a time, here are some key things. Light clothing, no bare chest : clothing soaks up sweat and keeps you cool. It also provides UV protection. Alot of people want the sunshine in the summer but you increase your heat absorption alot when your skin is exposed. Shades: yes, you need to look cool but also protect your eyes from the glare and reflections. Hydration: see opening statement. Water loss is a problem but you will going into the danger zone much quicker losing Sodium and potassium. Having good, proper sportsdrinks is essential to keep electrolytes in balance. Also, beware of over hydrating. The key is simple. Are you thirsty? Sip some water. Are you still thirsty? Yes = Take a break, no= still good We just had the comrades marathon and one big problem they see every year is runners fallimg out due to OVERhydrating. You know what you need, don't increase the volume of each sip, increase the frequency with which you sip. Also, if you are at altitude, you will feel it alot worse. On the hottest days, you will feel like there is no air. If that is the case, wait for it to cooldown. I live pretty high and on the 35+ days you can feel it is just not going to be a good one. Lastly, make sure you wear seamless or soft seam clothes, as the seams get soaked and they ride your skin which is not nice.
Could you please explain what some of the signs of overhydration are and what dangers it can pose? Itās not something Iāve heard of.
Early morning runs or late evening runs. Where it's safe to do so, 2-3 a.m. runs can be fantastic.
>Early morning runs or late evening runs. Cool cool. >2-3 a.m. š³
I start marathon training in August, and always run before work. Letās hope the 2-3am runs are as nice as you say š
5:00am runs. The only way from July to Sept.
Modify routes to maximize shade
I ran a route this morning trying to hug tree cover. I may have looked like a crazy person but it was hot out!
If you use a hydration vest with a bladder, put ice cubes in the bladder. Cold water feels more refreshing. Also you can put one of those flat reusable freezer packs in the vest to help keep your back from feeling like itās slow roasting.
Small loop with water at your car if you don't have access to a water fountain.
My mom sets up little caches of frozen bottles along her route via car or bike so she can switch out empties and have ice cold water.
Running at dawn or just before, it's cool from the night but light enough to be seen.
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I've been using a frog tog cooling towel on all my runs and it has been helping immensely to keep me cool and keep the heart rate down. I soak it with cold water and wear it like a scarf.
Frog togs are a lifesaver. The flopping around is a bit annoying, but the relief they provide is worth it. Bonus points for being able to use it as a sweat towel instead of my shirt.
I tried for a few days to run with a light shirt on or singlets, but they get drenched in sweat, so I've given up on that and have been going shirtless. Have read some things that say going shirtless might be worse. Any insight on that?
As long as you're not running at peak UV times, I find shirtless heaps better. Cooling effect with sweat on your body being exposed to the breeze (if there is one).
Yeah I run from 7:30am to around 9:00am so it isn't super hot, but running with a soaked shirt is just miserable. I sometimes feel like a douchebag running shirtless, but who cares lol
Vaseline in the eyebrows to prevent sweat in your eyes- wonāt last forever put staves off the inevitable for a few milesĀ
**RECOVERY FROM A HOT RUN**
Lay on the cold garage floor and drink cold electrolytes until I feel able to deal with life again. Eat something easy on the stomach like bananas or applesauce, then a small peanut butter sandwich. If no garage floor, a shaded lawn (freshly sprinklered if possible) is also a delight.
Cold basement
Not sure if this is scientifically proven, but after doing my cooldown stretches and before I shower I like to have fruit ice pops. Very refreshing and something to motivate you through the last few KMs
There's nothing I crave more when I'm hot and sweaty after summer exercise than cold fruity stuff. Juice, watermelon, freeze, it's all great.
My local ice cream shop starts making my small vanilla milkshake as soon as I pull into the parking lot.Ā
Cold drinks and cold shower
Cold showers until you shiver or ice packs on your neck after you run. It helps bring your temp down and avoid heat stroke after hard hot efforts. It will also assist with sleep if you run later in the day. Frozen damp towels also work on the neck or face if a icepack is too intense or you don't have any handy.
Pedialyte freezies are amazing after a hot run!
**FAVORITE HYDRATION PACK**
I will still sing my praises for my saloman adv skin. The fit is incredible and works with just the front or back baldder.
Osprey Duro 1.5L
**GENERAL QUESTIONS/COMMENTS**
I started running last fall and run 10 min miles. In the the fall and spring, my heart rate was ~140. Now it is 160 even when I run a minute or two slower. What do I do? Run even slower? (Iām 6ā6/220lb)
I mostly ignore HR June-August and try to look at how I'm recovering instead. If my "easy" days have me feeling good for my "hard" days then I'm not so worried if I was in Z3 for most of the run - that had more to do with the heat and my hydration than my effort on the run. If I feel too worn down to execute workouts then I know I need to back off the effort/duration to give myself more recovery.
Yeah I think this is beyond Reddit's pay grade. Ultimately, your exercise heart rate is being used as a proxy for several different aspects of your metabolism. Those are what actually matter, not the heart rate. Heat makes your heart rate higher for unrelated reasons, so the value becomes less useful as a proxy.
