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It’s a lesson people forget every single tournament… “oh this team has played shit so they’re gonna get battered in the knockouts” and then the knockouts come around and most every game is a close defensive affair because that’s how knockout games always are
That being said, we're most probably going to be battered.
We didn't play defensively. We played offensively and failed to score.
Against better teams, our shaky defense will crumble, I fear.
Our style is normally to rely on outscoring the opponent, but our offensive players seem to fail to work together.
If you want we can have Doku for one half of the game and Dembélé the other.
Lukaku gets VARd, so does Mbappe and we all go home after to forget the entire thing ever happened.
Yeah. So I always enjoyed the likes of NL and Belgium play fearless flowing football but gotta admit.. Since the world cup, they've been pretty boring. Today's game was terrible...
Who is that looking back at the end of the video making sure the cameraman isn’t close but still doing a “go away” gesture even though the cameraman is 15+ feet away at that point. A little unnecesary
As far as I can make out, it's something like "don't listen to them \[the boos\], it's okay. We can win the fucking next game."
Fair enough if it pans out and they beat France, I guess, they'll have done the tournament a favour.
Sounded like it, I'm guessing it's probably easier as a lingua franca since there'll be French and Dutch speaking (among others) players in that team and a lot of the Belgium squad play/played in England.
It was one of the decisions Roberto Martinez made as previous squads were very factional between the French speakers and Flemish speakers. So he made the decision that English would be the default within Belgian squads
I don't think that was really the problem, it's more that only half of Flemings speak French well according to polls and less than that in Wallonia, whereas half these guys play in the Premier League so most of them probably speak English better than the "other" official languages in Belgium.
Christ I've had to watch your shite for 90 mins, you should thankful a camera wants to show more. Do it in the dressing room or put up with the camera.
Yeah but it’s still France pretty sure everyone would love to avoid them until later, form matters on the day and if France shows up, Belgium is cooked
Yeah scolding Mr. Cameraman is stupid. Once you’re on the pitch anything goes. Camera showed an injured Thiago Silva watching from the stands the entire disaster against Germany in the 2014 World Cup. Sorry but I will die on this hill, football is not about results or statistics; it’s entertainment for the fans first and foremost - majority of whom, will be watching at home. It’s not a Top Secret military meeting ffs. Cameraman is just trying to do his job.
It's not even the cameraman's fault. The director is usually the one that tells them where to go or how to position the camera. It's not like he's some nosy fan trying to join the huddle. He's just doing his job.
According to some article, the Belgian players speak English internally in order to avoid favouritism towards either dutch or french. This seems to confirm that.
They should just adopt English as official tbh. They're doing everything to avoid using Flemish or french... At their FA headquarters everything is English even the museum all quotes are in English everything signs , communication even their fa logo moto is all English lmao
They basically applied the Singapore model to managing the delicate relationships between the Flemish and Wallonian players. I don't think Tedesco speaks French or Dutch, either.
The fans weren't having it. They were being boo'd and whistled after the game, so De Bruyne decided they weren't gonna greet the fans, which led to even more whistling
I generally don't like it when fans boo their team, but at the same time people traveled to Germany for what ultimately was a very weak display. Still, personally I never boo the team I'm rooting for.
From what I understand it was less about Belgium not being good, but more about how obviously they played for the draw. Being far up the opponents half and passing back to the GK. Completely lifeless performance.
I seriously doubt that. Stuttgart is like a 5 to 6 hour drive away from the bigger Belgian cities. So that would mean they'd be driving for 10-12 hours in one day if they are going there and back again. Plane isn't much faster due to boarding and the location of airports.
Most likely people are renting something in Germany and staying for more than one game.
Exactly, If you want your little gee up "team bonding" speech private after your 0-0 draw with Ukraine to just about secure 2nd in the weakest group in the competition..............., take it to the dressing room.
