Teenagers are having sex anyways so what’s the difference, so if a 42 year old man wants to engage with a teen what’s the problem she’s more then likely doing it with the high school football joc. ( according to Dan)
I have actually worked in the film industry. So I kinda understand. A huge part of it is probably the fact that the paychecks are generally fat on a film set.
But I will also say that I never saw anything like this on a set. (And I did work one of Disney's flagship shows).
But if I did. I'm pretty sure I'd throw away my career to see justice. I just don't think I could live with myself, with the knowledge of it, without saying something.
Am i missing something about the bath scene? That one actually just seemed like a random goofy scene. She was fully clothed and there was a lot of bubbles just seemed stupid.
What the hell is going on in the blooper when they’re on the floor what does ariana say about her skirt i can hear ? Did she say my coochie is showing and and someone on set said thats the best thing i ever heard ?? Or am I tripping lol
That's exactly what it sounds like because she tries to cover her legs directly after. Fucking *what*. Just whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. Oh my god, sympathies to any young actors or actresses who had to work around that. FFS. That'll leave scars that may not heal for a long time.
There is something to be said for experiencing things first hand and forming your own opinion, rather than viewing something from a commentators view point. Yes it's extremely uncomfortable, but it's an education on the reality of the predatory world. Know thy enemy.
Ariana was one of the ones who got it the worst, it's just not spoken about in the same way as people who have come out about the abuse they suffered. I think because Ariana has never said anything publicly about the treatment she received.
My respect to the people who don't let the sickos off quietly for what they did, and the people who don't let what they went through stop them from reaching their goals.
The sad part though, is that the system doesn't usually let you be both those people.
No one should have to choose, but no judgement on the choice they do make.
the upside down on the bed "I'm thirsty" is probably the worst one tbh. Can't believe how long stuff like that went on for (and realistically still is)
After watching these clips, not knowing very much about the people mentioned, I get the sense these were clips from some kind of kids/young teenager show? Which then had me questioning why we have made it okay to sexualize an underage girl to be watched by primarily underage viewers. It's good that we have been "canceling" people for fucked up shit they did in the past. But we should be actively canceling this kind of shit when it happens.
These shows should just be removed tbh (or at least heavily edited to remove clips that have a pornographic sentiment)… even Dan’s latest quote: “If there was an actual problem with the scenes that some people, now years later are ‘sexualizing,’ they would be taken down, but they are not, they are aired constantly all over the world today still, enjoyed by both kids and parents.”
And honestly, as much as we all want to point the finger at Dan, it was a collective culture that approved this, and the fact that entertainment giants still give these shows a platform, shows that it’s not just Dan that’s the problem.
It shows it's been the normal for a very long time for them. At least it's finally being brought to light but untold damage has already dealt and continue to be made
For me, it's when she's lying on the floor with Liz gillies, knocking off, and when the cameraman comes up the two abruptly sit up and liz gillies goes to fix ariana grande's skirt. The way she does that just seems hyperaware to me. They weren't doing anything wrong or weird, they were both fully covered, but Liz gillies felt the need to pull ariana grande's skirt down further. It just seems like a weird way for a kid to do something that was already weird on its own.
If you haven't read "I'm Glad My Mom Died" by Jeanette McCurdy, I highly recommend it. It touches a bit on what a complete shitstain Dan Schneider is. She uses an alias for him (likely for legal reasons), but it's clear who she's talking about.
I listened to the audiobook and if those are your thing at all 10/10 recommend. She narrates it herself and her cadence and inflections were perfect, felt like a friend telling me a story about their life
Yeah, I’ve followed her life for some years now, and all of the Schneider stuff and it’s pretty fucked up, it’s so sad that there’s parents abusing and exploiting their children for some fame. I guess I’m going to learn much more about the mother now. Thanks for recommending the book.
Her mom was an extreme narcissist. I grew up with a mom like Janet's but worse. If you want more stories of parents like her, browse r/raisedbynarcissists. You'll be surprised at how common parents like her are.
[GoodReads](https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/93537110-i-m-glad-my-mom-died) has some strong quotes. It’s honestly worth the read or the listen. Jeanette McCurdy narrates the audiobook, and I feel it’s more inflected as intended in her voice.
