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Bayern supported Hernandez throughout his injury and wanted to extend his contract despite him not playing the majority of last season yet he just leaves for Paris. Guess that’s where Scholls reaction is coming from
4 seasons at bayern and he only played 74 out of 136 league games and many of those werent over the full 90 either. Even back at Atletico he only had a single season where he played more than 20 games.
True, but Pogba did play 226 for Man Utd over 6 seasons, or 37 games a season. Definitely had lots of injuries, but still managed to get on the pitch enough.
He played in 39% of all Bundesliga minutes since being the record transfer fee for Bayern Munich. That's a complete failure no matter how well he played in those 1 out of 3 matches he actually made it on the field.
In the end Lucas Hernandez to PSG was so obvious and fitting for a player who bizzarly teeters on being world class yet absolutely invisible with host of off the field issues and no loyalty motivated by money and branding exposure.
Couldn't make it at a big club, so he goes to a big brand.
While this sentiment is mostly true, I feel like in Lucas's case its different. He arrived at a gigantic fee, needed some time to get into the first eleven and was out with big injuries for long stretches. Still, the board and fans were always behind him. And thats pretty rare at Bayern cause a lot of them are assholes.
“Loyalty” lmao. The club isn’t loyal to him if he is shit. The fans aren’t loyal to him if he is shit. It’s a career for him. Maybe there would be som to be said if he was from Munich or came through the Bayern academy. But he didn’t
I know RVP was quite injury prone during his time with Arsenal but he still played almost 300 games over 8 years. Last season before the move, he played all 38 games, scoring 30, winning Golden Boot. Not sure if the situation is at all similar.
RvP was in and out of the physio room for most of his career with Arsenal up until the last 18 months of his career where he was injury free (this is about 70-80 games across all comps out of his 300 game career). Sure enough, without injuries van Persie was the best player in the league and won the Golden Boot. Arsenal fans thought "this is the player we've been nursing for the last decade finally turning into a star" and then he said fuck it I'm not renewing and left for our biggest rivals.
I'd say RvP's case is even worse because Arsenal invested almost a decade in him.
Ding ding ding
Sure his comments on the ambitions of the club, whatever, blah, blah, maybe some of his words helped- but you can separate the two, we literally made sure he didn’t fall into obscurity and paid for his life in London and fucked off the second he got attention, and in a very disrespectful way too, like a straight fuck you to Arsene, the man who kept him around and kept giving him minutes regardless haha…
The most talented piece of shit I’ve ever seen, at least we’re gone from most of that now
The letter was out of order, but honestly I believe on some level Wenger was pretty happy to sell him. The club weren't willing to match his ambitions at that time, he only had a couple of years at the top level left in those legs, and I think Wenger knew that. He could've kept him for another year, but Wenger valued the cash more at the end of the day.
People forget Wenger could be ruthless too, which was important in those austerity years. He shoved Vieira out the moment his legs started to wane and Fabregas showed he could step up. I think he viewed most players as ultimately replaceable. The only one I think he was truly 'forced' to sell was Fabregas.
His karma is the fact that there isn't really any club he can go to that celebrates him as a hero/legend, him and Fabregas are not really liked by Arsenal fans and spent too little time at other clubs to be considered legends.
I'd argue he's very much considered a hero at United, given that he was part of the final title win under Ferguson, and played magnificently that season.
>and played magnificently that season.
If that is the criteria then United must have a lot of legends because hundreds of players have had single magnificent seasons. I totally get your point about him being part of the last title win though. Should united win another title I doubt his name will be mentioned much.
Definitely a Manchester United legend. The fans love him. The fact that our last league title is still that crazy RVP season has only added to it over the years. Maybe doesn't have the longevity but that isn't the only way to decide legend status.
Half his career was on our physio table and no matter what, Arsene always gave him time when he came back, it looked a case of what could be, but the club literally paid for him to continue to be looked after and cared for, all from Arsene’s belief and dedication (and some stubbornness)
So RVP isn’t injured and becomes the worlds best striker, almost like the club the believed in him and never let him fade away gave him the platform to relaunch his career spectacularly.
The man did what he wanted and it’s done, but it’s 100% still some of the shadiest shit I’ve seen, I loved that man- no one owes anyone anything in this world, but it’s just objective fact he fucked us when he got a spotlight after we paid his bills for years on years
Every player posting images from a match with "on to the next one/massive three points ✅👊🏼" after a win or the BS apologies after a loss has a social media team running the account. The only question is if the player also accesses the account and makes their own posts (which they're more likely to do via comments and stories rather than regular posts).
FM is carefully designed to make you stop listening to what literally anyone says - assistants, board, media, fans, players, whatever. The purpose of all those external stimuli is to clash with your lived experience and make you ignore them.
I once read that those fake tweets are always the same, one positive, one negative and one neutral and oh my god you start to see it all the time, it's always the same thing. Why even bother adding that "feature" if you're going to half ass it anyways, I can barely code in C# and I'm pretty sure I could make a fake social feed better than the one in FM.