If you are running by HR, then you need to expect it to be a bit higher and give yourself some latitude. Probably worth slowing down a little, but I would just allow for your summer runs to have a slightly higher HR.
Appreciate! I generally donāt look at it too closely but it was so stark a difference it was starting to worry me a bit.
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EMBRACE THE HEAT! This is not "get good mile times" season, this is "sweat a ton / keep that water weight low / if sweating actually gets bad stuff out, we're getting bad stuff out" season. Embrace it. Learn to love it. Make your body long for winter to come once more so you'll appreciate it all the more.
Previous years I have resorted to run/walk during the summer and just gave up any hope of any real running. I can't say that I made any progress at all training wise or fitness wise. This year I am trying 3 runs a week + 2 lifting sessions at the gym. One of the runs is a speed session at the gym. Another is a regular easy run at the gym (4.5 miles yesterday) and the third we are going to try to do a long run starting super early in the morning when the humidity is a billion percent but the heat isn't there. We will see if this yields better results.
This seems early for an uncomplaint (I'll probably re-use it on Thursday), but I like that I run in a lesser-used park. Nobody yelling "PUT A SHIRT ON!" at me. Because when it's 74 in the morning, I'm running without my shirt!
**HEAT ACCLIMATIZATION TIPS**
Try not to think too much about it ā at least in my experience, the hot runs NEVER get easier.. but the fitness (āheat dopingā) is sooooo real and itāll all be worth it!
Is this actually true?? I have been hoping this bc some of these runs are SO discouraging and I just feel like I'm losing fitness because of how much I slow down (or if I don't slow down, how hard it feels).
100% true!!! my fastest races have always been in the fall after a horrific summer training block lmao.. think about it this way -- even though your paces are slower, your HR aka effort is about the same (or higher) as to what it usually is. sure your legs might lack a bit in the speed/turnover department, but they have a long memory and frequent strides/tempo/vo2 max workouts help significantly here.. once the cooler temps hit, you'll suddenly be able to FLY as if a 30lb weight is off your back!! as annoying as it is, I've found it best to just accept the fact that the summer training sucks and the runs still contribute significantly to your fitness even if you slow down 1min/mi+. keep at it!!
Omg, this really helped my mindset so much haha, I have just been assuming no one is struggling but me š such great perspective, thank you a million!! Fingers crossed!
My favorite thing is when you run all summer and it's hot as hell, then you run a race in October and it's cool and you're suddenly so much more efficient.
Consider moving somewhere else.
After a run outside, instead of running inside to the A/C I will try to spend 5-10 minutes in my garage or a shaded part of my lawn while I drink some water. I find it helps my body get used to the heat.
Drink a lot of water and run in areas where if you begin to get heat stroke you can go in and relax and ask for water (ie, mcdonalds). Cities usually have maps of all their water fountains throughout the city as well Run in the mornings I don't acclimatize to heat the same way I do to the winter and am sure this is the same for a lot of other runners. The best solution is to be prepared and that's it
Take a walk in the sun during the hottest time of the day and stand in the sun for a few minutes. Do this a couple of days and suddenly you will start feeling it less and less.
At the beginning of the season I'll go for short runs at the hottest hours of the day. Always with plenty of water, a cap, and some sunscreen. Worked wonder to make it more bearable.
**GEAR FOR RUNNING IN THE HEAT/HUMIDITY**
White or other light colored running hats. You can dampen them and freeze them for some early run assistance to keep you cool.
Extra points if the hat shades your ears and neck.
I don't change much, but I do go from a black hat in the winter to a white hat in the summer. It makes a noticeable difference!
Don't know if this applies, but Body Glide is a lifesaver for those of who chafe. Also if you're a guy, may need the band aids for nips. YMMV.
I live in Georgia and itās hot! I need a new hydration belt, but Iām struggling to find one with a good fit. Iām a petite women. 5ā1 and about 130lbs. Iāve gone to my local REĆ store, but they didnāt have any in my size. Iāve tried the Salmon brand, but Iām hesitant to spend the money. Any brand recommendations? I donāt want anything that bounces when I run.
I find that a loose fitting light coloured shirt helps more with keeping me cool than going shirtless when the sun is beating down on me. If running shirts are hard to find, I've found that fishing shirts do a pretty good job with this as well.
The Patagonia Capilene Cool Lightweight shirts have been solid. As the name suggests, they are super lightweight. Bit pricey but theyāre worth it.
I'm already fully embracing running shirtless. In some ways I hate to be "that guy" wearing 2" running shorts and shirtless in my neighborhood, but I do it at sunrise so not too many people are out and about. When it's 70 degrees with high humidity it's the best I can do.
I wish I could rock a 2" short. When I see people out there with that "runners body" I'm always jealous. I'm not big by any stretch, but years of weight lifting have given me some thick thighs. Rock that shit.
When I lost 42 lbs, I found that I had much more tolerance for running in the heat.
adizero 5" split shorts have been great, super light and breathable. Of course no shirt to go with it.
Janji 3ā afo middle shorts!! Lightweight and a nice back phone pocket with no bounce
Fellas, what temperature is warm enough for you to run shirtless in summer? Was chatting about this with some buds recently and there was a bit of disagreement. (Personally, 65 and sunny is enough for me to lose the top)