It's just funny and quirky behavior!! The same kind of stuff people do to exploit their children for social media and when criticized they try to flip it and say if you see it as sexual or wrong then you're the pervert.
Dude holy shit, I don’t know what’s more disturbing. The fact that Schneider made her do this shit, or the fact that Nickelodeon actually aired this and little kids are shown this *funny and quirky behavior!* being done by their favorite characters. Dan Schneider’s evasion of prison is proof that anything is possible.
I think Dan just had too much creative control. Nickelodeon only got rid of him once he stopped producing hit after hit and his shows got worse and worse.
That was....something. Where were her parents while this was going on? I'm sorry, but if your script calls for my daughter to double fist a potato while saying 'give up the juice,' we're gonna have a long talk.
That but also some of the kids genuinely enjoy the acting, and speaking up could get the kid removed/fired. At least one of the reasons given by a parent on Quiet on Set ep 1
Man they really think that’s a good reason, too. “But my child *enjoys* being exploited!”
Seriously?? as the parent, it’s their job to protect the child. I get that acting may be the child’s dream and it’s sad to feel like you’re taking that away. But you’re also taking away the trauma they’re enduring!
People experience trauma differently. Just because something is traumatic for one person doesnt mean it will be for all people.
Take war for example. Most people will be traumatized by there are some who just wont care.
The way they both immediately look uncomfortable and Ariana tries to pull her hair over her chest while the other girl fixes her skirt is just so revealing and sad.
I think Ariana yells right at the beginning "everyone can see that puss," which is totally in keeping with what a ~16 year old might joke about while in that position and with friends, but less so when there's a creepy old man filming her.
Watch the icarly BTS clips. The iCarly cast seem are “cleaner” than the victorious cast so their reactions to Dan are even more alarming. Miranda literally runs away at a point and Jerry Trainer steps in to help her.
There’s a great documentary called quiet on set about all of this. It just came out with its 4th episode. It’s on HBO max. It’s the best made breakdown because it interviews people who experienced working with Dan, all other docs that cover the situation are amateur (still some good ones) YouTube videos
If they weren’t making any money they wouldn’t be around to expose stuff. If you really don’t want to pay the $15 month or whatever subscription just pirate it.
I don’t know if it’s because of her amazing RBF, but I always thought that Elizabeth Gillies was the only one who *visibly* expressed disgust about what was going on. Seems like she tried her best to “protect” Ariana’s dignity
I mean, hiding [double entendres in childrens' media](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10485491/amp/Rude-double-entendres-childrens-TV-films-revealed.html) is old af and happens all the time. It's designed to go over the childrens' head as a joke for their otherwise bored parents stuck watching the show with them. So it's not surprising you didn't catch the innuendo, it's designed that way.
Normally it's mostly pretty harmless because it's just like, a rude joke the kids won't understand, but the stuff in OP's clip crossed the line because it's not just a hidden sexual joke but actively sexualizing an underage actress.
Especially because the character of Cat is designed to be extra immature / infantilized. The whole thing is just beyond creepy and has gotten to the point where even pet names like baby or babe just grosses me out. Infantilizing sex in any scenario is disgusting, especially when it's like this with underage actresses, even if it's designed as "a joke".
I agree with your entire commentary. In fact it was super common with a lot of the cartoons oriented towards Millennials and Older Gen Z in the 2000s to early 2010s like the Fairy Odd Parents. That entire show was that but they were cartoons. I never got into Victorious because of this, it felt weird. Now I know why. The innuendo wasn't fun when it was with a real live person. Even if it was acting.
the second clip with the water guns is the only one i actually saw as a kid and even that made me feel icky. to see a whole compilation is just disturbing
I remember watching a YouTube video of someone going over Dan Schneider. It was a commentary YouTuber, but I forget who. They showed these clips, and it was the first time I ever remember seeing something in a video that I actually had to skip because of how uncomfortable it made me feel. That shit was just so damn weird.
Edit: I didn't even watch this video. I skimmed over it and saw there were extra clips. The YouTuber only showed the clips of her talking to the camera on the bed.