Rashford PR firm is so fucking annoying. One of the reason why fans were so negative on him after 21/22 season. Dont forget the "get that head of yours up immediately" tweets he got to elanga
Dunno how to go and retrieve their comments, but Bastoni and Barella are the ones who comment the most on their teammates posts.
P.S. Bastoni seems to attract so many haters in the form of barca fans for some reason, it’s hilarious
> because the comments are almost identical. It's always "bro" followed by a couple of emojis".
I honestly believe that's just how they act. Pro footballers are just rich gym bros basically. The sanitized goodbye posts and stuff like that are from the social media team tho for sure. Like does Hernández even speak German enough to write up a post like that?
Somehow people always think it's 100% controlled by agencies. In reality both parties have access, statements are often done by a professional team but every player still can like, post or comment whatever they want. I don't think there is a single player out there who is "locked out" of his own accounts.
Tbf even if he wasn't constantly injured, I'd replace him with Kim in a heartbeat. Kim has papers to be the best one on the planet. I don't think Hernandez ever had a real shot to become the best even if he is very very good.
Isn't it kind of a bullshit myth tho that Robbery were "always injured". If that were the case, they couldn't have left that massive legacy or carried Bayern to all the trophies and international success in the way that they did.
they were injured a lot, just also separate from one another.
They played 187 games together, despite the 309 games Robben had for Bayern.
Then they also just had lots of smaller injuries in which they missed like 2-3 games; not a lot by itself, but it adds up and interrupts the rhythm.
So depends how you define "always", but they def both have very extensive injury records. If anything I'd say its all the more impressive how much of an impact these two have had on our club despite being injured all the time.
It does help that they were fit for crucial matches, but they def missed a ton. (cant find the exact number, but rough calculations suggest both missed out on about 170-200 matches for us. I'd say that's a lot, especially since neither were ever really candidate to sit out an entire match - this is a conservative guess as well, where I only calculated 8 games per CL season and 5 cup games, ignoring supercup or club world cup)
> They played 187 games together, despite the 309 games Robben had for Bayern.
> [...] these two have had on our club despite being injured all the time.
Again, the numbers and the exaggerated narrative don't add up. At all. If a players had 309 games and 187 of them were together, that's a very decent quote - considering we're talking about high speed, high intensity, often-fouled wingers that also played deep into their mid 30s. I think it's these terms like "all the time" and "always" that bother me. It's simply populist nonsense and pushes a factually false narrative. Considering how injury-prone and somewhat glass-cannon-y both players naturally are (esp before Bayern, only reason why RM sold Robben this cheap), their health record during their Bayern time has been an impressive success - and an important reason for their legendary careers.
Even if the sentiment is somewhat exaggerated, what's the point in scholl's statement..
Hernandez played extremely well for us, and always gave 100% when he was able to play, second he didn't drag the whole transfer thing out, he didn't try to strike out, so why not let the somewhat polite fiction stand.
Yeah, it's a pretty standard transfer without any drama or "saga" beforehand.
Also both sides win, we get a decent fee and Lucas more money and new challenge (he could be a leader for PSG defense).
Someone else on r/Bundesliga posted [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bundesliga/comments/14v7cgo/comment/jrbxe8w/)
> Let's be honest - the player comes to Bayern and sounds around to want to become a Bayern legend, perhaps to end his career here and to rise to the big ones and to pay tribute to the predecessor of his jersey number.
4 years later, in which he was injured for more than half of the time, the club offers him an extension despite his injury, more money, although he was already a record transfer and has blown up the salary structure and fully supports the player. However, the player gets offered more money at another club and disappears after he was desperate to extend just a few weeks before.
You may be right in general with your statement, but in this case the player has earned all the shit he gets thrown behind him and worked for himself.
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So this probably why this statement doenst hold any weight for Scholl.
And we have reason to be. The respective fees are almost the same, Kim is one year younger and way less injury prone. Hernández has played 104 games for us over 4 seasons. Kim's longest injury spell was 76 days (a bone fracture), whereas Hernández has had three injury spells longer than that, all ligament related.
I just Googled Kim's age and I'm shocked he's turning 27. I had never heard of him until last season (Napoli). I know CBs tend to bloom late then get to play for longer, but for comparison, I feel like I've known about Hernandez for a good 5-years or more.
I hope Kim is a massive success for you guys. Hernandez is obviously the better player but that means nothing when the guy is always injured. Amazing business selling him for €50m with just 1-year left on his contract and he only played 11 games last season. PSG are incredibly dumb not to wait until at least Jan for him and pick him up on a free, if he's even worth picking him.
> I had never heard of him until last season (Napoli). I know CBs tend to bloom late then get to play for longer, but for comparison, I feel like I've known about Hernandez for a good 5-years or more.
Probably because Kim started his career in the K league and then went to China and only arrived in Europe 2 years ago.
Also kinda wild that in the very next sentence you go on to say "Hernandez is obviously better" after just admitting that you didnt even know who Kim is a year ago lmao.
You know it's possible to experience more than one emotion? You can be excited for the next move but still be sad for leaving your old teammates and club behind.
In this case not really.
Ex-Player for Bayern that literally did all for the club and even waived parts of his salary back in the days as he was often injured up to the point when Hoeneß intervented and still paied him the full salary.