Most of these speeches are just for show to the fans. who are calling for your head.... "oh look at us, we are so pumped up and in unified bond"
Could do the speech in the dressing room but gotta put on a show on the field and then act disgusted with the camera man who is just doing his job?
Weird
I think its more just frustration boiling over and having to do it right there and then. Have experienced similar stuff in my football matches a ton of times as well. The camera isn't to blame for trying to catch some drama, but don't be surprised if the Belgians aren't going to respond nicely to it lol.
This has City and Pep all over it. Multiple times when they dropped points over the years they lash out at the camera operator just doing their job while they’re still out on the pitch.
Why would you get upset at lack of privacy when your in the middle of 1000 cameras and 60,000 people. Guy is just doing his job and he wasn’t even getting that close or in the way of anyone.
Hate, hate, hate this. Cameraman is just doing his job; leave him alone. Don't [shoo](https://new.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/11appc5/djed_spence_ushers_the_cameraman_away_after_stade/) him, and don't [touch](https://new.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/11m5c3x/bellingham_shoving_cucurella_and_cameraman_post/) his [equipment](https://new.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1ata2v1/haaland_pushing_the_camera_away/) .
I’d be super cool with post-game yellows for dickish behavior like this. Tell the center ref to leave and the VAR just tallies it up. Be an asshole after the game and get a yellow to your accumulation.
I have second hand embarrassment for them after that performance, third hand embarrassment for the guy who gave KDB the man of the match and 4th hand embarrassment for the cameraman who was shooed away by a guy doing a team talk on the park to try and look like a leader.
De dappersten der Galliërs, yeah right. I’d rather see 11 Bart Goors & Timmy Simons who give their all. Everyone (except casteels) take your nice little vacation to Dubai, buy your ugly as Balenciaga t shirts and fuck the hell off!
If you want your little gee up "team bonding" speech private after your 0-0 draw with Ukraine to just about secure 2nd in the weakest group in the competition..............., take it to the dressing room.
Most of these speeches are just for show to the fans..... "oh look at us, we are so pumped up and in unified bond"
Oh fuck off, you played like cowards and the coach managed the game like a corward. Zero intention to play for the win, and thinking that "qualification" in this group is good enough.
I hope they get knocked out by France, so this embarresment of a tournament comes to an end for us. All the remaining players of our "Golden Generation" can fuck off, Tedesco can fuck off and we should give the young players a shot. I'd rather go out in the group stage with players who want to play for the national team, instead of playing with certain divas who think they're too good for it and think we should be worshipping them because they play at a high club level.
And De Bruyne can fuck off to Saudi Arabia, I hope you get a permanent sunburn, you ginger twat.
We don't deserve to play further than the group stage, we should get knocked out, but PLEASE not by france. We can win against france, who are playing like shit aswell and then we should go home
Some chants are in Dutch, some in French and some in English. For the country name specifically, we usually shout Belgium, Come on Belgium or something along those lines (in English thus). Don't know why anybody would shout Vlaanderen, that wouldn't make any sense.
It was sad to watch them passing it behind & defending their 0-0 while the underdogs Ukraine were giving it their all to win. They better step up their game & hopefully bench Lukaku vs France. The French hvnt been that good either to be fair but I don't see Belgium troubling them.
PS: Why wud a team that has players like De Bruyne, Tielemans, Carrasco, De Ketelaere & Trossard give the No.10 to Lukaku ?
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That's the birth of a gif right there.
It felt like they were lookin right at me through the phone.
I often get that reaction in the sauna, peeking through the bushes
https://imgur.com/a/IomQ147
Please let this go viral
Tedesco will be really embarrassed when he realizes that his team was on camera during the whole game.
an absolute shitshow, what an embarrassing performance
And we have France next , we are so fuckin cooked.
France has been pretty bad, every game is different and everything is possible in tournaments like these
A lesson we should learn from France themselves. Feels like nobody remembers how shit they were in the group stage in 2018.