Edit 2: The YouTuber was Philion
It's just a reminder that behind closed doors the rich and powerful are able to get away with A LOT. I'd be surprised if there WASN'T a lot of shit that happened behind the scenes of a lot of things that we just don't know about, as the public.
Quintin Reviews maybe? He has a 9(?) hour series on Victorious and a 4 hour video on Sam and Cat. Both series go into not just a retrospective look at each show, but also the absolutely weird and bonkers shit that Dan Schneider made the female cast members do for the "bonus content"
The potato bit is actually featured in the new quiet on set documentary 3 min in, I had to step away and just reflect on if I really wanted to continue
You have to. It is uncomfortable, but I feel like we should know the cost of the entertainment that some of us grew up with because it can't / shouldn't happen again. Especially what happened to Drake Bell.
I forced myself to continue after a few minutes and then I had to fully take a break after I finished part 3 with Drake Bell. I plan on finishing it tonight after work but I just couldn't take any more for the night. It's pretty heavy.
Yea it's good that she doesn't have a substance abuse problem (that we know of) but it's obvious that she is not a well adjusted person. Who could be when you're surrounded by creeps your whole childhood?
The people at Nickelodeon enabled Dan Schneider's behaviour and he'll get away with it because of them.
what makes u say its obvious that shes not a well adjusted person? i dont keep up with celebrities
downvoted for asking an honest question, fuck it forget i asked i guess
I never watched this show but what the fresh fuck is this? What could the premise possibly be other than sexualizing a child for other children to view? This feels like grooming of Ariana but of the potential audience to think this kind of suggestive behavior is acceptable.
never saw the show, never saw these clips. Heard about the issues with Dan, just kind of blindly accepted them as true, and assumed it could be overexaggerated...
It wasn't. God fucking damn, how was this allowed?
I went on a deep dive into this Dan Schneider shit a while back. It goes REALLY deep and it’s very possible Ariana wouldn’t be where she is today without some of the shady stuff Dan Schneider coerced her (privately) into doing..
The only good thing about this video was when I noticed that Jade fixed her skirt for her when she was lying on the ground. It’s very clear she realized what was going on.
The question was more along the lines of "how is this okay for the rest of the world who didn't make any money off it".
Obviously the reason it *exists* is money..
I can only speculate, obviously. My first thought is it's easy to see it for what it is when it's put together in a super comp and published in a time when we're much more aware of the rampant sexual abuse in the film and tv industry but maybe it wasn't as obvious when it was once in a blue moon in a show that was certainly popular but not really genre defining.
But my second thought is a line from Lord of War. "The ones who know don't care anymore and the ones who care don't know."
>I'm mature for my age
If Dan wrote that line in himself he's brazen on top of being disgusting.
It's just frustrating to see somebody being such a shithead in plain sight and facing no consequences.
Don't forget, it's just not Arirana, he has been doing this with other shows. Earliest one I can remember was the Amanda show where she would sit in a blow up pool with a bikini.
[Edit]
Just seen the clip in insta as it's making the rounds being viral.
It's really bad.
I’m super scared to watch the video cause I’m hearing the potato squealing is awful but in all honesty that sounds too absurd to not be funny.
Edit: Ohhhhhhhhh dear.
His press team released a video on youtube where he’s trying to “apologize”. I wont be linking it bc lets not give them any ad money.
Funnily enough in the first 30 seconds they try to play it off as BooG!e contacting him for the interview? Even though its clearly his press team’s yt.
I really don't understand how anyone is surprised and acting like this is new information. The rumors been going around for years and just seeing a few clips of his shows quickly shows something strange has always been there. That's why i was surprised sam and cat even happened
I was hoping there would be some kind of commentary or something and not just a supercut of weird, uncomfortable clips.
I turned it off when she was squealing at a potato. I feel like I need a shower
It’s okay, according to Dan you’re just “projecting your adult mind” on to these innocent videos of an underage girl sucking her toes
Teenagers are having sex anyways so what’s the difference, so if a 42 year old man wants to engage with a teen what’s the problem she’s more then likely doing it with the high school football joc. ( according to Dan)
Bro I thought you were a creep until your (according to Dan)
Yeah same
I was about to flip out at the amount of upvotes
Same here, they had me at the first half lol
Jfc, had us in the first half
Almost a Hol Up
Lucky you. You didn't make it to the water bottle scene. How was no one on this production saying anything?