It's a kinda similar story of players that both went through a lot of injuries and got the full support of the club, while one gave it back and the other one leaves right now without really giving back anything.
Scholl may fell into a bit of disfavor with the old leadership of Bayern when he was a pundit and actively criticized them but this is far off from FC Hollywood.
Nun, soweit würde ich jetzt nicht gehen, aber glaube da dürften sich Deutsche Fans einig sein egal welchen Verein man unterstützt das Mehmet einer der besten deutschen Fußballer um die Jahrtausendwende war und gleichzeitig einer der größten What-If's überhaupt. Wenn einer in solchen Situationen das passende Wort hat dann er.
He right. It's all PR these days. It's also really weird how players instantly kiss or point at badges after a transfer.
Also very unbelievable when they act like they're club loyalists that tragically had to leave their club.
Only time in recent years I believed it was when Messi was in tears after leaving Barca due to crazy circumstances. I would've believed it if it happened to Totti in the past, Del Piero, Gerrard etc. I won't believe it from a player that was just a few years with a club and will kiss the new club's badge within week 1.
Yeah I find this quite weird too. If a player kisses a badge I see it as a sign of respect and appreciation to the club, but not that he wants to spend the rest of his life there and any attempt to leave should be seen as betrayal. It’s a football club not a cult.
> Only time in recent years I believed it was when Messi was in tears after leaving Barca due to crazy circumstances
What exactly were those crazy circumstances? Couldn't Messi have stayed if he wanted?
Nope. Barca’s finance was simply too inadequate to match La Liga’s “salary cap” requirement to resign Messi despite an agreed upon 50% wage cut to be put in place.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/37630716/impact-superstar-move-psg-clubs-him?platform=amp
Thats the chat gtp verion, sounds really close :D
Liebe Bayern-Fans,
heute möchte ich mich mit einem schweren Herzen von euch allen verabschieden. Es war eine unglaubliche Zeit hier in München, in der ich unvergessliche Momente erlebt habe und Teil einer außergewöhnlichen Mannschaft sein durfte.
Von dem Moment an, als ich das erste Mal das Bayern-Trikot überstreifte, fühlte ich eure leidenschaftliche Unterstützung. Jeder Applaus, jeder Gesang und jede euphorische Atmosphäre haben mich tief berührt und mich zu Höchstleistungen angespornt. Ihr seid das Herz und die Seele dieses großartigen Vereins, und ich bin stolz, Teil eurer Geschichte gewesen zu sein.
Ich möchte mich bei meinen Teamkollegen bedanken, mit denen ich so viele Siege und Titel feiern durfte. Ihr seid meine Brüder auf dem Platz und ich bin dankbar für jede Minute, die wir gemeinsam gekickt haben. Es war eine Ehre, an eurer Seite zu stehen und für den FC Bayern zu spielen.
Ein besonderer Dank geht auch an die Trainer, Betreuer, Mitarbeiter und alle, die hinter den Kulissen hart arbeiten, um uns Spieler bestmöglich zu unterstützen. Euer Einsatz und eure Hingabe sind unermesslich und ich werde euch vermissen.
Natürlich möchte ich mich auch bei den Fans bedanken, die Woche für Woche in die Allianz Arena gekommen sind, um uns anzufeuern. Eure Leidenschaft und bedingungslose Unterstützung haben den Unterschied gemacht. Egal ob in guten oder schwierigen Zeiten, ihr standet immer hinter uns. Ich werde eure Gesänge und eure Liebe für immer im Herzen tragen.
Nun beginnt ein neues Kapitel in meiner Karriere, und ich werde die Farben eines anderen Vereins tragen. Doch ich möchte betonen, dass ich immer ein Teil der Bayern-Familie bleiben werde. Ich werde die Spiele verfolgen, die Triumphe mit euch feiern und immer mit euch verbunden sein.
Vielen Dank, liebe Bayern-Fans, für all die wundervollen Jahre. Ich werde euch vermissen, aber die Erinnerungen und die Verbundenheit werden für immer bestehen bleiben.
Euer Lucas Hernandez #MiaSanMia
Lol, Scholl is genuinely one of the funniest guys in recent bundesliga history, he was essentially the lovechild of Robben and Thomas Müller, cacked up to 11 in terms of injuries and genuine humor.
He allways made interviews fun, when asked what he fears the most, he answerd "war and oliver kahn", when asked what he aspires to be in his next life he said "Ulis dog", he also said, that hes never gonna play golf, cuz "firstly its not a sport in my eyes and secondly I still have sex".
>What happened to being polite?
Scholl is known for speaking out his opinion over being polite. And some Bayern fans were actually disappointed by Lucas' immediate move after the club was loyal to him even after all those injuries. Scholl just expressed a similar sentiment as the one those Bayern supporters were having.
If everyone was polite and PC all the time, like most IG-accounts run by a PR team, there would be nothing to talk about. Besides, I don't even feel like this was rude in anyway. He just said what everyone was thinking reading that nonsense, without insulting him.
You are right about the first point, but this is still considered rude, the fact that it might be true doesn’t have bearing on whether something is rude or not.