It’s a lesson people forget every single tournament… “oh this team has played shit so they’re gonna get battered in the knockouts” and then the knockouts come around and most every game is a close defensive affair because that’s how knockout games always are
That being said, we're most probably going to be battered. We didn't play defensively. We played offensively and failed to score. Against better teams, our shaky defense will crumble, I fear. Our style is normally to rely on outscoring the opponent, but our offensive players seem to fail to work together.
France have demonstrated in the past that they will happily play at exactly the level they need to progress and not one inch higher.
France tend to be big game day players...looks like an interesting match up... Now Belgium have to play against the Phantom of the Opera!
France hasn’t scored a goal from open play yet.
mon ami, we are fricking bad as well
Sacre le friggin' bleu!
There's not much to worry about if France keeps playing the same honestly.
Let’s just go to pen shootouts immediately.
Still holding hope that they surprise everyone and the game is great , I can't watch Dembele dribbling around on the wing for 90 minutes.
If you want we can have Doku for one half of the game and Dembélé the other. Lukaku gets VARd, so does Mbappe and we all go home after to forget the entire thing ever happened.
France and Belgium they are the same. pam meme.
If Georgia could beat Portugal, you can beat France.
its international football, anyone can win. only team thats looked like a team is Spain
I’ll trade you fandoms 🏴 🐈 🐱 🐈⬛
At this point I believe Luxemburg to be the best playing team in the Benelux
2 teams I love to watch play are Belgium and England They never disappoint me Sense the tone!
Could you BE any more sarcastic?
Yeah, maybe a good idea to go to the locker room if you want to have a private team speech lol
“This is a private moment in a massive stadium full of fans. Let us have our privacy”
cameraman prob was a german police officer
Yeah. So I always enjoyed the likes of NL and Belgium play fearless flowing football but gotta admit.. Since the world cup, they've been pretty boring. Today's game was terrible...
No way. I didn’t see any of his team doing shit at all.
The way they all look at the camera in unisin at the end lol
Basically the disgusted frat girl meme but irl
cameraman came in with his stained bodypillow
Perfect for a "Who invited you?" caption at the end
This clip has an extremely high meme potential lol
Invest now
📈
Has to become a meme
https://imgur.com/7vnhwvH
You Anda-LOSE!
Mangala with the stank face
Oh my 😂
https://imgur.com/h9Bl4Yv.jpg
POV: You just called Belgian beer shit
You said the French invented fried potatoes.
You brought over a plate of fries with ketchup, and refuse them mayo.
Even as a Dutch man, you’ve crossed the line. You don’t say those things about Belgian beer, not even as a joke.
Love this hahaha!
The look of disgust on Tieleman's face.
In fairness he kinda always looks like that
Reminds me of the office when they watch the trailer of their documentary and they all realise they had been filmed without their knowledge.
Who is that looking back at the end of the video making sure the cameraman isn’t close but still doing a “go away” gesture even though the cameraman is 15+ feet away at that point. A little unnecesary
Matz Sels
He wanted the final say in the matter
damn bro, you got the whole squad laughing
I need this to become a meme
#**!**
Like filming a bunch of trustworthy gentlemen in an Italian cafe
Tedesco be [like](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yALoRFbCHzU)
Whats he saying? "Listen! Win the fucking next game. " ?
As far as I can make out, it's something like "don't listen to them \[the boos\], it's okay. We can win the fucking next game." Fair enough if it pans out and they beat France, I guess, they'll have done the tournament a favour.
"We don't let this slip".
Was he speaking English?
Sounded like it, I'm guessing it's probably easier as a lingua franca since there'll be French and Dutch speaking (among others) players in that team and a lot of the Belgium squad play/played in England.
It was one of the decisions Roberto Martinez made as previous squads were very factional between the French speakers and Flemish speakers. So he made the decision that English would be the default within Belgian squads
true, Belgium is just very divided in general. People from the flanders don't really like the Walloons.