Terrible power dynamic. Nobody to go and tell
I have actually worked in the film industry. So I kinda understand. A huge part of it is probably the fact that the paychecks are generally fat on a film set. But I will also say that I never saw anything like this on a set. (And I did work one of Disney's flagship shows). But if I did. I'm pretty sure I'd throw away my career to see justice. I just don't think I could live with myself, with the knowledge of it, without saying something.
Fucking vile shit
the bathing scene and the last 30 seconds make the rest of the thing look downright innocent
Am i missing something about the bath scene? That one actually just seemed like a random goofy scene. She was fully clothed and there was a lot of bubbles just seemed stupid. What the hell is going on in the blooper when they’re on the floor what does ariana say about her skirt i can hear ? Did she say my coochie is showing and and someone on set said thats the best thing i ever heard ?? Or am I tripping lol
That's exactly what it sounds like because she tries to cover her legs directly after. Fucking *what*. Just whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. Oh my god, sympathies to any young actors or actresses who had to work around that. FFS. That'll leave scars that may not heal for a long time.
Seriously what the fuck
That's about when I tapped out too. Takes a lot to make me genuinely cringe these days, but that did it.
I stopped at the exact same spot and feel the same way. Don’t need to see anymore.
Even worse when she started spitting classic Nazi lines at it like "give up the Jews"
Was that an out take or like... actually on a kids show...I don't understand....I don't want to.
If you watch the 4 part documentary you will see all of the context. It’s on ID and Max.
whats it called
Quiet on Set
Thank you!
I started watching it, then felt like I was the wierd one...
There is something to be said for experiencing things first hand and forming your own opinion, rather than viewing something from a commentators view point. Yes it's extremely uncomfortable, but it's an education on the reality of the predatory world. Know thy enemy.
There's an HBO doc *Quiet on Set* that brought this all up recently. It is pretty uncomfortable all around.
This is pretty wild man, I knew about Schneider but never seen these clips of Ariana. That potato bro
Ariana was one of the ones who got it the worst, it's just not spoken about in the same way as people who have come out about the abuse they suffered. I think because Ariana has never said anything publicly about the treatment she received.
My respect to the people who don't let the sickos off quietly for what they did, and the people who don't let what they went through stop them from reaching their goals. The sad part though, is that the system doesn't usually let you be both those people. No one should have to choose, but no judgement on the choice they do make.
I dunno what's worse, the potato or the water bottle
the upside down on the bed "I'm thirsty" is probably the worst one tbh. Can't believe how long stuff like that went on for (and realistically still is)
After watching these clips, not knowing very much about the people mentioned, I get the sense these were clips from some kind of kids/young teenager show? Which then had me questioning why we have made it okay to sexualize an underage girl to be watched by primarily underage viewers. It's good that we have been "canceling" people for fucked up shit they did in the past. But we should be actively canceling this kind of shit when it happens.
People were actively complaining the entire time. But they were usually mocked as being too sensitive. It used to be all over the IMDb forums.
Dw as kids we thought it was weird too😭😭
These shows should just be removed tbh (or at least heavily edited to remove clips that have a pornographic sentiment)… even Dan’s latest quote: “If there was an actual problem with the scenes that some people, now years later are ‘sexualizing,’ they would be taken down, but they are not, they are aired constantly all over the world today still, enjoyed by both kids and parents.” And honestly, as much as we all want to point the finger at Dan, it was a collective culture that approved this, and the fact that entertainment giants still give these shows a platform, shows that it’s not just Dan that’s the problem.
It shows it's been the normal for a very long time for them. At least it's finally being brought to light but untold damage has already dealt and continue to be made
Everyone on those sets should have their computers checked, holy crap.
Water bottle 1,000,000%. Some of this stuff would be totally okay if it was cut shorter like the water gun scene even
The water bottle. Facialabuse bs
Looks more piss fetish to me. Grim either way
There’s a scene from Amanda show and it’s the SAME exact thing too. She was covered in mud and It’s 3 men hosing her down with fire hoses.