If he were fat, bald and stupid, saying you are “fat, bald and stupid” to him would also be true, but also rude.
Calling someone stupid is an insult and not really comparable to this point.
But if someone who was fat and bald was saying that he's thin and has hair, then yeah telling them that you don't believe it is not really as rude as you imply with your example. Then again Scholl has no idea and is in no position to judge how Lucas actually feels. Maybe he really is leaving with a heavy heart. There are circumstances beyond money that might drive someone to do this. Family, Friends, can be anything.
Man I feel like modern fans really forgot that soccer used to be as drama riddled as wrestling. Nobody was ever polite and if they were people called them gentlemen and it was unusual.
AI Scan also says the declaration of indepence is mostly AI generated. Those things are not reliable yet.
Doesn‘t change the fact that the statement sucks
Nice little unnecessary boost to help feed the Bayern fans' circle jerk and exaggerate how much they were slighted and feel offended forever. Rather than Hollywood FC, their nickname should be Entitlement FC. It's a crime to not want to play for that club.
Man prem Fans and pundits are literally acting like Kane would be commiting a war crime if he left spurs for the Bundesliga but Bayern fans are wrong in feeling betrayed by player that had the ultimate support fair ebough
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why didn't you put the kissy face in the title it smh journalists these days
I did so originally, but automod removed it saying emojis aren't allowed in the title. So I had to post it without the emoji.
Game's gone
fucking robots
Literally 1984
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Bayern supported Hernandez throughout his injury and wanted to extend his contract despite him not playing the majority of last season yet he just leaves for Paris. Guess that’s where Scholls reaction is coming from
It's pretty wild how little game he has played in his almost decade long career
4 seasons at bayern and he only played 74 out of 136 league games and many of those werent over the full 90 either. Even back at Atletico he only had a single season where he played more than 20 games.
French Injury prone Diva Hey i seen this one before
I don't even know which player you are referring to!
Pogba - remember, Man United fans can only ever talk about their team
Or dembele
Martial, djibrill cisse. Anelka etc
Crazy that fans of a team think of players who played for their team before players who played for other teams!
True, but Pogba did play 226 for Man Utd over 6 seasons, or 37 games a season. Definitely had lots of injuries, but still managed to get on the pitch enough.
Oh I agree with you, I was just answering the comment above mine
Have you any idea how little that narrows it down?
Hey Ribery worked out wonderfully for us...
Giroud takes all their good vibes and strength
He played in 39% of all Bundesliga minutes since being the record transfer fee for Bayern Munich. That's a complete failure no matter how well he played in those 1 out of 3 matches he actually made it on the field. In the end Lucas Hernandez to PSG was so obvious and fitting for a player who bizzarly teeters on being world class yet absolutely invisible with host of off the field issues and no loyalty motivated by money and branding exposure. Couldn't make it at a big club, so he goes to a big brand.
Fans need to shut up about loyalty, why should a player be 'loyal' to an employer they have no affiliation to? Clubs are not loyal to players either
Those same fans the moment a player under-performs relative to their wages: "deadwood, stealing a living, leech, cancer, not fit to wear the shirt"
While this sentiment is mostly true, I feel like in Lucas's case its different. He arrived at a gigantic fee, needed some time to get into the first eleven and was out with big injuries for long stretches. Still, the board and fans were always behind him. And thats pretty rare at Bayern cause a lot of them are assholes.
“Loyalty” lmao. The club isn’t loyal to him if he is shit. The fans aren’t loyal to him if he is shit. It’s a career for him. Maybe there would be som to be said if he was from Munich or came through the Bayern academy. But he didn’t
The RVP special
Does Lucas also hears to the little boy inside him?
I know RVP was quite injury prone during his time with Arsenal but he still played almost 300 games over 8 years. Last season before the move, he played all 38 games, scoring 30, winning Golden Boot. Not sure if the situation is at all similar.
RvP was in and out of the physio room for most of his career with Arsenal up until the last 18 months of his career where he was injury free (this is about 70-80 games across all comps out of his 300 game career). Sure enough, without injuries van Persie was the best player in the league and won the Golden Boot. Arsenal fans thought "this is the player we've been nursing for the last decade finally turning into a star" and then he said fuck it I'm not renewing and left for our biggest rivals. I'd say RvP's case is even worse because Arsenal invested almost a decade in him.
Ding ding ding Sure his comments on the ambitions of the club, whatever, blah, blah, maybe some of his words helped- but you can separate the two, we literally made sure he didn’t fall into obscurity and paid for his life in London and fucked off the second he got attention, and in a very disrespectful way too, like a straight fuck you to Arsene, the man who kept him around and kept giving him minutes regardless haha… The most talented piece of shit I’ve ever seen, at least we’re gone from most of that now
The letter was out of order, but honestly I believe on some level Wenger was pretty happy to sell him. The club weren't willing to match his ambitions at that time, he only had a couple of years at the top level left in those legs, and I think Wenger knew that. He could've kept him for another year, but Wenger valued the cash more at the end of the day. People forget Wenger could be ruthless too, which was important in those austerity years. He shoved Vieira out the moment his legs started to wane and Fabregas showed he could step up. I think he viewed most players as ultimately replaceable. The only one I think he was truly 'forced' to sell was Fabregas.