I don't think that was really the problem, it's more that only half of Flemings speak French well according to polls and less than that in Wallonia, whereas half these guys play in the Premier League so most of them probably speak English better than the "other" official languages in Belgium.
I recall they’ve been English-first since Martinez at least.
I'm hearing: "Hey don't fucking listen...don't listen, it's okay. We can win the fucking next game! It's fine, it's fine."
by lip reading: ”Damn it guys, the coach is right. If we want to win, it’s on us!”
SHUTDAFUKUP
If we can keep it in the corner for the next 90 minutes we're in with a chance!
Believe it or not, but Belgium is now banned from the next Eurovision Song contest in Switzerland.
Christ I've had to watch your shite for 90 mins, you should thankful a camera wants to show more. Do it in the dressing room or put up with the camera.
Showed more passion shooing the cameraman than in the full game. Now enjoy France lol
People acting as if France has shown any more will or had better execution during groups. Both have been underwhelming
Yeah but it’s still France pretty sure everyone would love to avoid them until later, form matters on the day and if France shows up, Belgium is cooked
Yeah scolding Mr. Cameraman is stupid. Once you’re on the pitch anything goes. Camera showed an injured Thiago Silva watching from the stands the entire disaster against Germany in the 2014 World Cup. Sorry but I will die on this hill, football is not about results or statistics; it’s entertainment for the fans first and foremost - majority of whom, will be watching at home. It’s not a Top Secret military meeting ffs. Cameraman is just trying to do his job.
It's not even the cameraman's fault. The director is usually the one that tells them where to go or how to position the camera. It's not like he's some nosy fan trying to join the huddle. He's just doing his job.
You think the camera man is embarrassed or something? He probably thought it was funny like most normal people
Wait is he speaking English to his teammates?
I read that Belgian players do this to avoid anyone getting left out.
makes sense. Way to derail a team to start with a discussion on which language they should speak
According to some article, the Belgian players speak English internally in order to avoid favouritism towards either dutch or french. This seems to confirm that.
Depends. If it's a group of all native french speakers they'll speak french and vice versa. It's only if there's a mix.
Is everyone on the team fluent in French and Flemish?
Some are, like Tielemans. Most are only fluent in one of the two. Some are fluent in nothing like Carrasco.
How is carrasco getting coached then or is that the point?
Pictographs
Green bills ;)
Crayons mostly
why can't carrasco speak french or flemish? Did he grow up outside of belgium?
I'm joking. He actually speaks both. He just comes across as illiterate sometimes
Lol I just heard him speak on tv and paid attention, I’m not sure if he’s actually a Flemish speaker or a French one? It sounded so weird.
He's fluent in both and probably in Spanish too (his mom and Atletico).
So he can *speak*, he just can't read.
Lol
Most are fluent in both actually. With dutch taking the upperhand.
>and Flemish? *Dutch
All the flemish are fluent in both.
They should just adopt English as official tbh. They're doing everything to avoid using Flemish or french... At their FA headquarters everything is English even the museum all quotes are in English everything signs , communication even their fa logo moto is all English lmao
In Flanders it's all *"de Rode Duivels"*.
Guess everyone doesn’t speak French or Dutch
Most united nation.
with the right wing coming up we won’t be a nation for too long thanks to those xenophobic dickheads
Surprised how the right wing haven’t said anything about this Belgium team lol
Cmon mate, they're clearly part of "de goeie"
Fuck em, we will never let them win
it's probably more that one half won't let the other choose
Quite common in Belgium. When I worked in Brussels, as soon as there was a non-Dutch speaking person we switched to English among each other
They basically applied the Singapore model to managing the delicate relationships between the Flemish and Wallonian players. I don't think Tedesco speaks French or Dutch, either.
If you want privacy so take this talk in the locker room
They want to show the fans they are getting pumped up for the knockouts.
The fans weren't having it. They were being boo'd and whistled after the game, so De Bruyne decided they weren't gonna greet the fans, which led to even more whistling
I generally don't like it when fans boo their team, but at the same time people traveled to Germany for what ultimately was a very weak display. Still, personally I never boo the team I'm rooting for.