For me, it's when she's lying on the floor with Liz gillies, knocking off, and when the cameraman comes up the two abruptly sit up and liz gillies goes to fix ariana grande's skirt. The way she does that just seems hyperaware to me. They weren't doing anything wrong or weird, they were both fully covered, but Liz gillies felt the need to pull ariana grande's skirt down further. It just seems like a weird way for a kid to do something that was already weird on its own.
Both.
the water bottle one looks like she's trying to waterboard herself
If you haven't read "I'm Glad My Mom Died" by Jeanette McCurdy, I highly recommend it. It touches a bit on what a complete shitstain Dan Schneider is. She uses an alias for him (likely for legal reasons), but it's clear who she's talking about.
“The Creator” I just finished it yesterday. Fuck all those people.
Wow I didn’t know she wrote a book, I’m definitely going to read it.
I listened to the audiobook and if those are your thing at all 10/10 recommend. She narrates it herself and her cadence and inflections were perfect, felt like a friend telling me a story about their life
It’s a tough read. Her mom was seriously mentally ill.
Yeah, I’ve followed her life for some years now, and all of the Schneider stuff and it’s pretty fucked up, it’s so sad that there’s parents abusing and exploiting their children for some fame. I guess I’m going to learn much more about the mother now. Thanks for recommending the book.
Her mom was an extreme narcissist. I grew up with a mom like Janet's but worse. If you want more stories of parents like her, browse r/raisedbynarcissists. You'll be surprised at how common parents like her are.
Get the audiobook if you can. It started off as a 1 woman show and her reading of it adds a lot.
I doubt I'll read it but got any excerpts from the book?
[GoodReads](https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/93537110-i-m-glad-my-mom-died) has some strong quotes. It’s honestly worth the read or the listen. Jeanette McCurdy narrates the audiobook, and I feel it’s more inflected as intended in her voice.
Thank you for this. I feel bad for her. Someone give her a hug ASAP. I might check it out
I listened to the book on Spotify, spoken by herself. Really liked it.
Nice one
Yeah I’d recommend the audiobook if you’re not into reading, it’s a great listen
It made me fall in love with reading again. One of my fav reads of all time. Her audiobook is read by her - highly recommend.
I read it and you can see Jeanette’s face during the bath scene that she is just uncomfortable. Going through the motions
Such a devastating but fantastic read.
Did anybody else understand that it was implied that it was because of Ariana that she didn’t get to direct the final episode?
I really feel like that was the case.
This book was SOOOO good. I recommande it to everyone
Dan Schneider needs to rot away in a fucking prison for the rest of his miserable life. Better yet, he should be rotting away under a fucking prison.
How tf did some of this videos got even made? Like the toes, potato and drinking water were so obvious it hurt
It's just funny and quirky behavior!! The same kind of stuff people do to exploit their children for social media and when criticized they try to flip it and say if you see it as sexual or wrong then you're the pervert.
Dude holy shit, I don’t know what’s more disturbing. The fact that Schneider made her do this shit, or the fact that Nickelodeon actually aired this and little kids are shown this *funny and quirky behavior!* being done by their favorite characters. Dan Schneider’s evasion of prison is proof that anything is possible.
Jaclyn and Wren on tiktok where the mom posts a video of her child eating hotdogs and the comments are filled with men commenting "I came"
I think Dan just had too much creative control. Nickelodeon only got rid of him once he stopped producing hit after hit and his shows got worse and worse.
It's obvious when It's cut and focuses on just those clips. In the context of the sitcom most people probably ignores what's going on
I seriously don't know, Those I mention where just too obvious, the potato one my god no way that's something that can go unnoticed
Because it's not only Dan that's a creep in Nickelodeon
That was....something. Where were her parents while this was going on? I'm sorry, but if your script calls for my daughter to double fist a potato while saying 'give up the juice,' we're gonna have a long talk.
Most child stars parents don’t care because they are getting rich from this.