His karma is the fact that there isn't really any club he can go to that celebrates him as a hero/legend, him and Fabregas are not really liked by Arsenal fans and spent too little time at other clubs to be considered legends.
I'd argue he's very much considered a hero at United, given that he was part of the final title win under Ferguson, and played magnificently that season.
>and played magnificently that season. If that is the criteria then United must have a lot of legends because hundreds of players have had single magnificent seasons. I totally get your point about him being part of the last title win though. Should united win another title I doubt his name will be mentioned much.
He got a standing ovation when he scored against us for Fenebache.
Definitely a Manchester United legend. The fans love him. The fact that our last league title is still that crazy RVP season has only added to it over the years. Maybe doesn't have the longevity but that isn't the only way to decide legend status.
Why Fabregas? putting him in the same category as RVP is weird
Half his career was on our physio table and no matter what, Arsene always gave him time when he came back, it looked a case of what could be, but the club literally paid for him to continue to be looked after and cared for, all from Arsene’s belief and dedication (and some stubbornness) So RVP isn’t injured and becomes the worlds best striker, almost like the club the believed in him and never let him fade away gave him the platform to relaunch his career spectacularly. The man did what he wanted and it’s done, but it’s 100% still some of the shadiest shit I’ve seen, I loved that man- no one owes anyone anything in this world, but it’s just objective fact he fucked us when he got a spotlight after we paid his bills for years on years
He’s right. It sounds like a PR statement. Most Bayern fans are happy to replace him with Kim
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"Raphael Crackane" lmao that's a couple letters away from disaster
A 'crack' in South America is a really good player.
And in Spain, where the language originated from.
Yeah Licha definitely runs his own account, no formal social-media management team would post a quarter of the comments that he does…
"Bro, you are fucked up." Man is going to outdo the legend of twitter Wayne Rooney.
Someone showed him Rooney’s Twitter and Licha was like “okay bitches watch this”
Think Bruno too. Dreams can't be buy is iconic now
nmecha lukas too sadly
Every player posting images from a match with "on to the next one/massive three points ✅👊🏼" after a win or the BS apologies after a loss has a social media team running the account. The only question is if the player also accesses the account and makes their own posts (which they're more likely to do via comments and stories rather than regular posts).
Reads like those social media posts on FM
"Decent game, decent result, onto the next match" after trouncing your arch-rivals 4-0 and securing 1st position in the league.
Striker scores 5 goals in a game “I’m not sure what everyone is going on about, Moukoko was alright but nothing to write home about”.
Does my head in. My winger dropped a 8.3 performance and Tim from Rochdale still isn't sure what everyone is going on about
FM is carefully designed to make you stop listening to what literally anyone says - assistants, board, media, fans, players, whatever. The purpose of all those external stimuli is to clash with your lived experience and make you ignore them.
I once read that those fake tweets are always the same, one positive, one negative and one neutral and oh my god you start to see it all the time, it's always the same thing. Why even bother adding that "feature" if you're going to half ass it anyways, I can barely code in C# and I'm pretty sure I could make a fake social feed better than the one in FM.
> Why even bother adding that "feature" if you're going to half ass it anyways That is the entire FM series.
I can't remember if it was Licha or Antony but "You are fucked up bro" was one of the funniest comments I've ever seen
Nothing will ever top Bailly telling Ibra to fuck off
Rashford PR firm is so fucking annoying. One of the reason why fans were so negative on him after 21/22 season. Dont forget the "get that head of yours up immediately" tweets he got to elanga
Supposedly, while he does a lot of tangible good, he's very Hollywood and very disingenuous. His social media kinda shows that as well
and then there's Inter players who always talk shit below each other's posts lmao
Hahaha do you have some examples of this my respect for inter will go even higher than already lmao
Lukaku's post on the 27th of may. Bastoni replies "Good job Rome finally the plane from London has arrived"
Or Onana telling Dumfries “How many times do I have to teach you how to score”
Dunno how to go and retrieve their comments, but Bastoni and Barella are the ones who comment the most on their teammates posts. P.S. Bastoni seems to attract so many haters in the form of barca fans for some reason, it’s hilarious
> because the comments are almost identical. It's always "bro" followed by a couple of emojis". I honestly believe that's just how they act. Pro footballers are just rich gym bros basically. The sanitized goodbye posts and stuff like that are from the social media team tho for sure. Like does Hernández even speak German enough to write up a post like that?
The German is really clean in a way that would be hard to do by a non native but has errors you wouldn't expect from a professional pr team.
It’s probably for the best, imo. Especially with what a cesspit those comment sections turn into.
Mudryk is another exception…
T.Silva too, he always likes chelsea fan accounts posts
I think his wife runs T.Silva's account.
If Richarlison has a social media team, I want to meet them
Richarlison either has the best PR team ever or runs it himself
Somehow people always think it's 100% controlled by agencies. In reality both parties have access, statements are often done by a professional team but every player still can like, post or comment whatever they want. I don't think there is a single player out there who is "locked out" of his own accounts.