From what I understand it was less about Belgium not being good, but more about how obviously they played for the draw. Being far up the opponents half and passing back to the GK. Completely lifeless performance.
Okay but Germany is litterally next door. Most of them are probably even sleeping in their own homes tonight
I seriously doubt that. Stuttgart is like a 5 to 6 hour drive away from the bigger Belgian cities. So that would mean they'd be driving for 10-12 hours in one day if they are going there and back again. Plane isn't much faster due to boarding and the location of airports. Most likely people are renting something in Germany and staying for more than one game.
they won't even survive in knockouts.
They play France the way there playing it’s ending 0-0
Belgium [1] - 0 France Openda 113' incoming
Ruled off for offside + handball
Best I can do is a three minute VAR check that clearly shows the foul, but the goal is still given.
Exactly, If you want your little gee up "team bonding" speech private after your 0-0 draw with Ukraine to just about secure 2nd in the weakest group in the competition..............., take it to the dressing room. Most of these speeches are just for show to the fans. who are calling for your head.... "oh look at us, we are so pumped up and in unified bond"
I see, but they don’t want us to have a listen. This is what is wrong with this world. We all want to send the perfect image.
"Let me speak real quick, playing football in Saudi Arabia isn't so bad..."
out jerked the r/soccercirlejerk with that
If they dont want to be filmed then have your little talk somewhere else
Pep guardiola type beat
Yep, this has happened multiple times with Pep and City. Happens quite often when they drop points.
Could do the speech in the dressing room but gotta put on a show on the field and then act disgusted with the camera man who is just doing his job? Weird
I think its more just frustration boiling over and having to do it right there and then. Have experienced similar stuff in my football matches a ton of times as well. The camera isn't to blame for trying to catch some drama, but don't be surprised if the Belgians aren't going to respond nicely to it lol.
It’s not that deep man.
Tell that to the Belgians
This has City and Pep all over it. Multiple times when they dropped points over the years they lash out at the camera operator just doing their job while they’re still out on the pitch.
Nothing a rich person who fucked up likes doing more than kicking out at a working person to reaffirm their ego
Imagine if after they shooed the cameraman away you see the sky cam moving down
LET ME TALK!
KdB loudly said let me speak and they just listened.
they finally let him speak
Why would you get upset at lack of privacy when your in the middle of 1000 cameras and 60,000 people. Guy is just doing his job and he wasn’t even getting that close or in the way of anyone.
I don't know that anyone was so upset but it's also within their rights to ask him to go away during an emotional moment for the team.
They are getting paid millions to play and be emotional in front of cameras and a stadium crowd. That's the whole point of professional football.
They don't get paid for the national team, it's a matter of honor
Nah I'm on the camera mans side here, They're in the public eye and he's there to do a job. Talk in the changing rooms if it's that emotional.
Millionaires who do their job poorly angry at average wage worker trying to do their job well.
If only they had half that heart to actually play football maybe we could watch a full game without falling asleep.
These kits are legendary.
People who are doing their job always get the shit. Ted can go fuck himself.
Kdb so far had a great tournament, still cant believe how tf they only scored 2 goals all games 💀
Why'd they kill the moment just because of the cam?
Because Tedesco had nothing to say. Easy way out.
Next tournament they'll have drones recording these moments you just know it.
When you can Bobby Martinez, surely the next guy will be better. Right guys? Right?!?!
Hate, hate, hate this. Cameraman is just doing his job; leave him alone. Don't [shoo](https://new.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/11appc5/djed_spence_ushers_the_cameraman_away_after_stade/) him, and don't [touch](https://new.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/11m5c3x/bellingham_shoving_cucurella_and_cameraman_post/) his [equipment](https://new.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1ata2v1/haaland_pushing_the_camera_away/) .