This and fear if you do say something then they’ll fire your cash cow
That but also some of the kids genuinely enjoy the acting, and speaking up could get the kid removed/fired. At least one of the reasons given by a parent on Quiet on Set ep 1
Man they really think that’s a good reason, too. “But my child *enjoys* being exploited!” Seriously?? as the parent, it’s their job to protect the child. I get that acting may be the child’s dream and it’s sad to feel like you’re taking that away. But you’re also taking away the trauma they’re enduring!
People experience trauma differently. Just because something is traumatic for one person doesnt mean it will be for all people. Take war for example. Most people will be traumatized by there are some who just wont care.
Sure, but if you send a kid off to war thinking "not EVERYONE gets PTSD" you're still a terrible parent.
What if they tell you but daaaaad i love killing people! And then they show you vids of them fortnight dancing over piles of bodies and teabagging em?
Parents? Permanent vacation.
That last clip is weird af. They both look like they were caught doing something wrong. Everyone just looks uncomfortable around Dan.
The way they both immediately look uncomfortable and Ariana tries to pull her hair over her chest while the other girl fixes her skirt is just so revealing and sad.
She does the little pat on the leg too. That’s the “straighten up someone creepy is around” pat my sisters taught me
I think Ariana yells right at the beginning "everyone can see that puss," which is totally in keeping with what a ~16 year old might joke about while in that position and with friends, but less so when there's a creepy old man filming her.
Watch the icarly BTS clips. The iCarly cast seem are “cleaner” than the victorious cast so their reactions to Dan are even more alarming. Miranda literally runs away at a point and Jerry Trainer steps in to help her.
Ugh dude is legit the creepy uncle
The one with her sticking her finger down her throat is insane
Disturbing. Dan Schneider is a pig.
Do not insult pigs. Pigs are awesome.
Pig implies they add something to society
There’s a great documentary called quiet on set about all of this. It just came out with its 4th episode. It’s on HBO max. It’s the best made breakdown because it interviews people who experienced working with Dan, all other docs that cover the situation are amateur (still some good ones) YouTube videos
Hate that something that serious is locked behind a paywall. Feels like the kind of thing that needs to be exposed, not monetized
If they weren’t making any money they wouldn’t be around to expose stuff. If you really don’t want to pay the $15 month or whatever subscription just pirate it.
so then how do the creators get paid ..?
It also airs on cable on Investigation Discovery. It just happens to be streaming on Max because the network is a Warner Discovery property.
I don’t know if it’s because of her amazing RBF, but I always thought that Elizabeth Gillies was the only one who *visibly* expressed disgust about what was going on. Seems like she tried her best to “protect” Ariana’s dignity
The part where she pulls Ariana's skirt down for her is pretty telling
And then looking at the camera like a deer frozen in headlights before nervously laughing it off with Ariana.
Cameraman YANKS camera off focus. Fuck the crew they knew
I can't stop watching the way she pulls Ariana's skirt down and pats her leg. It's so revealing
Elizabeth was also unfortunately a victim of grooming. Her husband met her at age 16 and he was a producer on set
Oh my god that’s horrific!
Yeah, Liz and Jennette were *not* having it.
That cat bath scene looks like it's from some kind of particularly fucked up Always Sunny episode.
I can see that, Jennette McCurdy legit looks like Sweet Dee there. It's pretty descipicable that Nickelodeon choose to air these scenes.
I never noticed ts was weird as a kid. bro wtf this is nasty
I mean, hiding [double entendres in childrens' media](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10485491/amp/Rude-double-entendres-childrens-TV-films-revealed.html) is old af and happens all the time. It's designed to go over the childrens' head as a joke for their otherwise bored parents stuck watching the show with them. So it's not surprising you didn't catch the innuendo, it's designed that way. Normally it's mostly pretty harmless because it's just like, a rude joke the kids won't understand, but the stuff in OP's clip crossed the line because it's not just a hidden sexual joke but actively sexualizing an underage actress.
Especially because the character of Cat is designed to be extra immature / infantilized. The whole thing is just beyond creepy and has gotten to the point where even pet names like baby or babe just grosses me out. Infantilizing sex in any scenario is disgusting, especially when it's like this with underage actresses, even if it's designed as "a joke".