Bruno's definitely isn't but yeah 99% are
There was a time where Bruno's social media team accidently posted a picture of Arsenal players on Bruno's account
my personal favourite is dinamo zagreb - tottenham 3:0, and joe hart's insta story: "job done ✅"
Why? His posts and most stories are the most generic ones imagineable
"dreams can't be buy"
His is probably a hybrid of himself and a PR team
That's probably the case with most footballers
Class can't be buy
What happened to his previous stepbrother?
Leeds legend Matty Klich runs his own.
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FC Hollywood
Well the genericness is kinda the point I guess.
Could be a PR statement, but it’s an unfriendly and low class way of responding.
Tbf even if he wasn't constantly injured, I'd replace him with Kim in a heartbeat. Kim has papers to be the best one on the planet. I don't think Hernandez ever had a real shot to become the best even if he is very very good.
Scholl is and always will be my favourite Bayern player.
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Too bad he (and Robbery) was always injured.
Isn't it kind of a bullshit myth tho that Robbery were "always injured". If that were the case, they couldn't have left that massive legacy or carried Bayern to all the trophies and international success in the way that they did.
they were injured a lot, just also separate from one another. They played 187 games together, despite the 309 games Robben had for Bayern. Then they also just had lots of smaller injuries in which they missed like 2-3 games; not a lot by itself, but it adds up and interrupts the rhythm. So depends how you define "always", but they def both have very extensive injury records. If anything I'd say its all the more impressive how much of an impact these two have had on our club despite being injured all the time. It does help that they were fit for crucial matches, but they def missed a ton. (cant find the exact number, but rough calculations suggest both missed out on about 170-200 matches for us. I'd say that's a lot, especially since neither were ever really candidate to sit out an entire match - this is a conservative guess as well, where I only calculated 8 games per CL season and 5 cup games, ignoring supercup or club world cup)
> They played 187 games together, despite the 309 games Robben had for Bayern. > [...] these two have had on our club despite being injured all the time. Again, the numbers and the exaggerated narrative don't add up. At all. If a players had 309 games and 187 of them were together, that's a very decent quote - considering we're talking about high speed, high intensity, often-fouled wingers that also played deep into their mid 30s. I think it's these terms like "all the time" and "always" that bother me. It's simply populist nonsense and pushes a factually false narrative. Considering how injury-prone and somewhat glass-cannon-y both players naturally are (esp before Bayern, only reason why RM sold Robben this cheap), their health record during their Bayern time has been an impressive success - and an important reason for their legendary careers.
Even if the sentiment is somewhat exaggerated, what's the point in scholl's statement.. Hernandez played extremely well for us, and always gave 100% when he was able to play, second he didn't drag the whole transfer thing out, he didn't try to strike out, so why not let the somewhat polite fiction stand.
Yeah, it's a pretty standard transfer without any drama or "saga" beforehand. Also both sides win, we get a decent fee and Lucas more money and new challenge (he could be a leader for PSG defense).
Someone else on r/Bundesliga posted [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bundesliga/comments/14v7cgo/comment/jrbxe8w/) > Let's be honest - the player comes to Bayern and sounds around to want to become a Bayern legend, perhaps to end his career here and to rise to the big ones and to pay tribute to the predecessor of his jersey number. 4 years later, in which he was injured for more than half of the time, the club offers him an extension despite his injury, more money, although he was already a record transfer and has blown up the salary structure and fully supports the player. However, the player gets offered more money at another club and disappears after he was desperate to extend just a few weeks before. You may be right in general with your statement, but in this case the player has earned all the shit he gets thrown behind him and worked for himself. Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) So this probably why this statement doenst hold any weight for Scholl.
Just me or his profile picture looks like stannis baratheon lol!
You are right It is just you
The mannis
Wehmet Woll
Not sure he gives a toss
He probably didn't even posted this by himself.
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No. His German is terrible.
A lot of Bayern fans are happy to replace him with Kim min jae anyways
And we have reason to be. The respective fees are almost the same, Kim is one year younger and way less injury prone. Hernández has played 104 games for us over 4 seasons. Kim's longest injury spell was 76 days (a bone fracture), whereas Hernández has had three injury spells longer than that, all ligament related.
I just Googled Kim's age and I'm shocked he's turning 27. I had never heard of him until last season (Napoli). I know CBs tend to bloom late then get to play for longer, but for comparison, I feel like I've known about Hernandez for a good 5-years or more. I hope Kim is a massive success for you guys. Hernandez is obviously the better player but that means nothing when the guy is always injured. Amazing business selling him for €50m with just 1-year left on his contract and he only played 11 games last season. PSG are incredibly dumb not to wait until at least Jan for him and pick him up on a free, if he's even worth picking him.
> I had never heard of him until last season (Napoli). I know CBs tend to bloom late then get to play for longer, but for comparison, I feel like I've known about Hernandez for a good 5-years or more. Probably because Kim started his career in the K league and then went to China and only arrived in Europe 2 years ago. Also kinda wild that in the very next sentence you go on to say "Hernandez is obviously better" after just admitting that you didnt even know who Kim is a year ago lmao.