I’d be super cool with post-game yellows for dickish behavior like this. Tell the center ref to leave and the VAR just tallies it up. Be an asshole after the game and get a yellow to your accumulation.
Please touch my equipment instead.
The way Belgium always manages to choose completely unprepared coaches is fascinating to me.
Maybe go to the locker room if you don't want the caneramen to film?
I have second hand embarrassment for them after that performance, third hand embarrassment for the guy who gave KDB the man of the match and 4th hand embarrassment for the cameraman who was shooed away by a guy doing a team talk on the park to try and look like a leader.
I doubt they were talking about their strategy against France so it‘s ridiculous that you want privacy in front of everyone
"It's simple, we kill the turtle man"
lol
They finally let him talk
KDB is carying this team
De dappersten der Galliërs, yeah right. I’d rather see 11 Bart Goors & Timmy Simons who give their all. Everyone (except casteels) take your nice little vacation to Dubai, buy your ugly as Balenciaga t shirts and fuck the hell off!
To be fair, I don't think you can say that KdB lacks dedication or effort when it comes to the national team.
“Honey, wake up… a new meme template just dropped!”
Just got to try as the cameraman there. But get down the tunnel
i mean the camera man acted like he was a teammate lol. way too close
They got bigger things to worry about then a damn camera
A very unlikeable team, I hope they get knocked out soon.
Not Belgian or a Belgium NT fan but saying is a very unlikeable team is too much man
If you want your little gee up "team bonding" speech private after your 0-0 draw with Ukraine to just about secure 2nd in the weakest group in the competition..............., take it to the dressing room. Most of these speeches are just for show to the fans..... "oh look at us, we are so pumped up and in unified bond"
Oh fuck off, you played like cowards and the coach managed the game like a corward. Zero intention to play for the win, and thinking that "qualification" in this group is good enough. I hope they get knocked out by France, so this embarresment of a tournament comes to an end for us. All the remaining players of our "Golden Generation" can fuck off, Tedesco can fuck off and we should give the young players a shot. I'd rather go out in the group stage with players who want to play for the national team, instead of playing with certain divas who think they're too good for it and think we should be worshipping them because they play at a high club level. And De Bruyne can fuck off to Saudi Arabia, I hope you get a permanent sunburn, you ginger twat.
We don't deserve to play further than the group stage, we should get knocked out, but PLEASE not by france. We can win against france, who are playing like shit aswell and then we should go home
They let Kevin talk once & stopped the cameraman to film, are we not supposed to watch him talk???
**Tintin addresses ten of his most devoted cosplayers**
Tedesco sucks
The cameraman wants to capture every moment.
My love of things Belgian ends at ale and chocolate.
Blasphemy. Should be ashamed of yourself. Vertoghen, Toby, Chadli, Dembele.
You don't waffle
Do they speak French, Dutch or English? It's crazy that they're all Belgian but might not even have a common tongue...
Well the way Belgium has different areas speaking different languages it kinda makes sense
Same for the Swiss.
what about Malaysia
Follow-up: do supporters in the stadium shout België, la Belgique, Belgium, or Vlaanderen (?!?) ? I asked an actual Belgian today and he didn't know.
Some chants are in Dutch, some in French and some in English. For the country name specifically, we usually shout Belgium, Come on Belgium or something along those lines (in English thus). Don't know why anybody would shout Vlaanderen, that wouldn't make any sense.
De Tesco quality manager.
Silly bastard. There is a private changing room for that bullshit.
The most effort any of them put in tbf
It was sad to watch them passing it behind & defending their 0-0 while the underdogs Ukraine were giving it their all to win. They better step up their game & hopefully bench Lukaku vs France. The French hvnt been that good either to be fair but I don't see Belgium troubling them. PS: Why wud a team that has players like De Bruyne, Tielemans, Carrasco, De Ketelaere & Trossard give the No.10 to Lukaku ?
Maybe Belgium really is just less than the sum of its parts. They’ve been showing us for years now