I agree with your entire commentary. In fact it was super common with a lot of the cartoons oriented towards Millennials and Older Gen Z in the 2000s to early 2010s like the Fairy Odd Parents. That entire show was that but they were cartoons. I never got into Victorious because of this, it felt weird. Now I know why. The innuendo wasn't fun when it was with a real live person. Even if it was acting.
the second clip with the water guns is the only one i actually saw as a kid and even that made me feel icky. to see a whole compilation is just disturbing
Wow what the fuck did I just watch.
Clips from Dan Get-in-the-van Schneider’s show Victorious. The latest buzz due to the new documentary series Quiet on Set
Dan "Hold her tighter she's a fighter" Schneider
I remember watching a YouTube video of someone going over Dan Schneider. It was a commentary YouTuber, but I forget who. They showed these clips, and it was the first time I ever remember seeing something in a video that I actually had to skip because of how uncomfortable it made me feel. That shit was just so damn weird. Edit: I didn't even watch this video. I skimmed over it and saw there were extra clips. The YouTuber only showed the clips of her talking to the camera on the bed. Edit 2: The YouTuber was Philion
It's just a reminder that behind closed doors the rich and powerful are able to get away with A LOT. I'd be surprised if there WASN'T a lot of shit that happened behind the scenes of a lot of things that we just don't know about, as the public.
Quintin Reviews maybe? He has a 9(?) hour series on Victorious and a 4 hour video on Sam and Cat. Both series go into not just a retrospective look at each show, but also the absolutely weird and bonkers shit that Dan Schneider made the female cast members do for the "bonus content"
Quinton? Now there’s a man one can trust on the topic of being uncomfortably obsessed with a woman!
Was it blameitonjorge? I know he’s not exactly a commentary Youtuber but his video had a lot of really uncomfortable clips in it.
Philion. I had to go back and make sure, but it was Philion's video.
The potato bit is actually featured in the new quiet on set documentary 3 min in, I had to step away and just reflect on if I really wanted to continue
You have to. It is uncomfortable, but I feel like we should know the cost of the entertainment that some of us grew up with because it can't / shouldn't happen again. Especially what happened to Drake Bell.
I forced myself to continue after a few minutes and then I had to fully take a break after I finished part 3 with Drake Bell. I plan on finishing it tonight after work but I just couldn't take any more for the night. It's pretty heavy.
Where are y'all watching these if you don't mind my asking
HBO max and it's also on amazon prime which is where I watched it. I'm sure you can also find sites to pirate it from pretty easily too
Looks like it’s on HBO max
Thank you
What did happen with him?
If you don't mind, what's the thing with Drake Bell? All I've heard is the recent-ish stuff about him and underage girls (I think)
That potato scene was fucked up
Big ups to ariana grande for not turning to drugs. I cant say i wouldnt if i were in her position.
Yea it's good that she doesn't have a substance abuse problem (that we know of) but it's obvious that she is not a well adjusted person. Who could be when you're surrounded by creeps your whole childhood? The people at Nickelodeon enabled Dan Schneider's behaviour and he'll get away with it because of them.
what makes u say its obvious that shes not a well adjusted person? i dont keep up with celebrities downvoted for asking an honest question, fuck it forget i asked i guess
she turned to alcohol a lot a few years back.
For sure, looking at this I've got a new found respect for her. If this is on screen what was going on off screen
She became a home wrecker though.
I never watched this show but what the fresh fuck is this? What could the premise possibly be other than sexualizing a child for other children to view? This feels like grooming of Ariana but of the potential audience to think this kind of suggestive behavior is acceptable.
never saw the show, never saw these clips. Heard about the issues with Dan, just kind of blindly accepted them as true, and assumed it could be overexaggerated... It wasn't. God fucking damn, how was this allowed?
This is more than sad cringe. It’s straight up revolting.
[Let's all not forget about the many, many unsettling tweets too.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZq9ZiSXcAAKo-8.jpg)
😭omg That is fucked up!
Bruh
Pink Guy's - Nickelodeon Girls really was before it's time pointing out how creepy it is
I wouldn’t say before it’s time. Dan “hold her tighter she’s a fighter” Schneider was a bit of meme before he made that song.