What makes Hernandez "obviously the better player"?
He hadn't heard of Kim 2 years ago, so clearly he's shit
I literally always forgot that Hernandez was there. He was always injured.
We did too
Beside the obvious bitterness by Scholl, what is it that he doesnt believe exactly? :D Hernandez nasically said ty for the good times and bb :D
How about "Heavy heart" lol. Man was jumping at the Parisian bags the moment they were available.
You are deluding yourself if players wont jump for the huge bags at the moment they were available.
You know it's possible to experience more than one emotion? You can be excited for the next move but still be sad for leaving your old teammates and club behind.
Yes. And Lucas definitely isn't
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Kim isn't pretending to have been super devastated lol. Also I'm not sure leaving Napoli for Bayern is comparable to leaving Bayern for PSG
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I mean, he literally is. Whether he wrote it or not lol.
It definitely is comparable? At the end of the day they’re both leaving their respective clubs for a bigger bag
Moving from Napoli to Bayern is an upgrade. Bayern -> PSG.. not so much.
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Maybe he thinks Munich is a shit city to live in
Definitely less shit than riot capital
Kim is not coming here just for the money lol
It does read like a stock letter, no personal or unique elements to it at all.
Plymouth Argyle fan here, but respect to Mehmet!
Up the fookin greens I can't lie, i didn't know who you guys were until a fat kid on the internet
Hollywood FC never stops giving eh?
In this case not really. Ex-Player for Bayern that literally did all for the club and even waived parts of his salary back in the days as he was often injured up to the point when Hoeneß intervented and still paied him the full salary. It's a kinda similar story of players that both went through a lot of injuries and got the full support of the club, while one gave it back and the other one leaves right now without really giving back anything. Scholl may fell into a bit of disfavor with the old leadership of Bayern when he was a pundit and actively criticized them but this is far off from FC Hollywood.
Mehmet ist der einzige Mann auf der ganzen Welt, dem ich einen blasen würde.
ist auch nicht schwul wenns Mehmet ist, ist nur aus Respekt
These two comments are pure gold. Made my day.
Nun, soweit würde ich jetzt nicht gehen, aber glaube da dürften sich Deutsche Fans einig sein egal welchen Verein man unterstützt das Mehmet einer der besten deutschen Fußballer um die Jahrtausendwende war und gleichzeitig einer der größten What-If's überhaupt. Wenn einer in solchen Situationen das passende Wort hat dann er.
Istn Film-Zitat, aber evtl. meint /u/stepanovic es ja ernst :)
Haha gut das wusste ich nicht, ansonsten wir leben in 2023, wenn /u/stepanovic das ernst meint, gibt es daran auch nichts auszusetzen :)
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Wtf I saw this comment in a dream and now it exists
username checks out
Eh this is quite harmless. He was a pundit and "disappeared" from the public eye recently. I've seen English pundits post worse
How is this FC Hollywood?
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This but unironically.
Yeah isn't that reserved for when your players a fucking each other's wives?
He right. It's all PR these days. It's also really weird how players instantly kiss or point at badges after a transfer. Also very unbelievable when they act like they're club loyalists that tragically had to leave their club. Only time in recent years I believed it was when Messi was in tears after leaving Barca due to crazy circumstances. I would've believed it if it happened to Totti in the past, Del Piero, Gerrard etc. I won't believe it from a player that was just a few years with a club and will kiss the new club's badge within week 1.
I agree with but it’s also kinda weird how we treat kissing a badge like it’s some huge symbolic gesture.
Yeah I find this quite weird too. If a player kisses a badge I see it as a sign of respect and appreciation to the club, but not that he wants to spend the rest of his life there and any attempt to leave should be seen as betrayal. It’s a football club not a cult.
They literally do it to farm the supporters. Its fake behaviour.
Only because the supporters are there to be farmed.
> Only time in recent years I believed it was when Messi was in tears after leaving Barca due to crazy circumstances What exactly were those crazy circumstances? Couldn't Messi have stayed if he wanted?