I went on a deep dive into this Dan Schneider shit a while back. It goes REALLY deep and it’s very possible Ariana wouldn’t be where she is today without some of the shady stuff Dan Schneider coerced her (privately) into doing..
The only good thing about this video was when I noticed that Jade fixed her skirt for her when she was lying on the ground. It’s very clear she realized what was going on.
the uvula one is the worst i've ever seen
How in the actual fuck is this okay
Honest answer? Money. To be clear I'm not saying money makes everything okay to me. That's just why it was okay for everyone involved.
The question was more along the lines of "how is this okay for the rest of the world who didn't make any money off it". Obviously the reason it *exists* is money..
I can only speculate, obviously. My first thought is it's easy to see it for what it is when it's put together in a super comp and published in a time when we're much more aware of the rampant sexual abuse in the film and tv industry but maybe it wasn't as obvious when it was once in a blue moon in a show that was certainly popular but not really genre defining. But my second thought is a line from Lord of War. "The ones who know don't care anymore and the ones who care don't know."
I physically recoiled.
wtf how old she was?
16 when the show started. 😐
>I'm mature for my age If Dan wrote that line in himself he's brazen on top of being disgusting. It's just frustrating to see somebody being such a shithead in plain sight and facing no consequences.
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Pete & Pete's big scandal was the Ice Cream Man's identity, and the way the inspector stacked chicken wing bones.
Wasn’t she just 16 during victorious?
Nickelodeon Weinstein says what?
My wife and I watch the docu-series on Dan Schneider and holy shit. Drake Bell had us both in tears
Don't forget, it's just not Arirana, he has been doing this with other shows. Earliest one I can remember was the Amanda show where she would sit in a blow up pool with a bikini. [Edit] Just seen the clip in insta as it's making the rounds being viral. It's really bad.
Everyone talking about the potato and water bottle but did yall miss the uvula clip...?
I’m super scared to watch the video cause I’m hearing the potato squealing is awful but in all honesty that sounds too absurd to not be funny. Edit: Ohhhhhhhhh dear.
I feel gross, I'm gonna take a shower.
As a kid I didn't think anything of it as a 26 year old man I felt a little gross watching it.
Poor Ariana
I just started the documentary about him Quiet On Set… im 15 minutes in and already uncomfortable
This is so fucked up.
Dan Schneider is a degenerate fuck.
Ok so my kids watched her and I thought she was annoying but now I’m embarrassed I let my kids watch
It's crazy that this aired on TV.
Jesus Christ this was uncomfortable to watch wtf
That was extremely uncomfortable, wrong in so many ways
What in the fuck
Welcome to Hollyweird :(
The water bottle clip is insane. Feels like I got *way* too much information on what this fucks search history looks like.
TheSlap crap feels like those cheap ass not well know porn sites
Juice from a potato, eh? "No, no Ari, choke it like you mean it!" Take 7!
Aw hell naaah. Lock him up.
whats with her parents for all this???
Anyone reading the comments should watch Quiet on Set on Hulu.
His press team released a video on youtube where he’s trying to “apologize”. I wont be linking it bc lets not give them any ad money. Funnily enough in the first 30 seconds they try to play it off as BooG!e contacting him for the interview? Even though its clearly his press team’s yt.
I feel guilty for even watching that show as kid
Director, producer, all of them need to get a visit from FBI computer forensics.
Investigation Discovery made “Quiet on Set: The Dark Side of Kids TV” I recommend it, it’s sad what many of them had to go through.
Oh this wasn't the only time, and don't even get me started on the Icarly bikini episode, it's sad what those kids went through
That juicing the potato part was insane how did this get aired on tv 😂 I feel so bad for Ariana grande and everyone else who had to work with Dan
How was this allowed ? It’s blatant …
What the fuck
Holy shit
This is fucking repulsive
This is insanity
Bro wtf.
What in the actual fuck
I really don't understand how anyone is surprised and acting like this is new information. The rumors been going around for years and just seeing a few clips of his shows quickly shows something strange has always been there. That's why i was surprised sam and cat even happened
Literally none of this is sexual unless you yourself perceive it that way