Nope. Barca’s finance was simply too inadequate to match La Liga’s “salary cap” requirement to resign Messi despite an agreed upon 50% wage cut to be put in place. https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/37630716/impact-superstar-move-psg-clubs-him?platform=amp
At least they remembered to fill in the \[insert team name] prompts
There is nothing heartfelt about Hernandez’s message lol
Thats the chat gtp verion, sounds really close :D Liebe Bayern-Fans, heute möchte ich mich mit einem schweren Herzen von euch allen verabschieden. Es war eine unglaubliche Zeit hier in München, in der ich unvergessliche Momente erlebt habe und Teil einer außergewöhnlichen Mannschaft sein durfte. Von dem Moment an, als ich das erste Mal das Bayern-Trikot überstreifte, fühlte ich eure leidenschaftliche Unterstützung. Jeder Applaus, jeder Gesang und jede euphorische Atmosphäre haben mich tief berührt und mich zu Höchstleistungen angespornt. Ihr seid das Herz und die Seele dieses großartigen Vereins, und ich bin stolz, Teil eurer Geschichte gewesen zu sein. Ich möchte mich bei meinen Teamkollegen bedanken, mit denen ich so viele Siege und Titel feiern durfte. Ihr seid meine Brüder auf dem Platz und ich bin dankbar für jede Minute, die wir gemeinsam gekickt haben. Es war eine Ehre, an eurer Seite zu stehen und für den FC Bayern zu spielen. Ein besonderer Dank geht auch an die Trainer, Betreuer, Mitarbeiter und alle, die hinter den Kulissen hart arbeiten, um uns Spieler bestmöglich zu unterstützen. Euer Einsatz und eure Hingabe sind unermesslich und ich werde euch vermissen. Natürlich möchte ich mich auch bei den Fans bedanken, die Woche für Woche in die Allianz Arena gekommen sind, um uns anzufeuern. Eure Leidenschaft und bedingungslose Unterstützung haben den Unterschied gemacht. Egal ob in guten oder schwierigen Zeiten, ihr standet immer hinter uns. Ich werde eure Gesänge und eure Liebe für immer im Herzen tragen. Nun beginnt ein neues Kapitel in meiner Karriere, und ich werde die Farben eines anderen Vereins tragen. Doch ich möchte betonen, dass ich immer ein Teil der Bayern-Familie bleiben werde. Ich werde die Spiele verfolgen, die Triumphe mit euch feiern und immer mit euch verbunden sein. Vielen Dank, liebe Bayern-Fans, für all die wundervollen Jahre. Ich werde euch vermissen, aber die Erinnerungen und die Verbundenheit werden für immer bestehen bleiben. Euer Lucas Hernandez #MiaSanMia
Mehmet Troll
i really don’t know the context here. what was the disconnect with him and bayern supporters
[I think Kerry put it quite well](https://www.sport1.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/2023/06/der-fc-bayern-hat-sich-in-hernandez-getauscht-kommentar)
Gotta love Mehmet Scholl for the truth talk. Also shat on the German youth development system years earlier, rightfully so.
Why though? What happened to being polite? The guy is saying goodbye to his club and the dude shits on him. I bet he’s a right laugh at parties.
Lol, Scholl is genuinely one of the funniest guys in recent bundesliga history, he was essentially the lovechild of Robben and Thomas Müller, cacked up to 11 in terms of injuries and genuine humor. He allways made interviews fun, when asked what he fears the most, he answerd "war and oliver kahn", when asked what he aspires to be in his next life he said "Ulis dog", he also said, that hes never gonna play golf, cuz "firstly its not a sport in my eyes and secondly I still have sex".
> "firstly its not a sport in my eyes and secondly I still have sex". 😂
To clarify, this was in the 90s before Tiger.
Sounds like he has a sense of humour at least then.
>What happened to being polite? Scholl is known for speaking out his opinion over being polite. And some Bayern fans were actually disappointed by Lucas' immediate move after the club was loyal to him even after all those injuries. Scholl just expressed a similar sentiment as the one those Bayern supporters were having.
>Scholl is known for speaking out his opinion over being polite. Yeah, that was my point.
If everyone was polite and PC all the time, like most IG-accounts run by a PR team, there would be nothing to talk about. Besides, I don't even feel like this was rude in anyway. He just said what everyone was thinking reading that nonsense, without insulting him.
You are right about the first point, but this is still considered rude, the fact that it might be true doesn’t have bearing on whether something is rude or not. If he were fat, bald and stupid, saying you are “fat, bald and stupid” to him would also be true, but also rude.
Calling someone stupid is an insult and not really comparable to this point. But if someone who was fat and bald was saying that he's thin and has hair, then yeah telling them that you don't believe it is not really as rude as you imply with your example. Then again Scholl has no idea and is in no position to judge how Lucas actually feels. Maybe he really is leaving with a heavy heart. There are circumstances beyond money that might drive someone to do this. Family, Friends, can be anything.
Man I feel like modern fans really forgot that soccer used to be as drama riddled as wrestling. Nobody was ever polite and if they were people called them gentlemen and it was unusual.
HOLLYWOOD!
I too would like to win all the silverware while being injured. Tata
This is so stupid
Petty response by a grown ass man
Classy
Lmao who in their right mind would leave Bayern for PSG? Can't wait for the memes if Bayern end up outing them in UCL next season.
Again xd
AI scan says 95% ChatGPT generated statement, yeah I don’t belueve a single word either
AI Scan also says the declaration of indepence is mostly AI generated. Those things are not reliable yet. Doesn‘t change the fact that the statement sucks
> AI Scan also say‘s the declaration of independence is mostly AI generated. Finally the proof that time travel exists.
The Founding Fathers took the easy way.
Jefferson was definitely quiet quitting and no one caught on.
Those are random number generators.
Nice little unnecessary boost to help feed the Bayern fans' circle jerk and exaggerate how much they were slighted and feel offended forever. Rather than Hollywood FC, their nickname should be Entitlement FC. It's a crime to not want to play for that club.
Man prem Fans and pundits are literally acting like Kane would be commiting a war crime if he left spurs for the Bundesliga but Bayern fans are wrong in feeling betrayed by player that had the ultimate support fair ebough
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